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« Reply #1150 on: June 05, 2012, 05:03:09 pm »
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No air crash in Alaska, 1972
39. 1977-1984: Frank Church (D-ID)/ Thomas Hale Boggs Sr. (D-LA), defeating Gerald Ford/Bob Dole (1976) and Bob Dole/ Otis R. Bowen (1980). President died of cancer in 1984
40. 1984-1985: Thomas Hale Boggs Sr. (D-LA)/ Mike Mansfield (D-MT)
41. 1985-1993: Howard Baker (R-TN)/ Pete DuPont (R-DE), defeating Jerry Brown/ Lloyd Bentsen (1984) and Lloyd Bentsen/ Michael Dukakis (1988)
42. 1993-2001: Joe Biden (D-DE)/ Ray Mabus (D-MS), defeating Pete DuPont/ Carroll Campbell (1992) and Elizabeth Dole/ Jack Kemp (1996)
43. 2001-2009: G. Scott Romney (R-MI)/ Rick Santorum (R-PA), defeating Nick Begich/ Tommy Boggs (2000) and Ray Mabus/ Howard Dean (2004)
44. 2009-now: Barack Obama (D-IL)/ Kathleen Sebelius (D-KS), defeating Rick Santorum/ Jeb Bush (2008)
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« Reply #1151 on: June 05, 2012, 07:15:53 pm »
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My fantasy world, 1960 present.
1960-1965: Richard Nixon
1965-1973: Barry Goldwater
1973-1977: Richard Nixon
1977-1985: Ronald Reagan
1985-1993: Barry Goldwater Jr.
1993-2001: Ron Paul
2001-2009: Pat Buchanan

2009-2013: Chuck Baldwin
2013-2021: Gary Johnson
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« Reply #1152 on: June 07, 2012, 07:32:44 pm »
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My fantasy world, 1960 present.
1960-1965: Richard Nixon
1965-1973: Barry Goldwater
1973-1977: Richard Nixon
1977-1985: Ronald Reagan
1985-1993: Barry Goldwater Jr.
1993-2001: Ron Paul
2001-2009: Pat Buchanan

2009-2013: Chuck Baldwin
2013-2021: Gary Johnson

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« Reply #1153 on: June 12, 2012, 09:55:18 pm »
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Presidents of the United States


16 - Abraham Lincoln of Illinois - March 4, 1861 - March 4, 1869
17 - Andrew Johnson of Illinois - March 4, 1869 - March 4, 1873
18 - Ulysses S. Grant of Ohio - March 4, 1873 - March 4, 1885
19 - Samuel J. Tilden of New York - March 4, 1885 - March 4, 1889
20 - John Sherman - March 4, 1889 - October 22, 1900
21 - Chauncey M. Depew of New York - October 22, 1900 - March 4, 1897

22 - Horace Boies of Iowa - March 4, 1897 - March 4, 1905
23 - Morgan Buckeley of Connecticut - March 4, 1905 - March 4, 1909
24. James Budd of California - March 4, 1909 - January 20, 1921
25. William H. Taft of Ohio - January 20, 1921 - July 4, 1926          
26. John Calvin Coolidge of Massachusetts July 4, 1926 - January 20, 1929
27. Jon W. Davis of West Virginia - January 20, 1929 - January 20, 1933
28. Robert Moses of New York - January 20, 1933 - January 20, 1937
29. Herbert Clark Hoover of Iowa - January 20, 1937 - January 20, 1941
30. Jon W. Davis of West Virginia - January 20, 1941 - March 24, 1955
31. Coke R. Stevenson of Texas - March 24, 1955 - January 20, 1965
32. George McGovern of South Dakota - January 20, 1965 - August 8, 1968
33. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts - August 8, 1968 - January 20, 1976
34. Barry M. Goldwater of Arizona - January 20, 1976 - March 2, 1977
35. Harold Huges of Iowa - March 2, 1977 - October 18, 1977[color]
36. Spiro Agnew of Maryland - October 18, 1977 - December 31, 1978
37. Alan Cranston of California - December 31, 1978 - January 20, 1981
38. John B. Anderson of Illinois - January 20, 1981 - January 20, 1989
39. Jerry Brown of California - January 20, 1989 - January 20, 1993
40. Colin Powell of New York - January 20, 1993 - January 20, 2001
41. Albert Gore of Tennessee - January 20, 2001 - January 20, 2009
42. Alex Sink - January 20, 2009 - January 20, 2013
43. Barack H. Obama - January 20, 2013 - Present


Vice Presidents of the United States


15 - Hannibal Hamlin of Maine - March 4, 1861 - March 4, 1865
16 - Andrew Johnson of Illinois - March 4, 1865 - March 4, 1869
17 - Horatio Seymour of New York - March 4, 1869 - March 4, 1873
18 - Henry Wilson of Massachusetts - March 4, 1873 - November 22, 1875
Vacant - November 22, 1873 - March 4,  1877
19 - Hamilton Fish of New York - March 4, 1877 - March 4, 1885
20 - Joseph E. McDonald of Indiana - March 4, 1885 - March 4, 1889
21 - Chauncey M. Depew of New York - March 4, 1889 - October 22, 1900
Vacant - October 22, 1900 - March 4, 1893
22 - Frederick William Vanderbilt - March 4, 1893 - March 4, 1897
23 - Arthur Pue of Maryland - March 4, 1897 - March 4, 1905
24 - James A. Walker of Virginia - March 4, 1905 - March 4, 1909
color=red]25. Thomas Woodrow Wilson of New Jersey - March 4, 1909 - March 4, 1913

26. Champ Clark of Missouri - March 4, 1913 - March 4, 1917
27. James M. Cox of Ohio - March 4, 1917 - January 20, 1921
28. Calvin Coolidge of Massachusetts - January 20, 1921 - July 4, 1926
Vacant - July 4, 1926 - January 20, 1929
29. Robert M. LaFollette of Wisconsin - January 20, 1929 - January 20, 1933
30. Herbert Clark Hoover of Iowa - January 20, 1933 - January 20, 1937
31. William Edgar Borah of Idaho - January 20, 1937 - January 20, 1941
32. Homer S. Cummings of Chicago - January 20, 1941 - January 20, 1945
33. Coke R. Stevenson - January 20, 1945 - March 24, 1955
Vacant - March 24, 1955 - January 20, 1957
34.  Francis Biddie - January 20, 1957 - January 20, 1965
35. Edward M. Kennedy - January 20, 1965 - August 8, 1968
Vacant - August 8, 1968 - September 13, 1968
36. Birch Bayh of Indiana - September 13, 1968 - January 20, 1976
37. Harold Hughes of Iowa - January 20, 1976 - Marc 2, 1977[color]
Vacant - March 2, 1977 - March 23, 1977[color]
38. Spiro T. Agnew - March 23, 1977 - October 18, 1977
Vacant - October 18, 1977 - December 3, 1977
39. Alan Cranston of California - December 3, 1977 - December 31, 1978
Vacant - December 31, 1978 - June 18, 1979

40. Robert Strange McNamara - June 18, 1979 - January 20, 1981
41. Jerry Brown of California - January 20, 1981 - January 20, 1989
42. Ross Perot of Texas - January 20, 1989 - January 20, 1993
43. Douglas Wilder of Virginia - January 20, 1993 - January 20, 1997
44. Elizabeth Dole of North Carolina - January 20, 1997 - January 20, 2001
45. Alex Sink of Florida - January 20, 2001 - January 20, 2009
46. Ron Wyden of Oregon - January 20, 2009 - January 20, 2013
47. George W. Bush - January 20, 2013 - Present [/b]


