List of Alternate Presidents

[ChairmanSanchez]

Nixon in 1960
Presidents and Vice Presidents
1960: Richard Nixon/Henry Cabot Lodge
1964: Richard Nixon/Henry Cabot Lodge
1968: Robert Kennedy/Robert Byrd*
1971: Robert Byrd/vacant
1972: Robert Byrd/Kevin White
1976: Ronald Reagan/Robert Dole
1980: Ronald Reagan/Robert Dole**
1981: Robert Dole/vacant
1984: Gary Hart/John Glenn
1988: Donald Rumsfield/Richard Cheney
1992: Donald Rumsfield/Richard Cheney
1996: Albert Gore Jr./Jay Rockefeller
2000: Albert Gore Jr./Jay Rockefeller
2004: Richard Cheney/Rudy Giuliani
2008: Mark Warner/Evan Bayh
2012: Mark Warner/Evan Bayh
2016: Evan Bayh/Sherrod Brown
2020: Christopher Nixon Cox/Thad McCotter
Defeated Tickets
1960: John Kennedy/Lyndon Johnson
1964: John Kennedy/Hubert Humphrey
1968: Nelson Rockefeller/John Tower
1972: John Ashbrook/John Schmitz
1976: Kevin White/Morris Udall
1980: Edward Kennedy/Alan Cranston
1984: Robert Dole/Donald Rumsfield
1988: Gary Hart/John Glenn
1992: John Glenn/Ross Perot
1996: Richard Cheney/Steve Forbes
2000: Herman Cain/Jack Kemp
2004: Jay Rockefeller/John Kerry
2008: Richard Cheney/Rudy Giuliani
2012: Rudy Giuliani/Herman Cain
2016: Rick Perry/Susana Martinez
2020: Evan Bayh/Sherrod Brown

35. Richard Nixon: Vice President Nixon won a narrow election over Senator John Kennedy, of Massachusetts. Immediately after taking office, he faced the Cuban crisis, when the USSR placed missiles on the island, which led to the US invasion to prevent further Soviet influence in the region. In 1964, after starving off a primary challenge for Senator Barry Goldwater, President Nixon defeated his old rival, John Kennedy, by a much larger margin then before. He pushed Civil Rights, and Social programs throughout his second term, and deployed the first US troops to South Vietnam in 1965. Nixon left office, and lived in retirement in New York until his 1999 death.

36. Robert Kennedy: Elected to the Senate in a 1965 special election, on the death of his brother, John (the Democratic nominee in 1960, and 1964), Robert Kennedy was seen as the heir to the Kennedy family. Defeating Senators Hubert Humphrey, Lyndon Johnson, and Eugene McCarthy for the 1968 Democratic nomination, Kennedy picked Senator Robert Byrd, a mild segregationist from West Virginia. Kennedy defeated the Rockefeller/Tower ticket by a fairly wide margin, and went on to be the 36th President. Passing several social programs, and civil rights bills in his first term, as well as withdrawling US troops in victory from Vietnam were major accomplishments of the Kennedy administration. Kennedy didn't live to see reelection. He was shot and killed by Arthur Bremmer while visiting the Lincoln Memorial on July 17th, 1971.

37. Robert Byrd: Robert Byrd, a revered Senator from West Virginia, and Vice President, was thrust into office on the evening of July 17th, when President Kennedy was shot. Byrd, once a member of the Ku Klux Klan, made it a point to make amends with the African Americans, which he did, after a teary meeting with Corretta Scott King, the widow of MLK, who was shot and killed in 1968. Byrd continued several Kennedy programs, and was reelected in a 49 state landslide in 1972, losing only Wyoming. During his second term, Byrd deployed US troops to Zaire, pushing down a Communist rebellion, though US casualties were high. Byrd also pushed arms limitation, which he failed to do at the Stockholm Summit. Byrd did not seek reelection in 1976, and retired to West Virginia, where he died in 2010.

38. Ronald Reagan: Once a Oscar winning actor, and later Governor of California, Ronald Reagan defeating House Speaker Gerald Ford, Senator Elliot Richardson, and Florida Governor Ray Osborne for the Republican nomination, going on to defeat former Boston Mayor and Vice President Kevin White by a decent margin. In his first term, Reagan was able to create a nuclear defense ring around Western Europe, brought India into SEATO, and passed the balanced budget amendment. He also passed the Reagan tax cuts, and was reelected over Senator Edward Kennedy, brother of the late President, in 1980. Sadly, only a few months later, he was shot and killed by John Hinkley Jr. His daughter, Maureen., later became a Senator from California, and was a failed candidate for the 2000 and 2004 Republican nomination.

39. Robert Dole: The Kansas Senator, and later VP, suffered the same fate as President Byrd on the assassination of President Reagan, and became President. Dole appointed Donald Rumsfield to be VP, and he was confirmed by the Senate soon after. In 1983, Dole deployed US troops to Grenada, putting down a Soviet sponsored regime. Dole lost reelection in 1984 to Gary Hart. Dole, as of 2019, lives in Kansas, and opened a Presidential Library (every President since Nixon would build one or have one built), and is an elder statesman for the United States. He is in poor health, but may live to be the first President to reach 100.

