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« Reply #1525 on: November 16, 2014, 04:03:35 AM »

A Primary Challenge and Madam President

45. Hillary Clinton / Brian Schweitzer: 2013-2021
46. Chris Christie / Susana Martinez: 2021-2029
47. Susana Martinez / Larry Hogan: 2029-2037
48. Cory Booker / Eric Stalwell: 2037-?
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« Reply #1526 on: November 16, 2014, 09:19:49 PM »

37. Hubert Humphrey: 1969-1977
38. Ronald Reagan: 1977-1981
39. Gary Hart: 1981-1989
40. George H.W. Bush: 1989-1997
41. Bob Dole: 1997-2001
42. Bill Clinton: 2001-2009
43. Mitt Romney: 2009-2017

Defeated Tickets:
1968: Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew
1972: Nelson Rockefeller/Gerald Ford
1976: Edmund Muskie/Walter Mondale
1980: Ronald Reagan/Gerald Ford
1984: Gerald Ford/Howard Baker
1988: Jimmy Carter/Michael Dukakis
1992: Paul Tsongas/Al Gore
1996: Mario Cuomo/Sam Nunn

2000: John McCain/John Engler
2004: George W. Bush/Dick Cheney

2008: John Kerry/Howard Dean
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« Reply #1527 on: November 19, 2014, 02:04:44 AM »

Going South

37. Richard M. Nixon (R-CA)/James D. Martin (R-AL) 1969-1974
38. James D. Martin (R-AL)/vacant, Gerald R. Ford (R-MI) 1974-1981
39. William Proxmire (D-WI)/Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) 1981-1989
40. Haley Barbour (R-MS)/Jack Kemp (R-NY) 1989-1997
41. Paul Tsongas (D-MA)/J. James Exon (D-NE) 1997-1998
42. J. James Exon (D-NE)/vacant, Albert Gore, Jr. (D-TN) 1998-2001

43. J. Richard Perry (R-TX)/Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL) 2001-2009/color]
44. Russell Feingold (D-WI)/Joseph R. Biden (D-DE) 2009-2017
45. Albert Gore, Jr. (D-TN)/Barack Obama (D-IL) 2017-2021

46. Scott Brown (R-MA)/Thomas Cotton (R-AR) 2021-?
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« Reply #1528 on: November 19, 2014, 02:17:51 AM »

Here's one where the Republicans don't go crazy right-wing. Kennedy defeats Reagan by a landslide in 1980.

38. Gerald Ford (R-MI) / Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) 1974-1977
38. Gerald Ford (R-MI) / Bob Dole (R-KS) 1977-1981
39. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) / Frank Church (D-ID) 1981-84
39. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) / Gary Hart (D-CO) 1984-89
40. Gary Hart (D-CO) / Joe Biden (D-DE) 1989-1993
41. Bob Dole (R-KS) / Lowell Weicker (R-CT) 1993-2001
42. Gary Hart (D-CO) / John Kerry (D-MA) 2001-2005
43. John McCain (R-AZ) / Arlen Specter (R-PA) 2005-2009
43. Elizabeth Warren (R-MA) / Gordon Smith (R-OR) 2009-2017
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« Reply #1529 on: November 19, 2014, 04:41:16 PM »

Here's one where the Republicans don't go crazy right-wing. Kennedy defeats Reagan by a landslide in 1980.

38. Gerald Ford (R-MI) / Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) 1974-1977
38. Gerald Ford (R-MI) / Bob Dole (R-KS) 1977-1981
39. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) / Frank Church (D-ID) 1981-84
39. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) / Gary Hart (D-CO) 1984-89
40. Gary Hart (D-CO) / Joe Biden (D-DE) 1989-1993
41. Bob Dole (R-KS) / Lowell Weicker (R-CT) 1993-2001
42. Gary Hart (D-CO) / John Kerry (D-MA) 2001-2005
43. John McCain (R-AZ) / Arlen Specter (R-PA) 2005-2009
43. Elizabeth Warren (R-MA) / Gordon Smith (R-OR) 2009-2017

Interesting list. I forgot about Elizabeth Warren being a Republican at one point.
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« Reply #1530 on: November 20, 2014, 02:27:18 PM »

