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« Reply #800 on: May 06, 2011, 04:36:53 pm »
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A Possible Dewey Defeats Truman List

34. Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/Earl Warren (R-CA) January 20th, 1949-January 20th, 1957
35. Franknlin Roosevelt Jr. (D-NY)/Ernest McFarland (D-AZ) January 20th, 1957-January 20th, 1965
36. Evertt Dirksen (R-IL)/Margaret Chase Smith (R-ME) January 20th, 1965-September 7th, 1969
37. Margaret Chase Smith (R-ME)/vacant September 7th, 1969-January 20th, 1973

38. George Smathers (D-FL)/Robert F Kennedy (D-MA) January 20th, 1973-January 20th, 1981
39. Howard Baker (R-TN)/Clinton Eastwood (R-CA) January 20th, 1981-March 30th, 1981
40. Clinton Eastwood (R-CA)/Robert S Dole (R-KS) March 30th, 1981-January 20th, 1989

41. Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN)/Mario Cuomo (D-NY) January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1997
42. William Weld (R-MA)/Pete Wilson (R-CA) January 20th, 1997-January 20th, 2005
43. Joseph P Kennedy Jr. (D-MA)/James Webb (D-VA) January 20th, 2005-January 20th, 2009
44. Judd Gregg (R-NH)/Gary Johnson (R-NM) January 20th, 2009-Present
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« Reply #801 on: May 06, 2011, 06:05:39 pm »
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A Possible Dewey Defeats Truman List

34. Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/Earl Warren (R-CA) January 20th, 1949-January 20th, 1957
35. Franknlin Roosevelt Jr. (D-NY)/Ernest McFarland (D-AZ) January 20th, 1957-January 20th, 1965
36. Evertt Dirksen (R-IL)/Margaret Chase Smith (R-ME) January 20th, 1965-September 7th, 1969
37. Margaret Chase Smith (R-ME)/vacant September 7th, 1969-January 20th, 1973

38. George Smathers (D-FL)/Robert F Kennedy (D-MA) January 20th, 1973-January 20th, 1981
39. Howard Baker (R-TN)/Clinton Eastwood (R-CA) January 20th, 1981-March 30th, 1981
40. Clinton Eastwood (R-CA)/Robert S Dole (R-KS) March 30th, 1981-January 20th, 1989

41. Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN)/Mario Cuomo (D-NY) January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1997
42. William Weld (R-MA)/Pete Wilson (R-CA) January 20th, 1997-January 20th, 2005
43. Joseph P Kennedy Jr. (D-MA)/James Webb (D-VA) January 20th, 2005-January 20th, 2009
44. Judd Gregg (R-NH)/Gary Johnson (R-NM) January 20th, 2009-Present

wouldn't he be 90 in 2005? 94 in 2009?
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« Reply #802 on: May 06, 2011, 06:46:35 pm »
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A Possible Dewey Defeats Truman List

34. Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/Earl Warren (R-CA) January 20th, 1949-January 20th, 1957
35. Franknlin Roosevelt Jr. (D-NY)/Ernest McFarland (D-AZ) January 20th, 1957-January 20th, 1965
36. Evertt Dirksen (R-IL)/Margaret Chase Smith (R-ME) January 20th, 1965-September 7th, 1969
37. Margaret Chase Smith (R-ME)/vacant September 7th, 1969-January 20th, 1973

38. George Smathers (D-FL)/Robert F Kennedy (D-MA) January 20th, 1973-January 20th, 1981
39. Howard Baker (R-TN)/Clinton Eastwood (R-CA) January 20th, 1981-March 30th, 1981
40. Clinton Eastwood (R-CA)/Robert S Dole (R-KS) March 30th, 1981-January 20th, 1989

41. Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN)/Mario Cuomo (D-NY) January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1997
42. William Weld (R-MA)/Pete Wilson (R-CA) January 20th, 1997-January 20th, 2005
43. Joseph P Kennedy Jr. (D-MA)/James Webb (D-VA) January 20th, 2005-January 20th, 2009
44. Judd Gregg (R-NH)/Gary Johnson (R-NM) January 20th, 2009-Present

wouldn't he be 90 in 2005? 94 in 2009?

Oh, sorry, I meant "II". Apparently, even though there were three Joe Kennedys (#3 was Robert's son), the third one is called "II" while the second one is called "Jr.". It's weird.
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« Reply #803 on: May 06, 2011, 07:42:36 pm »
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1945-50
Vice President Harry Truman (D-MO)
& Senator Alben Barkley (D-KY)

*Truman assassinated by Oscar Collazo and Griselio Torresola

1950-53
Vice President Alben Barkley (D-KY)
& Vacant

*Barkley losses the Democratic nomination to Governor Adlai Stevenson (D-IL)

1953
Senator Robert Taft (R-OH)
& Senator Richard Nixon (R-CA)

*Taft dies in July 1953

1953-57
Vice President Richard Nixon (R-CA)
& Vacant

*Nixon losses reelection in 1956 with Senator Thurston Morton (R-KY) as his running mate

1957-63
Senator John F. Kennedy (D-MA)
& Senator Stu Symington (D-MO)