40. Gary Hart: The Colorado Senator was the favorite for the 1984 Democratic nomination, which he easily won, and went on to win the White House over President Dole. Hart was overambitious, and failed in attempts to create a Universal Healthcare program, failed attempts at forming a budget within the requirement that it be balanced, and a sex scandal involving pornstar Donna Rice killed his chances for reelection, and he lost by a large margin. Hart died in 2019, after retiring to Denver.

41. Donald Rumsfield: Longtime Illinois Congressman, and Secretary of Defense and Vice President under Presidents Reagan and Dole, Rumsfield won the 1988 election in a landslide. Soon after taking office, Rumsfield announced the Rumsfield Doctrine, which created for greater US involvement in the Middle East, and turning oil rich nations against the USSR. The USSR, whose economy began to fail, began the process of disintegrating, and finally collapsed in 1991. Along with victory in the Gulf War over Iraq, the last pro USSR stronghold in the Middle East, allowed President Rumsfield another landslide victory over former VP and Astronaut John Glenn, and Businessman, and Texas Congressman Ross Perot. Rumsfields second term was marked with tax cuts, though economic growth slowed, leading to the 1999-2000 recession. Rumsfield lived in Arlington, Virginia, since leaving office, to his death in 2017.

42. Al Gore: Al Gore, the young, centrist Senator from Tennsee was the favorite to win the nomination, which he did, over Bob Kerry, and Joe Biden in a heated primary. Gore became on of the youngest Presidents in American history, and after taking office, Gore finally did what no President since Kennedy could do-pass the Equal Rights Amendment. Gore also created the Federal Flood and Tornado insurance program, and the National Infrastructure Bank. Reelected in 2000 over Businessman Herman Cain in a landslide, Gore's second term was scarred by the 9/11 attacks, which destroyed the World Trade Center, a wing of the Pentagon, the Sears Tower in Chicago. US troops invaded Afghanistan soon after, and Osama Bin Laden, the Al Qeada leader behind the attacks, was captured alive in Torah Borah. Gore left with high approval ratings, though Vice President Rockefeller did not get elected in his own right in 2004. Gore is now a Environmental activist, and lives in his native Tennessee.

43. Richard Cheney: Former Vice President Cheney took office after winning a close election over Vice President Rockefeller. In 2005, Cheney ordered the US to bomb a nuclear facility in Syria, which led to the PLO to declare a Fatwa against the US. In 2006, a truck bomb destroyed the FBI building in Washington. Al Qaida took responsibility, and 152 were killed. The PATRIOT Act, and the Public Surveillance Act were passed that year. After losing both Houses of Congress, the US economy began to fail, only worsening Cheney's term. His refusal to withdrawl troops from Afghanistan led to heavy casualties due to a insurgency. The stock market crash in 2007, and a strong primary challenge from Congressman Ron Paul led to Cheney's landslide defeat by Mark Warner. Cheney retired to Wyoming, wrote his autobiography, and opened a Presidential library, before dying of a heart attack weeks after the death of former President Byrd.

44. Mark Warner: The moderate Senator from Virginia defeated a crowded field for the Democratic nomination, and with his VP nominee, Senator Evan Bayh, was elected in a landslide. President Warner began and completed a withdrawl from Afghanistan in 2010, and by 2011, the US economy was beginning to recover. Reelected over former VP Giuliani, President Warner continued through a peacefull 2nd term, before retiring to Virginia, where he opened a Presidential Library.

45. Evan Bayh: Son of President Byrd's Commerce Secretary, Birch Bayh, Evan Bayh was elected over Texas Governor Rick Perry in 2016, and presided over a period of economic expansion. However, as illegal immigration increased in record numbers, Bayhs attempt at Immigration reform, which granted amnesty, failed. Seen as a do nothing President, he lost reelection to Senator Chris Cox, and will retire to Indiana next January.

46. Christopher Nixon Cox: President Elect Cox is the grandson of former President Nixon, and President-Elect. He first was elected to Congress in 2010, and was elected to the Senate in 2018. He will take office in January.


(Note, this is in the viewpoint of someone from December 2020)

[MRX]

The Best of Both Worlds

My ideal TL. One day, I'll write a full version. One day. But for now...

Robert F. Kennedy/Ralph Yarborough (1969-1977)
Ronald Reagan/George H.W. Bush (1977-1985)
George H.W. Bush/Howard Baker (1985-1993)
Bill Clinton/Ann Richards (1993-2001)
John McCain/ (2001-2009)
Barrack Obama, Joe Biden (2009-2017)

Need to find a way for Quayle to be V.P. I l still want Murphygate to happen. Also need to know a good V.P. candidate for McCain. Sam Brownback's been done b4. Wanna make a change.

[NHI]

35.John F. Kennedy 1961-1969
36.Ronald Reagan 1969-1973
37.Robert Kennedy 1973-1977
38.Ronald Reagan 1977-1981
39.George H.W. Bush 1981-1985
40.Lloyd Bentsen 1985-1993
41.Bill Clinton 1993-2001
42.John McCain 2001-2009
43.Al Gore 2009-2013
44.Mitt Romney 2013-2021

35. Kennedy Defeats Nixon in 1960, dumps Johnson in replace of Humphrey and goes onto defeats Goldwater in 1964.

36. Humphrey is defeated by Ronald Reagan.

37. Reagan is defeated in the electoral college, but wins the popular vote in a race against in Sen. Robert Kennedy. Kennedy's term in office is not as successful as his brother and his approval ratings drop into the 30s by reelection.