Losing Tickets
*Bold = incumbent President loses

1868 - Hannibal Hamlin/John Fremont
1872 - Andrew Johnson/Horatio Seymour
1876 - Benjamin Wade/Reuben Fenton
1880 - Benjamin Gatz Brown/John W Stevenson

1884 - Benjamin Helm Bristow/Zachariah Chandler
1888 - Samuel Tilden/Joseph McDonald
1892 - Issac Gray/Allen Thurman
1896 - Stephen Elkins/Benjamin Harrison
1900 - Thomas Brackett Reed/William McKinley
1904 - George Dewey/Francis Cockrell
1908 - Theodore Roosevelt/Charles W. Fairbanks
1912 - Robert Bacon/Charles J. Bonaparte
1916 - James Wilson/Paul Morton
1920 - Thomas Woodrow Wilson/William Allan Oldfield
1924 - Finis Garret/Charles Bryan
1928 - George W. Norris/Hanford MacNider
1932 - Jon W. Davis/Robert M. LaFollette
1936 - Robert M. La Follette/Franklin D. Roosevelt
1940 - Robert Moses/Bertrand Snell
1944 - Robert Moses/Robert Taft
1948 - Robert Taft/Arthur Vandenberg
1952 - Douglas McKay/Dwight Eisenhower
1956 - Thomas Dewey/George Smathers
1960 - Adlai Stevenson/Wayne Morse[/color=blue]Henry Cabot Lodge/Nelson Rockefellar

1964 - Francis Biddie/Allan Shivers
1968 - Lyndon B. Johnson/Edmund Muskie
1972 - Bob Packwood/Ernest Hollings
1976 - Birch Bayh/Lloyd Bentsten
1980 - William Milliken/Phil Crane
1984 - Henry Jackson/Reubin AskewHoward Baker/George H.W Bush
1988 - Spiro Agnew/Ronald Reagan Michael S. Dukakis/Tommy Thompson
1992 - Jerry Brown/Mo Udall Tom Foley/William J. Clinton
1996 - Daniel Patrick Moynihan/Gerald Ford
2000 - Elizabeth Dole/Rodney Slater
2004 - Douglas Wilder/Mitt Romney
2008 - Jennifer Granholm/Mike Huckabee
2012 - Alex Sink/Ron Wyden



Democratic Party
Republican Party[color]
Frontier Party
Progressive Party


*The six terms of Jon W. Davis would be the longest Presidency in history. One term was not consecutive, with two Republican terms in the middle. Davis would be known for some great things including being the bane of both his own party and the opposition party. Davis would crush the Republican opposition in his consecutive reelections to the point where the Frontier Party would emerge as a new challenger on the left as Davis moved the Democratic Party Right. After Davis' death in office, Congress would pass an amendment giving the Presidency term limits, however; this alone would not be enough to prevent the Frontier Party from framing the Democratic Party as tyrannical and anti-Democratic while warning people that a Democratic victory would mean 24 years of Democrats.

The Frontier Party would be successful in this manner, and eventually the Democratic Party fell and the Progressive Party emerged to the left of the Frontier Party. Many former conservative and moderate Democrats would run to the Frontier Party, or leave politics altogether --as these two new parties battle it out.
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« Reply #1154 on: June 14, 2012, 08:48:45 pm »
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Not completely an alternate history but some key changes.....

32.  1933-1945   Franklin D Roosevelt- (John Garner, Henry Wallace) (D)
33.  1945-1953   Henry Wallace- Harry Truman (D) 

(In 1950 Helen Gahagan Douglas narrowly beats Richard Nixon for the California senate)

34.  1953-1961   Dwight Eisenhower- Henry Cabot Lodge (R)
35.  1961-1969   John Kennedy- Hubert Humphrey (D)
36.  1969-1973   Robert Kennedy- Eugene McCarthy (D) no second term due to sex scandal
37.  1973-1981  Gerald Ford- Richard Schweiker (R)
38.  1981-1989  George McGovern -Geraldine Ferraro (D)
39.  1989-1993   Alan Simpson -Mark Hatfield (R)---defeated due to the recession of 1992
40.   1993-2001  Bill Clinton- Ann Richards (D)
41.   2001-2005  Ann Richards- Richard Gephardt (D)---steps down due to poor heath.
42.   2005-2009  Rudy Giuiliani -Olympia Snowe (R)---defeated poor economy.
43.   2009-2017  Hillary Clinton--Barack Obama (D)


Background (please pardon any typos, etc.) :
32 FDR keeps Wallace on 1944 ticket despite party opposition.

33.  Wallace assumed the presidency during WWII. Wallace refused to use Nuclear bombs and the US invaded Japan in 1945 to success. The job market was relatively strong under Wallace and thus he was narrowly nominated in 1948 and defeated Thomas Dewey in the closest election in history after 3 statewide recounts. (Dewey won the popular vote 51 to 49%.) Wallace pursued civil rights support came under stiff opposition from southern democrats and lost renomination in 1952 to Adlai Stevenson.

34. Eisenhower was elected to two terms along with moderate running mate Henry Cabot Lodge. In 1952 he faced Adlai Stevenson defeating him in a landslide. In 1956 Estes Kefauver. The 1956 race was much closer due to Eisenhower's health being an issue. Senator Kefauver hammered at this issue and raised doubts, but it was not enough to tip the election his way. 

35. In 1960 John Kennedy and running mate Hubert Humphrey defeated Vice President Henry Cabot Lodge in a landslide carrying 350 to 188 electoral votes 55 to 45%.Lodge ran a lackluster campaign without any focus. In 1964 they defeated Nelson Rockefeller in a close race 50 to 49% 300-238 EV. Kennedy pursued a "Strong Society" program, and passed landmark civil rights legislation in addition to packing the supreme court. Kennedy opted against full scale involvement in Vietnam. Kennedy continued much of the New Deal and left office with sky high approval ratings.

36. The public's love affair with the Kennedy dynasty continued in 1968. Robert Kennedy the presidents brother decided to pursue the presidency. In a very tough and bitter primary he narrowly defeated Vice President Humphrey. In the general election he defeated Arizona senator Barry Goldwater 53% to 47% with Goldwater carried every southern state and a few in the west. During his only term he continued his brothers domestic and civil rights policies to much success. His approval ratings were high until a sex scandal in 1971 involving call girls at the white house. The presidents numbers plummeted and the party asked for his withdrawal from reelection. Vice President McCarthy sought and won the nomination but was narrowly defeated by House Minority Leader Gerald Ford 50% to 49% (276-262). Former President Kennedy's image improved after leaving office hailed as a international humanitarian.

37 Gerald Ford began his presidency in the wake of the Kennedy sex scandals. He was narrowly elected on a promise of renewal. He sought to get the publics mind off of those sensitive issues. He was perceived as a social moderate, fiscal conservative and while not always a sharp public speaker people generally liked him even in the beggining. Ford pursued policies of detente with the soviet union and sought to improve relations between the nations and avert a cold war. President Fords middle east peace talks in 1975 were hailed as a break through. Ford was reelected in a landslide in 1976 based on a improving economy and peace abroad. Ford carried a whopping 44 states and 56% of the popular vote against Georgia Governor Jimmy Carter and running mate Ted Kennedy. He left office with a 70% approval rating after successfully negotiating the Iran hostage crisis.