*Kennedy assassinated in St. Louis on November 22, 1963

1963-64
Vice President Stu Syminton (D-MO)
& Vacant

*Symington dies of a massive stroke on January 1, 1964

1964-65
House Speaker John McCormack (D-MA)
& Former Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY)

*Speaker McCormack succeeds to the Presidency due to a vacancy in the Vice Presidency; appoints recently-resigned Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy to be Vice President;  McCormack announces he will not be a candidate for President in 1964; Robert F. Kennedy announces he will run for U.S. Senate from New York

1965-69
Former President Richard Nixon (R-CA)
& New York City Mayor John Lindsay (R-NY)

1969-77
Former Governor Terry Sanford (D-NC)
& former Secretary of State Harlan Cleveland (D-NY)

1977-81
Former Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA)
& Senator Howard Baker (R-TN)

*Reagan defeated in 1980

1981-82
Senator Gary Hart (D-CO)
& Senator Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)

*Hart becomes first President to resign after major sex scandal involving seven different White House Interns

1982-85
Vice President Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)
& former U.S. Attorney General Rose Bird (D-CA)

*Bentsen appoints first woman Vice President; the Democratic ticket loses in 1984

1985-93
Governor Jim Thompson (R-IL)
& Senator Mark Hatfield (R-OR)

1993-2001
Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR)
& Senator Catherine Long (D-LA)

*Long is first woman elected Vice President

2001-05
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)
& House Majority Leader John Kasich (R-OH)

*McCain defeated in 2004

2005-
Former Secretary of State Wes Clark (D-AR)
& former Governor Evan Bayh (D-IN)

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« Reply #804 on: May 06, 2011, 08:39:32 pm »
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A Possible Dewey Defeats Truman List

34. Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/Earl Warren (R-CA) January 20th, 1949-January 20th, 1957
35. Franknlin Roosevelt Jr. (D-NY)/Ernest McFarland (D-AZ) January 20th, 1957-January 20th, 1965
36. Evertt Dirksen (R-IL)/Margaret Chase Smith (R-ME) January 20th, 1965-September 7th, 1969
37. Margaret Chase Smith (R-ME)/vacant September 7th, 1969-January 20th, 1973

38. George Smathers (D-FL)/Robert F Kennedy (D-MA) January 20th, 1973-January 20th, 1981
39. Howard Baker (R-TN)/Clinton Eastwood (R-CA) January 20th, 1981-March 30th, 1981
40. Clinton Eastwood (R-CA)/Robert S Dole (R-KS) March 30th, 1981-January 20th, 1989

41. Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN)/Mario Cuomo (D-NY) January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1997
42. William Weld (R-MA)/Pete Wilson (R-CA) January 20th, 1997-January 20th, 2005
43. Joseph P Kennedy Jr. (D-MA)/James Webb (D-VA) January 20th, 2005-January 20th, 2009
44. Judd Gregg (R-NH)/Gary Johnson (R-NM) January 20th, 2009-Present

wouldn't he be 90 in 2005? 94 in 2009?

Oh, sorry, I meant "II". Apparently, even though there were three Joe Kennedys (#3 was Robert's son), the third one is called "II" while the second one is called "Jr.". It's weird.

ah, that IS weird haha
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1953-61
General Dwight D. Eisenhower (R-KS)
& Rep. Charles Halleck (R-IN)

*Eisenhower replaced Richard Nixon with Halleck after Nixon's failed "Checkers Speech"

1961-69
Governor Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)
& Senator Potter Stewart (R-OH)

1969-73
Vice President Potter Stewart (R-OH)
& Senator Clifford Case (R-NJ)

*Became first President to lose the nomination since Harry Truman lost in 1952 to Governor Adlai Stevenson

1973-81
Governor John Eisenhower (D-PA)
& Senator Jennings Randolph (D-WV) (1973-77; removed from ticket)
& Senator John F. Kennedy (D-MA)

1981-89
Vice President John F. Kennedy (D-MA)
& Senator Rose Bird (D-CA)

1989-93
Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR)
& Rep. Dick Gephart (D-MO)

*Lost reelection in 1992

1993-94
Senator George H.W. Bush (R-TX)
& Rep. Jack Kemp (R-NY)

*Bush died in Oklahoma City bombing

1994-97
Vice President Jack Kemp (R-NY)
& Senator Nancy Landon Kassebaum (R-KS)

*Lost reelection in 1996

1997-2001
Former Vice President Dick Gephart (D-MO)
& Senator Al Gore (D-TN)

*Lost reelection in 2000

2001-09
Governor Tom Ridge (R-PA)
& Rep. Michael Reagan (R-CA)

2009-
Governor David Eisenhower (D-PA)
& former Ambassador to the U.N. John F. Kennedy, Jr. (D-NY)

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« Reply #806 on: May 18, 2011, 03:31:48 pm »
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1988

Governor Michael S. Dukakis defeats George W. Bush 280-258




1992

President Michael S. Dukakis defeats Senator Bob Dole. Dole's running mate was former Secretary of State Alexander Haig.


