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« Reply #475 on: November 11, 2009, 06:08:14 PM »

A Really Bad Day

(Inspired by Bucky Rea's Bad Day in Camelot. I don't know if I should count the ones on November 22.)

List of presidents
35.  John F. Kennedy (D) January 20, 1961-November 22, 1963
36.  Lyndon Johnson (D) November 22, 1963-November 22, 1963
37.  John McCormack (D) November 22, 1963-November 22, 1963*
38.  Dean Rusk (D) November 22, 1963-November 22, 1963*
39.  Robert Kennedy (D) November 22, 1963-January 20, 1969

40.  Richard Nixon (R) January 20, 1969-August 21, 1974
41.  Hiram Fong (R) August 21, 1974-January 20, 1977*

42.  Jimmy Carter (D) January 20, 1977-January 20, 1981
43.  Robert Dole (R) January 20, 1981-January 20, 1989
44.  Jack Kemp (R) January 20, 1989-January 20, 1993

45.  Mario Cuomo (D) January 20, 1993-January 20, 2001
46.  John McCain (R) January 20, 2001-September 18, 2001*
47.  Jeb Bush (R) July 2, 2001-January 20, 2009

48.  Bill Richardson (D) January 20, 2009-*

1. John F. Kennedy is assassinated as OTL.
2. Lyndon Johnson is killed when Air Force One crashes on takeoff from Dallas.
3. John McCormack suffers a massive heart attack and dies after hearing the news of Johnson's death.
4. After Carl Hayden declines to take over, Rusk is now president...at least until his plane is struck by lightning.
5. Robert Kennedy takes over and wins election in 1964, but Vietnam and the riots of the 1960s doom his reelection election.
6. First Asian American president.
7. Killed in the 9/18 attacks.
8. First Mexican-American president.
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« Reply #476 on: November 11, 2009, 07:47:50 PM »

The Great Depression and the End of Freedom:

William H. Murray (OK) (Democrat) 1933-1941
Harry F. Byrd Sr (VA) (Democrat) 1941-1951*
Richard Russell (GA) (Democrat) 1951-1953

Joseph McCarthy (WI) (Republican) 1953-1961
Strom Thurmond (SC) (Democratic) 1961-1963*
Harry Byrd Jr. (VA) (Democratic) 1963-1969
George Wallace (AL) (Democratic) 1969-1972*
George Smathers (FL) (Democratic) 1972-1973

Barry Goldwater (AZ) (Republican) 1973-1975*
John Ashbrook (OH) (Republican) 1975-1977

Jesse Helms (NC) (Democratic) 1977-1980 (United America Party) 1980-1981*
John Schmitz (CA) (United America Party) 1981-1989
Jerry Falwell (VA) (United America Party) 1989-1994*
Pat Buchanan (VA) (United America Party) 1994-2005*
James Inhofe (OK) (United America Party) 2005-Present


*Assasination

In 1929 the Great Depression occured, causing millions and millions of people to lose their homes. Many had lost all hope, having no one to turn to. As a result many turned against each other, they blamed their fellow man for the hell that wrought them. Which is why in 1933 Oklahoma Governor William Murray beat the liberal Franklin Delano Roosevelt for the Democratic nomination for president. One of Murray's first acts as president was to further and further segregate the federal government, a process begun under President Woodrow Wilson arguing that it was the "negro effect" that had caused the Great Depression. As the Depression worsens he raises racial fears among the white majority against the minorities, arguing that it should be on the white man's terms that they should live in this land. Thus began the death of freedom and sanity in America. As the years went by more and more tyrannical laws were passed by Congress limiting freedom of expression and the right to vote. The Democratic Party had become the party of super racist bigot segregationists and the Republican Party had become the party of super power hungry corporate militarists obsessed with the idea of American Empire. Not a freedom lover was to be found among the two party oligarchy of America. But the people were not blind to this climate of evil, as throughout the age many attempted assasination attempts against the would be dictators, it should be noted that in the last half of the 20th century more presidents were assasinated than all of the previous eras combined.
However, freedom it seemed was forever doomed as in 1980 the two party system dissolved itself into one party as the Democrats and Republicans united into the United America Party in their mission to "Unite the White American Race in it's mission to establish a powerful empire like none other on this earth". At first they began with the children, establishing a National Youth Corps, and then things went to sh*t. First they deported all the minorities to secluded parts of the country, specifically in the Mountain West. Later on as they gained more and more control they started throwing people into "internment camps" to make room for White American settlements in the region, and then lastly there was extermination!
Now here we are in 2009, 80 full years since the Great Depression only to find that we are indeed still in a Great Depression of freedom!
Take up arms my brothers and sisters and let us usher in a new era!!!!!!
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« Reply #477 on: November 13, 2009, 02:48:44 PM »

Here's a really short list I just whipped up...Thought it could be fairly promising for a future timeline.

A Game of Inches

42. William J. “Bill” Clinton (D-AK): January 20th 1993-October 29th 1994*
43. Albert A. “Al” Gore Jr. (D-TN): October 29th 1994-January 20th 2001
44. Douglas Wilder (D-VA): January 20th 2001-January 20th 2005**

45. John R. Kasich (R-OH): January 20th 2005-January 20th 2013
46. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-IL): January 20th 2013-???**

Notes.