38. Vice President Schweiker was very popular and the press was stunned when he opted out of running to succeed President Ford. Kansas senator Bob Dole won the republican nomination in 1980 and with President's Ford approval ratings high it was Dole's race to lose. That he did, his defeat came with a series of high profile gaffe's and one incident falling off of an open truck. Democrats nominated South Dakota Senator George McGovern over Ted Kennedy. McGovern defeated Dole in a major general election upset. The upset carried with him the first female vice president Geraldine Ferraro. This election marked a major gender gap with McGovern carrying women 60%-40% Dole with Men 56-44. President McGovern was famously photoed with an issue of the Chicago tribune which had predicted a Dole victory, in addition to many on air personalites notably Walter Cronkite early in the evening. Not a single pre election poll showed McGovern competitive despite Dole's gaffe problems. The McGovern terms were marked with a strong economy and peace abroad. McGovern pursued peace talks with the Soviet Union and a nuclear freeze. This met with conservative opposition and in 1984 McGovern survived a challenge from Texas Senator George Bush 52 to 47% McGoverns reelection theme was America is blooming again.

39. Vice President Geraldine Ferraro became the first woman to seek a major party nomination in 1988 and won nomination.  Ferraro had issues with her husbands business connections and mild sexism abroad which played as a distractions to her economic and equality based message. Ferraro chose California senator Alan Cranston as her running mate. Moderate republican senator Alan Simpson was nominated by republicans and he chose his colleague Oregon Senator Mark Hatfield. The Simpson- Hatfield Ticket beat Ferraro-Cranston 51% to 48% 298 electoral votes to 240.

40. Despite relative popularity after the successful gulf war and the death of Saddam Hussein President Alan Simpson lost support as the US economy sank into a deep recession. Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton was nominated by the Democrats and he chose popular Texas governor Ann Richards as his running mate. Independent businessman Pat Buchanan ran as a reform candidate and at claims that President Simpson was not socially conservative enough. Bill Clinton won the day with 50% of the popular vote to Simpsons 43% 7% for Buchanan. Clintons victory in the electoral college 338 to 208. Texas helped tip the electoral college in Clintons favor after winning it by less then 1pt. President Clinton presided over the best economy in decades and his approval ratings skyrocketed. His wife Hillary Clinton successfully lead the fight to pass a form of Universal Heathcare. By 1996 Clinton was the most popular president since FDR. He won the 1996 election in the strongest landslide since 1936 carrying 40 states and 59% of the popular vote against North Carolina Senator Jesse Helms. Clinton did have a sex scandal at the end of his term with Former Minnesota Senator Walter Mondale's daughter Eleanor, but republicans were not able to leverage this event to their advantage and Vice President Richards was elected to succeed him.

41. Vice President Ann Richards became the second woman to seek a major parties nomination. Having seen the mistakes and issues with Former Vice President Ferraro's campaign Richards went in with a game plan. The public admired her tough and frank cantor and felt she could be trusted because of it. The public felt she was someone they wanted to have a beer with. The republicans ran Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney as opposition. The contrast between the two was apparent from day one. The Richards campaign dug up Romney's past with Bain capital and the media painted him as out of touch. Vice President Richards one liners during the debates seem to help reinforce the image of Romney being out of touch. Richards defeated Romney 53% to 47% and 368-170 in the electoral college.Richards time in office was a challenge, she presided over the 9-11 attacks and the hunt for Osama Bid Laden. In 2003 The US found Bin Laden hiding in Syria and killed him in a raid. Richards approval was very high following this event. Richards while tough on foreign policy was an advocate at home for those without a voice in poverty, women and the LGBT community.During the end of her only term it was clear to the press and her administration that the presidents health was an issue and she decided not to seek a second term in 2004. President Richards passed away in 2006 two years after ending her successful term.

42. After President Richards decision not to seek a second term Rudy Giuiliani was the odds on favorite to win based on his popularity following the 9-11 attacks and his alliance with President Richards. Democrats nominated Vice President Richard Gephardt and the first African American on a ticket Congressman Harold Ford. They were defeated by Giuliani and his running mate Maine senator Olympia Snowe 52%-47% (279-259 EV) in the election. Guiliani began his term with strong popularity and continued President Richards homeland security policies. However the stock market crashed in 2008 and this lead to his defeat by Former First Lady and  Arkansas Senator Hillary Clinton.

43. Democrats tasted victory in the fall of President Giuliani's numbers in 2008. They saw Former First Lady Hillary Clinton as the strongest candidate to take him down and she was nominated outright after winning the Iowa caucus in a landslide over Illinois Governor Barack Obama. She quickly sought a running mate that would make a statement to add appeal to her ticket and she chose her closest opponent Obama to join her on the ticket. The Clinton Obama ticket stressed an economic message and took it deep into the industrial midwest where they crushed Giuliani in the popular and electoral vote. 379 to 159 54% to 46% respectively. Clinton began her term with legislation aimed at creating jobs and has tailored her message accordingly. Clinton has preferred to steer away from issues that do not pertain to job growth or the economy and her approval rating has remained steady at 47-52%. President Clinton was recently hailed by the LGBT community after a speech on gay rights. In addition to her opposition to recent republican efforts on birth control related legislation against women.
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« Reply #1155 on: June 18, 2012, 08:24:43 am »
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Washington Retires after one term. Results

1. George Washington: Independent: March 4th 1789-March 4th 1793
2. John Adams: Federalist: March 4th 1793-March 4th 1801
3. James Madison: Democratic-Republican: March 4th 1801-March4th 1809
4. Thomas Jefferson: Democratic-Republican: March 4th 1809-March 4th 1813
5. DeWitt Clinton: Federalist: March 4th 1813-March 4th 1821
6. William H. Crawford: Democratic-Republican: March 4th 1821-October 22nd 1823**
7. Albert Gallatin: Democratic-Republican: October 22nd 1823-May 16th 1824**
8. Henry Clay: Democratic Republican: May 16th 1824-March 4th 1833
9. Andrew Jackson: Democratic: March 4th 1833-April 11th 1843**
10. Levi Woodbury: Democratic: April 11th 1843-March 4th 1845
11. Winfield Scott: Whig: March 4th 1845-March 4th 1853
12. James Buchanan: Democratic: March 4th 1853-March 4th 1861
13. Abraham Lincoln: Republican: March 4th 1861-March 18th 1864*
14. William Seward: Republican: March 18th 1864-March 4th 1865
15. George McClellan: Democratic: March 4th 1865-March 4th 1869
16. Ulysses S. Grant (1): Republican: March 4th 1869-March 4th 1873
17. Horatio Seymour: Democratic: March 4th 1873-March 4th 1881
18. Samuel Tilden: Democratic: March 4th 1881-March 4th 1885
19. Ulysses S. Grant (2): Republican: March 4th 1885-August 15th 1886**
20. James G. Blaine: Republican: August 15th 1886-March 4th 1893
21. Grover Cleveland: Democratic: March 4th 1893-October 10th 1895*
22. Isaac P. Gray: Democratic: October 10th 1895-March 4th 1897
23. Benjamin Harrison: Republican: March 4th 1897-March 13th 1901**
24. William McKinley: Republican: March 13th 1901-March 4th 1913
25. Alton B. Parker: Democratic: March 4th 1913-March 4th 1917
26. Theodore Roosevelt: Republican: March 4th 1917-January 6th 1919**
27. Elihu Root: Republican: January 6th 1919-March 4th 1921
28. Leonard Wood: Republican: March 4th 1921-March 4th 1929
29. Frank Orren Lowden: Republican: March 4th 1929-March 4th 1933
30. Al Smith: Democratic: March 4th 1933-March 4th 1937
31. Robert La Follette Jr: Republican: March 4th 1937-March 4th 1945
32. Earl Warren: Republican: March 4th 1945-January 20th 1949
33. Douglas MacArthur: Democratic: Jaunuary 20th 1949-July 2nd 1951***
34. Joseph McCarthy: Democratic: July 2nd 1951-January 20th 1953
35. Stuart Symington: Republican: January 20th 1953-January 20th 1961
36. John F. Kennedy: Republican: January 20th 1961-August 4th 1966**
37. Hubert Humphrey: Republican: August 4th 1966-January 20th 1973
38. Pat Brown: Republican: January 20th 1973-January 20th 1977
39. Howard Baker: Democratic: January 20th 1977-January 20th 1985
40. Jack Kemp: Democratic: January 20th 1985-January 20th 1993
41. Paul Tsongas: Republican: January 20th 1993-January 18th 1997**
42. Bill Bradley: Republican: January 18th 1997-January 20th 2005
43. Steve Forbes: Democratic: January 20th 2005-January 20th 2009
44. Hillary Clinton: Republican: January 20th 2009-January 20th 2013
45. Mike Huckabee: Democratic: January 20th 2013-January 20th 2021
46. Jon Huntsman: Democratic: January 20th 2021-January 20th 2029


*Assassinated.
**Died in office of natural causes.
***Impeached

If anyone wants to see, I may do a thread of electoral maps purely for this post.