1996

Vice President Lloyd Bentsen is defeated by Senator Lamar Alexander.
Bentsen's running mate was Congressman Richard Gephardt of Missouri. Alexander's running mate was Governor Tommy Thompson of Wisconsin.

2000

President Lamar Alexander is defeated by Senator Al Gore of Tennessee narrowly winning their home state. Gore's running mate was Senator Barbara Boxer of California.


2004

Former Vice President Tommy Thompson defeats incumbent President Al Gore. Thompson's running mate is Senator John McCain.

2008

Former Vice President Barbara Boxer defeats President Thompson making it 3 election cycles in a row where the incumbent President was defeated. Boxer's running mate was former Governor David Freudenthal of Wyoming.

2012

President Boxer wins a second term defeating former Governor Jeb Bush whose running mate was former NYC Mayor Rudolph Giuliani.

2016

Vice President Freudenthal opts not to run for the White House. Governor Eliot Spitzer of New York wins the nomination selecting Arkansas Governor Mike Beebe as his running mate.

Governor Jeb Bush wins the nomination again for the Republicans and selects South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley as his running mate.

Bush goes onto defeat Spitzer/Beebe.

Presidents...

41 - Michael S. Dukakis - January 20, 1989 - January 20, 1997
42 - Andrew Lamar Alexander - January 20, 1997- January 20, 2001
43 - Albert A. Gore Jr. - January 20, 2001 - January 20, 2005
44 - Tommy G. Thompson - January 20, 2005 - January 20, 2009
45 - Barbara L. Boxer - January 20, 2009 - January 20, 2017
46 - John E. Bush - January 20, 2017 - January 20, 2025

Vice Presidents...

44 - Lloyd Bensten - January 20, 1989 - January 20, 1997
45 - Tommy Thompson - January 20, 1997- January 20, 2001
46 - Barbara Boxer. - January 20, 2001 - January 20, 2005
47 - John S. McCain - January 20, 2005 - January 20, 2009
48 - David Freudenthal - January 20, 2009 - January 20, 2017
49 - Niki Haley - January 20, 2017 - January 20, 2025
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Presidents:

37. George Romney: 1969-1973
38. Hubert Humphrey: 1973-1977
39. Ronald Reagan: 1977-1985
40. Lloyd Bentsen: 1985-1989
41. Jack Kemp: 1989-1993
42. Bill Clinton: 1993-2001
43. John McCain: 2001-2009
44. Hillary Clinton: 2009-

Vice-Presidents:
39. Ronald Reagan
40. Shirley Chisholm
41. George Bush
42. Jerry Brown
43. Alexander Haig
44. Al Gore
45. Joe Lieberman
46. Barack Obama



Defeated Tickets:

1968: Hubert Humphrey/Ed Muskie
1972: George Romney/Ronald Reagan
1976: Hubert Humphrey/Shirley Chisholm
1980: Ted Kennedy/Robert Byrd
1984: George Bush/Bob Dole
1988: Lloyd Bentsen/Jerry Brown
1992: Jack Kemp/Alexander Haig
1996: Lamar Alexander/Phil Graham
2000: Al Gore/Bill Bradley
2004: Howard Dean/Wesley Clark
2008: Mitt Romney/Fred Thompson



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« Reply #808 on: May 18, 2011, 06:03:01 pm »
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The Last Taft

37. Robert Taft Jr. (R-OH)/George Romney (R-MI) 1969-1977
38. George Romney (R-MI)/Ronald Reagan (R-CA) 1977-1981

39. Henry M Jackson (D-WA)/Ted Kennedy (D-MA) 1981-1989
40. Mark Hatfield (R-OR)/Barry Goldwater Jr. (R-CA) 1989-1997
41. Joseph Lieberman (D-CT)/Joseph Biden (D-DE) 1997-2001
42. Gary E Johnson (R-NM)/William Weld (R-MA) 2001-2009
43. Eliot Abrams (D-NY)/Mark Warner (D-VA) 2009-Present

Just something I thought of off the top of my head. To be revised.
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« Reply #809 on: May 18, 2011, 06:12:23 pm »
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Presidents
36. Lyndon Johnson (D-TX) 1963-1971*
37. Robert Kennedy (D-NY) 1971-1973**
38. Fred Harris (D-OK) 1973-?


*Died of a heart attack
**Was unable to run for reelection during the general election due to a paralyzing gunshot wound inflicted on the campaign trail

Vice-Presidents
38. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) 1965-1969
39. Robert Kennedy (D-NY) 1969-1971*
40. Fred Harris (D-OK) 1971-1973**
41. Birch Bayh (D-IN) 1973-?