38. Reagan seeks and wins the nomination once again and defeats Kennedy in a landslide.

39. Reagan's Vice President George H.W. Bush wins the nomination after a fight against Bob Dole. He taps Dole as his VP and beats Jerry Brown.

40. Lloyd Bentsen defeats Bush for reelection, thanks to a weakened economy. Bentsen easily defeats Bob Dole in 1988, thanks to a revived economy.

41. Bill Clinton, defeats Michael Dukakis for the nomination and goes up against Jack Kemp and wins the election. Clinton is able to defeat Lamar Alexander and Ross Perot in his reelection.

42. John McCain defeats Clinton's Vice President Mario Cuomo in a landslide election. McCain cruises to reelection in 2004 over Howard Dean.

43. The economic crisis puts the Republicans in a jam and Al Gore defeats Vice President George W. Bush.

44. Mitt Romney defeats Al Gore in a landslide, due to the still weakened economy.

[HuckReagan]

George Washington (F-Virginia)  1789-1797 (Part One)
Thomas Jefferson  (DR-Virginia)   1797-1805
Levi Lincoln            (DR- Massachusetts)  1805-1813

1789: The first president is still George Washigton, his overwhelming popularity with the american people can not be ignored in any scenario.

1796:  Retiring President George Washington endorses his Secretary of State , Thomas Jefferson for President over John Adams his Vice President, ensuring Jefferson's election.

1800: With the economy strong, and George Washington's death in the recent past , Jefferson is easily elected for a 2nd term.

1804: President Jefferson retires, to  stop a rebellion by New Englanders to the Federalists , the Democratic -Republicans choose Levi Lincoln , former Governor of Massachusetts to be their candidate.  In  november Lincoln easiy wins over Charles Pinckney.


1808:  President Levi Lincoln wins reelection over Jefferson's Secretary of  State James Madison over the controversial issue embargos. Lincoln's opposition to them ensures him the vote of New York and the New England Staetats.

[HuckReagan]

Part Two
1812: President Levi Lincoln retires on the onset of the war of 1812, the closest election ever is pitched battle between Madison of the DR's (who rejoined after rebelling in 1808 to oppose Lincoln) and Federalist Senator Rufus King of New York. Maintaining a pro-war stance in the South and a  anti-war stance in the north , King narrowly defeats Madison.

1816: After ensuring the end of the War of 1812, President King recieves only nominal oppostion from former Virginia governor James Monroe. A era of Good Feeling sweeps the Nation.

1820: President King's retirement leaves the race open between 1816 DR candidate James Monroe and King's Secretary of State , John Q. Adams son of the first Vice-President. King's popularity and the continuing of the Era of Good Feeling makes the election a confortable win for Adams but the election is much closer than 1816 with Monroe doing well in the South .

[HuckReagan]

Part Three
John Q. Adams (F-Massachusetts) 1821-1825
Andrew Jackson (D-Tennessee)     1825-1833

1824: President John Q. Adams recieve serious opposition from General Andrew Jackson, Senator Henry Clay and Attorney General William Crawford.  Clay  withdraws midway through the campaign and Crawford suffers a stroke making it a two man race between Jackson and Adams.  Jackson's popularity with the western and southern United States is too much for Adams to overcome and he becomes the first president to be defeated for reelection.

1828: This election is a rematch of the 1824 election between President Andrew Jackson and Ex-President John Q. Adams. The economy is going well and Jackson's popularity ensures his re-election.

1832: Popular President Andrew Jackson retires after the customary two terms.  The Democrats nominate the War of 1812 hero Richard Johnson who was famous for killing the Indian leader Tecumseh hoping to elect another war hero.  The whigs nominated Senator Henry Clay of Kentucky. The election hinged on the issue of renewing The Second Bank of the unitUnited States. The election was very close with the State of PEnnsylvania deciding the elction in favour of Clay.

[HuckReagan]

Part Four
Henry Clay (W-Kentucky) 1833-1841
Martin Van Buren (D-New York) 1841-1849
1836: In his first term as president , Henry Clay renewed the Second Bank of the United States , much to the mispleausure of the Democrats. The Democrats field the 1832 Vice Presidential candidate Martin Van Buren.  Van Buren is able to run a decent campaign mostly on the charges of Clay's  corruption, but the strong US economy helped Clay win reelection narrowly.

1840: President Henry Clay retires  leaving  former Senator  and Indian War Hero William Harrison to protect his record during the current recession. The Democrats again nominate Martin Van Buren who thinks he has his best chance at getting elected with a weak economy. The weak economy dominates the economy much to the displeasure of the Whigs who were hoping to run on Harrison's war record. Van Buren wins the election in a landslide

[CathKhan]

Will you eventually put this in a timeline?

[NCeriale]

35.John F. Kennedy 1961-1969
36.Ronald Reagan 1969-1973
37.Robert Kennedy 1973-1977
38.Ronald Reagan 1977-1981
39.George H.W. Bush 1981-1985
40.Lloyd Bentsen 1985-1993
41.Bill Clinton 1993-2001
42.John McCain 2001-2009
43.Al Gore 2009-2013
44.Mitt Romney 2013-2021

35. Kennedy Defeats Nixon in 1960, dumps Johnson in replace of Humphrey and goes onto defeats Goldwater in 1964.

36. Humphrey is defeated by Ronald Reagan.

37. Reagan is defeated in the electoral college, but wins the popular vote in a race against in Sen. Robert Kennedy. Kennedy's term in office is not as successful as his brother and his approval ratings drop into the 30s by reelection.