42. Assassinated by Duran in the White House via semi-automatic Rifle fire.
44. First African American President
46. First Female President.
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« Reply #478 on: November 13, 2009, 04:47:36 PM »
« Edited: November 13, 2009, 05:50:01 PM by Mechaman »

Reagan Assasination!:

40. Ronald Reagan (Republican-CA) January 20th, 1981-March 31st, 1981
41. George HW Bush (Republican-TX) March 31st, 1981-January 20th, 1989
42. Gary Hart (Democratic-CO) January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1993
43. Jack Kemp (Republican-NY) January 20th, 1993-January 20th, 2001
44. Thomas Daschle (Democratic-SD) January 20th, 2001-January 20th, 2009
45. Charlie Crist (Republican-FL) January 20th, 2009-present
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« Reply #479 on: November 13, 2009, 05:39:57 PM »
« Edited: November 13, 2009, 08:45:26 PM by Sarah and Mike in 2012 »

43. George W. Bush (R) / Dick Cheney (R) : 2001-2009 *
44. Barack Obama (D) / Joe Biden (D) : 2009-2013 *
45. Sarah Palin (C) / Bobby Jindal (C) : 2013-2021*
46. Chelsea Clinton (L) / Galvin Newsom (L) : 2025-2031*



43. Last GOP President
44. Last Democrat President
45. First Conservative Party President, First Female President, First Hindu-turned-Catholic
46. First Liberal Party President
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« Reply #480 on: November 13, 2009, 05:46:54 PM »


Was Charles Curtis.
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« Reply #481 on: November 13, 2009, 08:44:05 PM »

43. George W. Bush (R) / Dick Cheney (R) : 2001-2009 *
44. Barack Obama (D) / Joe Biden (D) : 2009-2013 *
45. Sarah Palin (C) / Bobby Jindal (C) : 2013-2025*
46. Chelsea Clinton (L) / Galvin Newsom (L) : 2025-2031*



43. Last GOP President
44. Last Democrat President
45. First Conservative Party President, First Female President, First Hindu-turned-Catholic
46. First Liberal Party President

The US Constitution limits a President to two terms.
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« Reply #482 on: November 13, 2009, 10:25:22 PM »

43. George W. Bush (R) / Dick Cheney (R) : 2001-2009 *
44. Barack Obama (D) / Joe Biden (D) : 2009-2013 *
45. Sarah Palin (C) / Bobby Jindal (C) : 2013-2025*
46. Chelsea Clinton (L) / Galvin Newsom (L) : 2025-2031*



43. Last GOP President
44. Last Democrat President
45. First Conservative Party President, First Female President, First Hindu-turned-Catholic
46. First Liberal Party President

The US Constitution limits a President to two terms.

not 4 Sarah Palin, u stupid librul. Purple heart palin 4 eva
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« Reply #483 on: November 13, 2009, 10:35:55 PM »

43. George W. Bush (R) / Dick Cheney (R) : 2001-2009 *
44. Barack Obama (D) / Joe Biden (D) : 2009-2013 *
45. Sarah Palin (C) / Bobby Jindal (C) : 2013-2025*
46. Chelsea Clinton (L) / Galvin Newsom (L) : 2025-2031*



43. Last GOP President
44. Last Democrat President
45. First Conservative Party President, First Female President, First Hindu-turned-Catholic
46. First Liberal Party President

The US Constitution limits a President to two terms.

not 4 Sarah Palin, u stupid librul. Purple heart palin 4 eva

yea gz67 u stuepid librul, palin protected bi hol-e gost and iz sopported bi Jezus Crist and gOd. Palin cannot bee defeeted!
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« Reply #484 on: November 14, 2009, 04:45:01 AM »

Another completely alternate presidents list from Mechaman:

1. John Hancock (MA) (No Party)/Samuel Huntington (CT) (Federalist) 1789-1793
2. Samuel Huntington (CT)/Benjamin Lincoln (MA) (Federalist) 1793-1796*
3. Benjamin Lincoln (MA) (Federalist) 1796-1797

4. Thomas Jefferson (VA) (Democratic-Republican)/Thomas Pinckney (SC) (Federalist) 1797-1801/Aaron Burr (NY) (Democratic-Republican) 1801-1805
5. Aaron Burr (NY)/John Breckinridge (KY) (Democratic-Republican) 1805*
6. John Breckenridge (KY) (Democratic-Republican) 1805-1806*
7. Samuel Smith (MD) (Democratic-Republican) 1806-1809*
8. George Clinton (NY)/James Monroe (VA) (Democratic-Republican) 1809-1812*
9. James Monroe (VA) 1812-1813/John Quincy Adams (MA) (Democratic-Republican) 1813-1821
10. John Quincy Adams (MA)/Andrew Jackson (TN) (Democratic-Republican) 1821-1825
11. Nathaniel Macon (NC)/Nathan Sanford (NY) (Democratic-Republican) 1825-1828
(Democratic) 1828-1829
12. Henry Clay (KY)/Richard Rush (PA) (National Republican) 1829-1833
13. William Wirt (MD)/Amos Ellmaker (PA) (Anti-Masonic) 1833-1837
14. John C. Calhoun (SC)/John Floyd (VA) (Nullifier) 1837-1841
15. William Henry Harrison (OH)/Daniel Webster (MA) (Whig) 1841*
16. Daniel Webster (MA) (Whig) 1841-1845

17. John Fairfield (ME)/Lewis Cass (MI) (Democratic) 1845-1847*
18. Lewis Cass (MI) 1847-1849 (Democratic) 1847-1849

19. Martin Van Buren (NY)/Charles F. Adams Sr. (MA) (Free Soil) 1849-1857
20. Milliard Fillmore (NY)/Andrew J. Donelson (TN) (Know Nothing Party) 1857-1861
21. Samuel Houston (TX)/John Bell (TN) (Constitutional Union) 1861-1863*
22. John Bell (TN) (Constitutional Union) 1863-1865