*Ascended to the presidency after LBJ's death
**Was nominated for President in RFK's stead after RFK was inflicted with a paralyzing gunshot wound



From my 1968 timeline so far Smiley.
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2000 - Collin Powell/Mitt Romney
2004 - Collin Powell/Mitt Romney

2008 - Hillary Clinton/Mark Warner
2012 - Hillary Clinton/Mark Warner

2016 - Bobby Jindall/Allen West
2020 - Bobby Jindall/Allen West


2000 - Al Gore/Joe Lieberman
2004 - Howard Dean/Paul Wellstone

2008 - Mitt Romney/Charlie Crist
2012 - Tim Pawlenty/Jon Huntsman

2016 - Mark Warner/Anthony Weiner
2020 - Carte Goodwin/Joseph Cao
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Progressivism Again

31. Robert LaFollette (P-WI)/Burton K Wheeler (P-MT) March 4, 1925-June 18, 1925
32. Burton K Wheeler (P-MT)/vacant June 18th, 1925-March 4, 1929

33. Alfred E Smith (D-NY)/Joseph T Robinson (D-AR) March 4, 1929-January 20, 1937
34. Calvin Coolidge (R-MA)/Arthur H Vandenberg (R-MI) Janury 20, 1937-May 3, 1942
35. Arthur H Vendenberg (R-MI)/vacant, Robert Taft May 3, 1942-January 20, 1949

36. Robert LaFollette Jr. (P-WI)/Earl Warren (P-CA) January 20, 1949-January 20, 1957
37. Joseph P Kennedy Jr. (D-MA)/Stuart Symington (D-MO) January 20, 1957-January 20, 1965
38. Hubert H Humphrey (P-MN)/Nelson Rockefeller (P-NY) January 20, 1965-January 20, 1969
39. Margaret Chase Smith (R-ME)/Ricahrd M Nixon (R-CA) January 20, 1969-October 9, 1971
40. Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/vacant, Robert Taft Jr. (R-OH) October 9, 1971-January 1, 1981

41. Henry M Jackson (D-WA)/Robert F Kennedy (D-MA) January 20, 1981-December 15, 1982
42. Robert F Kennedy (D-MA)/vacant,
Martin Luther King Jr. (R-GA) December 15, 1982-January 20, 1989
43. Walter Mondale (P-MN)/Michael Dukakis (P-MA) January 20, 1989-January 20, 1993
44. Barry Goldwater Jr. (R-CA)/Ronald Paul (R-TX) January 20, 1993-January 20, 2001
45. Ralph Nader (P-CT)/Howard Dean (P-VT) January 20, 2001-January 20, 2005
46. Sylvester Stallone (D-CA)/Joseph P Kennedy III (D-MA) January 20, 2005-January 20, 2013
47. Arnold Schwarzennegger (R-CA)/John Ellis Bush (R-CT) January 20, 2013-Present

31. In the upset of the century, Senator Robert LaFollette would win the Presidency on his Progressive ticket.
32. After the death of the first Progressive President only months into his term, Vice-President Wheeler would be sworn in.
33. The country's first Catholic President, Smith would win in a minor upset facing a strong Republican ticket made up of Herbert Hoover and Henry Ford and the Progressives, who had been weakened by economic decline.
34. former President Coolidge would make a rebound by doing what he had failed to do twelve years earlier and win election in his own rite.
35. The curse of Tippecanoe would strike again as Coolidge wouldn't live out his third term. Vice-President Vandenberg would be sworn in.
36. Son of a Progressive hero, the Progressives had nominated their strongest ticket in decades and were able to once again win the Presidency.
37. Famous war hero Joe Kennedy Jr., son of Smith Commerce Secretary Joe Kennedy, would become the second Catholic President, sworn in on the twentieth anniversary of Smith leaving office.
39. The nation's first female President, she would be one of the most popular in history until a fatal assassination attempt would strike her down.
41. President Jackson would be killed by an aneurysm in early 1982 and Vice-President Bobby Kennedy, the brother of one of the most popular Presidents in history, would take the reins. For Vice-President, in order to ensure "complete and total victory" come 1984, Republican former Georgia Governor Martin Luther King Jr. would be chosen. This combination defeated the Progressives by crushing margins in 1984, winning all fifty states plus DC.
42. Kennedy's popularity would not carry over to the party's next nominee, Lloyd Bentsen as a large lead in the polls would be slowly chipped away at by an insurgent Republican ticket and a hard-working Progressive ticket. Eventually, the election would be called for Mondale, against the odds. Mondale would famously hold up a newspaper claiming "Bentsen Wins!".
45. Despite the Progressives being rumored to be in decline, Nader would prove just as hard-working as Mondale and would, with the taking of California, win the election.
46. Famous actor Sylvester Stallone, a well known Catholic Democrat who ahd served one term as Governor of California (1999-2003), would be elected by a comfortable margin and re-elected by a larger margin.
47. The first President not born in the United States, Schwarzennegger was legally allowed to run because of a constitutional amendment passed during the secodn LaFollette Administration. He had served as California Governor from 2003 to 2011. At his acceptance speech, he would recall back in 1968 "when the Presidential debates were going on. I had a friend who could speak English and he translated one of the debates. Humphrey seemed to be talking about Communism, the government I had just come from. Margaret Chase Smith on the other hand was talking about capitalism, the reason I came to this country and the reason I am here today!"
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A Second Chance: 1960-?
This is my Second Chance timeline so far. In over thirty five pages, this is as far as I've gotten. I don't know if that's an accomplishment or a failure, but here it is:

34. Dwight D Eisenhower (R-NY)/Richard M Nixon (R-CA) January 20th, 1953-January 20th, 1961
35. Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R-MA) January 20th, 1961-January 20th, 1965

36. John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Terry Sanford (D-NC) January 20th, 1965-January 20th, 1973
37. Spiro T Agnew (R-MD)/George HW Bush (R-TX) January 20th, 1973-June 19th, 1974
38. George HW Bush (R-TX)/Gerald R Ford (R-MI) January 19th, 1974-January 20th, 1977

39. Robert F Kennedy (D-MA)/George McGovern (D-SD) January 20th, 1977-?

Here are the maps:

1960

Vice-President Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/Ambassador to the United Nations Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R-MA); 270 electoral votes, 49.9% of the popular vote
Senator John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Senate Majority Leader Lyndon B Johnson (D-TX); 248 electoral votes, 49.6% of the popular votes
Unpledged Electors; 13 electoral votes; .5% of the popular vote

1964

Senator John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Governor Terry Sanford (D-NC); 273 electoral votes, 43.7% of the popular vote
President Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/Vice-President Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R-MA); 212 electoral votes, 42.1% of the popular vote
Senator Strom Thurmond (DI-SC)/Governor Orville Faubus (DI-AR); 53 electoral votes, 14.5% of the popular vote

1968

President John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Vice-President Terry Sanford (D-NC); 273 electoral votes; 42.9% of the popular vote
Governor George Romney (R-MI)/Senator Mark Hatfield (R-OR); 212 electoral votes; 42.7% of the popular vote
Former Governor George Wallace (DI-AL)/General Curtis LeMay (DI-CA); 53 electoral votes; 14.1% of the popular vote

1972

Governor Spiro T Agnew (R-MD)/Senator George HW Bush (R-TX); 278 electoral votes, 48.7% of the popular vote
Vice-President Terry Sanford (D-NC)/Senate Minority Leader Hubert H Humphrey (D-MN); 242 electoral votes, 46.1% of the popular vote
Congressman John Schmitz (I-CA)/Congressman John Ashbrook (I-OH); 18 electoral votes; 4.7% of the popular vote
Others (Socialist, Libertarian, People's); 0 electoral votes, .3% of the popular vote

1976

Senator Robert F Kennedy (D-MA)/Senator George McGovern (D-SD); 281 electoral votes, 51.2% of the popular vote
President George Bush (R-TX)/Senator Ronald Reagan (R-CA); 257 electoral votes, 48.7% of the popular vote
Others; 0 electoral votes, .3% of the popular vote
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A Second Chance: 1960-?
This is my Second Chance timeline so far. In over thirty five pages, this is as far as I've gotten. I don't know if that's an accomplishment or a failure, but here it is:

34. Dwight D Eisenhower (R-NY)/Richard M Nixon (R-CA) January 20th, 1953-January 20th, 1961
35. Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R-MA) January 20th, 1961-January 20th, 1965

36. John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Terry Sanford (D-NC) January 20th, 1965-January 20th, 1973
37. Spiro T Agnew (R-MD)/George HW Bush (R-TX) January 20th, 1973-June 19th, 1974
38. George HW Bush (R-TX)/Gerald R Ford (R-MI) January 19th, 1974-January 20th, 1977

39. Robert F Kennedy (D-MA)/George McGovern (D-SD) January 20th, 1977-?

Here are the maps:

1960

Vice-President Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/Ambassador to the United Nations Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R-MA); 270 electoral votes, 49.9% of the popular vote
Senator John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Senate Majority Leader Lyndon B Johnson (D-TX); 248 electoral votes, 49.6% of the popular votes
Unpledged Electors; 13 electoral votes; .5% of the popular vote

1964

Senator John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Governor Terry Sanford (D-NC); 273 electoral votes, 43.7% of the popular vote
President Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/Vice-President Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R-MA); 212 electoral votes, 42.1% of the popular vote
Senator Strom Thurmond (DI-SC)/Governor Orville Faubus (DI-AR); 53 electoral votes, 14.5% of the popular vote

1968

President John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Vice-President Terry Sanford (D-NC); 273 electoral votes; 42.9% of the popular vote
Governor George Romney (R-MI)/Senator Mark Hatfield (R-OR); 212 electoral votes; 42.7% of the popular vote
Former Governor George Wallace (DI-AL)/General Curtis LeMay (DI-CA); 53 electoral votes; 14.1% of the popular vote

1972

Governor Spiro T Agnew (R-MD)/Senator George HW Bush (R-TX); 278 electoral votes, 48.7% of the popular vote
Vice-President Terry Sanford (D-NC)/Senate Minority Leader Hubert H Humphrey (D-MN); 242 electoral votes, 46.1% of the popular vote
Congressman John Schmitz (I-CA)/Congressman John Ashbrook (I-OH); 18 electoral votes; 4.7% of the popular vote
Others (Socialist, Libertarian, People's); 0 electoral votes, .3% of the popular vote

1976

Senator Robert F Kennedy (D-MA)/Senator George McGovern (D-SD); 281 electoral votes, 51.2% of the popular vote
President George Bush (R-TX)/Senator Ronald Reagan (R-CA); 257 electoral votes, 48.7% of the popular vote
Others; 0 electoral votes, .3% of the popular vote

Lol, that's a lot farther than I've ever gotten....
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Lol, that's a lot farther than I've ever gotten....