38. Reagan seeks and wins the nomination once again and defeats Kennedy in a landslide.

39. Reagan's Vice President George H.W. Bush wins the nomination after a fight against Bob Dole. He taps Dole as his VP and beats Jerry Brown.

40. Lloyd Bentsen defeats Bush for reelection, thanks to a weakened economy. Bentsen easily defeats Bob Dole in 1988, thanks to a revived economy.

41. Bill Clinton, defeats Michael Dukakis for the nomination and goes up against Jack Kemp and wins the election. Clinton is able to defeat Lamar Alexander and Ross Perot in his reelection.

42. John McCain defeats Clinton's Vice President Mario Cuomo in a landslide election. McCain cruises to reelection in 2004 over Howard Dean.

43. The economic crisis puts the Republicans in a jam and Al Gore defeats Vice President George W. Bush.

44. Mitt Romney defeats Al Gore in a landslide, due to the still weakened economy.

Very interesting

[CathKhan]

Planned List of Presidents for TL on my Americana characters
37. Richard M Nixon (R-NY)/Spiro T Agnew (R-MD) January 20th, 1969-January 20th, 1973
38. Robert F Kennedy (D-NY)/Terry Sanford (D-NC) January 20th, 1973-November 22nd, 1973
39. Terry Sanford (D-NC)/vacant, Hubert H Humphrey, Morris K Udall (D-AZ) November 22nd, 1973-January 20th, 1981
40. James L Buckley (R-NY)/Mendelik D'Israeli (R-MT) January 20th, 1981-January 20th, 1989
41. Mendelik D'Israeli (R-MT)/Jack Kemp (R-NY) January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1993
42. Jefferson Dent (D-AL)/Joseph R Biden (D-DE) January 20th, 1993-January 20th, 1997
43. Robert S Dole (R-KS)/Benson Rockefeller (R-NY) January 20th, 1997-January 20th, 2001
44. Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN)/Mark Udall (D-CO) January 20th, 2001-January 20th, 2009
45. John S McCain (R-AZ)/JC Watts (R-OK) January 20th, 2009-Present

For those of you familiar with my Americana character, you'll notice none of them become President. Christian Mattingly, Governor of Michigan, beats Benson Rockefeller for the 2004 Republican nomination, losing by a very narrow margin to President Gore currently a stand-in. Robert O'Sullivan worked for the Kennedy White House as a special adviser before being fired by President Sanford in 1975. He goes on to work for Mednelik D'Israeli as Assistant Secretary of State (under Beauregard D'Israeli) and then as National Security Adviser. Jack Daniels is the guitarist for Wutevr, being elected to Congress from Nevada in 1988. He stages a surprisingly popular attempt at primarying President Gore in 2004, having attempted to win the nomination at other points including a 1996 run and later a 2008 run which would be marked by a surprisewin in New Hampshire and a win in Nevada. However, in the crowded field, he wouldn't be able to break out among the candidates and would lose to Vice-President Udall who, like his father, would sadly never reach the White House.

[Proud Lieberal from Northeast]

Planned List of Presidents for TL on my Americana characters
37. Richard M Nixon (R-NY)/Spiro T Agnew (R-MD) January 20th, 1969-January 20th, 1973
38. Robert F Kennedy (D-NY)/Terry Sanford (D-NC) January 20th, 1973-November 22nd, 1973
39. Terry Sanford (D-NC)/vacant, Hubert H Humphrey, Morris K Udall (D-AZ) November 22nd, 1973-January 20th, 1981
40. James L Buckley (R-NY)/Mendelik D'Israeli (R-MT) January 20th, 1981-January 20th, 1989
41. Mendelik D'Israeli (R-MT)/Jack Kemp (R-NY) January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1993
42. Jefferson Dent (D-AL)/Joseph R Biden (D-DE) January 20th, 1993-January 20th, 1997
43. Robert S Dole (R-KS)/Benson Rockefeller (R-NY) January 20th, 1997-January 20th, 2001
44. Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN)/Mark Udall (D-CO) January 20th, 2001-January 20th, 2009
45. John S McCain (R-AZ)/JC Watts (R-OK) January 20th, 2009-Present

For those of you familiar with my Americana character, you'll notice none of them become President. Christian Mattingly, Governor of Michigan, beats Benson Rockefeller for the 2004 Republican nomination, losing by a very narrow margin to President Gore currently a stand-in. Robert O'Sullivan worked for the Kennedy White House as a special adviser before being fired by President Sanford in 1975. He goes on to work for Mednelik D'Israeli as Assistant Secretary of State (under Beauregard D'Israeli) and then as National Security Adviser. Jack Daniels is the guitarist for Wutevr, being elected to Congress from Nevada in 1988. He stages a surprisingly popular attempt at primarying President Gore in 2004, having attempted to win the nomination at other points including a 1996 run and later a 2008 run which would be marked by a surprisewin in New Hampshire and a win in Nevada. However, in the crowded field, he wouldn't be able to break out among the candidates and would lose to Vice-President Udall who, like his father, would sadly never reach the White House.

Benson Rockefeller never became President?

U R MEAN!