23. John C. Fremont (CA)/Schuyler Colfax (IN) (Republican) 1865-1873
24. Benjamin B. Gratz (MO)/Jacob D. Cox (OH) (Liberal Republican) 1873-1877
25. Samuel J. Tilden (NY)/Thomas A. Hendricks (IN) (Democratic) 1877-1885
26. Chester A. Arthur (VT)/John A. Logan (IL) (Republican) 1885-1886*
27. John A. Logan (IL) (Republican) 1886*

28. James G. Blaine (ME) (Republican) 1886-1889
29. Grover Cleveland (NY)/Adlai E. Stevenson I (IL) (Democratic) 1889-1893
30. James Weaver (IA)/James Gaven Field (VA) (Populist) 1893-1897
31. John McAuley Palmer (IL)/William Vilas (WI) (National Democratic) 1897-1900
32. William Vilas (WI) 1900-1901/Alton B. Parker (NY) (National Democratic) 1901-1908
33. Alton B. Parker (NY) 1908-1909/George Turner (WA) (National Democratic) 1909-1913

34. Eugene V. Debs (IN)/Emil Seidel (WI) (Socialist) 1913-1921
35. Robert M. LaFollette Sr. (WI)/Hiram Johnson (CA) (Progressive) 1921-1925
36. William E. Borah (ID)/Franklin D. Roosevelt (NY) (Progressive) 1925-1929
37. Franklin D. Roosevelt (NY)/Burton K. Wheeler (MT) (Progressive) 1929-1933

38. Norman Thomas (NY)/Robert M. LaFollette Jr. (WI) (Socialist) 1933-1941
39. Robert M. LaFollette Jr. (WI)/Henrik Shipstead (MN) (Socialist) 1941-1949

40. Earl Warren (CA)/Harold Stassen (MN) (Progressive Republican) 1949-1950*
41. Harold Stassen (MN) 1950-1953/Henry Cabot Lodge (MA) (Progressive Republican) 1953-1957

42. George Aiken (VT)/Nelson Rockefeller (NY) (Progressive Republican) 1957-1961
43. Mike Mansfield (MT)/Stewart Udall (AZ) (Social Democratic) 1961-1963*
44. Stewart Udall (AZ) 1963-1965/Eugene McCarthy (MN) (Social Democratic) 1965-1969
45. George Romney (MI)/Edward M. Brooke (MA) (Progressive Republican) 1969-1972*
46. Edward M. Brooke (MA) 1972-1973/John Chafee (RI) (Progressive Republican) 1973-1977

47. Frank Church (ID)/Fred Harris (OK) (Social Democratic) 1977-1981
48. Ed Clark (CA)/Ray Hutchison (TX) (Liberal Democratic) 1981*
49. Ray Hutchison (TX)/Gary Hart (CO) (Liberal Democratic) 1981-1989
50. Gary Hart (CO)/William J. Clinton (AR) (Liberal Democratic) 1989-1993

51. Patrick Buchanan (VA)/Danforth Quayle (IN) (Nationalist) 1993-1997
52. Jerry Brown (CA)/Steve Forbes (NJ) (Liberal Democratic) 1997-2001
53. Howard Dean (VT)/Russ Feingold (WI) (Social Democratic) 2001-2005
54. John McCain (AZ)/Lincoln Chafee (RI) (Progessive Republican) 2005-2009
55. Steven Kubby (CA)/Mary Ruwart (TX) (Liberal Democratic) 2009-present

* will be explained later when I has more sleep and am not gettin with the ladies (believe me, I'm going to be VERY busy), so expect explanations on say Sunday night.
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« Reply #485 on: November 16, 2009, 05:38:54 PM »

Ok here's a recap list I recently made for my pal Maverick over on the Alternate history Discussion Board... You can read it here: http://alternatehistory.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=64050&highlight=Joseph+Patrick+Kennedy . It's based on the POD on What if Joe Jr. did survive WWII


Kings of Camelot: POTUS List

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY): March 4th 1933-April 12th 1945*
33. Harry S. Truman (D-MO): April 12th 1945-January 20th 1953

34. Dwight D. Eisenhower (R-NY): January 20th 1953-January 20th 1961
35. Richard M. “Dick” Nixon (R-CA): January 20th 1961-January 20th 1965
APOTUS: Henry C. Lodge Jr. (R-MA): November 18th-January 18th 1964***

36. Joseph P. “Joe” Kennedy Jr. (D-MA): January 20th 1965-January 20th 1973**
37. John F. “Jack” Kennedy (D-MA): January 20th 1973-April 11th 1974*
38. George S. McGovern (D-SD): April 11th 1974-January 20th 1977

39. Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA): January 20th 1977-January 20th 1985
40. Lloyd M. Bentsen (D-TX): January 20th 1985-January 20th 1993
41. John Glenn (D-OH): January 20th 1993-January 20th 1997

42. Richard G. “Dick” Lugar (R-IN): January 20th 1997-January 20th 2005
43. Joseph P. “Joe” Kennedy III (D-MA): January 20th 2005-January 20th 2009**
44. Elizabeth H. “Liddy” Dole (R-KA): January 20th 2009-???**

Notes

32. Died in Office as IOTL
APOTUS: Served as Acting President, while Nixon recovered from his wounds from his Attempted Assassination.
36. First Roman Catholic Irish-American President
37. Died in Office due to complications of Addison’s disease
43. First Son of a President to be elected to the White House since John Quincy Adams
44. First Female President.

