List of Alternate Presidents

[Antonio the Sixth]

38. Gerald J .Ford (R-MI)

Who is this one ?

[GLPman]

38. Gerald J .Ford (R-MI)

Who is this one ?

Obviously it's supposed to be Gerald R. Ford. It's been fixed.

[Psychic Octopus]

The League's Success

1913-1921 Woodrow Wilson
1921-1929 John J. Pershing
1929-1933 Herbert Hoover
1933-1941 Robert La Follete, Jr.
1941-1944 Wendell Willkie
1944-1953 Richard Russell
1953-1961 Lyndon Johnson
1961-1964 Adlai Stevenson
1964-1973 Hubert Humphrey
1973-1977 Spiro Agnew
1977-1985 Edward Kennedy
1985-1993 John Glenn
1993-1997 Gary Hart
1997-2005 Colin Powell
2005-2009 John Kerry
2009-2017 Kay Bailey Hutchison

[Barnes]

38. Gerald R. Ford (R-MI) / Robert J. “Bob” Dole (R-KS): 1977-1985
39. Gary Hart (D-CO) / John Conyers (D-MI): 1985-1987*
40. John Conyers (D-MI) / Albert A. “Al” Gore (D-TN): 1987-1989**
41. Pete B. Wilson (R-CA) / Paul S. Trible (R-VA): 1989-1997
42. William J. “Bill” Clinton (D-AR) / Zell B. Miller (D-GA): 1997-2001
43. Jon L. Kyl (R-AZ) / Richard J. Santorum (R-PA): 2001-2009
44. Barack H. Obama (D-IL) / John F. Kerry (D-MA): 2009-?

38: Assuming the Oval Office in wake of Nixon's resignation, President Ford ran for re-election in 1976, barely defeating his Democrat opponent, Georgia Governor Jimmy Carter. During Ford's administration, the US combated communist-influenced militias in Latin America and was able to install several pro-democracy governments in the small Latin nations. By 1980, however, inflation was on the rise and there were heavy fuel shortages. In the Middle East, hostages were taken at the American embassy in Iran, but a daring and controversial military operation, ordered by Ford, proved successful. Ford also implemented a series of tax-cuts, which aided the economy from sliding over the edge. Ford narrowly won re-election in 1980, mainly due to the fact that the Democrats had offered up a weak opponent. By  the 1984 election, despite a declining Soviet Union and a somewhat improved economy, Americans were ready for a Democrat White House.

39: Gary Hart had brought John Conyers of Michigan to the ticket, making the ticket the first one to include an African-American. History was made in November of 1984 when the Hart/Conyers ticket defeated the Dole/Lott ticket. The first year of Hart's presidency very much resembled the final year of Ford's presidency: Hart focused on fixing the economy and continuing relations with a declining Soviet Union. Hart was heavily criticized by several members of his own party for not eliminating some of the tax-cuts set up by Ford. Hart set up several government programs for Americans, including a bill that funded abortion-awareness centers and clinics across the country. Hart also prepared for funding a 'War on Drugs,' but the unthinkable happened in February of 1987, when President Hart died of a stroke.

40: John Conyers assumed the Oval Office in February of 1987 as the first African-American President. In the wake of President Hart's death, President Conyers repealed all of Ford's tax-cuts and declared a 'War on Drugs.' Conyers believed that guns and drugs went hand-in-hand and, as a result, also attempted to pass several strict gun possession laws, most of which failed, however, due to a Republican majority in Congress. As President, Conyers also continued talks with the Soviet Union. Conyers chose Gore as his running mate in the '88 election, but faced a heavily-fueled Pete Wilson campaign. Despite his success abroad, Conyers was defeated on the basis of his domestic issues by the Wilson/Trible ticket.

41: The beginning of the Wilson presidency was marked by the fall of the Berlin Wall and the disintegration of the Soviet Union. Back in the United States, Wilson had the duty of eliminating a large deficit (though not as large as OTL since the tax-cuts were phased out earlier on). Wilson cut government spending significantly as a result. Unemployment rose as the US entered a mild recession and Wilson was forced to implement several pro-worker pieces of legislation. The United States also participated in the Gulf War, in which US troops were deployed to the Middle East in an effort to defend Kuwait from an invading Iraq. The mission proved to be incredibly victorious and the success of the operation led Wilson to win re-election in 1992. By the beginning of his second term, Wilson faced increasing pressure from Democrats to implement a healthcare plan, but Wilson turned down all the requests, siting the plan as 'ridiculous.' The second term of Wilson was much less exciting than the first, but saw strong intervention in Somalia (more successful than in OTL) and the eventual recovery of the economy. Wilson's VP, Paul Trible, was viewed as somewhat inexperienced when matched up against Democratic challenger Bill Clinton in 1996, as was defeated by the bizarre Clinton/Miller ticket.

42: Nobody was really sure what to expect from the odd combination of Bill Clinton and Zell Miller. As President, Clinton mostly focused on issues abroad, such as the invasion of Kosovo, attacks of the U.S.S. Cole by Osama bin Laden, and the possibility of a nuclear Iraq. Vice President Miller was often accused of being much more conservative than liberal and, as a result, seemed to hinder the Clinton/Miller ticket in 2000. By September of 2000, it became increasingly obvious that the Democrats were not going to win in November, which proved true as the Clinton/Miller ticket was soundly defeated by the Republican Kyl/Santorum ticket.