[CathKhan]

Planned List of Presidents for TL on my Americana characters
37. Richard M Nixon (R-NY)/Spiro T Agnew (R-MD) January 20th, 1969-January 20th, 1973
38. Robert F Kennedy (D-NY)/Terry Sanford (D-NC) January 20th, 1973-November 22nd, 1973
39. Terry Sanford (D-NC)/vacant, Hubert H Humphrey, Morris K Udall (D-AZ) November 22nd, 1973-January 20th, 1981
40. James L Buckley (R-NY)/Mendelik D'Israeli (R-MT) January 20th, 1981-January 20th, 1989
41. Mendelik D'Israeli (R-MT)/Jack Kemp (R-NY) January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1993
42. Jefferson Dent (D-AL)/Joseph R Biden (D-DE) January 20th, 1993-January 20th, 1997
43. Robert S Dole (R-KS)/Benson Rockefeller (R-NY) January 20th, 1997-January 20th, 2001
44. Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN)/Mark Udall (D-CO) January 20th, 2001-January 20th, 2009
45. John S McCain (R-AZ)/JC Watts (R-OK) January 20th, 2009-Present

For those of you familiar with my Americana character, you'll notice none of them become President. Christian Mattingly, Governor of Michigan, beats Benson Rockefeller for the 2004 Republican nomination, losing by a very narrow margin to President Gore currently a stand-in. Robert O'Sullivan worked for the Kennedy White House as a special adviser before being fired by President Sanford in 1975. He goes on to work for Mednelik D'Israeli as Assistant Secretary of State (under Beauregard D'Israeli) and then as National Security Adviser. Jack Daniels is the guitarist for Wutevr, being elected to Congress from Nevada in 1988. He stages a surprisingly popular attempt at primarying President Gore in 2004, having attempted to win the nomination at other points including a 1996 run and later a 2008 run which would be marked by a surprisewin in New Hampshire and a win in Nevada. However, in the crowded field, he wouldn't be able to break out among the candidates and would lose to Vice-President Udall who, like his father, would sadly never reach the White House.

Benson Rockefeller never became President?

U R MEAN!

Hey, we didn't elect Jesus President either, did we? Don't worry, when the sky falls and all is revealed, we will see Benson Rockefeller standing there, at the right hand of the Lord of Hosts, coming with the host of angels and all of heaven behind him. Fear not, your Lord shall come.

[CathKhan]

2000

Vice-President Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN)/Senator Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) 287 electoral votes, 49.1% of the popular vote
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Senator Fred Thompson (R-TN) 251 electoral votes, 48.4% of the popular vote
Former White House Communications Director Patrick J Buchanan (Ref-VA)/Activist Ezola B Foster (Ref-CA) 0 electoral votes, 1.1% of the popular vote
Consumer Activist Ralph Nader (I-CT)/Native American Activist Winona La Duke (I-MN) 0 electoral votes, .9% of the popular vote

2004

Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY)/Governor John Ellis Bush (R-FL) 273 electoral votes, 48.6% of the popular vote
President Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN)/Vice-President Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) 265 electoral votes, 48.2% of the popular vote
Congressman Ron Paul (L/Ref/C-TX)/City Counciller Mark Owen (L-MI) 0 electoral votes,  1.7% of the popular vote
Consumer Activist Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Former Lieutenant Governor Candidate Peter Camejo (G-CA) 0 electoral votes, 1.1 % of the popular vote

More to come...

[CathKhan]

2008

President Rudolph W Giuliani (R-NY)/Vice-President John Ellis Bush (R-FL) 274 electoral votes, 49.9% of the popular vote
Senator Russell Feingold (D-WI)/Governor Bill Richardson (D-NM) 264 electoral votes, 49.7% of the popular vote

"Quite frankly, we were curbstomped out West. The election was hinging on basically three states: Arizona, New Jersey, and New Hampshire. It was only thanks to John that we got Arizona, while we invest heavily in the North-East, hoping for a pay-off. We were damn lucky"

[CathKhan]

2012

Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Governor Brian Schweitzer (D-MT) 304 electoral votes, 51.6% of the popular vote
Vice-President John Ellis Bush (R-FL)/Senator J. C. Watts (R-OK) 234 electoral votes, 48.1% of the popular vote

[ChairmanSanchez]

2008

President Rudolph W Giuliani (R-NY)/Vice-President John Ellis Bush (R-FL) 274 electoral votes, 49.9% of the popular vote
Senator Russell Feingold (D-WI)/Governor Bill Richardson (D-NM) 264 electoral votes, 49.7% of the popular vote

"Quite frankly, we were curbstomped out West. The election was hinging on basically three states: Arizona, New Jersey, and New Hampshire. It was only thanks to John that we got Arizona, while we invest heavily in the North-East, hoping for a pay-off. We were damn lucky"

Ron Paul wouldnt give 2008 another go?

[CathKhan]

2008

President Rudolph W Giuliani (R-NY)/Vice-President John Ellis Bush (R-FL) 274 electoral votes, 49.9% of the popular vote
Senator Russell Feingold (D-WI)/Governor Bill Richardson (D-NM) 264 electoral votes, 49.7% of the popular vote

"Quite frankly, we were curbstomped out West. The election was hinging on basically three states: Arizona, New Jersey, and New Hampshire. It was only thanks to John that we got Arizona, while we invest heavily in the North-East, hoping for a pay-off. We were damn lucky"

Ron Paul wouldnt give 2008 another go?

