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« Reply #1950 on: May 25, 2016, 11:28:39 AM »

New York State of Mind:
41. George H.W. Bush: 1989-1997
42. Paul Tsongas: 1997-1998
43. Geraldine Ferraro: 1998-2005
44. Rudolph Giuliani: 2005-2013
45. Andrew Cuomo: 2013-2017
46. Donald Trump: 2017 - Present

Defeated Tickets:
1988: Dukakis/Bentsen: SAIRL
1992: Brown/Kerrery: 250-288 (48.1% - 50.2%)
1996: Quayle/Kemp: 248-290 (2.0% - 46.4% - 50.1%)
2000: McCain/Bush: 259-279 (48.5% - 50.8%)
2004: Wellstone/Gore: 150-388 (44.1% - 54.4%)
2008: Powell/Nunn: 155-383 (44.9% - 53.8%)
2012: Gingrich/Fallin: 258-280 (49.4% - 49.3%)
2016: Cuomo/Sink: 119-419 (42.0%) - 56.5%)
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« Reply #1951 on: May 25, 2016, 04:39:58 PM »



Direct Link: http://i.imgur.com/UspTI7B.jpg

I made this.

Edit: Should have cropped. Oh well.
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« Reply #1952 on: May 25, 2016, 05:40:00 PM »

The link does not work either. Can you re-post?
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« Reply #1953 on: May 26, 2016, 10:00:10 AM »

The link does not work either. Can you re-post?

Link works. Try again. http://i.imgur.com/UspTI7B.jpg
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« Reply #1954 on: May 26, 2016, 11:36:49 AM »

Was there supposed to be a wikibox of the 2020 election? If so, I don't see it.
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« Reply #1955 on: May 27, 2016, 10:45:48 AM »

Was there supposed to be a wikibox of the 2020 election? If so, I don't see it.

There was, apparently it cut off. Will try to repost later.
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« Reply #1956 on: May 27, 2016, 01:35:02 PM »

I believe that this forum is not the best place to post wikipedia info boxes. Just post the electoral vote map.
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« Reply #1957 on: May 27, 2016, 02:20:52 PM »

I believe that this forum is not the best place to post wikipedia info boxes. Just post the electoral vote map.

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« Reply #1958 on: May 27, 2016, 02:24:22 PM »

There's also a thread for this thing.
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« Reply #1959 on: May 28, 2016, 07:59:52 AM »

37. Nelson A. Rockefeller (R-NY)/John G. Tower (R-TX) 1965-1972
38. John G. Tower (R-TX)/vacant, Spiro T. Agnew (R-MD) 1972-1977

39. Eugene McCarthy (D-MN)/James E. Carter (D-GA) 1977-1981
40. James E. Carter (D-GA)/vacant, Gary Hart (D-CO) 1981-1985

41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/J. Danforth Quayle (R-IN) 1985-1993
42. Edmund "Jerry" Brown, Jr. (D-CA)/Paul E. Tsongas (D-MA), William J. Bradley (D-NJ) 1993-2001
43. George W. Bush (R-TX)/Rudolph W. Giuliani (R-NY) 2001-2006
44. Rudolph W. Giuliani (R-NY)/vacant, John Boehner (R-OH) 2006-2013

45. Barack H. Obama, Jr. (D-IL)/Larry Pressler (D-SD) 2013-2021
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« Reply #1960 on: May 29, 2016, 10:00:52 AM »

44. John F. Kerry: 2005-2009^
45. John McCain: 2009-2013*
46. Hillary Clinton: 2013-2017^
47. John Ellis Bush: 2017-2025

*Declined to run for Reelection
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« Reply #1961 on: May 29, 2016, 02:54:53 PM »

38. Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Nelson Rockfeller (R-NY), Bob Dole (R-KS) - 1974-1981
39. Edwin Edwards (D-LA)/Jerry Brown (D-CA) - 1981-19861
40. Jerry Brown (D-CA)/Gary Hart (D-CO) - 1986-19892
41. George Deukmejian (R-CA)/John Danforth (R-MO) - 1989-1997
42. John Danforth (R-MO)/Dick Cheney (R-WY), Glenn Hubbard (R-FL) - 1997-20013
43. Robert Kerrey (D-NE)/Dave McCrudy (D-OK) - 2001-20094
44. Mark Sanford (R-SC)/Sarah Palin (R-AK), Jon Huntsman (R-UT) - 2009-20135
45. Barack Obama (D-IL)/Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) - 2013-Current

1 - Edwin Edwards defeated Howard Baker in a landslide in 1980 after many Americans grew way too frustrated with the lack of progress in the Ford administration. Edwards faced a lot of obstacles in his administration, including corruption scandals both from his time in Louisiana governance and his time in the White House, but Edwards was wildly popular with the American public and was a very charismatic figure. He also got through signature Government programs like helping Americans with disabilities, expanding healthcare, and expanding affirmative action to the poor. Despite the FBI investigating his administration, he beat back reformist Republican George H.W. Bush in 1984 in a walk. Unfortunately for Edwards, he would have to plead guilty to racketeering in July of 1986 and resign from office.

2 - After Edwards resigned, his Vice President Jerry Brown rose to the Presidency. Brown, in his short time in office, enacted massive ethics reform in order to combat the image of President Edwards. Brown declined running in 1988 due to the Presidents toxic image, and flew the party flag around Gary Hart, whose misadventures would not be revealed until after he loses the Presidential election to George Deukmejian.

