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George W. Hobbes
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« on: March 02, 2007, 01:44:04 am »
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Dwight Eisenhower [R-PA] (1953-1955)
William F. Knowland [R-CA] (1955-1957)
Albert Gore, Sr. [D-TN] (1957-1965)
Barry Goldwater [R-AZ] (1965-1973)
Robert G. Baker [D-SC] (1973-1977)
Alan Greenspan [R-NY] (1977-1985)
John Seymour [R-CA] (1985-1989)
James Blanchard [D-MI] (1989-1995)
Chris Matthews [D-PA] (1995-1997)
Lynn “Longhorn Nolan” Ryan [R-TX] (1997-2005)
John Spencer [D-NJ] (2005-2006)
Clarence W. Nelson [D-FL] (2006-date)

This is for a TL I've been banding around in my head.  What do y'all think?
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2007, 11:02:23 am »
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Dwight Eisenhower [R-PA] (1953-1955)
William F. Knowland [R-CA] (1955-1957)
Albert Gore, Sr. [D-TN] (1957-1965)
Barry Goldwater [R-AZ] (1965-1973)
Robert G. Baker [D-SC] (1973-1977)
Alan Greenspan [R-NY] (1977-1985)
John Seymour [R-CA] (1985-1989)
James Blanchard [D-MI] (1989-1995)
Chris Matthews [D-PA] (1995-1997)
Lynn “Longhorn Nolan” Ryan [R-TX] (1997-2005)
John Spencer [D-NJ] (2005-2006)
Clarence W. Nelson [D-FL] (2006-date)

This is for a TL I've been banding around in my head.  What do y'all think?

Okay, I'll bite.  Who is John Spencer?
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2007, 11:57:56 am »
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Nolan Ryan - sweet!
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2007, 04:03:27 pm »
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interesting. Is that three presidential deaths I see?
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State Wins - 33/33
State Precentages - 27/33

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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2007, 10:15:43 pm »
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Nolan Ryan would be awesome
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George W. Hobbes
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2007, 11:46:57 pm »
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Next week I'm hoping to get some stuff out on this.
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2007, 12:45:49 pm »
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Alan Greenspan 1976-1985... does this Alan Greenspan's policies resemble more him in the 80s-90s ('Federal Reserve Dude' Greenspan) or him in the 60s ('Ayn Rand Groupie' Greenspan)? The latter would be fun....
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2007, 01:16:04 pm »
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35th: John F. Kennedy (1961-1963)
36th: Lyndon Johnson (1963-1969)
37th: Richard Nixon (1969-1977)
38th: Ronald Reagan (1977-1985)
39th: Bob Dole (1985-1993)
40th: Bill Clinton: (1993-2001)
41st: John McCain (2001-2009)

Just for the hell of it...no reason.
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2007, 03:00:49 pm »
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Alan Greenspan 1976-1985... does this Alan Greenspan's policies resemble more him in the 80s-90s ('Federal Reserve Dude' Greenspan) or him in the 60s ('Ayn Rand Groupie' Greenspan)? The latter would be fun....

I'm leaning toward the latter, actually...
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2007, 02:13:59 am »
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35th: John F. Kennedy (1961-1963)
36th: Lyndon Johnson (1963-1969)
37th: Richard Nixon (1969-1977)
38th: Ronald Reagan (1977-1985)
39th: Bob Dole (1985-1993)
40th: Bill Clinton: (1993-2001)
41st: John McCain (2001-2009)

Just for the hell of it...no reason.

That seems pretty reasonable for a sans Watergate scenario.
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State Wins - 33/33
State Precentages - 27/33

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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2007, 06:39:41 pm »
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Dwight Eisenhower [R-PA] (1953-1955)
William F. Knowland [R-CA] (1955-1957)
Albert Gore, Sr. [D-TN] (1957-1965)
Barry Goldwater [R-AZ] (1965-1973)
Robert G. Baker [D-SC] (1973-1977)
Alan Greenspan [R-NY] (1977-1985)
John Seymour [R-CA] (1985-1989)
James Blanchard [D-MI] (1989-1995)
Chris Matthews [D-PA] (1995-1997)
Lynn “Longhorn Nolan” Ryan [R-TX] (1997-2005)
John Spencer [D-NJ] (2005-2006)
Clarence W. Nelson [D-FL] (2006-date)

This is for a TL I've been banding around in my head.  What do y'all think?