A spoiler

2008

Clinton/Edwards: Republican: 338: 51.7%
Forbes/Huckabee: Democratic: 200: 46.0%




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« Reply #1156 on: June 18, 2012, 11:14:05 am »
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37. Ronald Reagan (1969-1977)
38. John Lindsey (1977-1981)
39. Edward Kennedy (1981-1983)
40. Lloyd Bentsen (1983-1989)
41. Jack Kemp (1989-1997)
42. Newt Gingrich (1997-2001)
43. Al Gore (2001-2009)
44. Mike Huckabee (2009-)
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Presidents of the United States of America
32. 1933-1945: Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic)
33. 1945-1957: Harry S Truman (Democratic)
34. 1957-1961: Earl Warren (Republican)
35. 1961-1963: Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic)
36. 1963-1969: Hubert H. Humphrey (Democratic)
37. 1969-1977: George W. Romney (Republican)
38. 1977-1983: Ronald Reagan (Democratic)
39. 1983-1989: Daniel Patrick Moynihan (Democratic)
40. 1989-1997: William Cohen (Republican)
41. 1997-2005: Paul Wellstone (Democratic)
42. 2005-2013: Hillary Rodham (Republican)
43. 2013-2021: Jim Webb (Democratic)
44. 2021-2025: Chris Christie (Republican)
45. 2025-2033: Anthony Foxx (Democratic)
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I keep re-working this in my head...

1. John Adams (MA)/John Rutledge (SC), Thomas Jefferson (R-VA) April 30th, 1789-March 4th, 1797
2. Thomas Jefferson (R-VA)/Samuel Adams (R-MA), Aaron Burr (R-VA) March 4th, 1797-March 4th, 1805
3. Alexander Hamilton (N-NY)/Bushrod Washington (N-VA) March 4th, 1805-March 4th, 1813
4. DeWitt Clinton (R,RR-NY)/James Monroe (R-VA) March 4th, 1813-March 4th, 1817
5. James Madison (R-VA)/Nathaniel Macon (R-NC) March 4th, 1817-March 4th, 1821
6. John Quincy Adams (N-MA)/Henry Clay (N-KY), Richard Rush (N-PA) March 4th, 1821-March 4th, 1829
7. William Clark (R, P-MO)/John C. Calhoun (R-SC), Martin Van Buren (P-NY) March 4th, 1829-March 4th, 1837
8. John C. Calhoun (P-SC)/Martin Van Buren (P-NY) March 4th, 1837-July 4th, 1837
9. Martin Van Buren (P-NY)/vacant July 4th, 1837-March 4th, 1841

10. Henry Clay (NR-KY)/Theodore Frelinghuysen (NR-NJ) March 4th, 1841-March 4th, 1849
11. John Tyler (P-VA)/Levi Woodbury (P-NH) March 4th, 1849-March 4th, 1853
12. Martin Van Buren (L-NY)/Charles F. Adams (L-MA) March 4th, 1853-March 4th, 1857
13. Charles F. Adams (L-MA)/Abraham Lincoln (L-IL) March 4th, 1857-March 4th, 1861
14. Charles Sumner (L-MA)/Salmon P. Chase (L-OH) March 4th, 1861-March 4th, 1869
15. Abraham Lincoln (W-IL)/Andrew Johnson (W-TN) March 4th, 1869-March 4th, 1877
16. Samuel J. Tilden (L-NY)/Oliver P. Morton (L-IN) March 4th, 1877-March 4th, 1881
17. James L. Kemper (W-VA)/Conrad Baker (W-IN) March 4th, 1881-March 4th, 1885
18. Thomas F. Bayard (L-DE)/Rutherford B. Hayes (L-OH), John Sherman (L-OH) March 4th, 1885-March 4th, 1893
19. James B. Weaver (W-IA)/Henry M. Teller (W-CO) March 4th, 1893-March 4th, 1897
20. Thomas B. Reed (L-ME)/Joseph B. Foraker (L-OH) March 4th, 1897-March 4th, 1901
21. Thomas Watson (W-GA)/William Jennings Bryan (W-NE) March 4th, 1901-September 5th, 1901
22. William Jennings Byran (W-NE)/vacant, Fred Dubois (W-ID) September 5th, 1901-March 4th, 1909

23. Henry Cabot Lodge (L-MA)/Theodore Roosevelt (L-DK) March 4th, 1909-July 13th, 1912
24. Theodore Roosevelt (L-DK)/vacant, George Gray (L-DE) July 13th, 1912-March 4th, 1921
25. Charles Evan Hughes (L-NY)/Newton D. Baker (L-OH) March 4th, 1921-March 4th, 1925

26. Hiram W. Johnson (W-CA)/Joseph T. Robinson (W-AR) March 4th, 1925-March 4th, 1929
27. David I. Walsh (L-MA)/Frederick W. Steiwer (L-OR) March 4th, 1929-March 4th, 1937
28. Arthur H. Vandenberg (L-MI)/Alfred Landon (L-KS) March 4th, 1937-March 4th, 1945

29. Henry A. Wallace (P-IA)/Robert M. La Follette Jr. (P-WI) March 4th, 1945-March 4th, 1949
29. Theodore Roosevelt Jr. (L-CA)/Joseph P. Kennedy (L-MA) March 4th, 1949-March 4th, 1953
30. Adlai E. Stevenson II (P-IL)/Earl Warren (P-CA) March 4th, 1949-March 4th, 1953
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Presidents/ Vice-Presidents of the United States
42. Paul Tsongas/ Bill Clinton (1993-1995)
Tsongas resigns early 1995, when his lymphoma returns.
43. Bill Clinton/ George Mitchell (1995-2001)
Bill Clinton/ Energy Secretary Al Gore (2001-2005)
The 1996 Republican ticket is Governor Jeb Bush of Florida/ Senator Phil Gramm of Texas.
The 2000 Republican ticket is former Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney/ Representative John Kasich of Ohio.
44. John McCain/ Mike Bloomberg (2005-2013)
The 2004 Democratic ticket is Al Gore/ Senator Niki Tsongas of Massachusetts.
The 2008 Democratic ticket is Governor Barack Obama of Illinois/ former Senator John Edwards of North Carolina.
45. Mike Bloomberg/ Lisa Murkowski (2013-2017)
The 2012 Republican ticket is former Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska/ Senator George Pataki of New York.
The 2012 Democratic ticket is Senator Hillary Clinton of Illinois/ Governor Eliot Spitzer of New York.
46. Governor Mitt Romney of Utah/ Senator Scott Brown of Massachusetts (2017-2025)
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Explanations...
In February 18 1992, Paul Tsongas surrogate Barney Frank bursts Bill Clinton's bubble after the New Hampshire primary, asking how Bill Clinton could have been the comeback kid if he only finished second.
Tsongas still chose Clinton as his running mate. As a former northeastern legislator, he benefited from the addition of a well-vetted Southern Governor to his ticket.