Do you like it?

And, by the way, on my LaFollette in 1924 list, I copied off of you on MLK being a Republican and on Nader winning in 2000.
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The Rise of Progressivism
This is a timeline I'm working on on another forum, though I haven't updated in a while due to the amount of time I put into individual updates. The point of divergence is obvious, Theodore Roosevelt winning as a Progressive in 1912.  It somewhat mirrors Mechaman's election of 1920 timeline, but I didn't intend for that to happen and have completely different plans for it than authoritarian Republican vs. Libertarian Democrat, which is what Mech's TL seems to be shaping up to be.

28. Theodore Roosevelt (P-NY)/Hiram Johnson (P-CA) March 4th, 1913-March 4th, 1921
29. Joseph T Robinson (D-AR)/Alfred E Smith (D-NY) March 4th, 1913-March 15th, 1923
30. Alfred E Smith (D-NY)/vacant, Charles W Bryan (D-NE) March 15th, 1923-?


These are the election maps with popular vote, which I did not include in the actual timeline. Actually seeing the margins down south, it now seems unrealistic that TR could capture the popular vote, but I'll stick with the original totals.

1912

Former President Theodore Roosevelt (P-NY)/Governor Hiram Johnson (P-CA) 276 electoral votes, 38.7% of the popular vote
Governor Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ)/Governor Thomas R Marshall (D-IN) 251 electoral votes, 36.2% of the popular vote
President William Howard Taft (R-OH)/Nicholas Murray Butler (R-NY) 4 electoral votes, 22.3% of the popular vote
Eugene V Debbs (S-IN)/Mayor Emil Seidel (S-WI) 2.2% of the popular vote

1916

President Theodore Roosevelt (P-NY)/Vice-President Hiram Johnson (P-CA) 303 electoral votes, 40.2% of the popular vote
House Speaker Beauchamp "Champ" Clark (D-MO)/DNC Chairman William F McComb (D-NY) 189 electoral votes, 33.5% of th epopular vote
Former Vice-President Charles W Fairbanks (R-IN)/Senator Warren G Harding (R-OH) 39 elecotral votes, 25.2% of the popular vote

1920

Senator Joseph T Robinson (D-AR)/Governor Alfred E Smith (D-NY) 277 electoral votes, 36.3% of the popular vote
Associate Justice William S Kenyon (P-IA)/Labor Secretary Franklin D Roosevelt (P-NY) 168 electoral votes, 32.7% of the popular vote
Senator Howard Sutherland (R-WV)/Former Senator John W Weeks (R-MA) 86 electoral votes, 30.2% of the popular vote
Others (Socialist, Prohoibition, etc.) 0 electoral votes, .8% of the popular vote

1924

President Alfred E Smith (D-NY)/Governor Charles W Bryan (D-NE) 276 electoral votes, 36.2% of the popular vote
Senate Majority Leader Robert P LaFollette (P-WI)/Former War Secretary Leonard Wood (P-NH) 184 electoral votes, 32.8% of the popular vote
Senator James Phalen (C-CA)/Former Commerce Secretary Henry Ford (C-MI) 67 electoral votes, 19.3% of the popular vote
Senator Smith W Brookhart (R-IA)/Congressman Theodore E Burton (R-OH) 4 electoral votes, 11.2% of the popular vote
Others (Socialist, Prohibition, etc.) 0 electoral votes, .5% of the popular vote
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« Reply #816 on: May 20, 2011, 12:17:30 pm »
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Lol, that's a lot farther than I've ever gotten....

Do you like it?

And, by the way, on my LaFollette in 1924 list, I copied off of you on MLK being a Republican and on Nader winning in 2000.

I had Nader winning in 2000?
Must've been one of my earlier lists.......
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« Reply #817 on: May 20, 2011, 12:21:18 pm »
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The Rise of Progressivism
This is a timeline I'm working on on another forum, though I haven't updated in a while due to the amount of time I put into individual updates. The point of divergence is obvious, Theodore Roosevelt winning as a Progressive in 1912.  It somewhat mirrors Mechaman's election of 1920 timeline, but I didn't intend for that to happen and have completely different plans for it than authoritarian Republican vs. Libertarian Democrat, which is what Mech's TL seems to be shaping up to be.

28. Theodore Roosevelt (P-NY)/Hiram Johnson (P-CA) March 4th, 1913-March 4th, 1921
29. Joseph T Robinson (D-AR)/Alfred E Smith (D-NY) March 4th, 1913-March 15th, 1923
30. Alfred E Smith (D-NY)/vacant, Charles W Bryan (D-NE) March 15th, 1923-?


These are the election maps with popular vote, which I did not include in the actual timeline. Actually seeing the margins down south, it now seems unrealistic that TR could capture the popular vote, but I'll stick with the original totals.