I was too damn lazy to give it another go, and Rudy's re-election depends on him having as many supporters as possible.

[CathKhan]

New Version of 2012

Senator Hillary Rodham-Clinton (D-NY)/Governor Brian Schweitzer (D-MT) 328 electoral votes, 51.1% of the popular vote
Vice-President John E Bush (R-FL)/Senator John Thun (R-SD) 207 electoral votes, 41.2% of the popular vote
Congressman Ronald E Paul (L-TX)/Former Governor Gary E Johnson (L-NM) 3 electoral votes, 7.3% of the popular vote

[OAM]

Having recently gotten back into Fallout, made a list of Presidents for the Verse.  Assume that all presidents are the same before the list starts.  Furthermore, the only things I've gotten from canon (IE not my own, fun speculation) is Nixon and the last three, though it did take me a very long time to make this "feel" right.

35.  John F. Kennedy (Democrat) (1961-1969)
36.  Richard Nixon (Republican) (1969-1974)[1]
37.  Spiro Agnew (Republican) (1974-1977)
38.  George Wallace (Democrat) (1977-1985)
39.  Jimmy Carter (Democrat) (1985-1989)
40.  Jack Kemp (Republican) (1989-1993)
41.  Bob Kerrey (Democrat) (1993-2001)
42.  Bill Bradley (Democrat) (2001-2009)
43.  John McCain (Republican) (2009-2015)[2]
44.  Mike Huckabee (Republican) (2015-2025)
45.  Anthony Weiner (Democrat) (2025-2031)[3]
46.  Charles Clinton (Democrat) (2031-2037)[4]
47.  Rob Paul (Republican) (2037-2045)[5]
48.  John Proffitt (Democrat) (2045-2053)[6]
49.  Randolph Richardson (Republican) (2053-2061)[7]
50.  Michael Daley (American) (2061-2077)[8][9][10][11]
51.  Randolph Richardson Jr. (American) (2077-2090)[12]
52.  William Richardson (none) (2090-2135)[13]
53.  William Richardson Jr. (none)  (2135-2159)
54.  Charles Richardson (none) (2159-2180)
55.  Richard Richardson (none) (2180-2220)[14]
56.  Richard Richardson Jr. (none) (2220-2242)[15]
57.  John Henry Eden (none) (2242-)[16]


[1] Resigned after facing impeachment charges over election fraud.
[2] Died in office of natural causes.
[3] Surprise stoke leads to removal, though he dies shortly thereafter.
[4] Chelsea was born male due to the butterfly effect.
[5] Yes, one of those Pauls.
[6] Future filler years, why not throw myself in.
[7] Reference to the canonolgical Richardsons later
[8] Related to the Chicago dynasty
[9] The American Party is formed in response to the Resource Wars, the dissolution of the UN, and all other kinds of nastiness that started in 2052 (canon events).  It takes time for them to build clout, though.
[10] War measures act grants sweeping power to the government and gets rid of term limits following the Chinese invasion of Alaska in 2066 (canon, at least the invasion)
[11] Dies in DC when the nukes finally come out on Oct 22, 2077 (event is canon)
[12] Son of former president.  In control of the shadow government when the bombs fell.  Establishment of the Richardson dynasty.  (kind of cannon)
[13] Parties done away with by this point.
[14] Canon character
[15] Killed by player character in Fallout 2
[16] Actually a supercomputer, can be killed by player in Fallout 3 (2277)

[I Am Feeblepizza.]

This is a little sans Watergate TL I've been fiddling with for awhile now:

List of Presidents/Vice Presidents
1969-1977: Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro Agnew (R-MD); Gerald Ford (R-MI)
1977-1981: John Connally (R-TX)/Phil Crane (R-IL)
1981-1989: Hugh Carey (D-NY)/William Proxmire (D-WI)
1989-1993: William Proxmire (D-WI)/Bill Clinton (D-AR)
1993-2001: Bill Armstrong (R-CO)/Jack Kemp (R-NY)
2001-2005: Jack Kemp (R-NY)/Richard Cheney (R-WY)
2005-2009: Wesley Clark (D-AR)/John Edwards (D-NC)
2009-current: John McCain (R-AZ)/Carly Fiorina (R-CA)

List of Losing Tickets (1976 and On)
1976: Frmr. Gov. Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Sen. Walter Mondale (D-MN); Sen. Charles Mathias (I-MD)/Senator Charles Percy (I-IL)
1980: Pres. John Connally (R-TX)/VP Phil Crane (R-IL); Rep. John Anderson (I-IL)/Frmr. Gov. Patrick Lucey (I-WI)
1984: Frmr. VP Phil Crane (R-IL)/Frmr. CIA Director George H.W. Bush (R-TX)
1988: Frmr. Senator Howard Baker (R-TN)/Frmr. Gov. Pierre S. du Pont IV (R-DE)
1992: VP Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Sen. Harris Wofford (D-PA); Businessman Ross Perot (I-TX)/Ret. Admiral James Stockdale (I-CA)
1996: Sen. Harris Wofford (D-PA)/Gov. Evan Bayh (D-IN); Businessman Ross Perot (Reform-TX)/Economist Pat Choate (Reform-DC)
2000: Sen. Al Gore (D-TN)/Sen. Zell Miller (D-GA)
2004: Treasury Sec. George W. Bush (R-TX)/VP Richard Cheney (R-WY)
2008: Pres. Wesley Clark (D-AR)/Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL)

[Communists For McCain]

Having recently gotten back into Fallout, made a list of Presidents for the Verse.  Assume that all presidents are the same before the list starts.  Furthermore, the only things I've gotten from canon (IE not my own, fun speculation) is Nixon and the last three, though it did take me a very long time to make this "feel" right.