New York Governor Mario Cuomo was talked into joining the Supreme Court.
Rudy Giuliani lost his 1993 mayoral campaign in a very close election.
With a Massachusetts Democrat in the White House, Mitt Romney decided not to run against Ted Kennedy for Senate.

In 1994, Jeb Bush was elected Governor of Florida, while Rudy Giuliani was elected Governor of New York.
Jeb Bush's 1996 defeat ended the Bush legacy as far as presidential elections were concerned.

In 1996, Massachusetts Governor William Weld defeated John Kerry in the Senate election.

In 1997, Mike Bloomberg became the first Republican mayor of New York City since Lindsay. He ended up getting the credit for the drop in crime.
Bill Clinton chose to run for a second full term.  In the 2000 New York Senate election, Lieutenant Governor George Pataki defeated HUD Secretary Andrew Cuomo.

With George W Bush deciding he wasn't going to be the third Bush to lose a Presidential election, his father's former backers convinced Cheney to run for President.

In 2002, former first lady Niki Tsongas defeated William Weld in the Massachusetts Senate election.

Hillary Clinton ran for Senate in 2004 in the state in which she was born. In order to avoid a primary, she supported State Senator Barack Obama in his 2006 gubernatorial primary challenge against Incumbent Rod Blagojevich.
Mitt Romney was elected Governor of Utah. He had consistently claimed to be a pro-life conservative since the mid-1990s.
Bloomberg's endorsement helped McCain defeat Giuliani in the 2004 Presidential primary.

Sarah Palin served a full term as Governor of Alaska, before running for President.
Bloomberg realized he had no shot of winning the Republican primary, so he announced in 2011 that he would run for President as an Independent. He picked Lisa Murkowski as his running mate, because she was familiar with both Palin and Hillary Clinton. Her hatred of Palin was considered to be the main reason she switched parties.
Both Palin and Clinton picked New Yorkers as running mates in the hopes of swinging the state in a three way race.
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Awesome list, Mr. Mets. I'd love to see it as a full fledged tl someday.
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After Ronald Reagan, the 40th President was assassinated by John Hinckley on March 30 1981, George H.W. Bushsucceeded to the Presidency, and as the 41st President, served until January 20, 1989: Bush defeated former Vice President Walter Mondale and his running mate Senator Lloyd Bentsen of Texas in a landslide: Bush had selected SenatorRobert Dole of Kansas under the 25th Amendment: Dole and his running mate Senator Richard Lugar of Indiana lost the 1988 election by a narrow margin to Democrat Senator Monroe Fields of Kentucky and his running mate, GovernorDaniel Lewis of California: the Republican Presidential nominee, in 1992 was Senator Andrew Neal of Florida, but he failed to catch fire and lost the election to the Fields-Lewis ticket; four years later, the Republicans opted to select the more attractive and savvy Governor Eugene Maxwell of Ohio and his running mate, SenatorRoger Burke of Virginia defeated Daniel Lewis by a closer than election margin, however in 2000, in a rematch, Lewis narrowly defeated Maxwell in an upset; the result of the 2000 election was closer than expected: in 2004, Lewis and his Vice President, Edward Daniels were reelected by a decisive margin over the Republican challenger, Governor Frank Morrison of Kansas. On July 16, 2005, President Lewis while on a visit to Pittsburgh was assassinated and Edward Daniels became the 45th President: Daniels had the misfortune of being President when Hurricane Katrina struck New Orleans in September of 2005, his mishandling of this crisis as well as the disastrous results for the Democrats in the 2006 mid term elections, Republicans gained control of both the House and Senate; the news coming out of Iraq and Afghanistan didn't improve matters for the Daniels administration.
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During 2007, the political world was taken by storm with the entry of the young Senator from Texas, Michael Barnes: it became clear that Barnes who was married to, Katherine the daughter of former President, Eugene Maxwell: the marriage was blessed with picture perfect children: on top of his youth and telegenic appeal, Barnes had intelligence, charisma and intellectual heft and on top of which, he was a bona fide war hero, having won the Medal of Honor for Gallantry during the Battle of Mogadishu, in 1993: Barnes assisted by a top notch staff, the best and brightest in political circles, assembled a first class fund-raising operation using the internet and this combined with more traditional methods of funding, enabled Barnes to construct the most efficient campaign organization in history, this added to Barnes' skills in debating and speaking ensured that the young Texan built enough momentum to guarantee an easy ride to his party's presidential nomination and within weeks of officially being designated by the Republican party as there nominee, there was a meltdown on Wall Street and the calm and sure footed way in which the 42-year-old candidate handled himself in the aftermath, as well as during the campaign and the three debates he and and the incumbent, Edward Daniels participated in, as well as Daniels own conducted, solidified Barnes' widening lead in the polls: The only question which remained to be answered on Election Day, 2008 was how large would the victory be for the Barnes-Creighton ticket, the answer came, when Barnes carried 45 states and won 475 electoral votes to 63 for Daniels (see map later), the Republican ticket garnered over 59% of the vote and had a popular vote margin of over 19,000,000 votes.
Barnes assembled a first rate administration and opted for a bipartisan flavor in his appointments. The next few years while difficult for the Barnes-Creighton administration, saw reform enacted in the healthcare and banking sectors: Barnes had three opportunities during his first term to appoint supreme court appointments: in 2012, Robert Samuelsof Massachusetts was the Democratic nominee, but wasn't able to make much headway in his efforts to unseat the incumbent and as President, Michael Barnes enjoyed stratospheric approval ratings, despite the sluggish economy and the results on Election Day 2012 (November 6 2012), confirmed the opinion poll readings throughout the year, Barnes won 66% of the popular vote, far surpassing the 61% won by another Texan in 1964 and like LBJ , the 46-year-old Barnes carried the larger states by record breaking margins, he won 532 Electoral votes, carrying 49 states and winning a popular vote majority of over 30,000,000, the greatest margin in U.S. political history: During his second term, Barnes was confronted with heightened tensions in the Middle Crisis, also Nuclear terrorism preoccupied the president and his efforts to negotiate a comprehensive Strategic Offensive weapons Reduction Treaty (SORT) coupled with a Nuclear Terrorism Treaty won for Barnes the Nobel Peace Prize: in 2016, Katherine Barnes was elected to the U.S. Senate from Florida, even as Creighton narrowly lost the presidential election to GovernorDwight Henderson of North Carolina and Senator Charles Kent of West Virginia: the Henderson administration was confronted with a crisis of epic proportions in the Middle East, a year into his administration, when the lynchpin to U.S. interests in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia was the center of an Islamic Revolution which overthrew the Monarchy and forced the Royal family into exile: Sunni and Shiite Muslims fought for dominance and the result was a Civil War in Saudi Arabia: the refusal by Henderson's administration to deploy a Rapid Deployment Force (RDF) to intervene in the crisis was criticized by many in the foreign policy community and by former President, Michael Barnes as well. The fact the still politically potent and popular former occupant of the Oval Office, ensured that Republicans prompted by Barnes' unprecedented speech condemning his successor's policies and inaction, found new courage and as the 2020 election campaign began to heat up, Henderson faced more headaches, including a downturn in the U.S. Economy and hyperinflation caused by shortages in Oil and Petroleum: Governor Henry Wheeler of Texas called for the opening of the Alaska Wildlife Nature Reserve for Oil exploration and drilling: suddenly Wheeler and his policies gained new life and cache in political circles and he began to replicate the Barnes playbook from the 2008 campaign; the Republicans returned to Minnesota and it was at the Hubert Humphrey Metrodome, that Wheeler was nominated and his selection of Senator Katherine Barnes of Florida was seen as an inspired choice to be sure. The Democrats met in Chicago, to renominate President Dwight Henderson and Vice President, Charles Kent. The outcome on November 3, 2020 resulted in the Wheeler-Barnes ticket defeating the Henderson-Kent ticket, 54.4% to 45.0%, the Republicans didn't win a victory on the scale of the 2008 and 2012 triumphs, but a win was a win and Henry 'Hank' Wheeler became the 48th President on January 20, 2021 and served until July 2, 2023 when terrorists struck, firing a SAM at Marine One as it landed on the South Lawn of the White House returning from Camp David. Katherine Barnes became America's first woman and the 49th President: it would the first time in American history in which two spouses would have both occupied the presidency. The new President, nominated Edward Morris of New York to fill the vacancy in the Vice Presidency. Well over a year later, Katherine Barnes and Morris won the 2024 election, winning 57.9% to 41.2% for Senator Harry Jensen of Nebraska. Barnes won 462Electoral votes, winning all but 7 states and the District of Columbia, while Jensen managed to capture 76 Electoral Votes. The Barnes administration confronted the fall-out from the fall-out from the Saudi Arabian crisis: however by 2027, with the 2028 election in the horizon, with discontent evident from the electorate as well as fatigue from eight years of the Wheeler-Barnes-Morris administration as well as deep fissures of division within the Republican Party base, Katherine Barnes bowed to the inevitable and declined to seek another party: there was a donnybrook of a battle between the Morris and Petty wings of the Republican Party. The battle for the presidential nomination was both divisive and vicious: both Morris and Robert Petty, who had served a stint as Secretary of State under Barnes until he resigned to campaign for the nomination: both Morris and Petty had an equal amount of delegates. The strain proved to much for Morris and he suffered a fatal heart attack on August 25th, during the fourth ballot at the party's convention which was being held in Boston: The death of Morris, prompted an intervention on the part of both Katherine Barnes and her husband, the former President: Petty emerged as the default winner on the fifth ballot and President Barnes invoked the 25th Amendment and nominated Petty to fill the vacancy in the Vice Presidency: his confirmation was timely, if not speedy: The Democratic nominee, Senator Howard Davenport of Pennsylvania and his running mate, Senator Larry Meyers of Washington State; the outcome of the 2028 election was closer than expected and the results were 285 Electoral Votes and 52.7%for Davenport-Meyers and 253 Electoral Votes and 46.3% for Petty. Four years later, Katherine Barnes made a successful bid to once again occupy the White House and she defeated Howard Davenport and won with 55.5% to 42.9% for Davenport and on January 20, 2033 she became 51st President of the United States.
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2001-2005 S-TN Al Gore/P-FLBob Graham NH and Florida goes to Gore
2005-2009 T AZ John McCain/cc Colin Powell
2009-2017 PVA Mark Warner/POH Ted Strickland
2017-2021 T LA Bobby Jindall/ T SD Thune
2021-2025 S Joe Sestak/ P Mark Begich
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Here are the maps:
1988 Gilchrist vs. Dole