43: President Kyl originally dealt with education reform, but was forced to throw all plans aside when the September 11th attacks happened. As a result, Kyl ordered the invasion of Afghanistan to destroy terrorist organizations such as the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. By early 2004, Afghanistan had largely proven to be successful and, with the exception of a few failed plots and a minor anthrax scare, there had not been any other terrorist attacks on U.S. soil. Kyl easily won re-election in 2004 over the Edwards/Clark ticket, but Kyl's second term was much less successful. The Gulf Coast was battered by Hurricane Katrina in 2005 and many Americans felt that Kyl had failed to respond quickly. Although Afghanistan was now secure and mostly rid of the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, Kyl's decision to invade Iraq in 2006 had proven to be disastrous. No weapons of mass destruction were found, nor was Osama bin Laden. Polls indicated that the approval of the War in Iraq was around 35-40%. Democrats made huge gains in the Senate and House in the 2006 elections, as well, and Kyl saw his approval ratings drop by as much as 20%. To make matters worse, the economy plunged into a recession in September of 2008. In November of 2008, the GOP lost the election to a strongly-favored Obama/Kerry ticket.

44: Barack Obama, a little-known Senator from Illinois, quickly emerged victorious in the Democrat Primaries (since Bill Clinton wasn't as popular in this TL, which meant neither was Hillary), and was elected as the nation's second African-American President in November 2008. As soon as he took office, Obama quickly focused on improving the economy, by passing a Stimulus Bill, and fixing operations in Iraq. Democrats hoped that Obama would win re-election in 2012, which would make him the first Democrat since LBJ to do so.

*Died of a stroke
**First African-American President

Ford couldn't have run in 1980 because of term limits.

[Lahbas]

38. Gerald R. Ford (R-MI) / Robert J. “Bob” Dole (R-KS): 1977-1985
39. Gary Hart (D-CO) / John Conyers (D-MI): 1985-1987*
40. John Conyers (D-MI) / Albert A. “Al” Gore (D-TN): 1987-1989**
41. Pete B. Wilson (R-CA) / Paul S. Trible (R-VA): 1989-1997
42. William J. “Bill” Clinton (D-AR) / Zell B. Miller (D-GA): 1997-2001
43. Jon L. Kyl (R-AZ) / Richard J. Santorum (R-PA): 2001-2009
44. Barack H. Obama (D-IL) / John F. Kerry (D-MA): 2009-?

38: Assuming the Oval Office in wake of Nixon's resignation, President Ford ran for re-election in 1976, barely defeating his Democrat opponent, Georgia Governor Jimmy Carter. During Ford's administration, the US combated communist-influenced militias in Latin America and was able to install several pro-democracy governments in the small Latin nations. By 1980, however, inflation was on the rise and there were heavy fuel shortages. In the Middle East, hostages were taken at the American embassy in Iran, but a daring and controversial military operation, ordered by Ford, proved successful. Ford also implemented a series of tax-cuts, which aided the economy from sliding over the edge. Ford narrowly won re-election in 1980, mainly due to the fact that the Democrats had offered up a weak opponent. By  the 1984 election, despite a declining Soviet Union and a somewhat improved economy, Americans were ready for a Democrat White House.

39: Gary Hart had brought John Conyers of Michigan to the ticket, making the ticket the first one to include an African-American. History was made in November of 1984 when the Hart/Conyers ticket defeated the Dole/Lott ticket. The first year of Hart's presidency very much resembled the final year of Ford's presidency: Hart focused on fixing the economy and continuing relations with a declining Soviet Union. Hart was heavily criticized by several members of his own party for not eliminating some of the tax-cuts set up by Ford. Hart set up several government programs for Americans, including a bill that funded abortion-awareness centers and clinics across the country. Hart also prepared for funding a 'War on Drugs,' but the unthinkable happened in February of 1987, when President Hart died of a stroke.

40: John Conyers assumed the Oval Office in February of 1987 as the first African-American President. In the wake of President Hart's death, President Conyers repealed all of Ford's tax-cuts and declared a 'War on Drugs.' Conyers believed that guns and drugs went hand-in-hand and, as a result, also attempted to pass several strict gun possession laws, most of which failed, however, due to a Republican majority in Congress. As President, Conyers also continued talks with the Soviet Union. Conyers chose Gore as his running mate in the '88 election, but faced a heavily-fueled Pete Wilson campaign. Despite his success abroad, Conyers was defeated on the basis of his domestic issues by the Wilson/Trible ticket.

41: The beginning of the Wilson presidency was marked by the fall of the Berlin Wall and the disintegration of the Soviet Union. Back in the United States, Wilson had the duty of eliminating a large deficit (though not as large as OTL since the tax-cuts were phased out earlier on). Wilson cut government spending significantly as a result. Unemployment rose as the US entered a mild recession and Wilson was forced to implement several pro-worker pieces of legislation. The United States also participated in the Gulf War, in which US troops were deployed to the Middle East in an effort to defend Kuwait from an invading Iraq. The mission proved to be incredibly victorious and the success of the operation led Wilson to win re-election in 1992. By the beginning of his second term, Wilson faced increasing pressure from Democrats to implement a healthcare plan, but Wilson turned down all the requests, siting the plan as 'ridiculous.' The second term of Wilson was much less exciting than the first, but saw strong intervention in Somalia (more successful than in OTL) and the eventual recovery of the economy. Wilson's VP, Paul Trible, was viewed as somewhat inexperienced when matched up against Democratic challenger Bill Clinton in 1996, as was defeated by the bizarre Clinton/Miller ticket.

42: Nobody was really sure what to expect from the odd combination of Bill Clinton and Zell Miller. As President, Clinton mostly focused on issues abroad, such as the invasion of Kosovo, attacks of the U.S.S. Cole by Osama bin Laden, and the possibility of a nuclear Iraq. Vice President Miller was often accused of being much more conservative than liberal and, as a result, seemed to hinder the Clinton/Miller ticket in 2000. By September of 2000, it became increasingly obvious that the Democrats were not going to win in November, which proved true as the Clinton/Miller ticket was soundly defeated by the Republican Kyl/Santorum ticket.

43: President Kyl originally dealt with education reform, but was forced to throw all plans aside when the September 11th attacks happened. As a result, Kyl ordered the invasion of Afghanistan to destroy terrorist organizations such as the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. By early 2004, Afghanistan had largely proven to be successful and, with the exception of a few failed plots and a minor anthrax scare, there had not been any other terrorist attacks on U.S. soil. Kyl easily won re-election in 2004 over the Edwards/Clark ticket, but Kyl's second term was much less successful. The Gulf Coast was battered by Hurricane Katrina in 2005 and many Americans felt that Kyl had failed to respond quickly. Although Afghanistan was now secure and mostly rid of the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, Kyl's decision to invade Iraq in 2006 had proven to be disastrous. No weapons of mass destruction were found, nor was Osama bin Laden. Polls indicated that the approval of the War in Iraq was around 35-40%. Democrats made huge gains in the Senate and House in the 2006 elections, as well, and Kyl saw his approval ratings drop by as much as 20%. To make matters worse, the economy plunged into a recession in September of 2008. In November of 2008, the GOP lost the election to a strongly-favored Obama/Kerry ticket.

44: Barack Obama, a little-known Senator from Illinois, quickly emerged victorious in the Democrat Primaries (since Bill Clinton wasn't as popular in this TL, which meant neither was Hillary), and was elected as the nation's second African-American President in November 2008. As soon as he took office, Obama quickly focused on improving the economy, by passing a Stimulus Bill, and fixing operations in Iraq. Democrats hoped that Obama would win re-election in 2012, which would make him the first Democrat since LBJ to do so.

*Died of a stroke
**First African-American President

Ford couldn't have run in 1980 because of term limits.

Apparently, in his timeline, Watergate does not happen, and Ford wins the GOP nomination after serving as Nixon's VP, Nixon being term-limited.

[Barnes]

38. Gerald R. Ford (R-MI) / Robert J. “Bob” Dole (R-KS): 1977-1985
39. Gary Hart (D-CO) / John Conyers (D-MI): 1985-1987*
40. John Conyers (D-MI) / Albert A. “Al” Gore (D-TN): 1987-1989**
41. Pete B. Wilson (R-CA) / Paul S. Trible (R-VA): 1989-1997
42. William J. “Bill” Clinton (D-AR) / Zell B. Miller (D-GA): 1997-2001
43. Jon L. Kyl (R-AZ) / Richard J. Santorum (R-PA): 2001-2009
44. Barack H. Obama (D-IL) / John F. Kerry (D-MA): 2009-?

38: Assuming the Oval Office in wake of Nixon's resignation, President Ford ran for re-election in 1976, barely defeating his Democrat opponent, Georgia Governor Jimmy Carter. During Ford's administration, the US combated communist-influenced militias in Latin America and was able to install several pro-democracy governments in the small Latin nations. By 1980, however, inflation was on the rise and there were heavy fuel shortages. In the Middle East, hostages were taken at the American embassy in Iran, but a daring and controversial military operation, ordered by Ford, proved successful. Ford also implemented a series of tax-cuts, which aided the economy from sliding over the edge. Ford narrowly won re-election in 1980, mainly due to the fact that the Democrats had offered up a weak opponent. By  the 1984 election, despite a declining Soviet Union and a somewhat improved economy, Americans were ready for a Democrat White House.

39: Gary Hart had brought John Conyers of Michigan to the ticket, making the ticket the first one to include an African-American. History was made in November of 1984 when the Hart/Conyers ticket defeated the Dole/Lott ticket. The first year of Hart's presidency very much resembled the final year of Ford's presidency: Hart focused on fixing the economy and continuing relations with a declining Soviet Union. Hart was heavily criticized by several members of his own party for not eliminating some of the tax-cuts set up by Ford. Hart set up several government programs for Americans, including a bill that funded abortion-awareness centers and clinics across the country. Hart also prepared for funding a 'War on Drugs,' but the unthinkable happened in February of 1987, when President Hart died of a stroke.

40: John Conyers assumed the Oval Office in February of 1987 as the first African-American President. In the wake of President Hart's death, President Conyers repealed all of Ford's tax-cuts and declared a 'War on Drugs.' Conyers believed that guns and drugs went hand-in-hand and, as a result, also attempted to pass several strict gun possession laws, most of which failed, however, due to a Republican majority in Congress. As President, Conyers also continued talks with the Soviet Union. Conyers chose Gore as his running mate in the '88 election, but faced a heavily-fueled Pete Wilson campaign. Despite his success abroad, Conyers was defeated on the basis of his domestic issues by the Wilson/Trible ticket.

41: The beginning of the Wilson presidency was marked by the fall of the Berlin Wall and the disintegration of the Soviet Union. Back in the United States, Wilson had the duty of eliminating a large deficit (though not as large as OTL since the tax-cuts were phased out earlier on). Wilson cut government spending significantly as a result. Unemployment rose as the US entered a mild recession and Wilson was forced to implement several pro-worker pieces of legislation. The United States also participated in the Gulf War, in which US troops were deployed to the Middle East in an effort to defend Kuwait from an invading Iraq. The mission proved to be incredibly victorious and the success of the operation led Wilson to win re-election in 1992. By the beginning of his second term, Wilson faced increasing pressure from Democrats to implement a healthcare plan, but Wilson turned down all the requests, siting the plan as 'ridiculous.' The second term of Wilson was much less exciting than the first, but saw strong intervention in Somalia (more successful than in OTL) and the eventual recovery of the economy. Wilson's VP, Paul Trible, was viewed as somewhat inexperienced when matched up against Democratic challenger Bill Clinton in 1996, as was defeated by the bizarre Clinton/Miller ticket.

42: Nobody was really sure what to expect from the odd combination of Bill Clinton and Zell Miller. As President, Clinton mostly focused on issues abroad, such as the invasion of Kosovo, attacks of the U.S.S. Cole by Osama bin Laden, and the possibility of a nuclear Iraq. Vice President Miller was often accused of being much more conservative than liberal and, as a result, seemed to hinder the Clinton/Miller ticket in 2000. By September of 2000, it became increasingly obvious that the Democrats were not going to win in November, which proved true as the Clinton/Miller ticket was soundly defeated by the Republican Kyl/Santorum ticket.

43: President Kyl originally dealt with education reform, but was forced to throw all plans aside when the September 11th attacks happened. As a result, Kyl ordered the invasion of Afghanistan to destroy terrorist organizations such as the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. By early 2004, Afghanistan had largely proven to be successful and, with the exception of a few failed plots and a minor anthrax scare, there had not been any other terrorist attacks on U.S. soil. Kyl easily won re-election in 2004 over the Edwards/Clark ticket, but Kyl's second term was much less successful. The Gulf Coast was battered by Hurricane Katrina in 2005 and many Americans felt that Kyl had failed to respond quickly. Although Afghanistan was now secure and mostly rid of the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, Kyl's decision to invade Iraq in 2006 had proven to be disastrous. No weapons of mass destruction were found, nor was Osama bin Laden. Polls indicated that the approval of the War in Iraq was around 35-40%. Democrats made huge gains in the Senate and House in the 2006 elections, as well, and Kyl saw his approval ratings drop by as much as 20%. To make matters worse, the economy plunged into a recession in September of 2008. In November of 2008, the GOP lost the election to a strongly-favored Obama/Kerry ticket.

44: Barack Obama, a little-known Senator from Illinois, quickly emerged victorious in the Democrat Primaries (since Bill Clinton wasn't as popular in this TL, which meant neither was Hillary), and was elected as the nation's second African-American President in November 2008. As soon as he took office, Obama quickly focused on improving the economy, by passing a Stimulus Bill, and fixing operations in Iraq. Democrats hoped that Obama would win re-election in 2012, which would make him the first Democrat since LBJ to do so.

*Died of a stroke
**First African-American President

Ford couldn't have run in 1980 because of term limits.

Apparently, in his timeline, Watergate does not happen, and Ford wins the GOP nomination after serving as Nixon's VP, Nixon being term-limited.

Oh! Didn't see the 1977!

[Antonio the Sixth]

The League's Success

1913-1921 Woodrow Wilson
1921-1929 John J. Pershing
1929-1933 Herbert Hoover
1933-1941 Robert La Follete, Jr.
1941-1944 Wendell Willkie
1944-1953 Richard Russell
1953-1961 Lyndon Johnson
1961-1964 Adlai Stevenson
1964-1973 Hubert Humphrey
1973-1977 Spiro Agnew
1977-1985 Edward Kennedy
1985-1993 John Glenn
1993-1997 Gary Hart
1997-2005 Colin Powell
2005-2009 John Kerry
2009-2017 Kay Bailey Hutchison

Good list.

[Psychic Octopus]

The League's Success

1913-1921 Woodrow Wilson
1921-1929 John J. Pershing
1929-1933 Herbert Hoover
1933-1941 Robert La Follete, Jr.
1941-1944 Wendell Willkie
1944-1953 Richard Russell
1953-1961 Lyndon Johnson
1961-1964 Adlai Stevenson
1964-1973 Hubert Humphrey
1973-1977 Spiro Agnew
1977-1985 Edward Kennedy
1985-1993 John Glenn
1993-1997 Gary Hart
1997-2005 Colin Powell
2005-2009 John Kerry
2009-2017 Kay Bailey Hutchison

Good list.

Thanks. In this list America becomes a lot more like Europe, and we have a French-like economy with Sweden's social values.

[Antonio the Sixth]

The League's Success

1913-1921 Woodrow Wilson
1921-1929 John J. Pershing
1929-1933 Herbert Hoover
1933-1941 Robert La Follete, Jr.
1941-1944 Wendell Willkie
1944-1953 Richard Russell
1953-1961 Lyndon Johnson
1961-1964 Adlai Stevenson
1964-1973 Hubert Humphrey
1973-1977 Spiro Agnew
1977-1985 Edward Kennedy
1985-1993 John Glenn
1993-1997 Gary Hart
1997-2005 Colin Powell
2005-2009 John Kerry
2009-2017 Kay Bailey Hutchison

Good list.

Thanks. In this list America becomes a lot more like Europe, and we have a French-like economy with Sweden's social values.

Ah, well, not surprising that I love it !

[H. Ross Peron]

The League's Success

1913-1921 Woodrow Wilson
1921-1929 John J. Pershing
1929-1933 Herbert Hoover
1933-1941 Robert La Follete, Jr.
1941-1944 Wendell Willkie
1944-1953 Richard Russell
1953-1961 Lyndon Johnson
1961-1964 Adlai Stevenson
1964-1973 Hubert Humphrey
1973-1977 Spiro Agnew
1977-1985 Edward Kennedy
1985-1993 John Glenn
1993-1997 Gary Hart
1997-2005 Colin Powell
2005-2009 John Kerry
2009-2017 Kay Bailey Hutchison

Good list.

Thanks. In this list America becomes a lot more like Europe, and we have a French-like economy with Sweden's social values.

Ah, well, not surprising that I love it !

Dystopic to me, especially President Gary Hart!

[Reaganfan]

Richard Nixon (1969-1977)
Henry Jackson (1977-1981)
George Bush (1981-1989)
Michael Dukakis (1989-1993)
Howard Baker (1993-1997)
Evan Bayh (1997-2001)
John McCain (2001-2009)
George Allen (2009-PRESENT)

[Sewer]

Richard Nixon (1969-1977)
Henry Jackson (1977-1981)
George Bush (1981-1989)
Michael Dukakis (1989-1993)
Howard Baker (1993-1997)
Evan Bayh (1997-2001)
John McCain (2001-2009)
George Allen (2009-PRESENT)

Big hack list.


























Macaca.

[hcallega]

RFK Lives Alternate Presidents

This is a partner to the Senate list
Robert Kennedy/Ralph Yarboroug: 1969-1977
Ronald Reagan/Charles Percy: 1977-1985
Jack Kemp/George Bush: 1985-1989
Julian Bond/Lloyd Bentsen: 1989-1997
John McCain/Carroll Campbell (Fred Thompson following his death): 1997-2005
John Edwards/J.P. Kennedy III: 2005-Present

[Psychic Octopus]

Bump.

HHH's Surprise

1969-1973 Hubert Humphrey
1973-1981 Nelson Rockefeller
1981-1985 John Connally
1985-1993 Lloyd Bentsen
1993-2001 Al Gore
2001-2005 George Allen
2005-         Wesley Clark

[Psychic Octopus]

The League's Success

1913-1921 Woodrow Wilson
1921-1929 John J. Pershing
1929-1933 Herbert Hoover
1933-1941 Robert La Follete, Jr.
1941-1944 Wendell Willkie
1944-1953 Richard Russell
1953-1961 Lyndon Johnson
1961-1964 Adlai Stevenson
1964-1973 Hubert Humphrey
1973-1977 Spiro Agnew
1977-1985 Edward Kennedy
1985-1993 John Glenn
1993-1997 Gary Hart
1997-2005 Colin Powell
2005-2009 John Kerry
2009-2017 Kay Bailey Hutchison

Good list.

Thanks. In this list America becomes a lot more like Europe, and we have a French-like economy with Sweden's social values.

Ah, well, not surprising that I love it !

Dystopic to me, especially President Gary Hart!

Huh. Out of all the liberals I put on my list, Gary Hart scares you the most?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Bump.

HHH's Surprise

1969-1973 Hubert Humphrey
1973-1981 Nelson Rockefeller
1981-1985 John Connally
1985-1993 Lloyd Bentsen
1993-2001 Al Gore
2001-2005 George Allen
2005-         Wesley Clark

Why Clark ? I have difficulties to see the democratic party  become a southern party ( Bentsen, Gore, Clark ) because of Humphrey's win. It would be a bit paradoxal...

[Psychic Octopus]

Bump.

HHH's Surprise

1969-1973 Hubert Humphrey
1973-1981 Nelson Rockefeller
1981-1985 John Connally
1985-1993 Lloyd Bentsen
1993-2001 Al Gore
2001-2005 George Allen
2005-         Wesley Clark

Why Clark ? I have difficulties to see the democratic party  become a southern party ( Bentsen, Gore, Clark ) because of Humphrey's win. It would be a bit paradoxal...

Actually, they don't become a southern party per se, the democrats just have trouble nominating people from the other part of the country. Both parties are supposed to become more centrist.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Bump.

HHH's Surprise

1969-1973 Hubert Humphrey
1973-1981 Nelson Rockefeller
1981-1985 John Connally
1985-1993 Lloyd Bentsen
1993-2001 Al Gore
2001-2005 George Allen
2005-         Wesley Clark

Why Clark ? I have difficulties to see the democratic party  become a southern party ( Bentsen, Gore, Clark ) because of Humphrey's win. It would be a bit paradoxal...

Actually, they don't become a southern party per se, the democrats just have trouble nominating people from the other part of the country. Both parties are supposed to become more centrist.

Yeah, I understood that. I just find strange to see how Humphrey's win could cause the rise of southern moderate democrats, whereas he was a northern liberal.

[Captain Chaos]

This list was based on an alternate history timeline from another website in which the Chinese and Russians go to war over the Ussuri River which draws the US to the USSR's side. As a result, the US is not bogged down by the Vietnam War. America goes from protesting the Vietnam War to supporting military action at the USSR-Chinese border.

Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX): 1963-1973
Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN): 1973-1981
George H.W. Bush (R-TX): 1981-1989
Mario Cuomo (D-NY): 1989-1997
John McCain (R-AZ): 1997-2005
Joseph Lieberman (D-CT): 2005-current*

*first Jewish President

[Historico]

Ok here are two lists based on my pal Robert's What Hath a Warm Overcoat Wrought TL, located here... http://www.geocities.com/robertp6165/northernsecessioncontents.html

First up The Presidents of the United States of America...

9. William H. Harrison (W-OH): March 4th 1841-March 4th 1843**
10. John Tyler (D-VA): March 4th 1843-March 4th 1845
11. James N. Polk (D-TN): March 4th 1845-June 15th 1849*
12. Thomas H. Benton (D-MO): June 15th 1849-March 4th 1853
13. Jefferson F. Davis (D-MS): March 4th 1853-March 4th 1861
14. Robert Toombs (W-GA): March 4th 1861-March 4th 1865
15. Robert M.T. Hunter (D-VA): March 4th 1865-March 4th 1873
16. Henry W. Allen (W-LA): March 4th 1873-March 4th 1881
17. James B. Groome (D-MD): March 4th 1881-March 4th 1889
18. John H. Reagan (W-TX): March 4th 1889-March 4th 1897
19. William O. Bradley (W-KY): March 4th 1897-March 4th 1901
20. Thomas E. Watson (D-GA):  March 4th 1901-March 4th 1909
21. James K. Vardaman (D-MS): March 4th 1909-March 4th 1913
22. John M. Parker (W-LA): March 4th 1913-March 4th 1921
23. Sidney J. Catts (D-FL): March 4th 1921-March 4th 1929
24. Walter F. George (D-GA): March 4th 1929-March 4th 1932
25. Huey P. Long Jr. (W-LA): March 4th 1932- September 10th 1935*
26. James A. Reed (W-MO): September 10th 1935-January 20th 1941
27. Cordell Hull (W-TN): January 20th 1941-January 20th 1949
28. J. Strom Thurmond (D-SC): January 20th 1949-January 20th 1961**
29. Lyndon B. Johnson (W-TX): January 20th 1961-January 22nd 1963*
30. Cecil H. Underwood (W-VA): January 22nd 1963-January 20th 1969
31. William Westmoreland (D-SC): January 20th 1969-January 20th 1973
32. George C. Wallace Jr. (W-AL): January 20th 1973-January 20th 1981
33. William F. Graham Jr. (D-NC): January 20th 1981-January 20th 1989
34. Patrick J. Buchanan (D-VA): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1993
35. L. Douglas Wilder (W-VA): January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001***
36. Gary L. Bauer (D-KY): January 20th 2001-January 20th 2009
37. José Guadalupe O. Milan (W-BC): January 20th 2009-???***

Notes

9. First President to be removed from office via impeachment.
11. Died in office due to possible complications of cholera.
25. Assassinated by Dr. Carl Austin Weiss in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
28. First President to break the Two-Term Washington Tradition.
29. Died in office due to a massive heart attack.
35. First African American President.
37. First Hispanic American President(From TTL’s state of Baja California).

[Psychic Octopus]

That List is Amazing Historico.

[Historico]

Now here is The Presidents of the Federated States of America...

1. Daniel Webster (W-MA): March 18th 1844-March 4th 1849
2. Lewis Cass (D-MI): March 4th 1849-March 4th 1857
3. Abraham Lincoln (W-IL): March 4th 1857-March 4th 1861
4. Levi Boone (AR/R-IL): March 4th 1861-March 4th 1869
5. William M. Tweed (D-NY): March 4th 1869-March 4th 1877
6. J. Neeley Johnson (R-IN): March 4th 1877-June 31st 1880*
7. John Sherman (R-OH): June 31st 1880-March 4th 1881
8. Thomas Cobb (D-IN): March 4th 1881-March 4th 1885
9. Schuyler Colfax Jr. (R-IN): March 4th 1885-January 13th 1893*
10. Robert T. Lincoln (R-IL): January 13th 1893-March 4th 1897
11. Adlai E. Stevenson (D-IL): March 4th 1897-March 4th 1901
12. Theodore Roosevelt (D-NY): March 4th 1901-March 4th 1909
13. Albert L. Lowell (R-MA): March 4th 1909-March 4th 1913
14. William R. Hearst (D-CA): March 4th 1913-March 4th 1921
15. Albert Johnson (R-WA): March 4th 1921-March 4th 1929
16. David A. Reed (R-PA): March 4th 1929-March 4th 1932
17. Emanuel Celler (D-NY): March 4th 1932-March 4th 1941***
18. Paul V. McNutt (D-IN): March 4th 1941-March 4th 1949
19. Robert A. Taft (R-OH): March 4th 1949-July 31st 1953*
20. Francis E. Walter (R-PA): July 31st 1953-March 4th 1961
21. Jacob K. Javits (D-NY): March 4th 1961-March 4th 1969***
22. Robert Taft Jr. (R-OH): March 4th 1969-March 4th 1973
23. William R. Tolbert Jr. (D-LA): March 4th 1973-March 4th 1980***
24. Alan M. Cranston (D-CA): March 4th 1981-March 4th 1985
25. Phillip Crane (R-IL): March 4th 1985-March 4th 1993
26. Pierre S. “Pete” Du Pont IV (D-DE): March 4th 1993-March 4th 1997
27. Richard G. “Dick” Lugar (R-IN): March 4th 1997-March 4th 2005
28. Malcolm S. “Steve” Forbes (R-NY): March 4th 2005-March 4th 2009
29. Hillary Rodham-Davis (D-IL): March 4th 2009-???***

Notes.

6. Died in Office
9. Died in office due to heart failure.
17.  First Catholic President
21. First Jewish President
23. First Black President (From the State of Liberia)
29. First Female President.

[Sewer]

28th:Champ Clark/Thomas Marshall (D) 1913-1917
29th:Charles Hughes/Charles Fairbanks (R) 1917-1918
29th:Charles Hughes/ (R) 1918-1921
30th:Thomas Marshall/James Cox (D) 1921-1925
31th:James Cox/ (D) 1925-1929
31th:James Cox/Al Smith (D) 1929-1933
32th:John Blaine/Charles Curtis (R) 1933-1934
33th:Charles Curtis/Herbert Hoover (R) 1934-1936
34th:Herbert Hoover/Alf Landon (R) 1936-1949
35th:Alf Landon/Earl Warren (R) 1949-1957
36th:Averell Harriman/Lyndon Johnson (D) 1957-1965
37th:Lyndon Johnson/Hubert Humphrey (D) 1965-1969
38th:Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew (R) 1969-1974
39th:Gerald Ford/Nelson Rockefeller (R) 1974-1977
40th:Ronald Reagan/Bob Dole (C) 1977-1981
41th:Henry Jackson/Frank Church (L) 1981-1983
42th:Frank Church/Fred Harris (L) 1983-1984
43th:Fred Harris/Walter Mondale (L) 1984-1993
44th:Bob Dole/Jack Kemp (C) 1993-2001
45th:John McCain/Arlen Specter (R) 2001-2009
46th:Howard Dean/Dick Gephardt (L) 2009-

[President Mitt]

Ok here is my new list for a possible "The Republic of Texas" Survives to the Present Day TL after im done with my Ronnie in '68 TL. I must admit I was reaching toward the end, cuz I belive butterflies would have radically different political figures who wern't even born IOTL be President.

The Eyes of Texas are upon You…

1. Samuel “Sam” Houston (I-Huntsville): October 22nd 1836-December 10th 1838
2. Mirabeau B. Lamar: (I-Laredo): December 10th 1838- December 13th 1841
3. Samuel “Sam” Houston: (I-Huntsville): December 13th 1841-December 9th 1844
4. Barnard E. Bee Sr.(N-Houston): December 9th 1844-December 9th 1847
5. Mirabeau B. Lamar (N-Laredo) December 9th 1847-December 9th 1850
6. Abner S. Lipscomb (N-Brenham): December 9th 1850-December 9th 1853
7. Thomas J. Rusk (H-Nacogdoches): December 9th 1853-December 9th 1856
8. Hardin R. Richards (N-Bowie County): December 9th 1856-December 9th 1859
9. Elisha M. Pease (H-Lampsas): December 9th 1859-December 9th 1862
10. Louis T. Wigfall (N-Galveston: December 9th 1862-December 9th 1865
11. Elisha M. Pease (H-Lampsas): December 9th 1865-December 9th 1868
12. Andrew J. Hamilton (H-Austin): December 9th 1868-December 9th 1871
13. Edmund J. Davis (H-Austin): December 9th 1871-December 9th 1874
14. Hamilton P. Bee (N-San Antonio): December 9th 1874-December 9th 1877
15. Richard Coke (N-Waco): December 9th 1877-December 9th 1880
16. Richard B. Hubbard Jr. (N-Tyler): December 9th 1880-December 9th 1883
17. Richard Coke (N-Waco): December 9th 1883-December 9th 1886
18. Lawrence S. “Sul” Ross (N-Brazos.): December 9th 1886-December 9th 1889
19. John Ireland (N-Seguin): December 9th 1889-December 9th 1891
20. Lawrence S. “Sul” Ross (N-Brazos): December 9th 1891-December 9th 1894
21. James S. “Big Jim” Hogg (P-Houston): December 9th 1894-December 9th 1897
22. Charles A. Culberson (P-Dallas): December 9th 1897-December 9th 1900
23. Joseph D. Sayers (N-Austin): December 9th 1900-December 9th 1903
24. James S. “Big Jim” Hogg (P-Houston): December 9th 1903-March 3 1906*
25. Roger Q. Mills (P-Corsicana): March 3rd-December 9th 1906
26. Thomas M. Campbell (P-Longview): December 9th 1906-December 9th 1909
27. Andrew J. Houston (P-Independence): December 9th 1909-December 9th 1912
28. Oscar B. Colquitt (N-Daingerfield): December 9th 1912-December 9th 1915
29. John Morris Shepard (N-Texarkana): December 9th 1915-December 9th 1918
30. William P. Hobby (N-Houston): December 9th 1918-December 9th 1921
31. James E. “Pa” Ferguson (P-Salado): December 9th 1921-December 9th 1924
32. Miriam A. “Ma” Ferguson (P-Salado): December 9th 1924-December 9th 1927**
33. James E. “Pa” Ferguson (P-Salado): December 9th 1927-December 9th 1930
34. John N. Garner (P-Uvalde): December 9th 1930-December 9th 1933
35. Sam Rayburn (N-Bonham): December 9th 1933-December 9th 1936
36. James V. Alfred (N-Corpus Christi): December 9th 1936-December 9th 1939
37. Sam Rayburn (N-Bonham): December 9th 1939-December 9th 1941
38. Thomas T. “Tom” Connally (N-Waco): December 9th 1941-December 9th 1944
39. James V. Alfred (N-Corpus Christi): December 9th 1944-December 9th 1947
40. Thomas T. “Tom” Connally (N-Waco): December 9th 1947-December 9th 1950
41. Wilbert L. “Pappy” O’Daniel (P-Dallas): December 9th 1950-December 9th 1953
42. Coke R. Stevenson (P-San Angelo): December 9th 1953-December 9th 1956
43. Allen Shivers (P-Austin): December 9th 1956-December 9th 1959
44. Marion P. Daniel Sr.(P-Liberty): December 9th 1959-December 9th 1962
45. Lyndon B. Johnson (N-Stonewall): December 9th 1962-December 9th 1965
46. Ralph W. Yarborugh (N-Austin): December 9th 1965-December 9th 1968
47. John Tower (P-Houston): December 9th 1968-December 9th 1971
48. John Connally (P-Houston): December 9th 1971-December 9th 1974
49. Lloyd M. Bentsen (N-Houston): December 9th 1974-December 9th 1977
50. Dolph Briscoe (P-Uvalde): December 9th 1977-December 9th 1980
51. Lloyd M. Bentsen: (N-Houston): December 9th 1980-December 9th 1983
52. George T. Leland: (N-Houston): December 9th 1983-December 9th 1986**
53. Eligio de la Garza (N-Mercedes): December 9th 1986-December 9th 1989**
54. Ann Richards (N-Austin): December 9th 1989-December 9th 1992**
55. Robert D. “Bob” Bullock (P-Austin): December 9th 1992-December 9th 1995
56. Ross Perot (I-Texarkana): December 9th 1995-December 9th 1998
57. James R. “Rick” Perry (P-Austin): December 9th 1998-December 9th 2001
58. Ron E. Paul (P-Lake Jackson): December 9th 2001-December 9th 2004
59. James R. “Rick” Perry (P-Austin): December 9th 2004-December 9th 2007
60. Richard S. “Kinky” Friedman (N-Medina) December 9th 2007-???**

Notes.