1. John Adams (Federalist-MA) 1789-1797
2. Thomas Jefferson (Republican-VA) 1797-1801
3. John Adams (F-MA) 1801-1809
4. Charles Pinckney (F-SC) 1809-1817
5. Rufus King (F-MA) 1817-1825
6. Andrew Jackson (R-TN) 1825-1829
7. John Q. Adams (F-MA) 1829-1837
8. William H. Harrison (F-OH) 1837-1841
9. Martin Van Buren (R-NY) 1841*
10. Richard M. Johnson (R-KY) 1841-1845
11. Henry Clay (F-KY) 1845-1849
12. Lewis Cass (R-MI) 1849-1850*
13. William O. Butler (R-KY) 1850-1853
14. Winfield Scott (F-NJ) 1853-1857
15. John C. Fremont (F-CA) 1857-1861
16. Stephen Douglas (R-IL) 1861-1865**
17. Herschel V. Johnson (R-GA) 1865-1869
18. Horatio Seymour (R-NY) 1869-1877
19. Samuel Tilden (R-NY) 1877-1881
20. Winfield S. Hancock (R-PA) 1881**
21. William H. English (R-IN) 1881-1885
22. James G. Blaine (F-ME) 1885-1889
23. Grover Cleveland (R-NY) 1889-1893
24. Benjamin Harrison (F-IN) 1893-1897
25. William J. Bryan (R-NE) 1897-1901**
26. Adlai Stevenson I (R-IL) 1901-1909
27. John A. Johnson (R-MN) 1909-1913
28. Theodore Roosevelt (Democratic-NY) 1913-1921
29. James Cox (R-OH) 1921-1923*
30. Franklin Roosevelt (R-NY) 1923-1929
31. Al Smith (R-NY) 1929-1933
32. Herbert Hoover (F-CA) 1933-1945*
33. John W. Bricker (F-OH) 1945-1953
34. Adlai Stevenson II (R-IL) 1953-1961
35. Richard M. Nixon (F-CA) 1961-1963**
36. Henry C. Lodge (F-MA) 1963-1969
37. Hubert H. Humphrey (R-MN) 1969-1974***
38. Eugene McCarthy (R-MN) 1974-1977
39. Gerald Ford (R-MI) 1977-1981
40. Jimmy Carter (R-GA) 1981-1989
41. Michael Dukakis (R-MA) 1989-1993
42. George H.W. Bush (F-TX) 1993-2001
43. Albert A. "Al" Gore (R-TN) 2001-2009
44. John McCain (F-AZ) 2009-2017

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« Reply #1531 on: November 29, 2014, 11:53:29 PM »

Humphrey wins in 1968

36. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX) 1963-1969 declined to run for a second full term
37. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) 1969-1973 defeated

38. Mark Hatfield (R-OR) 1973-1981 term-limited
39. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) 1981-1989 term limited
40. Birch Bayh (D-IN) 1989-1994 resigned over threats of impeachment following corruption scandal
41. Mario Cuomo (D-NY) 1994-1997 defeated

42. Steve Forbes (R-NY) 1997-2005 term-limited
43. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX) 2005-2009 first female president, defeated

44. John Edwards (D-NC) 2009-2017
45. Scott Walker (R-WI) 2017-2021 defeated
46. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) 2021-2026 oldest president, died in office
47. Cory Booker (D-NJ) 2026-2029 first African American president, defeated
48. Marilinda Garcia (R-NH) 2029- first Hispanic president
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« Reply #1532 on: November 30, 2014, 01:25:25 PM »

37.  Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew (1969-1973), Ronald Reagan (1973-1974) (1969-1974)
38. Ronald Reagan/George Romney (1974-1981)

39. Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale (1981-1985)
40. Gerald Ford/George H.W. Bush (1985-1989)
41. George H.W. Bush/Dan Quayle (1989-1997)
42. George W. Bush/Richard Cheney (1997-2001)

43. William Clinton/John Edwards (2001-2009)
44. Barack Obama/Blanche Lincoln (2008-2017)
45. Hillary Rodham/Mark Warner (2017-2021)

46. Susana Martinez/Neel Kashkari (2021-2029)
47. Neel Kashkari/Tom Cotton (2029-2033)

48. Joaquin Castro/Patrick Murphy (2033-2041)
49. Aaron Schock/Elise Stefanik (2041-2049)
50. Elise Stefanik/Richard Pryor (2049-2053)

51. Joseph Kennedy/Krysten Sinema (2053-2057)
52. Richard Pryor/Niraj Antani (2057-2065)
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« Reply #1533 on: December 01, 2014, 01:10:28 AM »
« Edited: December 01, 2014, 03:48:02 PM by #Ready4Nixon »