Kings of Camelot: VEEP List

33. Henry A. Wallace (D-IA): January 20th 1941-January 20th 1945
34. Harry S. Truman (D-MO): January 20th-April 12th 1945

Vacant: April 12th 1945-January 20th 1949
35. Alben W. Barkley (D-KY): January 20th 1949-January 20th 1953
36. Richard M. “Dick” Nixon (R-CA): January 20th 1953-January 20th 1961
37. Henry C. Lodge Jr. (R-MA): January 20th 1961-January 20th 1965

38. J. William Fullbright (D-AK): January 20th 1965-January 20th 1973
39. George S. McGovern (D-SD): January 20th 1973-April 11th 1974

Vacant: April 12th-May 30th 1974.
40. James E. “Jimmy” Carter (D-GA): April 11th 1974-January 20th 1977
41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX): January 20th 1977-January 20th 1985
42. John Glenn (D-OH): January 20th 1985-January 20th 1993
43. Larry Agran (D-CA): January 20th 1993-January 20th 1997

44. John E. “Jeb” Bush (R-FL): January 20th 1997-January 20th 2005
45. James E. “Jim” Clyburn (D-SC): January 20th 2005-January 20th 2009**
46. Anthony C. “The Godfather” Zinni (R-PA): January 20th 2009-???

Notes

45. First African American Vice President

Kings of Camelot: Defeated Tickets

1944: Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/John Bricker (R-OH)
1948: Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/Earl Warren (R-CA)
1952: Adlai E. Stevenson II (D-IL)/John Sparkman (D-AL)
1956: Adlai E. Stevenson II (D-IL)/Joseph P. “Joe” Kennedy Jr. (D-MA)
1960: Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN)/Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX)
1964: Barry M. Goldwater (R-AZ)/William W. Scranton (R-PA)
1968: Nelson A. Rockefeller (R-NY)/Cecil H. Underwood (R-WV) ; George Wallace (I-AL)/Herman E. Talmadge (I-GA)
1972: William P. Scranton (R-PA)/Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA) ; George Wallace (IA-AL)/Roman Hruska (IA-NE)
1976: George S. McGovern (D-SD)/James E. “Jimmy” Carter (D-GA)
1980: Robert F. “Bobby” Kennedy (D-MA)/Lloyd M. Bentsen (D-TX)
1984: George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Jack F. Kemp (R-NY)
1988: Robert J. “Bob” Dole (R-KA)/Marion G. “Pat” Robertson (R-VA)
1992: Marion G. “Pat” Robertson (R-VA)/George Deukmejian (R-CA)
1996: John Glenn (D-OH)/Larry Agran (D-CA)
2000: Joseph P. Kennedy III (D-MA)/Daniel R. “Bob” Grahan (D-FL)
2004: John E. “Jeb” Bush (R-FL)/George E. Pataki (R-NY)
2008: Joseph P. Kennedy III (D-MA)/James E. “Jim” Clyburn (D-SC)

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« Reply #486 on: November 16, 2009, 06:16:42 PM »


Yes, thanks for revealing presidential list before you really started your TL Tongue
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« Reply #487 on: November 17, 2009, 04:12:57 PM »

While I hate this crappy TV series (only character worth to watch is the one played by Donald Sutherland), there's a hypothetical RL commander-in-chief:

43rd: George W. Bush (R-TX), 2001-2009
44th: Pete Wilson (R-CA), 2009-2010
45th: Olympia Snowe (I-ME), 2010-present

With lack of good candidated for Bridges role, I go with Wilson, and with a lack of good candidate for Republican-Turned-Independent Allen I go with Snowe.

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« Reply #488 on: November 17, 2009, 06:02:54 PM »


Yes, thanks for revealing presidential list before you really started your TL Tongue

How do you think I get most of my What-If ideas?
Staring at a wall? Sniffing glue?
No, it usually starts out with a list of alternate presidents.
Usually that's how I get the idea for the story, however the presidents (once I start writing the actual timeline) are subject to change.
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« Reply #489 on: November 17, 2009, 11:02:14 PM »

READ MY LIPS. NO NEW TARIFFS.

POD: President Hoover vetoes the Smoot-Hawley Tariff (no stock market crash and no Great Depression)

31. Herbert Hoover (R-CA): 1929-1937
32. Newton Baker (D-OH): 1937
33. Huey P. Long (D-LA): 1937-1940
34. William Bankhead (D-AL): 1940
35. Samuel T. Rayburn (D-TX): 1940-1941

36. Theodore Roosevelt Jr. (R-NY): 1941-1943
37. William H. Vanderbilt III (R-RI): 1943-1949

38. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY): 1949-1952
39. Albert “Happy” Chandler (D-KY): 1952-1961

40. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ): 1961-1963
41. Earl Warren (R-CA): 1963-1969

42. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX): 1969-1972
43. John F. Kennedy (D-MA): 1972-1974
44. James Allen (D-AL): 1974-1977

45. Barry Goldwater, Jr. (R-CA): 1977-1985
46. James Holshouser (R-NC): 1985-1989

47. David McCurdy (D-OK): 1989-1995
48. J. James Exon (D-NE): 1995-1997

49. John McCain (R-AZ): 1997-2005
50. Benjamin Chandler (D-KY): 2005-Current



Notes:
32. Died in office on December 25, 1937

33. First impeached President removed from office by Senate vote on corruption charges, July 2, 1940

34. Advances to Presidency from Speaker of the House. Died September 15, 1940

35. Speaker of the House and candidate for re-election to his Congressional District when President Bankhead died; returned to Speaker’s chair after completing his 4 months as President.