1912

Former President Theodore Roosevelt (P-NY)/Governor Hiram Johnson (P-CA) 276 electoral votes, 38.7% of the popular vote
Governor Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ)/Governor Thomas R Marshall (D-IN) 251 electoral votes, 36.2% of the popular vote
President William Howard Taft (R-OH)/Nicholas Murray Butler (R-NY) 4 electoral votes, 22.3% of the popular vote
Eugene V Debbs (S-IN)/Mayor Emil Seidel (S-WI) 2.2% of the popular vote

1916

President Theodore Roosevelt (P-NY)/Vice-President Hiram Johnson (P-CA) 303 electoral votes, 40.2% of the popular vote
House Speaker Beauchamp "Champ" Clark (D-MO)/DNC Chairman William F McComb (D-NY) 189 electoral votes, 33.5% of th epopular vote
Former Vice-President Charles W Fairbanks (R-IN)/Senator Warren G Harding (R-OH) 39 elecotral votes, 25.2% of the popular vote

1920

Senator Joseph T Robinson (D-AR)/Governor Alfred E Smith (D-NY) 277 electoral votes, 36.3% of the popular vote
Associate Justice William S Kenyon (P-IA)/Labor Secretary Franklin D Roosevelt (P-NY) 168 electoral votes, 32.7% of the popular vote
Senator Howard Sutherland (R-WV)/Former Senator John W Weeks (R-MA) 86 electoral votes, 30.2% of the popular vote
Others (Socialist, Prohoibition, etc.) 0 electoral votes, .8% of the popular vote

1924

President Alfred E Smith (D-NY)/Governor Charles W Bryan (D-NE) 276 electoral votes, 36.2% of the popular vote
Senate Majority Leader Robert P LaFollette (P-WI)/Former War Secretary Leonard Wood (P-NH) 184 electoral votes, 32.8% of the popular vote
Senator James Phalen (C-CA)/Former Commerce Secretary Henry Ford (C-MI) 67 electoral votes, 19.3% of the popular vote
Senator Smith W Brookhart (R-IA)/Congressman Theodore E Burton (R-OH) 4 electoral votes, 11.2% of the popular vote
Others (Socialist, Prohibition, etc.) 0 electoral votes, .5% of the popular vote

Well, I wouldn't exactly call Al Smith's campaign "libertarian" due to some of his more liberal stances (support of a minimal wage namely), but the point is that it is a counter "Republican progressive" ticket.  In other words Smith follows more along the lines of Democratic Liberalism of that era (ie opposition to imperialism and protectionism) that just happens to have some traditional American conservative sympathies.
And I wouldn't call the above a copy of my TL, considering that in 1912 TR runs as Republican as opposed to a Progressive.
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« Reply #818 on: May 20, 2011, 04:37:31 pm »
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Civil Rights is a little too sucessfull
1968 - Martin Luther King Jr./Ceaser Chavez
1972 - Martin Luther King Jr./Ceaser Chavez
1976 - Jesse Jackson/Walter Washington
1980 - Jesse Jackson/Walter Washington

1984 - Clarence Thomas/Colin Powell
1988 - Clarence Thomas/Colin Powell

1992 - Walter Washington/Douglas Wilder
1996 - Colin Powell/Alan Keyes
2000 - Colin Powell/Alan Keyes

2004 - Douglas Wilder/Mosley Braun
2008 - Alan Keyes/Ezola Foster
2012 - Barack Obama/Jimmy McMillian
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« Reply #819 on: May 20, 2011, 08:08:23 pm »
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Civil Rights is a little too sucessfull
1968 - Martin Luther King Jr./Ceaser Chavez
1972 - Martin Luther King Jr./Ceaser Chavez
1976 - Jesse Jackson/Walter Washington
1980 - Jesse Jackson/Walter Washington

1984 - Clarence Thomas/Colin Powell
1988 - Clarence Thomas/Colin Powell

1992 - Walter Washington/Douglas Wilder
1996 - Colin Powell/Alan Keyes
2000 - Colin Powell/Alan Keyes

2004 - Douglas Wilder/Mosley Braun
2008 - Alan Keyes/Ezola Foster
2012 - Barack Obama/Jimmy McMillian

Now this list is ASB. And the rent is too damn high
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« Reply #820 on: May 21, 2011, 02:36:30 pm »
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Civil Rights is a little too sucessfull
1968 - Martin Luther King Jr./Ceaser Chavez
1972 - Martin Luther King Jr./Ceaser Chavez
1976 - Jesse Jackson/Walter Washington
1980 - Jesse Jackson/Walter Washington

1984 - Clarence Thomas/Colin Powell
1988 - Clarence Thomas/Colin Powell

1992 - Walter Washington/Douglas Wilder
1996 - Colin Powell/Alan Keyes
2000 - Colin Powell/Alan Keyes

2004 - Douglas Wilder/Mosley Braun
2008 - Alan Keyes/Ezola Foster
2012 - Barack Obama/Jimmy McMillian