6. Martin Van Buren (Republican-New York)/John C. Calhoun (Republican-South Carolina) 1825-1829
7. Henry Clay (National Republican-Kentucky)/Richard Rush (National Republican-Pennsylvania) 1829-1837
8. Daniel Webster (National Republican-Massachusetts)/William Henry Harrison (National Republican-Ohio) 1837-1841

9. Ely Moore (Democrat-New York)/Richard M. Johnson (Democrat-Kentucky) 1841-1849
10. Richard M. Johnson (Democrat-Kentucky)/John P. Hale (Democrat-New Hampshire) 1849-1850
11. John P. Hale (Democrat-New Hampshire)/vacant 1850-1853

12. William A. Graham (National Republican-North Carolina)/James Buchanan (National Republican-Pennsylvania) 1853-1857
13. Millard Fillmore (National Republican-New York)/John J. Crittenden (National Republican-Kentucky) 1857-1861

14. Gerrit Smith (Democrat-New York)/Abraham Lincoln (Democrat-Illinois) 1861-1869
15. Abraham Lincoln (Democrat-Illinois)/John Quincy Adams II (Democrat-Massachusetts 1869-1874
16. John Quincy Adams II (Democrat-Massachusetts)/vacant 1874-1877

17. John F. Hartranft (National Republican-Pennsylvania)/Samuel J. Tilden (National Republican-New York) 1877-1881
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« Reply #1534 on: December 02, 2014, 02:18:06 PM »

Why not to make a non-American list?


1995: John Major Steps Down For Health Reasons

In May 1995 Prime Minister John Major, who had already been considering calling a snap leadership election to confirm his position within a bitterly divided party, suffered a massive heart attack, forcing him to step down. Unable to continue until a new leader is chosen, he advised the Queen to appoint his close ally and Leader of the House of Lords, the Viscount Cranborne, as caretaker PM until a permanent successor can be selected. Cranborne became the first PM to serve from the House of Lords since his great-great-grandfather, the 3rd Marquess of Salisbury. While it's against the convention for a PM to head a full government from the Lords, it's still considered acceptable for caretakers.

A long and chaotic leadership race was marked by a number of potential frontrunners, most notably Michael Portillo, deciding against entering the contest due to poor polling for the Tories. In the end, an obscure Secretary of State for Wales John Redwood, running on a strong Eurosceptic and thatcherite platform, defeated President of the Board of Trade Michael Heseltine, backed by the Major supporters, as there was strong still resentment within the party towards the latter thanks to his role in bringing Thatcher down in 1990.

Within one year since his installment, Prime Minister Redwood decided to call the general election, hoping, if not to win, to at least limit anticipated losses. However, due to a heavy fatigue, as well as Redwoods' own shortcomings, Labour won a massive landslide victory under Gordon Brown (who replaced deceased John Smith in 1994).

Brown's Labour government, the first since James Callaghan left office in 1979, was convinceably reelected in 2000. Four years later, Labour again came first, but without an overall majority, forcing them to form a coalition government with the Liberal Democrats. To pave way for the coalition, as LibDems ruled out serving under him, Brown stepped down. Charles Kennedy, the coalition junior leader, became a caretaker PM (reminiscing the 1967 Australian scenario) until Labour choose a new leader, Jack Straw.

Straw elected to serve a full five years. In 2009, Conservatives regained power under David Davis.


John Major (Conservative), November 28, 1990 - May 8, 1995
Robert Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, the Viscount Cranborne (Conservative), May 8, 1995 - September 12, 1995
John Redwood (Conservative), September 12, 1995 - October 7, 1996
Gordon Brown (Labour), October, 1996 - May 11, 2004
Charles Kennedy (Liberal Democrats), May 11, 2004 - July 17, 2004
Jack Straw (Labour), July 17, 2004 - April 3, 2009
David Davis (Conservative, April 3, 2009 - present)
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« Reply #1535 on: December 03, 2014, 10:40:38 AM »

41. George H.W. Bush: 1989-1993
42. Bill Clinton: 1993-2001
43. Jeb Bush: 2001-2009
44. Hillary Clinton: 2009-2013
45. Mitt Romney: 2013-2021
46. Cory Booker: 2021-2029
47. George P. Bush: 2029-2037
48. Joseph P. Kennedy: 2037-2045
49. Mia Love: 2045-2049
50. Chelsea Clinton: 2049-2057