3 - Duekmejian's Presidency would go rather smoothly, as the President enacted a strongly conservative agenda to a populace that grew tired of liberal corruption. Deukmejian was easily re-elected over a ticket of Tom Harkin/Bob Kerrey. And though Danforth faced a tough match-up against Bill Clinton, Danforth would prevail after Clinton's likeness to Edwards sunk him to a narrow loss. Danforth's administration was a mess, as the moral President faced off against his far right and corrupt counterparts. Danforth felt he was losing control of his administration and demanded that Vice President Dick Cheney resigned. Cheney would resign near the end of his term, but actively pushed for someone to challenge President Danforth. Though Danforth would survive a conservative challenge, he was significantly damaged enough to lose in a narrow three-way race to Nebraska Senator and Democratic Moderate Bob Kerrey, who pledged to re-invent the Democrats as the party of ethical and fiscal responsibility.

4 - Kerrey's re-imagining of the Democratic Party into a centrist outfit proved popular with the American public, as Kerrey won a solid re-election bid against Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott. Kerrey's foreign adventurism, however, made him incredibly unpopular in the second term, and also added to a terrible economy which would sink his Vice President Dave McCrudy's bid for the office, losing to staunch conservative Mark Sanford.

5 - President Sanford proved to be a disaster. With the economy falling down, Sanford proposed a strict austerity diet for America, and when unemployment hit 10%, Democrats took over both chambers of the Government. Vice President Palin wold be forced to resign after a series of scandals plagued her from her Alaska days, and Democrats forced Sanford to go with the most moderate choice, Jon Huntsman. Sanford's divisive management style combined with cheating on his wife allowed Senator Barack Obama to win a landslide against the incumbent President.
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« Reply #1962 on: June 09, 2016, 03:30:36 PM »

1. George Washington (1789-1797)
2. Thomas Jefferson (1797-1809)
3. Charles C. Pinkney (1809-1817)
4. James Monroe (1817-1825)
5. Andrew Jackson (1825-1837)*
6. William Harrison (1837-1841)*, **
7. Francis Granger (1841-1845)
8. Henry Clay (1845-1853)
9. Winfield Scott (1853-1861)
10. Abraham Lincoln (1861-1865)**
11. Andrew Johnson (1865-1869)
12. Ulysses Grant (1869-1873)
13. Thomas Hendricks (1873-1877)
14. Samuel Tilden (1877-1881)
15. James Garfield (1881)**
16. Chester Arthur (1881-1885)
17. Grover Cleveland (1885-1897)***
18. William Bryan (1897-1901)*
19. Adlai Stevenson I (1901-1905)
20. Theodore Roosevelt (1905-1917)****
21. Woodrow Wilson (1917-1921)
22. Warren Harding (1921-1923)**
23. Calvin Coolidge (1923-1925)
24. John W. Davis (1925-1929)
25. Herbert Hoover (1929-1933)
26. Franklin Roosevelt (1933-1941)
27. Wendell Willkie (1941-1944)**
28. Thomas Dewey (1944-1945)*****
29. Franklin Roosevelt (1945)**
30. Harry Truman (1945-1953)
31. Dwight Eisenhower (1953-1961)
32. John Kennedy (1961-1963)**
33. Lyndon Johnson (1963-1969)
34. Richard Nixon (1969-1973)
35. George McGovern (1973-1981)
36. Ronald Reagan (1981-1989)
37. George Bush (1989-1997)
38. Bill Clinton (1997-2005)
39. John Kerry (2005-2013)
40. Mitt Romney (2013-)
*Was the nominee later on, so I went with him
**Died in office
***Tied, but was the winner, so I went with him
****Bryan was assassinated and there's no reason why Teddy wouldn't run for a second term
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« Reply #1963 on: June 09, 2016, 06:31:29 PM »

No Third Term for FDR
1933-1941: Governor Franklin Roosevelt/Speaker John Nance Garner
1941-1943: Governor Harold Stassen/District Attorney Thomas Dewey*
1943-1945: VP Thomas Dewey/Senator Hiram Johnson**
1945-1953: President Thomas Dewey/Governor Goodwin Knight**
1953-1957: VP Goodwin Knight/Senator Dwight Green***
1957-1961: Senator Coke Stevenson/Senator Stuart Symington****
1961-1969: VP Stuart Symington/Speaker Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr.*****
1969-1977: Governor Nelson Rockefeller/Senator George Christopher[6]
1977-1981: Senator George Smathers/Governor Bob Dole[7]
1981-1983: Speaker Gerald Ford/Former VP George Christopher[8]
1983-1993: VP George Christopher/Secretary of State Howard Baker[9]
1993-2001: Speaker John Kasich/Senatkr John Heinz, III[10]
2001-2004: Governor Howard Dean/Senator Christine Todd Whitman[11]
2004-2009: VP Christine Todd Whitman/Governor Jerry Brown[12]
2009-2017: General David Blankfein/Senate Minority Leader Tim Witth[13]
2017-2021: Former President Christine Todd Whitman/Senator Harold Ford, Jr.[14]

*Assassinated; Stassen gets involved in World War Two immediately following Pearl Harbor. From there, Stassen essentially hands the command over to Major General Dwight Eisenhower and Brigadier General Nathan Twining. These two men find a partner in Secretary of the Navy Theodore Roosevelt, III.
**The Navy Secretary considers his career a stunning success when his own Marines, alongside his brother, Lieutenant Colonel Archibald Roosevelt, who leads an army force, successfully retake Paris from the Seine. His own son, Lieutenant Quentin II, also plays a significant role in seizing Paris from the Nazis. His nephew, Kermit Roosevelt, Jr., becomes the American head of fifth column roles and manages to keep the French resistance well coordinated with the Americans. Besides World War II, Dewey is considered an efficient President. Dewey began the "Dewey Doctrine," which dictates that America can invade fast, install democracy fast, and leave fast. He successfully implements his doctrine with the help of Secretary of State Theodore Roosevelt, III. These two New Yorkers manage to set up democracies in Vietnam, Japan, Korea, China, and the Philippines.
***Retires after one term; President Knight and Vice President Green don't desire the Presidency overly much, but both men are considered to have done an amazing job. Both men are considered caretakers who oversaw Dewey's legacy come to an end. They continue both Dewey's balanced budgets and his foreign policy doctrine.
****Resigns in 1961 after a heart attack; later appointed Chief Justice in 1967 and serves for almost ten years.

Defeated Tickets:
1940: VP John Nance Garner/Senator Alben Barkley
1944: Senator Harry Truman/Governor Henry Wallace
1948: Governor Henry Wallace/Senator Daniel Hoan, Senator J. William Fulbright/Senator Claude Pepper
1952: Former Senator Claude Pepper/Governor Coke Stevenson
1956: Senator Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr./Mayor Hubert Humphrey
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« Reply #1964 on: June 13, 2016, 11:02:09 PM »

1876:



Tilden wins FL

Samuel J. Tilden (D-NY) / Thomas A. Hendricks (D-NY)- 188 EVs, 51.1% PV
Rutherford B. Hayes (R-OH) / William A. Wheeler (R-IN)- 181 EVs, 47.7% PV

2000:



Gore wins NH

Vice-President Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN) / Joseph Lieberman (D-CT)- 270 EVs, 48.5% PV
Governor George W. Bush (R-TX) / Richard B. Cheney (R-WY)- 267 EVs, 47.8% PV
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« Reply #1965 on: June 13, 2016, 11:19:39 PM »

1876:



Tilden wins FL

Samuel J. Tilden (D-NY) / Thomas A. Hendricks (D-NY)- 188 EVs, 51.1% PV
Rutherford B. Hayes (R-OH) / William A. Wheeler (R-IN)- 181 EVs, 47.7% PV

2000:



Gore wins NH

Vice-President Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN) / Joseph Lieberman (D-CT)- 270 EVs, 48.5% PV
Governor George W. Bush (R-TX) / Richard B. Cheney (R-WY)- 267 EVs, 47.8% PV
That's closer to the random maps thread, actually.
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« Reply #1966 on: June 17, 2016, 12:20:26 AM »

Based off a game of President Infinity I played. H.W. Bush declines to run for reelection, Gerald Ford steps in and unites the party and wins against a strong Perot and weak Douglas Wilder.

George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 1989-1993
Fmr. Pres. Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) 1993-2001
Sen. Zell Miller (D-GA)[1]/Gov. Howard Dean (D-VT), Vacant, Sen. Evan Bayh (D-IN) 2001-2009
Sen. Gary Johnson[2] (R-NM)/Sen. Mitt Romney (R-MA) 2009-2017
VP.Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Rep. Mia Love (R-UT) 2017-2021
Gov. Maggie Hassan (D-NH)/Gov. Jay Nixon (D-MO) 2021-2025
Fmr. SoS. Rand Paul (R-KY)/Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) 2025-20??

[1] Zell Miller's presidency looks very similar to OTL Bush, but with a similar act to the ACA passing in 2002. This causes even more debt due to both the wars and expanded medicare. This leads the Republicans to be the anti-war, more libertarian party, in part also due to Ford's more moderate influence, as well as less of a conservative revolution in the 90's. During this time, Howard Dean resigns in protest of the war, and Evan Bayh is appointed to replace him.
[2] After giving the keynote address at the 2004 RNC and running for senate, Gary Johnson is seen as the party's best chance to take the White House, and wins in a landslide against unpopular appointed VP Evan Bayh, after Bayh won a contested and scandalous primary against Fmr. VP Howard Dean.
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« Reply #1967 on: June 21, 2016, 10:51:20 PM »

Give 'Em Hell Harriett!

Sen. Harriett Woods (D-MO)/Sen. Bill Bradley (D-NJ) 1989-1993
Fmr. Gov. Dick Thornburgh (R-PA)/Sen. Dan Quayle (R-IN) 1993-1997
Fmr. Pres. Harriett Woods (D-MO)/Sen. Al Gore (D-TN) 1997-2001
Gov. George Allen (R-VA)/Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) 2001-2009
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« Reply #1968 on: June 22, 2016, 10:21:11 PM »