Now this list is ASB. And the rent is too damn high
Oh its VERY ASB. Just a joke Smiley
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« Reply #821 on: May 23, 2011, 03:06:33 pm »
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JFK Lives

35. John F Kennedy/Lyndon B Johnson 1961-1965
36. Richard M Nixon/Nelson Rockefeller 1965-1973
37. John F Kennedy/Alan Cranston 1973-1977
38. Barry Goldwater/Ronald Reagan 1977-1985
39. Edward M Kennedy/Lloyd Bentsen 1985-1993
40. Barry Goldwater Jr./Jack Kemp 1993-2001

to be continued...
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« Reply #822 on: May 23, 2011, 03:15:06 pm »
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Presidents
36. Lyndon Johnson (D-TX) 1963-1971*
37. Robert Kennedy (D-NY) 1971-1973**
38. Fred Harris (D-OK) 1973-1977

Richard Nixon (R-CA) 1977-?

*Died of a heart attack
**Was unable to run for reelection during the general election due to a paralyzing gunshot wound inflicted on the campaign trail

Vice-Presidents
38. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) 1965-1969
39. Robert Kennedy (D-NY) 1969-1971*
40. Fred Harris (D-OK) 1971-1973**
41. Birch Bayh (D-IN) 1973-1977

42. Gerald Ford (R-MI) 1977-?

*Ascended to the presidency after LBJ's death
**Was nominated for President in RFK's stead after RFK was inflicted with a paralyzing gunshot wound



From my 1968 timeline so far Smiley.
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« Reply #823 on: May 23, 2011, 04:46:03 pm »
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Bush Sr. decides not to run in '88

1988: Paul Tsongas/Joseph Biden
1992: Paul Tsongas/Joseph Biden
1993:* Joseph Biden/Bill Clinton
1996: Joseph Biden/Bill Clinton
2000: Bill Clinton/John F. Kerry
2004: Bill Clinton/John F. Kerry

2008: Mike Huckabee/George Pataki

*Following the return of his cancer, Paul Tsongas announces his resignation on February 22, 1993.   Vice-President Joe Biden is sworn in.  The Senate confirms former Arkansas governor Bill Clinton as Vice Preisdent on March 10, 1993. 

Losing Tickets:
1988: Alexander Haig/Pat Robertson
1992: Bob Dole/Alfonse D'Amato
1996: John McCain/Dan Quayle
2000: George W. Bush/Richard B. Cheney
2004: Bill Frist/Rudy Giuliani

2008: Bill Richardson/Russ Feingold
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« Reply #824 on: May 25, 2011, 10:19:21 am »
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This is from one of my althists on Althist wiki. This is all highly improbable.

Backstory: Samuel J. Tilden wins California and the presidency in 1876

Samuel J. Tilden/Thomas A. Hendricks, Democrat (1877-1881)
James G. Blaine/John A. Logan/George F. Edmunds, Republican (1881-1889)
Grover Cleveland/Allen G. Thurman, Democrat (1889-1893)
Thomas B. Reed/Matthew S. Quay, Republican (1893-1900)
Matthew S. Quay/None, Republican (1900-1901)
William Jennings Bryan/Arthur Sewall, Democrat (1901-1905)[1]
William B. Allison/Levi P. Morton, Republican (1905-1908)
Levi P. Morton/William Howard Taft, Republican (1908-1909)
Theodore Roosevelt/Hiram Johnson, Progressive (1909-1917)
Woodrow Wilson/Thomas R. Marshall, Democrat (1917-1924)
Thomas R. Marshall/None, Democrat (1924-1925)
Robert M. LaFollette/Burton K. Wheeler, Progressive (1925-1933)[2]
William Gibbs McAdoo/Herbert Hoover, Democrat (1933-1937)[3]
Franklin D. Roosevelt/James M. Cox, Progressive (1937-1945)[4]
James M. Cox/Harry Truman, Progressive (1945-1949)
Thomas Dewey/Robert Taft, Democrat (1949-1953)
Dwight D. Eisenhower/Earl Warren, Independent, Progressive (1953-1961)
John F. Kennedy/Hubert H. Humphrey, Progressive (1961-1969)
Earl Warren/Edmund Muskie, Progressive (1969-1974)[5]
Edmund Muskie/George McGovern, Progressive (1974-1981)
Ronald Reagan/George Bush, Democrat (1981-1989)
Ted Kennedy/Jerry Brown, Progressive (1989-1997)
Al Gore/Bill Bradley, Progressive (1997-2005)
John McCain/Tom Ridge (2005-2009)
Barack Obama/Pat Leahy (2009-pres.)

[1]Bryan's VP Arthur Sewall dies early in his term, and is never replaced.
[2]Robert LaFollette lived longer than 1925 in this timeline. He instead dies in 1935.
[3]The Great Depression doesn't stat until 1933.
[4]Roosevelt ran for three terms, but died in 1945, early in his third. James Cox became president.
[5]

NOTE: In 1910, Roosevelt's Progressives overtake most if not all of the Republican party's left-leaning members, and the Democrats continue to be on the right of the American political spectrum. The Republican Party is still around, but never returns to prominence
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