Defeated Tickets:
'92: Bush, Peort
'96: Dole, Perot
'00: Gore
'04: Edwards
'08: McCain
'12: Clinton
'16: Feingold
'20: Pawlenty
'24: Rubio
'28: Newsom
'32: Newsom
'36: Ryan
'40: Gardner
'44: Gillibrand
'48: Love
'52: Republican
'56: Republican
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« Reply #1536 on: December 06, 2014, 10:46:59 PM »

Presidents of the United States
Ronald Reagan 1981-1989
George H.W. Bush 1989-1993

Bill Clinton 1993-2001
George W. Bush 2001-2009
Orenthal J. Simpson 2009-present


Governors of California
George Deukmajian 1983-1991
Pete Wilson 1991-1999

Gray Davis 1999-2003
Orenthal J. Simpson 2003-2009
John Garamendi 2009-2011

Meg Whitman 2011-present

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« Reply #1537 on: December 08, 2014, 11:07:57 PM »
« Edited: December 10, 2014, 12:12:49 AM by #Ready4Nixon »

Clintonian Internationalism

42. William Jefferson Clinton (D-AR)/Albert A. Gore, Jr. (D-TN) January 20th, 1993-January 20th, 2001
Presided over a first term of domestic reforms and a second term marked by the advent of a "Global War on Terror" triggered by chaos in the Baltics and Middle East.
43. John S. McCain, III (R-AZ)/Robert C. Smith (R-NH) January 20th, 2001-September 11th, 2003
Elected on a "Return to Normalcy" in the wake of Clinton's police actions in the East and the resulting domestic turmoil. Suffered fatal heart attack in 2003.
44. Robert C. Smith (R-NH)/vacant, Colin Powell (R-PA) September 11th, 2003-January 20th, 2009
Presided over roaring economy, raised tariffs, limited immigration, and a retreat from abroad. Retired after first full term.
45. Willard M. Romney (R-UT)/Addison M. McConnell (R-KY) January 20th, 2009-January 20th, 2013
McCain and Smith's Commerce Secretary, administration saw the beginning of the "Great Recession".
46. Andrew Cuomo (D-NY)/James Webb (D-VA) January 20th, 2013-Present
Elected on the promise of a "New Deal" for the American people. Ironically seen by some as running to Romney's right in 2012.


The Rocky Pulpit
34. Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/Earl Warren (R-CA) January 20th, 1949-January 20th, 1953
35. Harry S. Truman (D-MO)/Adlai E. Stevenson, II (D-IL) January 20th, 1953-January 20th, 1957
36. John W. Bricker (R-OH)/Prescott Bush (R-CT), Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) January 20th, 1957-April 19th, 1963
37. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/vacant, Homer E. Capehart (R-IN) April 19th, 1961-January 20th, 1969
38. Robert Taft, Jr. (R-OH)/William E. Miller (R-NY) January 20th, 1969-January 20th, 1973

39. John W. King (D-NH)/Birch Bayh (D-IN) January 20th, 1973-January 20th, 1981
40. John Ashbrook (R-OH)/Edward J. King (R-MA) January 20th, 1981-April 24th, 1982
41. Edward J. King (R-MA)/vacant, George H.W. Bush (R-TX) April 24th, 1982-January 20th, 1989
42. Malcolm Baldridge, Jr. (R-CT)/Robert S. Dole (R-KS) January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1993

43. John D. "Jay" Rockefeller IV (D-WV)/Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) January 20th, 1993-January 20th, 2001
44. Paul Wellstone (D-MN)/Jeremiah W. "Jay" Nixon (D-MO) January 20th, 2001-October 25th, 2005
45. Jeremiah W. "Jay" Nixon (D-MO)/vacant, Thomas Daschle (D-SD) October 25th, 2005-January 20th, 2013