Alternate Presidents that I'd support in every election with opposing tickets I'd never support:
1984: Pres. Ronald Reagan, R-CA/Vice Pres. George H.W. Bush, R-TX
* Losing Ticket: U.S. Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-MA/U.S. Rep. Patricia Shroeder, D-CO
1988: Former U.S. Sen. Paul Laxalt, R-NV/U.S. Rep. Jack Kemp, R-NY
* Losing Ticket: Rev. Jesse Jackson, D-SC/U.S. Sen. Gary Hart, D-CO
1992: U.S. Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan, D-NY/U.S. Sen. Lloyd Bentsen, D-TX
* Losing Ticket: Former Pres. Advisor Patrick Buchanan, R-VA/U.S. Rep. Robert Dornan, R-CA
1996: Pres. Daniel Patrick Moynihan, D-NY/Vice Pres. Lloyd Bentsen, D-TX
* Losing Ticket: Former Pres. Advisor Patrick Buchanan, R-VA/Former U.S. Ambass. Alan Keyes, R-MD
2000: Gov. George W. Bush, R-TX/Former U.S. Sen. John Danforth, R-MO
* Losing Ticket: U.S. Sen. Paul Wellstone, D-MN/Gov. Howard Dean, D-VT
2004: Pres. George W. Bush, R-TX/Vice Pres. John Danforth, R-MO
* Losing Ticket: Former Gov. Howard Dean, D-VT/U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-OH
2008: U.S. Sen. Joseph Lieberman, D-CT/U.S. Sen. Evan Bayh, R-IN
* Losing Ticket: U.S. Rep. Ronald Paul, R-TX/Former Gov. Gary Johnson, R-NM
2012: Pres. Joseph Lieberman, D-CT/ Vice Pres. Evan Bayh, D-IN
* Losing Ticket: Businessman Herman Cain, R-GA/ U.S. Sen. Scott Brown, R-MA
2016: U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio, R-FL/Gov. Nikki Haley, R-SC: 2017-Current
* Losing Ticket: Bernie Sanders, D-VT/Keith Ellison, D-MN

* In 1992, Pres. Laxalt retires due to sudden health issues; VP Kemp decides to not run and endorses Former VP George Bush, who along with Sen. Bob Dole, wind up losing the GOP Nomination to firebrand paleoconservative Pat Buchanan.


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« Reply #1969 on: June 22, 2016, 11:29:26 PM »

Based off a game of President Infinity I played. H.W. Bush declines to run for reelection, Gerald Ford steps in and unites the party and wins against a strong Perot and weak Douglas Wilder.

George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 1989-1993
Fmr. Pres. Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) 1993-2001
Sen. Zell Miller (D-GA)[1]/Gov. Howard Dean (D-VT), Vacant, Sen. Evan Bayh (D-IN) 2001-2009
Sen. Gary Johnson[2] (R-NM)/Sen. Mitt Romney (R-MA) 2009-2017
VP.Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Rep. Mia Love (R-UT) 2017-2021
Gov. Maggie Hassan (D-NH)/Gov. Jay Nixon (D-MO) 2021-2025
Fmr. SoS. Rand Paul (R-KY)/Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) 2025-20??

[1] Zell Miller's presidency looks very similar to OTL Bush, but with a similar act to the ACA passing in 2002. This causes even more debt due to both the wars and expanded medicare. This leads the Republicans to be the anti-war, more libertarian party, in part also due to Ford's more moderate influence, as well as less of a conservative revolution in the 90's. During this time, Howard Dean resigns in protest of the war, and Evan Bayh is appointed to replace him.
[2] After giving the keynote address at the 2004 RNC and running for senate, Gary Johnson is seen as the party's best chance to take the White House, and wins in a landslide against unpopular appointed VP Evan Bayh, after Bayh won a contested and scandalous primary against Fmr. VP Howard Dean.

Wouldn't Ford be constitutionally barred from seeking re-election at 1996, even if he weren't 83 years old?
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« Reply #1970 on: June 29, 2016, 02:53:58 PM »

Based off a game of President Infinity I played. H.W. Bush declines to run for reelection, Gerald Ford steps in and unites the party and wins against a strong Perot and weak Douglas Wilder.

George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 1989-1993
Fmr. Pres. Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) 1993-2001
Sen. Zell Miller (D-GA)[1]/Gov. Howard Dean (D-VT), Vacant, Sen. Evan Bayh (D-IN) 2001-2009
Sen. Gary Johnson[2] (R-NM)/Sen. Mitt Romney (R-MA) 2009-2017
VP.Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Rep. Mia Love (R-UT) 2017-2021
Gov. Maggie Hassan (D-NH)/Gov. Jay Nixon (D-MO) 2021-2025
Fmr. SoS. Rand Paul (R-KY)/Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) 2025-20??

[1] Zell Miller's presidency looks very similar to OTL Bush, but with a similar act to the ACA passing in 2002. This causes even more debt due to both the wars and expanded medicare. This leads the Republicans to be the anti-war, more libertarian party, in part also due to Ford's more moderate influence, as well as less of a conservative revolution in the 90's. During this time, Howard Dean resigns in protest of the war, and Evan Bayh is appointed to replace him.
[2] After giving the keynote address at the 2004 RNC and running for senate, Gary Johnson is seen as the party's best chance to take the White House, and wins in a landslide against unpopular appointed VP Evan Bayh, after Bayh won a contested and scandalous primary against Fmr. VP Howard Dean.

Wouldn't Ford be constitutionally barred from seeking re-election at 1996, even if he weren't 83 years old?