36. Died of heart attack on November 24, 1943

37. Vice President and former Rhode Island Governor (1939-1941) celebrated his 41st birthday when he learned the news of Roosevelt’s death. Youngest to become POTUS

38. FDR was Governor of New York (1929-1935) and US Senator (1935-1949), becoming Senate Majority Leader when Democrats won back control of Congress in the 1946 elections. As President, FDR continued Vanderbilt doctrine of Lend Lease to countries fighting Communist rebellions. As a result, the French captured Marxist Ho Chi Minh and defeated the Communists in Vietnam, Chiang Kai Shek and the Nationalists won the Chinese Civil War, and Korea was united after Kim Il Sung’s compound was destroyed by hydrogen bombs. Roosevelt would enjoy 60 percent job approval ratings entering 1952 but the stress of fighting the Cold War took its toll and he suffered a fatal stroke on March 14, 1952.

40. Assassinated November 22, 1963 in San Francisco. President Goldwater traveled to California to raise money for the Republicans. The GOP was caught in a tug of war between its conservative wing led by Governor William Knowland and liberal wing led by San Francisco Mayor George Christopher.

41. Warren’s legacy as President was the numerous anti-poverty legislation and creation of Social Security for the elderly, which was opposed by conservatives. But his failure to defeat Communist rebels in Cuba resulted in his decision not to seek reelection in 1968.

42. Once LBJ was sworn in as POTUS, he did what Warren would not do in Cuba. After withdrawing 10,000 Marines from Cuba, Johnson dropped hydrogen and napalm bombs on the Sierra Maestre Valley where the Commies had their headquarters. The bombs killed over 20,000 people (mostly innocent civilians) including Ernesto “Che” Guevara and brothers Fidel and Raul Castro. The remaining Communists surrendered and the war was over. In 1972, Johnson would defeat former Vice President Nelson Rockefeller in a 49 state landslide. While celebrating Christmas at his ranch in Texas and preparing for his second term, LBJ suffered a fatal heart attack.

43. First Roman Catholic President. Died of complications from Addison’s Disease on August 8, 1974

47. Inaugurated at the age of 37, making him the youngest POTUS to date. Killed during bombing of Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995

48. Did not run for POTUS in 1996 and retired.
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« Reply #490 on: November 18, 2009, 02:53:45 AM »
« Edited: November 18, 2009, 03:00:15 AM by George W. Hobbes »

Neocon Democrats

POD: Henry Jackson is elected President in 1976, and what we refer to as neoconservatism becomes a tenet of the Left, leading to a 'neolibertarian' Democratic Party and a populistic Republican Party.  On Jackson's coattails, Elmo Zumwalt is elected to the Senate from Virginia in 1976.

39. Henry "Scoop" Jackson/Jimmy Carter (D): 1977-1985
40. Jimmy Carter/Elmo Zumwalt (D): 1985-1989
41. H. Ross Perot/Bob Dole (R) 1989-1993
42. Bill Clinton/R. James Woolsey (D) 1993-2001
43. Lou Dobbs/Dana Rohrabacher (R) 2001-2005
44. Joe Lieberman/Tom Ridge (D) 2005-Present.
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« Reply #491 on: November 18, 2009, 03:54:38 PM »

Neocon Democrats

POD: Henry Jackson is elected President in 1976, and what we refer to as neoconservatism becomes a tenet of the Left, leading to a 'neolibertarian' Democratic Party and a populistic Republican Party.  On Jackson's coattails, Elmo Zumwalt is elected to the Senate from Virginia in 1976.

39. Henry "Scoop" Jackson/Jimmy Carter (D): 1977-1985
40. Jimmy Carter/Elmo Zumwalt (D): 1985-1989
41. H. Ross Perot/Bob Dole (R) 1989-1993
42. Bill Clinton/R. James Woolsey (D) 1993-2001
43. Lou Dobbs/Dana Rohrabacher (R) 2001-2005
44. Joe Lieberman/Tom Ridge (D) 2005-Present.

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« Reply #492 on: November 19, 2009, 01:11:04 PM »

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33. Harry S. Truman (D-MO): April 12th 1945-January 20th 1953
34. Earl Warren (R-CA): January 20th 1953-January 20th 1961
35. Robert C. Byrd (D-WV): January 20th 1961-January 20th 1965
36. George W. Romney (R-MI): January 20th 1965-January 20th 1973**
37. Abraham A. Ribicoff (D-CT): January 20th 1973-January 20th 1981**
38. Edward W. Brooke III (R-MA): January 20th 1981-January 20th 1989**
39. John B. Anderson (R-IL): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1993

40. Paul E. Tsongas (D-MA): January 20th 1993-January 18th 1995*
41. Joan Finney (D-KA): January 18th 1995-January 20th 2001**

42. Henry G. Cisneros (R-TX): January 20th 2001-January 20th 2005**
43. Johnny R. “John” Edwards (D-NC): January 20th 2005-August 1st 2010***
44. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (D-NY): August 1st 2010-January 20th 2013***

45. Matthew K. L. Fong (R-CA): January 20th 2013-???**

Notes.