46. David Petraeus (R-NY)/Rafael Edward "Ted" Cruz (R-TX) January 20th, 2013-Present

Losing Tickets
1948: Harry S. Truman (D-MO)/Alben Barkley (D-KY)
1952: President Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/Earl Warren (R-CA), Henry Wallace (P-IA)/Estes Kefauver (P-TN)
1956: Albert Gore, Sr. (D-TN)/John F. Kennedy (D-MA)
1960: Albert Gore, Sr. (D-TN)/Adlai E. Stevenson, II (D-IL)
1964: Frank D. O'Connor (D-NY)/Robert Byrd (D-WV)
1968: Albert Gore, Sr. (D-TN)/Vance Hartke (D-IN)
1972: Nelson Rockefeller (I-NY)/Pete McCloskey (I-CA), Robert Taft, Jr. (R-OH)/William C. Miller (R-IN), Eugene McCarthy (P-MN)/Ralph Nader (P-CT)
1976: Governor Malcolm Wilson (R-NY)/Otis R. Bowen (R-IN)
1980: John J. Gilligan (D-OH)/John D. Rockefeller IV (D-WV)
1984: John B. Connally (D-TX)/Albert Gore, Jr. (D-TN), John B. Anderson (I-IL)/George S. McGovern (I-SD)
1988: Edward M. Kennedy (D-MA)/Ernest Hollings (D-SC)
1992: Malcolm Baldridge, Jr. (R-CT)/Robert Dole (R-KS)
1996: William P. Graves (R-KS)/Steven Forbes (R-NY)
2000: Michael Bloomberg (R-NY)/Gordon Smith (R-OR)
2004: George Pataki (R-NY)/John Kasich (R-OH)
2008: George Pataki (R-NY)/Peter Wilson (R-CA)
2012: Barack H. Obama, Jr. (D-IL)/Joseph R. Biden (D-DE)
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« Reply #1538 on: December 09, 2014, 06:05:55 PM »

It took me a while to recognize the parallel in the latter. Tongue
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« Reply #1539 on: December 10, 2014, 12:15:07 AM »

It took me a while to recognize the parallel in the latter. Tongue

I was too lazy to explain it as I did with "Clintonian Internationalism". Tongue I thought of the second while writing the first.
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« Reply #1540 on: December 10, 2014, 07:23:17 PM »

George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 1989-1993
Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Al Gore (D-TN) 1993-2001
Jeb Bush (R-FL)/John McCain (R-AZ) 2001-2009
Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Evan Bayh (D-IN) 2009-2017
George W. Bush (R-TX)/Tim Scott (R-SC) 2017-2021
Barack Obama (D-IL)/Maggie Hassan (D-NH) 2021-2029
Rand Paul (R-KY)/Larry Hogan (R-MD) 2029-2037 (first time since Hoover that a Republican ticket wins without a Bush or a Nixon on the ticket)
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« Reply #1541 on: December 13, 2014, 12:31:06 PM »

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33. Harry Truman: 1945-1953
34. Dwight Eisenhower: 1953-1957
35. Thomas Dewey: 1957-1961
36. John F. Kennedy: 1961-1963
37. Lyndon Johnson: 1963-1969
38. Robert F. Kennedy: 1969-1973
39. Ronald Reagan: 1973-1977
40. Gerald Ford: 1977-1981
41. Jimmy Carter: 1981-1985
42. George H.W. Bush: 1985-1989
43. Bill Clinton: 1989-1993
44. Mario Cuomo: 1993-1997
45. Colin Powell: 1997-2001
46. George W. Bush: 2001-2005
47. John McCain: 2005-2009
48. Hillary Clinton: 2009-2013
49. Jeb Bush: 2013-2017
50. Mitt Romney: 2017-2021
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« Reply #1542 on: December 15, 2014, 03:54:52 PM »

1896:William McKinley (Republican-Ohio)
1900:William McKinley (Republican-Ohio)
1904:Eugene V. Debs (Socialist-Indiana) (1)
1908:William Howard Taft (Republican-Missouri)
1912:Theodore Roosevelt (American-New York) (2)
1916:Theodore Roosevelt (American-New York
1920:Henry Ford (American-New York) (3)
1924:Calvin Coolidge (Republican-Massachusetts) (4)
1928:Herbert Hoover (Republican-Iowa)
1932:Huey Long (Socialist-Louisiana) (5)
1936:Huey Long (Socialist-Louisiana)
1940:Huey Long (Socialist-Louisiana)
1940-1944:Upton Sinclair (Socialist-California)
1944:George S. Patton (American-California)
1948:George S. Patton (American-California)
1952:George S. Patton (American-California)
1956:Robert Taft (Republican-Ohio) (6)
1956-1960:Russell Kirk  (Republican-Minnesota)
1960:Robert Taft Jr (Republican-Minnesota)
1964:George C. Wallace (Socialist-Alabama) (7)
1968:Evrett Dirksen (Republican-Illinois) (Cool
1972:Richard Nixon (Socialist-California) (9)
1976:Richard Nixon (Socialist-California)
1980:John Wayne (American-California) (10)
1984:Ted Kennedy (Communist-Massachusetts) (11)
1988:Jack Kemp (Republican-New York) (12)
1992:Jack Kemp (Republican-New York) (13)
1996:Bob Dole (Republican-Kansas)
2000:George Bush (Republican-Texas) (14)
2004:George Bush (Republican-Texas)
2008:Paul Wellstone (Socialist-Minnesota) (15)
2012:Paul Wellstone (Socialist-Minnesota)

1=Socialist Eugene V. Debs wins in a upset election. Debs is able to implant much of his progressive agenda, however he is voted out of office in 1908 with the Conservative Howard Taft defeating him.