24. Died in office due to a Railroad accident.
32. First Female President
52. First African-Texan President
53. First Tejano President
54. Second Female President
60. First Jewish-Texan President.

N: Stands for the Nationalist Party, established in 1843 by Lamar, representing the anti-annexation, pro-slavery and pro-expansion political wing. Essentially the same as OTL Democrats, until the Great Depression and Dust Bowl which enabled them to become the big government and was able to pull away significant minority votes. The Nationalists in 2009 are a left to center party where the strong holds are border towns and the big urban areas.

H: Stood for the Houstonian Party, After Henry Clay’s victory in 1844(POD), The Pro Annexation wing that supported the nation’s 1st President eventually coalesced into the namesake party. Essentially the same as OTL 19th Century, the Houstonians wanted friendly relations with Native Americans, Abolitionists and generally Ameriphile. They also kept Texas neutral during the War of Secession, but were unable to win an election against Coke’s new Nationalist Party.

P: Populist Party, after the dissolution of the Houstonian Party in the 1890’s, many of the Pro-Farm faction of the party were caught up in the growing Populist movement in the US. The Party from the 1890’s to arguably the 1960’s, the party was a fiscally conservative, Pro-Farm, Pro Civil Rights for blacks that capitalized on the Progressive era of the early 1900’s. After the New Age policies of the Nation lists under Rayburn, the Populists shifted to the Center to Right Party it is today

Two Term POTROT’s: Sam Houston, Mireabeau Lamar, Elisha M. Pease, Richard Coke, Sul Ross, Big Jim Hogg, Pa Ferguson, Sam Rayburn, John V. Alfred, Tom Connally, and Rick Perry.

So would Texas use a popular vote system for elections?

[Historico]

Yeah, I would think they would stick to Popular Vote elections, with seperate Congressional County based election's. Btw...Here's my list for the POTUS in the Eye's of Texas are upon you timeline.

Eyes of Texas…USA Presidential List

10. John Tyler (W/I-VA): April 4th 1841-March 4th 1845
11. Henry Clay (W-KY): March 4th 1845-June 29th 1852*
12. Theodore Frelinghuysen (W-NJ): June 29th 1852-March 4th 1853
13. Lewis Cass (D-MI): March 4th 1853-March 4th 1857
14. Millard Fillmore (A-NY): March 4th 1857-March 4th 1861
15. Stephen A. Douglas (D-IL): March 4th 1861-June 3rd 1863*
16. Herschel V. Johnson (D-GA): June 3rd 1863-March 4th 1865
17. Joel Parker (D-NJ): March 4th 1865-March 4th 1869
18. Anthony Kennedy (A-MD): March 4th 1869-March 4th 1876
19. Winfield S. Hancock (D-PA): March 4th 1876-March 4th 1881
20. Nathaniel P. Banks (A-MA): March 4th 1881-September 1st 1884*
21. Alfred M. Waddell (A-NC): September 1st 1884-March 4th 1893
22. James B. Weaver (P-IA): March 4th 1893-March 4th 1901
23. Thomas B. Reed (A-ME): March 4th 1901-December 7th 1902*
24. Henry Waterson (A-KY): December 7th 1902-March 4th 1909
25. Theodore Roosevelt (A-NY): March 5th 1909-March 4th 1917
26. William J. Bryan (P-NE): March 4th 1917-July 26th 1925*
27. Burton K. Wheeler (P-MA): July 26th 1925-March 4th 1933
28. John W. Davis (A-WV): March 4th 1933-March 4th 1941
29. Charles L. McNary (A-OR): March 4th 1941-Febuary 25th 1944*
30. Herbert H. Lehman (A-NY): February 25th 1944-March 4th 1953
31. Millard E. Tidings (P-MD): March 4th 1953-March 4th 1961
32. Frank Carlson (P-KS): March 4th 1961-October 31st 1962*
33. John F. Kennedy (P-MA): October 31st 1962-March 4th 1965
34. Daniel Brewster (A-MD): March 4th 1965-June 6th 1968**
35. Hubert H. Humphrey (A-MN) June 6th 1968-January 13th 1978*
36. Daniel “Chappie James Jr. (A-FL): January 13th 1978-March 4th 1981***
37.  Edmund G. “Jerry” Brown Jr. (P-CA): March 4th 1981-January 28th 1986*
38. Jesse A. Helms Jr. (P-NC): January 28th 1986-March 4th 1993
39. Elizabeth Holtzman (A-NY): March 4th 1993-March 4th 2001***
40. Winthrop P. Rockefeller (P-AK): March 4th 2001-July 16th 2006*
41. Charles T. “Chuck” Hagel (P-NE): July 16th 2006-March 4th 2009
42. Eric K. Shinseki (A-H): March 4th 2009-???***

Notes.

11. Died in Office.
15. Died in Office due to Typhoid fever.
20. Assassinated by Charles J. Gueiteau.
23. Died in Office due to a massive heart attack.
26. Assassinated by a group of Puerto Rican Nationalists.
29. Died in Office due to complications of a failed Brain Tumor removal surgery.
32. Assassinated by a disgruntled postal worker
34. First President to resign the Office due to Bribery charges
35. First President to win a Third Term, later Died in Office due to bladder cancer
36. First African American President.
37. Assassinated by a crazed Nuclear Freeze advocate.
39. First Jewish and First Female President.
40. Died in office due to leukemia
42. First Japanese American President.

W: OTL Whig Party
D: OTL Democrats
A: American Party intially started as a front for Nativist, Former Whigs, now a Left to Center Party essentially the same as IOTL Democrats.
P: Populist Party, founded in the 1890s which initial support among Agricultural communities, now a Right to Center party essentially the same as OTL Republican Party.