35.  John F. Kennedy (Democrat) (1961-1969)
36.  Richard Nixon (Republican) (1969-1974)[1]
37.  Spiro Agnew (Republican) (1974-1977)
38.  George Wallace (Democrat) (1977-1985)
39.  Jimmy Carter (Democrat) (1985-1989)
40.  Jack Kemp (Republican) (1989-1993)
41.  Bob Kerrey (Democrat) (1993-2001)
42.  Bill Bradley (Democrat) (2001-2009)
43.  John McCain (Republican) (2009-2015)[2]
44.  Mike Huckabee (Republican) (2015-2025)
45.  Anthony Weiner (Democrat) (2025-2031)[3]
46.  Charles Clinton (Democrat) (2031-2037)[4]
47.  Rob Paul (Republican) (2037-2045)[5]
48.  John Proffitt (Democrat) (2045-2053)[6]
49.  Randolph Richardson (Republican) (2053-2061)[7]
50.  Michael Daley (American) (2061-2077)[8][9][10][11]
51.  Randolph Richardson Jr. (American) (2077-2090)[12]
52.  William Richardson (none) (2090-2135)[13]
53.  William Richardson Jr. (none)  (2135-2159)
54.  Charles Richardson (none) (2159-2180)
55.  Richard Richardson (none) (2180-2220)[14]
56.  Richard Richardson Jr. (none) (2220-2242)[15]
57.  John Henry Eden (none) (2242-)[16]


[1] Resigned after facing impeachment charges over election fraud.
[2] Died in office of natural causes.
[3] Surprise stoke leads to removal, though he dies shortly thereafter.
[4] Chelsea was born male due to the butterfly effect.
[5] Yes, one of those Pauls.
[6] Future filler years, why not throw myself in.
[7] Reference to the canonolgical Richardsons later
[8] Related to the Chicago dynasty
[9] The American Party is formed in response to the Resource Wars, the dissolution of the UN, and all other kinds of nastiness that started in 2052 (canon events).  It takes time for them to build clout, though.
[10] War measures act grants sweeping power to the government and gets rid of term limits following the Chinese invasion of Alaska in 2066 (canon, at least the invasion)
[11] Dies in DC when the nukes finally come out on Oct 22, 2077 (event is canon)
[12] Son of former president.  In control of the shadow government when the bombs fell.  Establishment of the Richardson dynasty.  (kind of cannon)
[13] Parties done away with by this point.
[14] Canon character
[15] Killed by player character in Fallout 2
[16] Actually a supercomputer, can be killed by player in Fallout 3 (2277)

Wow, yes.......this is amazing.

[NHI]

34. Dwight Eisenhower: 1953-1957
35. Richard Nixon: 1957-1961
36. John F. Kennedy: 1961-1963
37. Lyndon Johnson: 1963-1969
38. Ronald Reagan: 1969-1977
39. Bob Dole: 1977-1985
40. Mario Cuomo: 1985-1993
41. Bill Clinton: 1993-1997
42. Colin Powell: 1997-2005
43. John McCain: 2005-2013
44. Brian Schweitzer: 2013-2021

1956. Eisenhower decides to serve one term due to health reasons. Nixon wins against Stevenson.
1960. Nixon loses to the Kennedy in a close election.
1964. LBJ wins in a landslide against Barry Goldwater
1968. LBJ decides against reelection and Humphrey wins the nomination, only to be defeated by Ronald Reagan who becomes the first president since FDR to be elected to two consecutive terms.
1972. Reagan wins reelection against Ted Kennedy in a landslide.
1976. Rockefeller, Reagan's VP choses not to run for President, allowing Bob Dole and George H.W. Bush to become the Conservative ticket which defeats George McGovern.
1980. Blessed by a good economy and the crumbling of the soviet union Bob Dole wins reelection against Walter Mondale and Michael Dukakis.
1984: Mario Cuomo, the dark horse candidate topples Dukakis for the nomination and wins against George HW Bush.
1988. Mario Cuomo easily defeats Jack Kemp.
1992. Cuomo's VP Lloyd Bentsen is seen as passe by the Democrats, allowing Bill Clinton to run and win the nomination and the presidency. He defeats Lamar Alexander.
1996. Clinton's poor legislative accomplishments and a weak economy allows Colin Powell to defeat him, albeit narrowly.
2000. Powell easily is reelected thanks to a restored economy and a weak opponent in Al Gore.
2004. With America at war with Afghanistan and the majority of the country behind Pres. Powell, John McCain his vice president wins the election easily over Howard Dean.
2008. With the War in Afghanistan over by 2006 and Bin Laden dead, Pres. McCain is able to focus on his domestic agenda and easily defeats Bill Richardson for reelection.
2012. McCain's VP Mike Huckabee is narrowly defeated by Brian Schweitzer who becomes the first Democratic President since Bill Clinton.