2=Roosevelt is defeated for the Republican nomination by Taft, and enraged forms the American Party. The party advocates immigration restrictions, protectionism, nationalization of certain industry, and single payer universal healthcare (something Debs was unable to enact). Roosevelt defeats Democrat William Jennings Bryan, Socialist Eugene Debs, and incumbent President Taft.

3=Roosevelt enters WW1 early, and jails many of his Socialist opposition (with most Socialists opposing the war, however some such as California Upton Sinclair did support the war). The American party under Roosevelt passes the immigration act of 1914 restricting immigration, increases tariffs, raises the income tax, and enacts single payer healthcare. Roosevelt attempts to combat segregation in the South, with Republicans and Socialists supporting his actions but Democrats opposing. Roosevelt is highly unpopular after WW1, however the American Party is able to win re-election nominating Isolationist and businessman Henry Ford who campaigns against the League of Nations proposal proposed by Senator Woodrow Wilson.

4=Ford loses re-election to Massachusetts Governor Calvin Coolidge. Coolidge runs on a platform advocating fiscal conservatism, smaller government, less taxes, less regulation, and weakining labor unions. However, Coolidge strongly supports civil rights and passes many civil rights reforms along with supporting some aid to farmers and increasing pensions.

5=With the depression breaking out, Socialist Huey Long defeats the Conservative Hoover. Long runs on a platform of "Share our Wealth" advocating mass wealth-re distribution. However, Long is highly anti communist and takes the Socialists away from much of their traditional policies. Because of this, the Communist party a radical marxist party emerges gaining the support of Radical socialists unhappy with the parties leadership. Long dies in 1940, upon winning his third term, and his Vice President longtime Socialist Upton Sinclair takes power.

6=Sinclair is defeated in re-election by George S. Patton of the American Party. The American Party had initially advocated the progressive economic views of Theodore Roosevelt, however Patton took  the party down a new path advocating fiscal conservatism and free markets attempting to overtake the Republicans as the party of the right. Patton runs on a highly nationalist anti-communist platform, defeating Republican Robert Taft (Taft runs on a libertarian isolationist platform, opposing the cold war). Patton cuts taxes, increases military spending, and works to combat communism abroad. However, many on the right are unhappy with Pattons support for civil rights and more moderate economic platform, and General Douglas MacArthur challenges Patton from the Right running under the American Nationalist Line. The Democrats attempt to remain a force, by branding themselfs as a socially conservative alternative to the Socialists for White Southerners.

7=Following Pattons unpopular intervention in Korea, Americans desire for a policy of non-intervention and elect longtime Conservative Robert Taft of Ohio. Taft, upon election dies in office resulting in his vice president conservative theorist Minnesota Senator Russell Kirk taking power. Kirk advocates isolationism in contrast to the interventionist Republicans (and now Socialists) and withdraws from Korea. Kirk privatizes many state run industries, and reduces the top income tax rate from 60% (reduced from 90% to 60% under Patton) and cuts taxes for the middle and lower class.

8=Kirks non-interventionist policy has become increasingly unpopular with Americans, who desire for a stronger stance against Communism. The American Party runs a hardcore segregationist campaign advocating fiscal conservatism nominating Virginia Senator Harry F. Byrd. Shenanigans occur at the Socialist convention, as several left wing candidates attempt to win the nomination such as South Dakota Senator George McGovern, Minnesota Senator Eugene McCarthy, Minnesota Senator Hubert Humphrey, Oregon Senator Wayne Morse, and California Governor Pat Brown. Because of this, long time segregationist George C. Wallace is able to win the parties nomination. Wallace strongly opposes the 1962 civil rights act pushed through by Kirk, and runs on a platform strongly supporting segregation. On economic matters, Wallace calls for increased funding for pensions and schools along with increasing tax rates on the top rich and accuses the administrations of Kirk and Patton of "bleeding the little man dry". Wayne Morse launched a third party campaign, running on the Democratic Left line (a line formed by Socialists enraged at Wallaces victory) and the Communists nominate popular Black Congressmen from New York Malcolm X. Wallace manages to win the presidency, as both the right and left split votes.