306 Electoral Votes for Gilchrist.
232 Electoral Votes for Dole.

1992 Gilchrist vs. Samuels

353 Electoral Votes for Gilchrist.
185 Electoral Votes for Samuels.

1996 Henderson vs. Raymond.

285 Electoral Votes for Henderson.
253 Electoral Votes for Raymond

2000 Wheeler vs. Henderson.

308 Electoral Votes for Wheeler.
230 Electoral Votes for Henderson.

2004 Daniels vs. Casimir

314 Electoral Votes for Daniels.
224 Electoral Votes for Casimir.

2008 Adams vs. Daniels.

475 Electoral Votes for Adams.
63 Electoral Votes for Daniels.

2012 Adams vs. Jensen.

532 Electoral Votes for Adams.
6 Electoral Votes for Jensen.

2016 Maxwell vs. Creighton

292 Electoral Votes for Maxwell.
246 Electoral Votes for Creighton

2020 Benson vs. Maxwell.

367 Electoral Votes for Benson
171 Electoral Votes for Maxwell

2024 Benson vs. Hoag

462 Electoral Votes for Benson
76 Electoral Votes for Hoag

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18. Ulysses S. Grant (Republican): 1869-1877
19. James G. Blaine (Republican): 1877-1881
20. Ulysses S. Grant (Republican): 1881-1881
21. Chester A. Arthur (Republican): 1881-1885
22. William Tecumseh Sherman (Republican): 1885-1893
23. William McKinley (Republican,
then Liberal Republican): 1893-1897
24. William Jennings Bryan (People's): 1897-1901
25. Adlai Stevenson (People's): 1901-1909

26. George Dewey (Liberal): 1909-1909
27. Theodore Roosevelt (Liberal): 1909-1913

28. Adlai Stevenson (People's): 1913-1917
29. John J. Pershing (Liberal): 1917-1918
30. Hiram Johnson (Liberal): 1918-1921

31. Henry Ford (People's): 1921-1929
32. Norman Thomas (Socialist, then Popular Unity): 1929-1933
33. Burton K. Wheeler (Popular Unity,
then People's): 1933-1937
34. Smedley Butler (Socialist): 1937-1945
35. Thomas Dewey (Democratic): 1945-1949
36. Henry A. Wallace (Socialist): 1949-1950
37. Glen H. Taylor (Socialist): 1950-1953

38. Bob Taft (Democratic): 1953-1957
39. Hubert Humphrey (Socialist): 1957-1961
40. Barry Goldwater (Democratic): 1961-1965
41. Dwight Eisenhower (Socialist): 1965-1969
42. Ronald Reagan (Socialist): 1969-1977
43. Jeane Kirkpatrick (Socialist): 1977-1981

44. George H.W. Bush (Democratic): 1981-1989
45. Richard M. Nixon (Socialist): 1989-1991
46. Michael Harrington (Socialist): 1991-1997
47. Colin Powell (Socialist): 1997-2001

48. George W. Bush (Democratic): 2001-present
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My History Teacher's Dream Come True
Also known as: Snowstalker's Dream Come True

28. Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ)/Thomas Marshall (D-IN), Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY) 1913-1925
29. John Calvin Coolidge (R-MA)/Frank O. Lowden (R-MA) 1925-1933
30. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY)/John Nance Garner (D-TX), Harry S. Truman (D-MO) 1933-1949
31. Harry S. Truman (D-MO)/Alben W. Bakrley (D-KY) 1949-1957

32. Richard M. Nixon (R-CA)/Hugh Scott (R-PA) 1957-1965
33. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX)/Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN) 1965-1973
34. Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN)/Terry Sanford (D-NC) 1973-1979
35. Terry Sanford (D-NC)/vacant, Walter Mondale (D-MN) 1979-1981

36. Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA)/George H.W. Bush (R-TX) 1981-1989
37. William Jefferson Clinton (D-AR)/Albert S. Gore Jr. (D-TN) 1989-1997
38. Albert S. Gore Jr. (D-TN)/Paul Wellstone (D-MN) 1997-2005

39. John S. McCain III (R-AZ)/Kay Bailey Hutchinson (R-TX) 2005-2009
40. Hillary R. Clinton (D-AR)/Barack Obama (D-IL) 2009-2017
41. Barack Obama (D-IL)/Andrew Cuomo (D-NY) 2017-2025
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Presidents of the United States



1980



Governor John B. Anderson of Illinois / Governor Jerry Brown of California - Frontier Party - 359 Electoral Votes, 57.3% Popular Vote
Governor William Milliken of Michigan / Senator Phil Crane of Illinois - Democratic Party - 179 Electoral Votes - 40.1% Popular Vote
Other - 2.6%


1984



President John B. Anderson of Illinois / Vice President Jerry Brown of California - Frontier Party - 457 Electoral Votes, 61.2% Popular Vote
Senator Henry Jackson of Washington* / Governor Reubin Askew of Florida - Democratic Party - 26 Electoral Votes, 20.5% Popular Vote 
Governor Howard Baker of Tennessee / Congressman George H.W Bush of Connecticut - Progressive Party -  55 Electoral Votes, 18.3% Popular Vote



*Henry Jackson would die the day before the election while on the campaign trail.
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Alternate Career of John Ellis Bush

1994 - Narrowly defeats Democratic incumbent Lawton Chiles, his brother George W. Bush loses the race for Governor to Democratic incumbent Ann Richards

1995 - Jeb Bush is inaugurated as Governor of Florida

1996 - President Bill Clinton is reelected as President of the United States defeating Bob Dole and  Jack Kemp

1998 - Governor Jeb Bush wins a second term in office, his brother George W. Bush defeats the Democrat running for Governor in Texas.