You want Leo McGarry for president? How's that?
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2007, 09:07:40 pm »
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Here is a list of presidents which will make your head spin:

20. Winfield S. Hancock/William English, Democrat (1881-1889)
21. Levi Morton/Garret Hobart, Republican (1889-1897)
22. Garret Hobart/Robert Lincoln, Republican (1897-1898)
23. Robert Lincoln/John Hay, Republican (1898-1905)
24. Arthur MacArthur/Alton Parker, Democrat (1905-1912)
25. Alton Parker/Oswald West, Democrat (1912-1917)
26. Charles Hughes/Charles Hughes, Irvine Lenroot, Republican (1917-1929)
27. Irvine Lenroot/Charles Curtis, Republican (1929-1933)
28. John N. Garner/James Farley, Democrat (1933-1941)
29. James Farley/Cordell Hull, Democrat (1941-1949)
30. Thomas Dewey/John Bricker, Thurston Morton, Republican (1949-1965)
31. Pat Brown/Albert Gore, Democrat (1965-1973)
32. Albert Gore/Richard Hughes, Democrat (1973-1977)
33. Howard Baker/Phil Crane, Pete duPont (1977-1985)
24. Pete duPont/Robert Ray, Republican (1985-1993)
25. Bob Graham/Al Gore (1993-2001)
26. Tommy Thompson/Jack Kemp (2001-2005)
27. Wesley Clark/Ray Mabus (2005-Present)

How would a list of such thoroughly unremarkable men affect the presidency and the nation? Without either Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy, Nixon, Reagan, or either Bush, would the nation stay the same?
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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2007, 01:26:19 am »
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Here's a list of Presidents and Vice Presidents I'm using for my Quentin Roosevelt Survives WWI series. To view Chapter One of the series go to this website: Quentin Roosevelt Survives WWI

29. Herbert Hoover/Irvine Lenroot (R) 1921-1929
30. Warren Harding/William Borah (R) 1929-1933
31. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)/John Nance Garner (1933-1937)/Cordell Hull (1937-1939) 1933-1939
32. Cordell Hull/Millard Tydings (D) 1939-1945
33. Omar Bradley/Styles Bridges (1945-1949)/Quentin Roosevelt (1949-1953) (R) 1945-1953
34. Quentin Roosevelt/Richard Nixon (R) 1953-1961
35. Richard Nixon/Thurston B. Morton (R) 1961-1965
36. John F. Kennedy/Terry Sanford (1965-1969)/Hubert Humphrey (1969-1970) (D) 1965-1970
37. Hubert Humphrey/Abraham Ribicoff (D) 1970-1973
38. Ronald Reagan/Spiro Agnew (R) 1973-1974
39. Gerald R. Ford/George H.W. Bush (R) 1974-1977*
40. Robert F. Kennedy/Ruben Askew (D) 1977-1985
41. Howard Baker/Jack Kemp (R) 1985-1993
42. Bill Clinton/Al Gore (D) 1993-2001
43. Al Gore/Bob Graham (D) 2001-2005
44. John McCain/Fred Thompson (R) 2005-present day

*The asterix under Gerald Ford indicates that Gerald Ford assumed the Presidency after V.P. Agnew resigned and President Reagan had a heart attack in the same week. Speaker of the House, Ford became 39th President of the United States.
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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2007, 01:35:33 am »
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33. Howard Baker/Phil Crane, Pete duPont (1977-1985)

I commend the Pete duPont Party for its sudden rise to national prominence. Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2007, 08:48:09 pm »
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Just for fun...

1961 - 1969  John F. Kennedy (DEM)
1969 - 1977  Nelson Rockefeller (REP)
1977 - 1981  Henry M. Jackson (DEM)
1981 - 1989  John Anderson (REP)
1989 - 1997  Lloyd Bentsen (DEM)
1997 - 2001  Al Gore (REP)
2001 - 2005  John McCain (DEM)
2005 -           John Edwards (REP)

Yes, you read right, Gore REP, McCain DEM and Edwards REP. A Rockefeller Presidency results in the socially liberal wing of the Republican Party (they did exist then) taking over, meaning the Reagan revolution never happened, with Anderson's Presidency being a continuation of that trend; meanwhile, Jackson's Presidency results in the conservatives running in droves to the Democrats, the result being a vastly changed political landscape by the time we get to the 90s. Both parties would probably be more moderately-minded with rather little between them, comparable to, say, a European parliamentary democracy like Germany.
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One that I thought up of right now....

1933 - 1939 Franklin D. Roosevelt (DEM)
1939 - 1945 John Nance Garner (DEM)
1945 - 1949 Arthur Vandenberg (REP)
1949 - 1955 Dwight Eisenhower (DEM)
1955 - 1957 Alben W. Barkley (DEM)
1957 - 1965 Thomas Dewey (REP)
1965 - 1973 John F. Kennedy (DEM)
1973 - 1978 Richard Nixon (REP)
1978 - 1981 John Connally (REP)
1981 - 1985 Mo Udall (DEM)
1985 - 1993 Howard Baker (REP)
1993 - 2001 Bill Bradley (DEM)
2001 - 2005 Jeb Bush (REP)
2005 -          Bill Richardson (DEM)             
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« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2009, 05:12:09 pm »
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I started working on a time line awhile ago that following these Presidents but I ended up abandoning it.

1974 - 1977 President Gerald Ford/Vice President Nelson Rockefeller
1977 - 1981 President Jimmy Carter/Vice President Walter Mondale
1981 - 1981 President Ronald Reagan*/Vice President Gerald Ford
1981 - 1985 President Gerald Ford/Vice President Howard Baker
1985 - 1993 President Howard Baker/Vice President George Bush

1993 - 2001 President Al Gore/Vice President Dick Gephardt
2001 - 2005 President Dick Gephardt/Vice President Bill Bradley

2005 - ? ? ?  President John McCain/Vice President Tom Ridge

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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2009, 05:18:38 pm »
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Here's one:

29th: Al Smith (Democratic - New York): 1929-1933
30th: Robert M. La Follette, Jr. (Republican - Wisconsin): 1933-1941
31st: Morgan Larson (Republican - New Jersey): 1941-1949

32nd: Harley Kilgore (Democratic - West Virginia): 1949-1953
33rd: George Aiken (Republican - Vermont): 1953-1961
34th: Frank Clement (Democratic - Tennessee): 1961-1969
35th: Hubert Humphrey (Republican - Minnesota): 1969-1977
36th: Nelson Rockefeller (Republican - New York): 1977-1982
37th: Howard Baker (Republican - Tennessee): 1982-1989

38th: Dale Bumpers (Democratic - Arkansas): 1989-1997
39th: Jim Sasser (Democratic - Tennessee): 1997-2001

40th: John McCain (Republican - Arizona): 2001-2009
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37th: President Richard Nixon/Vice President Spiro Agnew - 1969-1973
                                               /Vice President George H.W. Bush - 1973-1974

38th: President George H.W. Bush/Vice President Gerald Ford - 1974-1977
39th: President James Earl Carter/Vice President Walter Mondale - 1977-1981
40th: President Ronald Reagan/Vice President Howard Baker - 1981-1989
41st: President Howard Baker/Vice President Jack Kemp - 1989-1997
42nd: President Albert Gore, Jr./Vice President John Kerry - 1997-2005
43rd: President John Ellis Bush/Vice President Rudolph Giuliani - 2005-Present

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« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2009, 09:54:23 pm »
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28. Theodore Roosevelt 1913-1919
29. Gifford Pinchot 1919-1921
30. James M. Cox 1921-1929
31. Al Smith 1929-1937
32. John W. Bricker 1937-1941
33. Huey Long 1941-1953
34. Dwight D. Eisenhower 1953-1961
35. Adlai Stevenson 1961-1962
36. Henry Jackson 1962-1965
37. Henry C. Lodge 1965-1969
38. Robert F. Kennedy 1969-1977
39. Henry Jackson 1977-1981
40. Ronald Reagan 1981-1989
41. George H.W. Bush 1989-1997
42. Robert Dole 1997-2001
43. Paul Wellstone 2001-2009

I call Mine, the flourishing of Liberalism, and Reagan is is too a liberal in this one. But a arch-conservative on economics.
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Here's one:

29th: Al Smith (Democratic - New York): 1929-1933
30th: Robert M. La Follette, Jr. (Republican - Wisconsin): 1933-1941
31st: Morgan Larson (Republican - New Jersey): 1941-1949

32nd: Harley Kilgore (Democratic - West Virginia): 1949-1953
33rd: George Aiken (Republican - Vermont): 1953-1961
34th: Frank Clement (Democratic - Tennessee): 1961-1969
35th: Hubert Humphrey (Republican - Minnesota): 1969-1977
36th: Nelson Rockefeller (Republican - New York): 1977-1982
37th: Howard Baker (Republican - Tennessee): 1982-1989

38th: Dale Bumpers (Democratic - Arkansas): 1989-1997
39th: Jim Sasser (Democratic - Tennessee): 1997-2001

40th: John McCain (Republican - Arizona): 2001-2009

I love this
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« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2009, 11:58:01 pm »
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25th: William Jennings Bryan (Democrat-Nebraska) 1897-1905
26th: Joseph Cannon (Republican-Illinois) 1905-1913
27th: Charles Hughes (Republican- New York) 1913-1921
28th: James Cox (Democrat-Ohio) 1921-1929
29th: Andrew Mellon (Republican-Pennsylvania) 1929-1933
30th: Cordell Hull (Democrat-Tennessee) 1933-1941
31st: Arthur Vandenberg  (Republican-Michigan) 1941-1949
32nd: Robert Taft (Republican-Ohio) 1949-1953
33rd: Estes Kefauver (Democrat-Tennessee) 1953-1961
34th: Henry Cabot Lodge (Republican-Massachusetts) 1961-1969
35th:Albert Rosellini (Democrat-Washington) 1969-1973
36th: Nelson Rockefeller (Republican-New York) 1973-1979
37th: John Anderson (Republican-Illinois) 1979-1985
38th: Gary Hart (Democrat-Colorado) 1985-1989
39th: Bob Dole (Republican-Kansas) 1989-1997
40th: Douglas Wilder (Democrat-Virginia) 1997-2005
41st: Jeb Bush (Republican-Florida) 2005-2009
42nd: Maria Cantwell (Democrat-Washington) 2009-???
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« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2009, 08:05:17 am »
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Liberal hack list:

1974-1981: Gerald Ford (R)
1981-1989: Ted Kennedy (D)
1989-1993: Bob Dole (R)
1993-2001: Bill Clinton (D)
2001-2005: Al Gore (D)
2005-2009: John McCain (R)
2009- : Barack Obama (D)


Conservative hack list:

1974-1977: Gerald Ford (R)
1977-1985: Ronald Reagan (R)
1985-1989: Richard Schweiker (R)
1989-1993: Gary Hart (D)
1993-2001: Bob Dole (R)
2001-2009: Joe Lieberman (D)
2009- : John McCain (R)
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« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2009, 10:34:47 am »
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Actors as presidents!

1961-1969: John Wayne (R)
1969-1977: Henry Fonda (D)
1977-1981: Ronald Reagan (R)
1981-1989: Robert Redford (D)
1989-1993: Dustin Hoffman (D)
1993-2001: James Woods (R)
2001-2009: Martin Sheen (D)
2009- : Ron Silver (R)


Also, John McCain is playing a (Democratic) president on "24" in this alternate timeline.
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