8=Wallace, running a strongly anti-communist platform enters America into Vietnam in order to combat North Vietnamese Communist rebels. Wallace also blocks all further civil rights legislation, and attempts unsuccessfully to repeal the civil rights and voting acts of 1962. The Communists nominate former Socialist George McGovern, and the Socialists with Wallace in control of the party nominate Hubert Humphrey on the Democratic Left line. The American Party nominates Hard-line segregationist George Smathers. Seeing their chance for victory, Republicans nominate Senate majority leader Everett Dirksen. Dirksen runs on a platform of economic conservatism and anti communism (along with supporting the conflict in Vietnam) however supporting increased civil rights laws. Dirksen is seen by many Americans as the compromise candidate between the leftist George McGovern, the right wing Smathers, and the segregationist Wallace.

9=Dirksen signs into law the voting rights act of 1970 banning the poll tax and other voting discrimination laws. However, the War in Vietnam becomes increasingly unpopular and Dirksen is voted out of office by Socialist California Senator Richard Nixon.

10=Nixon takes the Socialists on a new course, advocating what he calls "the new Socialist majority" and governing from the center away from both the left wing communists and the right wing American party/Republicans. Nixon leaves domestic matters to his vice president Hubert Humphrey, as Humphrey repeals Pattons right to work legislation and on goes upon a progressive domestic policy (such as raising the top income tax rate). Nixons main concern, however was foreign policy as he pursued a strongly anti communist one. Nixon was elected to his second term in 1976, however just two years later was shot and killed by new left activists.

11=With the country full of rage over Nixons death, and President Hubert Humphrey seemingly offering no answers, California Governor and actor John Wayne was elected president on the American party line. Wayne advocated a hard-line against communism, law and order policies, and tax cuts. However, once elected Wayne proved to be a ineffective leader. The Libertarian party was formed by several notable Isolationist Republicans (such as economist Murray Rothbard) as the Republicans had embraced internationalism and foreign intervention strongly and showed this by nominating California Senator Ronald Reagan.

12=Wayne proved to be a highly ineffective leader, and in 1984 lost in a election which would go down in the history books. Communist senator from Massachusetts Ted Kennedy, won the election running a campaign calling for higher taxes on the wealthy, nationalization of industry, co-operatives, and an end to the cold war. Kennedys pro-soviet stance angered many voters, and in 1988 he was thrown out of office for Republican Jack Kemp. Kemp privatized many state industries, reduced taxes across the board massively, and increased military spending. However, Kemp supported a negative income tax and did not advocate cuts to the welfare state or right to work laws making him popular across the nation. The Republicans would rule until 2008, when Socialist Paul Wellstone took the office running a campaign against what he called "the Republicans radical right wing neo-liberal agenda which has isolated and harmed the working people of this great nation".
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« Reply #1543 on: December 15, 2014, 04:03:43 PM »

What if Ford wins in 1976?.

1976:Gerald Ford (Republican-Michigan)
1980:Ted Kennedy (Democrat-Massachusetts)
1984:Ted Kennedy (Democrat-Massachusetts)
1988:Robert Byrd (Democrat-West Virginia)
1992:Jack Kemp (Republican-New York)
1996:Jack Kemp (Republican-New York)
2000:Al Gore (Democrat-Tennessee)
2004:Al Gore (Democrat-Tennessee)
2008:Colin Powell (Republican-New York)
2012:Colin Powell (Republican-New York)

What if Perot wins?.