1999 - Jeb Bush announces that he will seek the Republican nomination for President
June 2000 - After a tough primary with more conservative candidate Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah, Bush loses the nomination battle to Hatch.

August 2000 - Republican nominee Senator Orrin Hatch selects Senator John McCain over Jeb Bush. Some Republicans vote for Bush anyway at the convention even though Bush endorses Hatch/McCain. Al Gore picks former Texas Governor Ann Richards

November 2000 - Hatch/McCain loses to Gore/Richards 398-140.



January 2001 - Vice President Al Gore is inaugurated.

September/October 2001 - After 9/11, President Gore sends US and UN forces into Afghanistan to root out Osama Bin Laden.

November 2002 - Democrats lose seats in both the House and Senate. George W. Bush wins a second term as Governor of Texas.

December 2002 - Jeb Bush announces that he will seek the Presidency again.

March 2003 - Jeb Bush wins the Republican nomination for the Presidency.

May - Jeb Bush announces his Vice Presidential pick as NJ Governor Christine Todd Whitman

November - Bush/Whitman defeats Gore/Richards 273-265. Republicans secure control of the Senate, Democrats keep House.



January 2005 - Jeb Bush is sworn in as the 44th President of the United States. Christine Todd Whitman is the first female Vice President of the United States.

November 2006 - Republicans lose the Senate to the Democrats, House goes to the Republicans in a weird reversal.

December 2007 - Ann Richards, who was widely speculated to run for President, dies. Polls had shown her beating President Bush.

January 2007 - Senator Hillary Clinton of New York, Governor Wesley Clark of Virginia, Governor Tom Vilsack of Iowa amongst others announce that they will seek the Democratic nomination.

March 2008 - Senator Hillary Clinton wins the Democratic nomination for President.

June 2008 - Senator Hillary Clinton picks Governor Tom Vilsack of Iowa as her running mate.

November 2008 - Bush/Whitman narrowly defeats Clinton/Vilsack. Bush increased his electoral victory from 273 to 275. Both Houses now controlled by Republicans.



2009 - Bush/Whitman sworn in for a second term.

November 2010 - Republicans lose some seats but maintain control in Congress.

January 2011 - Governor Barack Obama of Illinois announces that he will seek the Democratic nomination amongst others.

March 2012 - Democrat Barack Obama secures the Democratic nomination. Vice President Christine Todd Whitman secures the Vice Presidential nomination.

July 2012 - Christine Todd Whitman announces her Vice Presidential pick will be South Dakota Senator John Thune. Barack Obama announces his Vice Presidential pick of Governor Tim Kaine of Virginia.

September 2012 - Lehman Brothers goes bankrupt and the world economy slides into a deep recession. Many blame the Bush Administration. Bush's approval drops to 38%, the lowest of his time in office.

November 2012 - Obama/Kaine defeats Whitman/Thune 409-129



January 2013 - Bush leaves office with a 35% approval rating. Obama/Kaine inaugurated.
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An Earlier Rise of the Roosevelts

Isaac Roosevelt (1726-1794)
In 1789, while searching for a Treasury Secretary, George Washington considered many folks. However, with Alexander Hamilton (the recommendation of Washington's first choice, Roger Morris) instead taking a seat in the United States Senate along side his father-in-law Phillip Schuyler, Hamilton recommended the former President of the Bank of New York and his former business partner Isaac Roosevelt. Roosevelt had been a longstanding politician in New York and was of course one of its foremost bankers. Dedicated to public service, Roosevelt agreed to take the position. With advice from his good friend Hamilton as well as ideas coming from Roger Morris (then a PA Senator), Roosevelt set out to create a strong and prosperous Republic. Roosevelt died in 1794 and was replaced by Gouverneour Morris. Hamilton would later die in a duel with the Senator who replaced his father-in-law: Aaron Burr.

James Roosevelt (1760-1847)
For James Roosevelt, son of Isaac, there would be a large legacy to live up to. The son of a man who had risen both in business and in politics to become 2nd President of the Bank of New York and 1st United States Treasury Secretary, Isaac soon found himself engaged in politics. In 1796 he joined the New York State Assembly. In 1804, following a few years in the Assembly, and a couple as an Alderman in New York City, Roosevelt was elected Governor of New York as a Federalist in a three-way race with former Senator Aaron Burr and State Senator Morgan Lewis. In 1807 he lost re-election to Daniel D. Thompkins.

Retiring from politics for a spell and going back to banking, Roosevelt was elected President of the Bank of New York in 1809. A staunch supporter of President Madison in the election of 1812 against his fellow New Yorker DeWitt Clinton (who in fact was the nephew of the late Vice President George Clinton, a New York rival of Roosevelt when he'd been in politics), Roosevelt, through newspapers, begged other Federalists to stand up for their country instead of England and support President Madison. Madison went on to win the election narrowly. Later in life, as the Federalists died off, James Roosevelt become one of the many nationalist Republicans (to be later termed as Democratic-Republicans in order to make history less confusing). In 1815 with the War of 1812 over, James Monroe left the War Department. In order to help unify and strengthen his party, Madison selected Roosevelt to replace Monroe. James Roosevelt served as the nation's War Secretary from 1815 to 1817. Elected Governor of New York for a second term in 1822, Roosevelt's final political act would be to cast his vote as an elector in favor of Secretary of State John Quincy Adams of Massachusetts.

Isaac Roosevelt (1790-1863)
Isaac, unlike his namesake and his father, had little interest in politics. However, politics seemed to find him. Initially only serving in the New York State Assembly during the 1810's at the behest of family members, he found what he thoughts was his true calling as a banker and businessman, in fact being ranked as the richest man in the United States in 1819. However, the debate over slavery would find a place in his heart as he became an active abolitionist among New York's aristocracy. At the 1844 Whig National Convention, Isaac supported Daniel Webster and in 1845 he was elected a Senator from New York. In the Senate he campaigned fiercely for the abolitionist cause. Such was his prominence on the issue that his name was submitted to the 1848 Whig Convention. While not nominated for President, he did win the Vice Presidential nomination in a surprise. In all irony he found himself on a ticket that was being opposed by former President Van Buren, a man that Roosevelt had come to respect over the last eight years.

As Vice President, Roosevelt was kept largely out of the limelight. That all changed however on July 8th, 1850 with the sudden death of President Zachary Taylor....

To Be Continued....



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With an anti-slavery Northern at the helm, congressional relations soon began to fall apart. Attempts at compromise made by "the triumvirate" were stalled due to the new President's abolitionist stance. With tensions growing greater by the day, it became clear that Roosevelt's administration would not be one of success. Nevertheless, he pressed on, continuing to veto attempts at compromise. Congressional negotiations came to a stand-still and it seemed that the only reason the nation hadn't begun to break apart was that those in the Senate had agreed to wait until after the 1852 elections to settle their disagreements.

The 1852 election found a President without a party. Roosevelt, forced to run on the Free Soil ticket for re-election, was going up against former Attorney General John Crittenden of Kentucky (W) and former Senator Franklin W. Pierce.

'Kay, I'm dragging this out longer than I should, so I'll just skip to the list.

12. Zachary Taylor (Whig-Louisiana) March 4, 1849-July 9, 1850
13. Isaac Roosevelt II (Whig/
Free Soil-New York) July 9, 1850-March 4, 1853
14. John J. Crittenden (Whig-Kentucky) March 4, 1853-March 4, 1857
15. Stephen Douglas (Democrat-Illinois) March 4, 1857-June 3, 1861
16. John C. Breckenridge (Democrat-Kentucky) June 3, 1861-March 4, 1865

17. Salmon P. Chase (Republican-Ohio) March 4, 1865-March 4, 1873
18. John Thompson Hoffman (Democrat-New York) March 4, 1873-March 4, 1877
19. Theodore Roosevelt I (Republican-New York) March 4, 1877-February 29, 1882
20. James A. Garfield (Republican-Ohio) February 29, 1882-March 4, 1885
21. Charles Foster (Republican-Ohio) March 4, 1885-March 4, 1889

22. David B. Hill (Democrat-New York) March 4, 1889-March 4, 1893
23. Thomas Bracket Reed (Republican-Maine) March 4, 1893-March 4, 1897
24. Thomas Watson (Populist-Georgia) March 4, 1897-March 4, 1901
25. Theodore Roosevelt II (Republican-New York) March 4, 1901-September 17, 1907
26. Joseph B. Foraker (Republican-Ohio) September 17, 1907-March 4, 1909


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An Earlier Rise of the Roosevelts

Isaac Roosevelt (1726-1794)
In 1789, while searching for a Treasury Secretary, George Washington considered many folks. However, with Alexander Hamilton (the recommendation of Washington's first choice, Roger Morris) instead taking a seat in the United States Senate along side his father-in-law Phillip Schuyler, Hamilton recommended the former President of the Bank of New York and his former business partner Isaac Roosevelt. Roosevelt had been a longstanding politician in New York and was of course one of its foremost bankers. Dedicated to public service, Roosevelt agreed to take the position. With advice from his good friend Hamilton as well as ideas coming from Roger Morris (then a PA Senator), Roosevelt set out to create a strong and prosperous Republic. Roosevelt died in 1794 and was replaced by Gouverneour Morris. Hamilton would later die in a duel with the Senator who replaced his father-in-law: Aaron Burr.

James Roosevelt (1760-1847)
For James Roosevelt, son of Isaac, there would be a large legacy to live up to. The son of a man who had risen both in business and in politics to become 2nd President of the Bank of New York and 1st United States Treasury Secretary, Isaac soon found himself engaged in politics. In 1796 he joined the New York State Assembly. In 1804, following a few years in the Assembly, and a couple as an Alderman in New York City, Roosevelt was elected Governor of New York as a Federalist in a three-way race with former Senator Aaron Burr and State Senator Morgan Lewis. In 1807 he lost re-election to Daniel D. Thompkins.

Retiring from politics for a spell and going back to banking, Roosevelt was elected President of the Bank of New York in 1809. A staunch supporter of President Madison in the election of 1812 against his fellow New Yorker DeWitt Clinton (who in fact was the nephew of the late Vice President George Clinton, a New York rival of Roosevelt when he'd been in politics), Roosevelt, through newspapers, begged other Federalists to stand up for their country instead of England and support President Madison. Madison went on to win the election narrowly. Later in life, as the Federalists died off, James Roosevelt become one of the many nationalist Republicans (to be later termed as Democratic-Republicans in order to make history less confusing). In 1815 with the War of 1812 over, James Monroe left the War Department. In order to help unify and strengthen his party, Madison selected Roosevelt to replace Monroe. James Roosevelt served as the nation's War Secretary from 1815 to 1817. Elected Governor of New York for a second term in 1822, Roosevelt's final political act would be to cast his vote as an elector in favor of Secretary of State John Quincy Adams of Massachusetts.

Isaac Roosevelt (1790-1863)
Isaac, unlike his namesake and his father, had little interest in politics. However, politics seemed to find him. Initially only serving in the New York State Assembly during the 1810's at the behest of family members, he found what he thoughts was his true calling as a banker and businessman, in fact being ranked as the richest man in the United States in 1819. However, the debate over slavery would find a place in his heart as he became an active abolitionist among New York's aristocracy. At the 1844 Whig National Convention, Isaac supported Daniel Webster and in 1845 he was elected a Senator from New York. In the Senate he campaigned fiercely for the abolitionist cause. Such was his prominence on the issue that his name was submitted to the 1848 Whig Convention. While not nominated for President, he did win the Vice Presidential nomination in a surprise. In all irony he found himself on a ticket that was being opposed by former President Van Buren, a man that Roosevelt had come to respect over the last eight years.

As Vice President, Roosevelt was kept largely out of the limelight. That all changed however on July 8th, 1850 with the sudden death of President Zachary Taylor....

To Be Continued....

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« Reply #1173 on: August 14, 2012, 06:33:08 pm »
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Clinton Dynasty

*No term limit amendment is passed. No one runs or successfully runs for a third term.

42. William J. Clinton - January 20, 1993 - January 20, 2005
43. Tommy G. Thompson - January 20, 2005 - January 20, 2009
44. Hillary R. Clinton - January 20, 2009 - January 20, 2013
45.  Michael D. Huckabee - January 20, 2013 - January 20, 2017
46. Hillary R. Clinton - January 20, 2017 - January 20, 2025
47. Marco Rubio - January 20, 2025 - January 20, 2033
48. Chelsea Victoria Clinton - January 20, 2033 - January  20, 2037

Losing Tickets:

1992 - President Ronald Reagan/Vice President George H.W Bush
1996 - Former Vice President George H.W Bush/Senator Dan Quayle
2000 - Senator Bill Frist/Governor George W. Bush

2004 - Vice President Albert J. Gore/Senator Bill Nelson
2008 - President Tommy Thompson/Vice President Mitt Romney
2012 - President Hillary R. Clinton/Vice President Tom Vilsack
2016 - President Michael D. Huckabee/Vice President Richard Burr
2020-  Governor Paul Ryan/Governor Charlie Crist

2024 - Kirsten Gillibrand/Debbie Wasserman Schultz


 
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36. Barry Goldwater: 1965-1969
37. Edmund Muskie: 1969-1977
38. Ronald Reagan: 1977-1985
39. Jack Kemp: 1985-1993
40. Mario Cuomo: 1993-1997
41. Lamar Alexander: 1997-2011
42. Bill Clinton: 2001-2009
43. Howard Dean: 2009-2013
44. Mitt Romney: 2013-2021
45. Paul Ryan: 2021-2029

Losing Tickets:
1964: Kennedy/Humphrey
1968: Goldwater/Miller
1972: Nixon/Agnew
1976: Kennedy/Bayh
1980: Mondale/Udall
1984: Dukakis/Gore
1988: Clinton/Kerrey
1992: Dole/Specter
1996: Cuomo/Gore
2000: Alexander/Gingrich
2004: Bush/McCain
2008: Huckabee/Pawlenty
2012: Dean/Warner
2016: Clinton/Schweitzer
2020: O'Malley/Booker
2024: Booker/Gillibrand

No 22nd Amendment:

40. Ronald Reagan: 1981-1993
41. Mario Cuomo: 1993-2001
42. George W. Bush: 2001-2005
43. Bill Clinton: 2005-present
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