Depends on if he served less than half of Nixon's second term. Not sure what it actually is.
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« Reply #1971 on: June 29, 2016, 03:59:40 PM »

August 9, 1974 was before January 20, 1975, unfortunately.
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« Reply #1972 on: June 30, 2016, 11:06:52 PM »

Democrats fall to Dixiecrat influence, and the rise of the Labour Party and the Constitution Preservation Party

John Nance Garner (D-TX)/Paul V. McNutt (D-IN) 1941-1945
Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/John Bricker (R-OH) 1945-1953
Franklin Roosevelt Jr. (AL-NY)/Adlai Stevenson (AL-IL) 1953-1957
Estes Kefauver (D-TN)/Frank Lausche (D-OH) 1957-1963
Frank Lausche (D-OH)/None 1963-1965
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Walter Judd (R-MN) 1965-1969
Hubert Humphrey (AL-MN)/Edmund Muskie (AL-ME) 1969-1973
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/John Connally (R-TX) 1973-1975
John Connally (R-TX)/Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY), Bob Dole (R-KS) 1975-1981
Harold Hughes (AL-IA)/Terry Sanford (AL-NC) 1981-1989
Terry Sanford (AL-NC)/Geraldine Ferraro (AL-NY) 1989-1993
William Weld (R-MA)/Jack Kemp (R-NY) 1993-2001
Joe Lieberman (AL-CT)/John Kerry (AL-MA) 2001-2007*
John Kerry (AL-MA)/Dick Gephardt (AL-MO) 2007-2009
Barack Obama (R-IL)/Dick Lugar (R-IN) 2009-2017
Hillary Rodham Weld (R-NY)/Tim Kaine (R-VA) 2017-2021

Losing Candidates
1940: Robert Taft (R-OH), Henry Wallace (AL-NY)
1944: Harold Ickes (AL-PA), John Nance Garner (D-TX)
1948: Harold Ickes (AL-PA), Richard Russell (D-GA)
1952: Robert Taft (R-OH), Strom Thurmond (D-SC)
1956: Franklin Roosevelt Jr. (AL-NY), John Dulles (R-DC)
1960: Richard Nixon (R-CA), Wayne Morse (AL-OR), Adam Parker (CP-OK)*
1964: Hubert Humphrey (AL-MN), Frank Lausche (D-OH), Bob Shaffle (CP-OR)*
1968: Richard Nixon (R-CA), George Wallace (D-AL), John Ashbrook (CP-OH)
1972: Hubert Humphrey (AL-MN), George Wallace (D-AL), Robert Welch (CP-NC)
1976: Mo Udall (AL-AZ), George Wallace (D-AL), Larry McDonald (CP-GA)
1980: Bob Dole (R-KS), Larry McDonald (CP-GA), Orval Farbus (D-AR)
1984: George H.W. Bush (R-TX), Albert Gore (D-TN), Robert Welch (CP-NC)
1988: George H.W. Bush (R-TX), Evan Mecham (D/CP-AZ)
1992: Terry Sanford (AL-NC), Jim Guy Tucker (D-AR), Ron Paul (CP-TX)
1996: George Mitchell (AL-ME), Ann Richards (D-TX), Pat Buchanan (CP-DC)
2000: Jack Kemp (R-NY), Fob James (D-AL), Pat Buchanan (CP-DC)
2004: Tom Ridge (R-PA), Mike Huckabee (D-AR), Michael Perotuksa (CP-MD)
2008: John Kerry (AL-MA), Haley Barbour (D-MS), Ron Paul (CP-TX)
2012: Evan Bayh (AL-IN), Ron Paul (CP-TX), Haley Barbour (D-MS)
2016: Donald Trump (AL/D-NY), Ted Cruz (CP-TX)

The American world changed when FDR decided to retire at the end of his second term. Henry Wallace, with FDR's tacit endorsement, gained 20% of the vote - very impressive. This began the American Labor Party. Which has now become America's second major party.

It wasn't until after Thomas Dewey's two successful terms as President did the Labor Party have its very first successful election of a President in President Franklin D. Roosevelt Jr.. FDR JR. was far from his father, and he proved not very hard working as President, and was booted out by America's next to last Democratic President in Estes Kefauver. Kefauver's administration was troubled with problems, but managed continually narrow victories over the competition until Kefauvers death in 1963. Frank Lausche, known as "Frank the fence", rubbed just about everyone the wrong way, and just about ended the Democratic Party as a non-southern institution.

In 1968, the AL had its second success when it elected Hubert Humphrey President. Humphrey prompted a wide array of social programs, but Former President Nixon successfully portrayed Humphrey as spending this country into debt, and ran him out of office with a coalition of Republicans, and Southern Democrats turned off by George Wallace's outright racist campaign. Despite being given a golden goose in 1976, American Labor lost to President John Connally by nominating Mo Udall, a liberal but dividing figure. It wasn't until the American Labor Party nominated Harold Hughes, Senator of Iowa and a stern but imposing figure, that they got their first two term President.

The Hughes administration was noted for its prosperity, and cruised to re-election over George H.W. Bush (albeit, a slightly smaller margin than in 1980). American Labor even got a third run through with Terry Sanford. But Sanford's age became a factor, and combined with his forgotten promise to lower taxes for the middle class, he finally lost to Republican William Weld.

The American Labor Party spent a lot of time re-thinking its strategy. They had devastating losses under George Mitchell's leadership. They needed a new way to appeal to voters. They settled on a more moderate message, under a more moderate, calmer candidate. Joseph Lieberman promoted a new message for the party. Lieberman scored a surprise victory over Vice President Jack Kemp in the year 2000, and scored a slightly less narrow victory over the uninspiring Tom Ridge.

But Lieberman's administration did not go well - Lieberman was a war hawk, and pledged to go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan. His party tried to stand by but simply could not. After about 5 years, President Lieberman started feeling the burn of being President, and resigned. This left John Kerry in charge. Kerry agreed more with the party's philosphy, but Kerry proved to be in over his head, leading him to be easily defeated by moderate Senator Barack Obama.

Obama had staged an impressive victory over Conservative warrior (in slight contrast to her husbands moderate administration) and former first lady Hillary Rodham Weld. They made a pact that after two terms of Obama, two more terms of Weld would arise. American Labor attempted to counteract the charismatic, telegenic, and well-spoken advocate for Republican values in Obama, but fell short with Indiana Governor Evan Bayh, a fierce advocate for workers but otherwise a moderate presence in the party.

After 8 more years in the whole, the party went a lot more... radical. American Labor always had more radical voices - Ross Perot almost won the parties nomination over Terry Sanford in 1992, and gave George Mitchell a solid run for his money in 1996. But in 2016, many were tired of the same old voices. Former Governor Katrina Swett of New Hampshire was considered the frontrunner, but she was dealt with accusations of being a Lieberman-ite - which she didn't really address head on. It took Businessman Donald Trump, a Former Republican, Democrat, CP, all of the above, the knock her out. And boy did he - Trump not only won the Labor nomination, but also the Democratic nomination, opening up the vast wealth of the south.

But Trump proved to be very provacative on the campaign trail. While many American Laborites, like Richard Trumka, stood by the nominee proudly, others, like Swett, Chris Van Hollen, John Kerry, Joe Lieberman, and others, backed away from Trump, some even backing the conservative but manageable Hillary Weld.
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« Reply #1973 on: July 01, 2016, 01:58:38 PM »
« Edited: July 07, 2016, 07:21:13 PM by sentinel »

Presidents of the United States

19. Samuel J. Tilden, Democratic, New York, 1877 -1881

20. James G. Blaine, Republican, Maine, 1881 - 1885

21. Allen G. Thurmond, Democratic, Ohio, 1885 - 1889

22. Thomas Bayard, Democratic, Delaware, 1889 - 1897

23. William McKinley, Republican, Ohio - 1897 - 1901

24. John Davis Long, Republican, Massachusetts, 1901 - 1909

25. Joseph W. Folk, Democratic, Missouri - 1909 - 1917

26. Thomas R. Marshall, Democratic, Indiana - 1917 -1925

27. Calvin Coolidge, Republican, Massachusetts, 1925 - 1933

28. William Borah, Republican, Idaho, 1933 - 1933

29. Newton D. Baker, Democratic, Ohio, 1933 - 1937

30. Joseph Taylor Robinson, Democratic, New York, 1933 - 1937

31. Cordell Hull, Democratic, Tennessee, 1937 - 1941

32. Theodore Roosevelt, Jr., Republican, New York, 1941 - 1944

33. Arthur H. Vandenberg, Republican, Michigan, 1944 - 1949

34. Thomas Dewey, Republican, New York, 1949 - 1961

35. Hubert Humphrey, Democratic, Minnesota, 1961 - 1969

36. W. Averell Harriman, Democratic, New York, 1969 - 1972

37. Lyndon B. Johnson, Democratic, Texas, 1972 - 1973

38. George McGovern, Democratic, South Dakota, 1973 - 1977

39. Richard Schweiker, Republican, Pennsylvania, 1977 - 1981

40. Frank Church, Democratic, Idaho, 1981 - 1984

41. John Glenn, Democratic, Ohio, 1984 - 1989

42. Pierre S. du Pont, Republican, Delaware, 1989 - 1993

43. John Glenn, Democratic, Ohio, 1993 - 1997

44. James A. Baker Republican, Tennessee, 1997 - 2005

45. Tom Daschle, Democratic, South Dakota, 2005 - 2013

46. Kirsten Gillibrand, Democratic, New York, 2013 - Present

Vice Presidents of the United States

19. Thomas A. Hendricks, Democratic, Ohio, 1877 - 1881

20. Chester A. Arthur, Republican, New York, 1881 - 1885

21. Thomas Bayard, Democratic, Delaware, 1881 - 1885

22. Samuel J. Randall, Democratic, Pennsylvania, 1885 - 1890

Vacant, 1890 - 1893

23. Horace Boies, Democratic, Iowa - 1893 - 1897

24. John Davis Long, Republican, Massachusetts, 1897 - 1901

Vacant, 1901 - 1905

25. Robert John Wynne, Republican, New York, 1905 - 1909

26. John W. Kern, Democratic, Indiana, 1909 - 1917

27. Woodrow Wilson, Democratic, New Jersey, 1917 - 1924

Vacant, 1924-1925

28. William E. Borah, Democratic, Idaho, 1924 - 1933

Vacant, 1933 - 1933

29. Joseph Taylor Robinson, Democratic, New York, 1933 - 1937

Vacant, 1937 - 1941 A constitutional amendment allowing for VP appointment is passed during this time

30. James F. Byrnes, Democratic, South Carolina, 1939 - 1941

31. Arthur H. Vandenberg, Republican, Michigan 1941 - 1944

Vacant, 1944 - 1944

32. Thomas E. Dewey, Republican, New York, 1944 - 1949

33. Earl Warren, Republican, California, 1949 - 1953

Vacant, 1953 - 1953

34. Robert A. Taft, Republican, Ohio, 1953 - 1953

Vacant, 1953 - 1954

35. Dwight D. Eisenhower, Republican, Kansas, 1954 - 1961

36. W. Averell Harriman, Democratic, New York, 1961 - 1969

37. Lyndon Baines Johnson, Democratic, Texas, 1969 - 1972

Vacant, 1972 - 1972

38. Abraham A. Ribicoff, Democratic, Connecticut, 1972 - 1977

39. Kit Bond, Republican, Missouri, 1977 - 1981

40. John Glen, Democratic, Ohio, 1981 - 1984

Vacant, 1984 - 1985

41. Martha Layne Collins, Democratic, Kentucky, 1985 - 1989

42. James Baker, Republican, Tennessee, 1989 - 1993

43. Michael S. Dukakis, Democratic, Massachusetts, 1993 - 1997

44. Tommy Thompson, Republican, Wisconsin, 1997 - 2005

45. William J. Clinton, Democratic, Arkansas, 2005 - 2013

46. Wesley Clark, Democratic, Oklahoma, 2013 - Present

Losing Tickets

1876 - Republican - Rutherford B. Hayes of Ohio / William Wheeler of New York

1880 - Democratic - Samuel J. Tilden of New York / Thomas A. Hendricks of Ohio

1884 - Republican - James G. Blaine of Maine / Chester A. Arthur of New York

1888 - Republican - Chester A. Arthur of New York / Walter Q. Gresham of Indiana

1892 - Republican - George F. Edmunds of Vermont / Robert Todd Lincoln of New York

1896 - Democratic - Horace Boies of Iowa / William Jennings Bryan of Nebraska

1900 - Democratic - William Jennings Bryan of Nebraska / Thomas Beall Davis of West Virginia

1904 - Democratic - Joseph Folk of Missouri / Alton Parker of New York

1908 - Republican - Joseph G. Cannon of Illinois / Philander Knox of Pennsylvania

1912 - Republican - Theodore Roosevelt of New York / William Howard Taft of Ohio

1916 - Republican - Robert La. Follette of Wisconsin /Albert Cummins of Iowa

1920 - Republican - Henry Ford of Michigan / Charles Hughes of New York

1924 - Democratic - Al Smith of New York / Carter Glass of Virginia

1928 - Democratic - Alexander Palmer of Pennsylvania /  Robert Latham Owen of Oklahoma

1932 - Republican - William Borah of Idaho / Charles Dawes of Illinois

1936 - Republican - Theodore Roosevelt Jr. of New York / Joseph France of Maryland

1940 - Democratic - James F. Byrnes of South Carolina / Millard Tydings of Maryland

1944 - Democratic - Paul V. McNutt of Indiana / Jesse H. Jones of Texas

1948 - Democratic - Andrew Biemiller of Wisconsin / Harry S. Truman of Missouri

1952 - Democratic - Hubert Humphrey of Minnesota / Paul A. Dever of Massachusetts

1956 - Democratic - Estes Kefauver of Tennessee /W. Averell Harriman of New York

1960 - Republican - Earl Warren of California / Douglas MacArthur of Arkansas

1964 - Republican - Margaret Chase Smith of Maine / William Scranton of Pennsylvania

1968 - Republican - Margaret Chase Smith of Maine / Henry Cabot Lodge of Massachusetts

1972 - Republican - Richard Nixon of California / Spiro Agnew of Maryland

1976 - Democratic - Georg McGovern of South Dakota / Abraham A. Ribicoff of Connecticut

1980 - Republican - Richard Schweiker of Pennsylvania / Kit Bond of Missouri

1984 - Republican - Elliot Richardson of Massachusetts / Daniel Evans of Washington

1988 - Democratic - Martha Layne Collins of Kentucky / Dale Bumpers of Arkansas

1992 - Republican - Richard Schweiker of Pennsylvania / George Allen of Virginia

1996 - Democratic - Michael Dukakis of Massachusetts / Bob Kerrey of Nebraska

2000 - Democratic - John McCain of Arizona / John Kerry of Massachusetts

2004 - Republican - Tommy Thompson of Wisconsin / George Pataki of New York

2008 - Republican - Jim Gilmore of Virginia / Kay Bailey Hutchinson of Texas  

2012 - Republican - Kay Bailey Hutchinson of Texas / Charlie Crist of Florida

Overall:
34 elections
20 Democratic Wins
14 Republican Wins
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1876 - The electoral commission narrowly awards all of the contested states' votes to Tilden giving him the presidency.
 
1880 - Tilden loses reelection being seen as weak, sickly and ineffective despite initially high aspirations.

 1884 - Blaine was a popular President who was widely seen as effective especially in his relationship with Congress. Unfortunately for Blaine, a scandal would break close to election day regarding awarding railroad charters unfairly. This issue would cost Blaine the presidency.

1888 - Thurmond opts to not run for a second term in office. VP Bayard quickly secures the Democratic nomination and narrowly defeats Chester A. Arthur.

1892 - Bayard is elected to a second term easily over George Edmunds. Bayard's Vice President unfortunately died of natural causes during his first term thus he was elected with Horace Boies of Iowa as his running mate this time. Trade was a significant issue during Bayard's term.

 1896 - William McKinley wins the presidency. His administration was marked by rapid economic growth and the Spanish American War which resulted in the American occupation of Cuba (and eventual statehood).

 1900 - McKinley is reelected but is assassinated in 1901. VP John Davis Long assumes the presidency and accuses Spanish nationalists of orchestrating the assassination of McKinley. Relations become very intense between Spain and the United States as the fingers are being pointed at Spain.

1904 - Davis Long is elected to a full term of his own. Soon after, King Alfonso XIII of Spain dies unexpectedly. Spain blames Davis Long for the death of Alfonso further escalating tensions. Spain and Austria jointly declare war on the United States. France and England, seeing an opportunity, align with the United States against Spain and Austria-Hungary. Thus begins World War 1. Ultimately, the Monde Alliance would be the United States, England, France, Germany, Sweden while the Oeste Alliance would be: Spain, Austria-Hungary, Italy, China and Mexico. The war would be won by the Monde Alliance in 1908. The result of the war would be the American annexation of much of northern Mexico, the end of Spain as a global power, and the breakdown of the Austria-Hungarian Empire. Years later, it would be discovered that Alfonso died of the flu.

1908 -  Joseph Folk beats out Jospeh Cannon in a race that swings opposite than expected due to the popularity of President Davis Long. Folk's presidency is rather uncontroversial and he wins a second term. Folk becomes known for improving relations with Europe after the First World War.

1912 - Folks second term in office. He beats out Governor Theodore Roosevelt of New York who is was seen as a rising star in the Republican Party.

 1916 - Folk had widely been expected to run for a third term but opts against running at the eleventh hour. Democrats are in shambles as they try to find a nominee -- Vice President Kearns was known to be in poor health but recommends Governor Thomas Marshall for the nomination. Marshall beats out the Republican ticket.
 
1920 - Marshall's presidency saw the upward swing of the economy and won a second term, securing four terms in a row for the Democratic Party.
 
1924 - Calvin Coolidge is elected President of the United States ending four straight cycles of Republican losses.

 1928 - Coolidge is seen as a success as the nation continues its period of peace and prosperity. In Europe, nationalism and resentment is growing toward the peace deal that was made for World War 1.

1932 - VP Borah loses the 1932 Presidential election but Coolidge dies of natural causes allowing Borah to briefly serve as President. Baker's first term is spent mostly on handling the Great Depression and increased government spending. In 1933, Spain would annex Portugal.

1936 - Newton loses the popular vote but wins the Electoral College sparking protests across the nation for a brief period of time. Governor Theodore Roosevelt Jr, who won the popular vote, calls for the country to unite around Newton once again. In 1939, a fascist dictator in Spain would invade France beginning what would ultimately be World War Two.

1940 - Newton would die of natural causes in 1937 after his reelection. His Vice President had died earlier in the year. Secretary of State Cordell Hull ascends to he presidency, doing no one any favors he calls the death of both Newton and the Vice President "a little too coincidental" for comfort. Cordell orders the United States military to high alert. In Europe the stage is set with the following two alliances at war: Retribution Alliance - Spain, Austria, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Italy and the Monde Alliance - France and Germany. Governor Theodore Roosevelt Jr would win the Presidency in 1940.
 
1944 - President Roosevelt would initially be wary of getting involved in the war in Europe, however, with the fall of France and a mostly democratic Germany on it's heels he would push England into coming to Germany's aid. In 1941, Austria would announce the reformation of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. President Roosevelt would die of a heart attack in 1944 while actively seeking reelection. The Democratic Party had put up a sacrificial ticket that everyone assumed would lose, and the Republican Party quickly re-nominated VP Arthur Vandenberg for President. Vandenberg would win the election. In 1945, Spain would claim victory over Germany and launch an attack against the United States in Cuba. Vandenberg would ask for and receive a declaration of war from Congress. The United States entry into World War Two would push England over the edge to help the German-French Alliance.

 1948 - The war continues but President Vandenberg opts against seeking another term. The alliances are as follows: Retribution Alliance - Spain, Austro-Hungarian Empire, Romania (AH Empire), Bulgaria (AH Empire), Italy, Poland, Turkey, Japan, Argentina and the Monde Alliance - France (defeated) and Germany (mostly defeated), England, United States, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Brazil. The 1948 election is won by Vice President and former New York Governor Thomas Dewey.

1952 – World War Two ends with the signing of the Peace Accord at Madrid. The Retribution Alliance’s offensive failed after their forces attacked a Soviet battalion in 1949 they mistook for enemies on the Polish-Soviet border. The USSR would declare war and combined with a US invasion in 1950, the Monde Alliance would declare victory in early 1952. Spain would be broken up into several new countries including Galicia, Catalonia, Leon and others.  Italy would have a Democratic government installed. However communist sympathizers would be democratically elected in both Germany and France as a result.  Dewey would be seen as a hero and would keep getting reelected until he opted not to run in 1960.

1956 – The nations economy would surge as Americans came home from war. A cold front would form in Europe with an emerging French-German-Soviet communist alliance.

1960 – Humphrey would try a second time for the Presidency and win, defeating former VP Earl Warren. Humphrey would push to warm relations with France and Germany despite their communist leaning democratic governments.

1964 – Humphrey is reelected by a narrow margin narrowly beating out the first female major party presidential nominee. The economy slows down during Humphrey’s term which is also marked by his refusal to commit US forces to overthrow the rise of dictatorships in Central America.

1968 – Margaret Chase Smith tries again for the presidency and loses to Vice President Averell Harriman. President Harriman

1972 – Harriman is assassinated after the Democratic National Convention by a communist sympathizer. Vice President, now President, Johnson is inaugurated and declared the Democratic nominee. Harriman had been down in the polls but Johnson surges due to Harriman’s death and wins the presidency. Johnson dies two days into his first full term of heart failure.

1976 - McGovern's term in office is marked by an economic depression, inflation, gas shortage and what is perceived to be a weakening of the United States abroad. He is sounded defeated in November 1976.

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