1992:Ross Perot (Independent-Texas)
1996:Ross Perot (Reform-Texas)
2000:Sam Nunn (Democrat-Georgia)
2004:Sam Nunn (Democrat-Georgia)
2008:George Bush (Republican-Texas)
2012:George Bush (Republican-Texas)

Unlike our timeline, Nunn engages in the Iraq war and Bush runs as a anti war candidate.
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« Reply #1544 on: December 16, 2014, 11:47:33 AM »

32. John Nance Garner (D-TX): 1933-1937
33. Alf Landon (R-KS): 1937-1945
34. Prentice Cooper (D-TN): 1945-1949
35. Douglas MacArthur (R-NY): 1949-1953
36. Adlai Stevenson (D-IL): 1953-1961
37. Stuart Symington (D-MO): 1961-1965
38. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ): 1965-1973
39. John Ashbrook (R-OH): 1973-1981
40. John Connally (D-TX): 1981-1983*
41. John Kennedy (D-MA): 1983-1993
42. William "Bill" Maloney (Labor-IN): 1993-2001
43. Robert Zamora (Labor-TX): 2001-2002**
44. Claudia Long (Labor-OH): 2002-2005
45. John Herrick (Democratic-Republican-IL): 2005-2013
46. Jacquelyn Humphrey (Democratic-Republican-IN): 2013-2021

*Assassinated.
**Died in office.
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« Reply #1545 on: December 17, 2014, 12:11:07 AM »

William J. Clinton (D-AR) 1993 - 2001
John E. "Jeb" Bush (R-FL) 2001 - 2009
Russel D. "Russ" Feingold (D-WI) 2009 - 2013
Christopher J. Christie (R-NJ): 2013 - 2017
Hillary R. Clinton (D-NY): 2017 - ??

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« Reply #1546 on: December 19, 2014, 12:49:35 AM »

37. Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican-New York)/Spiro Theodore Agnew (Republican-Maryland) January 20th, 1969-January 20th, 1973
38. Robert Francis Kennedy (Democrat-New York)/Albert Preston Brewer (Democrat-Alabama) January 20th, 1973-October 9th, 1978
39. Albert Preston Brewer (Democrat-Alabama)/vacant, Daniel Ken Inouye (Democrat-Hawaii) October 9th, 1978-January 20th, 1985
40. Alexander Linwood Holton, Jr. (Republican-Virginia)/Alfonse Marcello D'Amoto (Republican-New York) January 20th, 1985-January 20th, 1993
41. Lawrence Douglas Wilder (Democrat-Virginia)/Leo Joseph Ryan, Jr. (Democrat-California) January 20th, 1993-January 20th, 2001
42. Donald Kenneth Sundquist (Republican-Tennessee)/Lisa Ann Murkowski (Republican-Alaska) January 20th, 2001-January 20th, 2009
43. Lisa Ann Murkowski (Republican-Alaska)/John S. McCain, III (Republican-Arizona) January 20th, 2009-January 20th, 2013

44. Timothy Michael Kaine (Democrat-Virginia)/Russell Dana Feingold (Democrat-Wisconsin) January 20th, 2013-Present
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« Reply #1547 on: December 23, 2014, 06:44:21 PM »

Ulysses Grant1 1869-1877
Rutherford Hayes2 1877-1881
James Garfield3 1881
Chester Arthur4 1881-1885

Grover Cleveland5 1885-1889; 1893-1897
Benjamin Harrison6 1889-1893

1 Popular general from most recent major conflict
2 Narrowly elected with accusations of fraud from opponents
3 Assassinated
4 Politically-connected Vice-President implementing goals of predecessor
5 The Comeback Kid
6 Spendthrift Republican leaving his successor to deal with economic crisis
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« Reply #1548 on: December 24, 2014, 08:29:20 AM »

Ulysses Grant1 1869-1877
Rutherford Hayes2 1877-1881
James Garfield3 1881
Chester Arthur4 1881-1885

Grover Cleveland5 1885-1889; 1893-1897
Benjamin Harrison6 1889-1893

1 Popular general from most recent major conflict
2 Narrowly elected with accusations of fraud from opponents
3 Assassinated
4 Politically-connected Vice-President implementing goals of predecessor
5 The Comeback Kid
6 Spendthrift Republican leaving his successor to deal with economic crisis

Dude, those were OTL Presidents.
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« Reply #1549 on: December 24, 2014, 10:18:19 AM »

Ulysses Grant1 1869-1877
Rutherford Hayes2 1877-1881
James Garfield3 1881
Chester Arthur4 1881-1885

Grover Cleveland5 1885-1889; 1893-1897
Benjamin Harrison6 1889-1893

1 Popular general from most recent major conflict
2 Narrowly elected with accusations of fraud from opponents
3 Assassinated
4 Politically-connected Vice-President implementing goals of predecessor
5 The Comeback Kid
6 Spendthrift Republican leaving his successor to deal with economic crisis

Dude, those were OTL Presidents.

I was merely positing a hypothetical scenario where 1869-1897 Presidents mirrored 1953-1981 Presidents.
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