36. First Mormon President
37. First Jewish American President
38. First African American President
40. First Greek-American President whom died in office due to complications non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma.
41. First Female/Roman Catholic President
42. First Mexican American President
43. First to resign the Presidency, due to personal scandals
44. First Irish American President
45. First Chinese American President
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« Reply #493 on: November 19, 2009, 05:01:06 PM »

Conservatism stays Democratic

29. Warren Harding (R-OH) / Herbert Hoover (R-KS) : 1921-1925 *
30. Robert M. La Follette, Sr. (R-WI) / Burton Wheeler (R-MT) : 1925-1933

31. Calvin Coolidge (D-MD) / Elmer Thomas (D-OK) : 1933-1941
32. Elmer Thomas (D-OK) / Millard Tydings (D-MD) : 1941-1945 *
33. Millard Tydings (D-MD) / Dwight Eisenhower (D-KS) : 1945-1953
34. Richard Nixon (R-CA) / Lyndon Johnson (R-NE) : 1953-1955 **
35. Lyndon Johnson (R-NE) / James Glenn Beall (R-MD) : 1955-1965 *
36. John S. McCain Junior (D-CA) / Al Gore Senior (D-TN) : 1965-1971**
37. Al Gore Senior (D-TN) / Henry "Scoop" Jackson (D-WA) : 1971-1977
38. Jimmy Carter (R-GA) / Hubert Humphrey (R-MN) : 1977-1981
39. Ronald Reagan (D-CA) / Jack Kemp (D-NY) : 1981-1989
40. Jack Kemp (D-NY) / Chic Hecht (D-NV) : 1989-1993
41. Ted Kennedy (R-NY) / John Kerry (R-MA) : 1993-2001
42. Al Gore Junior (D-TN) / George W. Bush (D-TX) : 2001-2009
43. Hillary Rodham Ford (R-NJ) / Barack Obama (R-IL) : 2009-current

29th : Only President to get successfully primaried.
30th : Thomas retires becuase of getting cancer, but the 80% Approval-rating President was intending to run.
34th : Nixon killed in Dallas, Texas by Conservative Wacko
35th : LBJ  passes Civil Rights bills in 1956, Segregation ends in 1957. Term limits created
36th : McCain dies of natural causes

 
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« Reply #494 on: November 20, 2009, 12:14:21 AM »

"We Must and We Will..."
A list based on the alternate history story "Must and Shall". Without further ado, a slice of Radical Republicanism Dystopia, USA.

16. Abraham Lincoln (R-IL) 1861-1864*
17. Hannibal Hamlin (R-ME) 1864-1869
18. John C. Fremont (R-CA) 1869-1877
19. Benjamin Butler (R-MA) 1877-1879*
20. Lyman Trumbull (R-IL) 1879-1881**
21. Frederick Douglass (R-NY) 1881-1883*
22. Thomas W. Ferry (R-MI) 1883-1885
23. William T. Sherman (R-OH) 1885-1891**
24. James G. Blaine (R-ME) 1891-1893**
25. William B. Allison (R-IA) 1893-1897
26. David Palmer (ND-IL) 1897-1900*
27. James H. Kyle (ND-DA) 1900-1908**
28. Charles A. Towne (ND-MN) 1908-1909
29. Robert M. La Follette (R-WI) 1909-1917
30. Joseph G. Cannon (R-IL) 1917-1923**
31. Hiram Johnson (R-CA) 1923-1925
32. Robert M. La Follette (NR-WI) 1925**
33. George W. Norris (NR-NE) 1925-1929
34. Hugh L. Nichols (ND-OH) 1929-1937
35. Fiorello H. La Guardia (R-NY) 1937-1946**
36. Charles P. Taft II (R-OH) 1946-1953
37. Andrew F. Schoeppel (R-KS) 1953-1957
38. Adlai Stevenson II (ND-IL) 1957-1964*
39. Johnston Murray (ND-SQ) 1964-1965
40. Hubert H. Humphrey (R-MN) 1965-1973
41. Adlai Stevenson III (ND-IL) 1973-1977
42. Hubert H. Humphrey (R-MN) 1977-1978**
43. John Culver (R-IA) 1978-1981
44. Rudy Perpich (R-MN) 1981-1989
45. Ed Koch (R-NY) 1989-1993
46. Larry Agran (ND/NU-CA) 1993-1995*
47. G. John Humphrey (R/NU-NH) 1995*
48. Ralph Nader (R-CT) 1995-1997
49. N. Augustus McPherson (R-PA) 1997-Present

*Assassinated in office
**Died of natural causes in office
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« Reply #495 on: November 20, 2009, 11:53:23 AM »

"We Must and We Will..."
A list based on the alternate history story "Must and Shall". Without further ado, a slice of Radical Republicanism Dystopia, USA.

16. Abraham Lincoln (R-IL) 1861-1864*
17. Hannibal Hamlin (R-ME) 1864-1869
18. John C. Fremont (R-CA) 1869-1877
19. Benjamin Butler (R-MA) 1877-1879*
20. Lyman Trumbull (R-IL) 1879-1881**
21. Frederick Douglass (R-NY) 1881-1883*
22. Thomas W. Ferry (R-MI) 1883-1885
23. William T. Sherman (R-OH) 1885-1891**
24. James G. Blaine (R-ME) 1891-1893**
25. William B. Allison (R-IA) 1893-1897
26. David Palmer (ND-IL) 1897-1900*
27. James H. Kyle (ND-DA) 1900-1908**
28. Charles A. Towne (ND-MN) 1908-1909
29. Robert M. La Follette (R-WI) 1909-1917
30. Joseph G. Cannon (R-IL) 1917-1923**
31. Hiram Johnson (R-CA) 1923-1925
32. Robert M. La Follette (NR-WI) 1925**
33. George W. Norris (NR-NE) 1925-1929
34. Hugh L. Nichols (ND-OH) 1929-1937
35. Fiorello H. La Guardia (R-NY) 1937-1946**
36. Charles P. Taft II (R-OH) 1946-1953
37. Andrew F. Schoeppel (R-KS) 1953-1957
38. Adlai Stevenson II (ND-IL) 1957-1964*
39. Johnston Murray (ND-SQ) 1964-1965
40. Hubert H. Humphrey (R-MN) 1965-1973
41. Adlai Stevenson III (ND-IL) 1973-1977
42. Hubert H. Humphrey (R-MN) 1977-1978**
43. John Culver (R-IA) 1978-1981
44. Rudy Perpich (R-MN) 1981-1989
45. Ed Koch (R-NY) 1989-1993
46. Larry Agran (ND/NU-CA) 1993-1995*
47. G. John Humphrey (R/NU-NH) 1995*
48. Ralph Nader (R-CT) 1995-1997
49. N. Augustus McPherson (R-PA) 1997-Present

*Assassinated in office
**Died of natural causes in office

Era of good feelings 2.0?
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« Reply #496 on: November 20, 2009, 12:16:18 PM »

Radical Republicanism Dystopia, USA.

16. Abraham Lincoln (R-IL) 1861-1864*
17. Hannibal Hamlin (R-ME) 1864-1869
18. John C. Fremont (R-CA) 1869-1877
19. Benjamin Butler (R-MA) 1877-1879*
20. Lyman Trumbull (R-IL) 1879-1881**
21. Frederick Douglass (R-NY) 1881-1883*
22. Thomas W. Ferry (R-MI) 1883-1885
23. William T. Sherman (R-OH) 1885-1891**
24. James G. Blaine (R-ME) 1891-1893**
25. William B. Allison (R-IA) 1893-1897
26. David Palmer (ND-IL) 1897-1900*
27. James H. Kyle (ND-DA) 1900-1908**
28. Charles A. Towne (ND-MN) 1908-1909
29. Robert M. La Follette (R-WI) 1909-1917
30. Joseph G. Cannon (R-IL) 1917-1923**
31. Hiram Johnson (R-CA) 1923-1925
32. Robert M. La Follette (NR-WI) 1925**
33. George W. Norris (NR-NE) 1925-1929
34. Hugh L. Nichols (ND-OH) 1929-1937
35. Fiorello H. La Guardia (R-NY) 1937-1946**
36. Charles P. Taft II (R-OH) 1946-1953
37. Andrew F. Schoeppel (R-KS) 1953-1957
38. Adlai Stevenson II (ND-IL) 1957-1964*
39. Johnston Murray (ND-SQ) 1964-1965
40. Hubert H. Humphrey (R-MN) 1965-1973
41. Adlai Stevenson III (ND-IL) 1973-1977
42. Hubert H. Humphrey (R-MN) 1977-1978**
43. John Culver (R-IA) 1978-1981
44. Rudy Perpich (R-MN) 1981-1989
45. Ed Koch (R-NY) 1989-1993
46. Larry Agran (ND/NU-CA) 1993-1995*
47. G. John Humphrey (R/NU-NH) 1995*
48. Ralph Nader (R-CT) 1995-1997
49. N. Augustus McPherson (R-PA) 1997-Present

*Assassinated in office
**Died of natural causes in office


How is that dystopia?
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« Reply #497 on: November 20, 2009, 01:25:48 PM »

Radical Republicanism Dystopia, USA.

16. Abraham Lincoln (R-IL) 1861-1864*
17. Hannibal Hamlin (R-ME) 1864-1869
18. John C. Fremont (R-CA) 1869-1877
19. Benjamin Butler (R-MA) 1877-1879*
20. Lyman Trumbull (R-IL) 1879-1881**
21. Frederick Douglass (R-NY) 1881-1883*
22. Thomas W. Ferry (R-MI) 1883-1885
23. William T. Sherman (R-OH) 1885-1891**
24. James G. Blaine (R-ME) 1891-1893**
25. William B. Allison (R-IA) 1893-1897
26. David Palmer (ND-IL) 1897-1900*
27. James H. Kyle (ND-DA) 1900-1908**
28. Charles A. Towne (ND-MN) 1908-1909
29. Robert M. La Follette (R-WI) 1909-1917
30. Joseph G. Cannon (R-IL) 1917-1923**
31. Hiram Johnson (R-CA) 1923-1925
32. Robert M. La Follette (NR-WI) 1925**
33. George W. Norris (NR-NE) 1925-1929
34. Hugh L. Nichols (ND-OH) 1929-1937
35. Fiorello H. La Guardia (R-NY) 1937-1946**
36. Charles P. Taft II (R-OH) 1946-1953
37. Andrew F. Schoeppel (R-KS) 1953-1957
38. Adlai Stevenson II (ND-IL) 1957-1964*
39. Johnston Murray (ND-SQ) 1964-1965
40. Hubert H. Humphrey (R-MN) 1965-1973
41. Adlai Stevenson III (ND-IL) 1973-1977
42. Hubert H. Humphrey (R-MN) 1977-1978**
43. John Culver (R-IA) 1978-1981
44. Rudy Perpich (R-MN) 1981-1989
45. Ed Koch (R-NY) 1989-1993
46. Larry Agran (ND/NU-CA) 1993-1995*
47. G. John Humphrey (R/NU-NH) 1995*
48. Ralph Nader (R-CT) 1995-1997
49. N. Augustus McPherson (R-PA) 1997-Present

*Assassinated in office
**Died of natural causes in office


How is that dystopia?
Well in the beginning Presidents of the list, they are fairly balanced, but in the coming presidents that I couldn't specify but with radical republicanism in power, it sends shockwaves through the nation, the moderates in the Republican party loose their fight against the Radicals. Humphrey isn't OTL Humphrey, he's somewhat like Nixon, some wiretapping, spying on the other party and power corrupts him quite a bit to the point he wanted to continue to run but his death in 1978 only stopped that. His "lackey's" are elected after his death as the US becomes more and more "undemocratic" as a ever powerful and ever growing fanaticism in the Radical Republicans has a solid grip on the nation.

It's only when Agran is elected on a National Unity ticket is there some hope of a true two party nation, but both Agran and G. J. Humphrey is assassinated, some allegations put it with radical republican support. With that, it ushers in Nader, who would serve out Agran/G. J. Humphrey's term. After that, Newton Augustus McPherson would rise to power on a mound of charisma, fiery spirit and nationalism and would be elected in 1996, reelected in 2000, 2004 and 2008 and would be talked about running again in 2012 and beyond. Under McPherson, there's is a much stricter electoral commission, usually disqualifying more popular candidates that want to run against McPherson and showing in 2008, there is practically no opponents.

McPherson also gives evermore aid to the massive "Church of Lincoln-ism" and continues the occupation of the former Confederate states. McPherson also would whip the nation into a fierce nationalistic fervor against the whole "Cold War" against Brazil and it's allies. So basically the moderates are defeated, the Democrats and the National Democrats collapse as corruption grows and grows in the Republican Party, to the point that it begins to erode the liberties the US was founded on, only to be replaced by boogieman fear and nationalistic fervor and hate for non "True Democratic Believers" and a mounting undemocratic system.

(Yes I know that this is probably hackish but just wanted to have some wonky fun)
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« Reply #498 on: November 20, 2009, 05:04:04 PM »

Conservatism stays Democratic

29. Warren Harding (R-OH) / Herbert Hoover (R-KS) : 1921-1925 *
30. Robert M. La Follette, Sr. (R-WI) / Burton Wheeler (R-MT) : 1925-1933

31. Calvin Coolidge (D-MD) / Elmer Thomas (D-OK) : 1933-1941
32. Elmer Thomas (D-OK) / Millard Tydings (D-MD) : 1941-1945 *
33. Millard Tydings (D-MD) / Dwight Eisenhower (D-KS) : 1945-1953
34. Richard Nixon (R-CA) / Lyndon Johnson (R-NE) : 1953-1955 **
35. Lyndon Johnson (R-NE) / James Glenn Beall (R-MD) : 1955-1965 *
36. John S. McCain Junior (D-CA) / Al Gore Senior (D-TN) : 1965-1971**
37. Al Gore Senior (D-TN) / Henry "Scoop" Jackson (D-WA) : 1971-1977
38. Jimmy Carter (R-GA) / Hubert Humphrey (R-MN) : 1977-1981
39. Ronald Reagan (D-CA) / Jack Kemp (D-NY) : 1981-1989
40. Jack Kemp (D-NY) / Chic Hecht (D-NV) : 1989-1993
41. Ted Kennedy (R-NY) / John Kerry (R-MA) : 1993-2001
42. Al Gore Junior (D-TN) / George W. Bush (D-TX) : 2001-2009
43. Hillary Rodham Ford (R-NJ) / Barack Obama (R-IL) : 2009-current

29th : Only President to get successfully primaried.
30th : Thomas retires becuase of getting cancer, but the 80% Approval-rating President was intending to run.
34th : Nixon killed in Dallas, Texas by Conservative Wacko
35th : LBJ  passes Civil Rights bills in 1956, Segregation ends in 1957. Term limits created
36th : McCain dies of natural causes

 


I mean, really?
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« Reply #499 on: November 20, 2009, 05:46:31 PM »

Conservatism stays Democratic

29. Warren Harding (R-OH) / Herbert Hoover (R-KS) : 1921-1925 *
30. Robert M. La Follette, Sr. (R-WI) / Burton Wheeler (R-MT) : 1925-1933

31. Calvin Coolidge (D-MD) / Elmer Thomas (D-OK) : 1933-1941
32. Elmer Thomas (D-OK) / Millard Tydings (D-MD) : 1941-1945 *
33. Millard Tydings (D-MD) / Dwight Eisenhower (D-KS) : 1945-1953
34. Richard Nixon (R-CA) / Lyndon Johnson (R-NE) : 1953-1955 **
35. Lyndon Johnson (R-NE) / James Glenn Beall (R-MD) : 1955-1965 *
36. John S. McCain Junior (D-CA) / Al Gore Senior (D-TN) : 1965-1971**
37. Al Gore Senior (D-TN) / Henry "Scoop" Jackson (D-WA) : 1971-1977
38. Jimmy Carter (R-GA) / Hubert Humphrey (R-MN) : 1977-1981
39. Ronald Reagan (D-CA) / Jack Kemp (D-NY) : 1981-1989
40. Jack Kemp (D-NY) / Chic Hecht (D-NV) : 1989-1993
41. Ted Kennedy (R-NY) / John Kerry (R-MA) : 1993-2001
42. Al Gore Junior (D-TN) / George W. Bush (D-TX) : 2001-2009
43. Hillary Rodham Ford (R-NJ) / Barack Obama (R-IL) : 2009-current

29th : Only President to get successfully primaried.
30th : Thomas retires becuase of getting cancer, but the 80% Approval-rating President was intending to run.
34th : Nixon killed in Dallas, Texas by Conservative Wacko
35th : LBJ  passes Civil Rights bills in 1956, Segregation ends in 1957. Term limits created
36th : McCain dies of natural causes

 


I mean, really?

What?
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