[NHI]

1956:

R: 457 (57.9%)
D:  74 (41.0%)

1960:

D: 290 (49.5%)
R: 239 (49.4%)

1964:

D: 486 (61%)
R:   52  (37%)

1968:

R: 469 (58.8%)
D:  69 (40.2%)

1972:

R: 521 (62.0%)
D: 17  (35.9%)

1976:

R: 489 (58.4%)
D:  49 (40.8%)

1980:

R: 469 (57.5%)
D:  69 (42.9%)

1984:

D: 289 (50.1%)
R: 249 (48.9%)

1988:

D: 373 (53.4%)
R: 165 (45.2%)

1992:

D: 314 (51.1%)
R: 224 (46.9%)

1996:

R: 273 (49.60%)
D: 265 (49.45%)

2000:

R: 372 (56.6%)
D: 166 (45.4%)

2004:

D: 492 (58.9%)
R:  46 (40.4%)

2008:

R: 506 (60.0%)
D:  32 (38.6%)

2012:

D: 270 (49.3%)
R: 268 (49.4%)

[ChairmanSanchez]

Perot does a little better--a "map list".
(All credit to Cathcon for his map list, which was great )

Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Senator Al Gore (D-TE)-396 EV-35.6% of the popular vote.
President George Bush Sr. (R-TX)/Senator Bob Dole (R-KS)-128 EV-34.2% of the popular vote.
Businessman H. Ross Perot (I-TX)/Activist Pat Buchanan (I-VA)-14 EV-31.2% of the popular vote.
Perot refused to drop out after he claimed he was threatened by Republican operatives. When the threats were revealed to be true, RNC chair Richard Bond to resign. Dan Quayles repeated gaffes also hurt Bush, and he was replaced on the ticket with Senator Bob Dole, which turned out to be an even worse choice, due to his lack of charisma. Conservatives were turned off, and flocked to Perot when he picked Pat Buchanan as his running mate, running on a strongly protectionist ticket.

1996

President Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Vice President Al Gore (D-TE)-322 EV-39.4% of the popular vote.
Governor Carroll Campbell (R-SC)/Senator John McCain (R-AZ)-205 EV, 33.8% of the popular vote.
Businessman H.Ross Perot (Ref-TX)/Senator Jim Jeffords-11 EV, 27.8% (Ref-VT)

President Clinton was unpopular at the start of his term, and in 1994, Republicans took back the House of Representatives. During this time, Ross Perot organized the Reform Party, and managed to get 24 Reform Party candidates elected to the House. The Senate received its own first Reform Party member in the form of Jim Jeffords, of Vermont, who left the Republicans and registered as a Reform Party member. He; along with the Reform Party Congressmen, caucused with the Republicans. In 1996, the suprise winner of the GOP primaries was SC Governor Carroll Campbell, who defeated Phil Gramm and Dick Lugar in Iowa, and became the front runner. Campbell picked moderate Senator John McCain to be his running mate. Perot easily won the Reform Party nomination, and picked Jeffords as a running mate. This did not attract the same Conservative support from 1992, and cost him votes. President Clinton received no primary challenge, and was reelected over Campbell and Perot.

[ChairmanSanchez]

Perot does a little better-part 2.
2000

Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Governor Jeb Bush (R-FL)-273 EV, 38.9% of the popular vote.
Vice President Al Gore (D-TE)/Senator Paul Wellstone (D-MN)-247 EV, 34.1% of the popular vote.
Businessman H.Ross Perot (Ref-TX)/Businessman Donald Trump (Ref-NY)-18 EV, 27.0% of the popular vote.

In the second term of the Clinton Administration, scandal was king. Soon after President Clinton was reelected, a scandal involving the purchase of land in Montana rocked the nation, when it was revealed First Lady Hillary Clinton was involved in a deal to sell government owned land. Republicans were ecstatic..until House Speaker Newt Gingrich's extramarital affairs were revealed, and RNC Chairman George W Bush (who lost the 1994 Gubernatorial race in TX) and former Defense Secretary Dick Cheney were receiving kickbacks from Saudi Royalty. VP Gore refused to resign from the Clinton administration, standing by the President, even after his affair with Monica Lewinsky was revealed. This hurt him, and he barely survived primary challenges from Senator Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, and former Governor Evan Bayh, of Indiana. Senator McCain fought tooth and nail with Governor Gary Johnson for the GOP nomination, which he barely won. Perot was again the Reform Party nominee, and picked Donald Trump, of New York, as his running mate.

2004

President John McCain (R-AZ)/Vice President Jeb Bush (R-FL)-332 EV, 49.9% of the Popular Vote.
Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI)/Congressman Barack Obama (D-HI)-206 EV, 40.6% of the popular vote.
Activist Pat Buchanan (Ref-VA)/Congressman Ron Paul (Ref-TX)-10.5% of the popular vote.

President McCain received a surge of popularity after the 9/11 attacks, and afterwords, the US invasion of Pakistan, which was harboring Al Qeada, the group behind the attacks. However, after the botched bombing of Iraqi nuclear facilities, and an growing insurgency in Pakistan, McCains popularity was waining. The Democratic primaries were a battle between moderate Joe Biden and leftist Senator Russ Feingold, who eventually won. His pick of Congressman Barack Obama of Hawaii hurt him, as the two minority candidates turned off Dixiecrat voters in Georgia, Arkansas, West Virginia, and Tennessee. Several blue coller, anti war Democrats instead voted for Buchanan, who etched out 10% of the vote, and a second place finish in Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming.