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« Reply #775 on: April 06, 2011, 08:40:25 am »
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Cathcon, these lists are always hackish, whether intentionally or unintentionally.

I guess so. I'd like to think I've gotten better since then, though...

Yes, you certainly have. Would you have put John Anderson in the Oval Office when you first wrote the INCREDIBLY HACKISH scenario?

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make...

I mean you're not a hopeless right wing hack anymore.
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« Reply #776 on: April 06, 2011, 01:28:30 pm »
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The century of weak, one term Presidents.

1900 - William Jennings Bryan*1 / Adlai E. Stevenson I
1904 - Alton Parker*2 / Henry Davis
1908 - William Jennings Bryan / John W. Kern

1912 - Theodore Roosevelt / Hiram Johnson
1920 - James M. Cox / Franklin D. Roosevelt
1924 - John W. Davis / Charles W. Bryan
1928 - Alfred E. Smith / Joseph T. Robinson
1932 - Herbet Hoover / Charles Curtis
1936 - Alf Landon / Frank Knox
1940 - Wendell Wilkie / Charles McNary
1944 - Thomas Dewey / John Bricker
1948 - Thomas Dewey / Earl Warren

1952 - Adlai E. Stevenson II / John Sparkman
1956 - Adlai E. Stevenson II / Estes Kefauver

1960 - Richard Nixon / Henry Cabot Lodge
1964 - Barry Goldwater / William E. Miller

1968 - Hubert Humphrey / Edmund Muskie
1972 - George McGovern / Sargent Shriver

1976 - Gerald Ford / Bob Dole
1980 - Jimmy Carter / Walter Mondale
1984 - Walter Mondale / Geraldine Ferraro
1988 - Michael Dukakis / Lloyd Bentsen

1992 - George H.W Bush / Dan Quayle
1996 - Bob Dole / Jack Kemp

2000 - Al Gore / Joseph Lieberman
2004 - John Kerry / John Edwards
2008 - John McCain / Sarah Palin

1 - Bryan pledges to serve only one term. Stevenson does not pursue the nomination.
2 - Bryan challenges unpopular Parker in the primary and defeats him.
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« Reply #777 on: April 06, 2011, 01:29:58 pm »
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You're just taking the election's losers and making them the winners, besides, Adlai E Stevenson's Presidency is two terms.
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« Reply #778 on: April 07, 2011, 02:18:45 pm »
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You're just taking the election's losers and making them the winners, besides, Adlai E Stevenson's Presidency is two terms.

Yuppers. I did, its mostly one termers though.
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« Reply #779 on: April 14, 2011, 08:30:54 pm »
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I always keep wanting to make more lists and have a couple of ideas, but half-way through making the list, I look at my most recent part of the list and ask myself "am I really proud of that?" and the list fails.
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« Reply #780 on: April 14, 2011, 08:34:07 pm »
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I always keep wanting to make more lists and have a couple of ideas, but half-way through making the list, I look at my most recent part of the list and ask myself "am I really proud of that?" and the list fails.
I always peter off for fear that I'm being unrealistic.
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« Reply #781 on: April 14, 2011, 08:51:23 pm »
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TR in 1912, with both other parties intact
(as opposed to an earlier one I made with Moderate and Conservative parties rising in opposition)

28. Theodore Roosevelt (P-NY)/Hiram Johnson (P-NY) 1913-1921
29. Joseph Robinson (D-AR)/Newton D Baker (D-OH) 1921-1929
30. Calvin Coolidge (R-MA)/Henry Ford (R-MI) 1929-1933
31. Franklin D Roosevelt (P-NY)/Burton K Wheeler (P-ID) 1933-1941
32. Cordell Hull (D-TN)/Joseph P Kennedy Sr. (D-MA) 1941-1949
33. Robert Taft (R-OH)/Thomas Dewey (R-NY) 1949-1953
34. Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/vacant 1953-1957

35. Richard Russell (D-GA)/Lyndon B Johnson (D-TX) 1957-1961
36. Hubert H Humphrey (P-MN)/Nelson Rockefeller (P-NY) 1961-1973
37. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)/Mark O Hatfield (R-OR) 1973-1976
38. Mark O Hatfield (R-OR)/vacant, Robert Taft Jr. (R-OH) 1976-1981

39. John Tower (D-TX)/John Ashbrook (D-OH) 1981-1989
40. John D "Jay" Rockefeller IV (P-NY)/Warren Beatty (P-CA) 1989-1993
41. H Ross Perot (R-TX)/Edmund G "Jerry" Brown Jr. (R-CA) 1993-1997
41. Paul Wellstone (P-MN)/Winthrop Paul Rockefeller (P-AR) 1997-2001
42. Phil Gramm (D-TX)/Michael Huckabee (D-AR) 2001-2009
43. Gary E Johnson (R-NM)/Brian Schweitzer (R-MT) 2009-Present
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« Reply #782 on: April 15, 2011, 03:40:01 pm »
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1900-William Jennings Bryan/Adlai Stevenson I*
1901-Adlai Stevenson/vacant
1904-Theodore Roosevelt/Robert Hitt
1908-Theodore Roosevelt/Robert Hitt

1912-Alton Parker/William Taft
1916-Alton Parker/William Taft

1920-Theodore Roosevelt/Robert LaFollette
1924-Theodore Roosevelt/Hiram Johnson

1928-Hiram Johnson/Franklin Roosevelt
1932-Herbert Hoover/Calvin Coolidge
1936-Herbert Hoover/Styles Bridges

1940-Franklin Roosevelt/Henry Wallace
1944-Franklin Roosevelt/Henry Wallace**
1945-Henry Wallace/vacant

1948-Strom Thurmond/Robert Taft***
1950-Robert Taft/vacant
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1952-Adlai Stevenson II/Henry Wallace
1956-Adlai Stevenson II/Joseph Kennedy Jr.

1960-Harry Byrd/George Wallace
1964-Nelson Rockefeller/Lyndon Johnson
1968-Nelson Rockefeller/Richard Nixon

1972-Barry Goldwater/George Wallace****
1975-George Wallace/vacant
1976-Ronald Reagan/Gerald Ford

1980-John Anderson/Jay Rockefeller
1984-John Anderson/Walter Mondale

1988-Gerald Ford/Alexander Haig
1992-Al Gore/Geraldine Ferraro
1996-Al Gore/Geraldine Ferraro

2000-Jack Kemp/Pete Wilson
2004-Jack Kemp/Pete Wilson

2008-Hillary Rodham/Tim Pawlenty
2012-Bobby Jindall/Allen West
2016-Bobby Jindall/Allen West

2020-Charlie Crist/Gavin Newsom

*-Assassinated.
**-Dies in office
***-Assassinated
****-Assassinated.
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« Reply #783 on: April 15, 2011, 04:45:03 pm »
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A Gift from Mongkut: The Story of the American Elephant

16. Abraham Lincoln (R-IL) March 4, 1861 - April 15, 1865*
17. Andrew Johnson (D/NU-TN) April 15, 1865 - March 4, 1869
18. Ulysses S. Grant (R-IL) March 4, 1869 - March 4, 1877
19. Rutherford B. Hayes (R-OH) March 4, 1877 - March 4, 1881
20. George A. Custer (D-OH) March 4, 1881 - March 4, 1885
21. James A. Garfield (R-OH) March 4, 1885 - March 4, 1893
22. John Davis Long (R-MA) March 4, 1893 - March 4, 1901
23. George Dewey (D-VT) March 4, 1901 - March 4, 1905
24. Joseph B. Foraker (R-OH) March 4, 1905 - March 4, 1913
25. John "Jack" J. Pershing (R-NY) March 4, 1913 - March 4, 1921
26. Alfred "Al" E. Smith, Jr. (D-NY) March 4, 1921 - March 4, 1929***
27. Charles Curtis (R-KS) March 4, 1929 - March 4, 1933***
28. John N. Garner IV (D-TX) March 4, 1933 - January 20, 1937
29. Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt, Jr. (R-NY) January 20, 1937 - July 12, 1944*
30. Arthur H. Vandenberg (R-MI) July 12, 1944 - January 20, 1949
31. Douglas MacArthur (D-NY) January 20, 1949 - January 20, 1957
32. Joseph "Joe" P. Kennedy, Jr. (D-MA) January 20, 1957 - January 20, 1961
33. William "Billy" G. Stratton (R-IL) January 20, 1961 - January 20, 1969
34. George C. Wallace, Jr. (D-AL) January 20, 1969 - May 17, 1974****
35. Frank J. Lausche (D-OH) May 17, 1974 - January 20, 1977
36. George H.W. Bush (R-CT) January 20, 1977 - January 20, 1981
37. Reubin O'Donovan Askew (D-FL) January 20, 1981 - January 20, 1985
38. Sidney Poitier (R-NY) January 20, 1985 - January 20, 1993***
39. Zell B. Miller (D-GA) January 20, 1993 - January 20, 1997
40. George W. Bush (R-CT) January 20, 1997 - January 20, 2005
41. Mary L. Landrieu (D-LA) January 20, 2005 - January 20, 2009***
42. John E. Bush (R-TX) January 20, 2009 - Current***

**Assassinated by John Wilkes Booth at Ford's Theater.
***First Roman Catholic POTUS.
***First recognized Non-European Descent POTUS.
*Died of a heart attack as President.
****Resigned from office after corruption charges.
***First African American POTUS.
***First Female POTUS.
***Second Son of a former President to become POTUS.
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« Reply #784 on: April 15, 2011, 09:14:47 pm »
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Point of Divergence: (Remember a little while ago when I began a timeline where George McGovern was elected President in 1972? Well, this was to be the proposed list; even though the timeline was to finish by January 1977. Therefore, after President Brown and maybe President Hart, the list is not to be taken seriously). Richard Nixon dies suddenly on August 15, 1971 at Camp David, allowing Spiro Agnew to assume the Presidency.

Presidents of the United States
37. Richard M. Nixon (R-CA): 1969-1971
38. T. Spiro Agnew (R-MD): 1971-1973
39. George S. McGovern (D-SD): 1973-1977
40. Ronald Reagan (R-CA): 1977-1981
41. Edmund G. Brown, Jr. (D-CA): 1981-1989
42. Gary Hart (D-CO): 1989-1993
43. Clint Eastwood (R-CA): 1993-2001
44. Steve Forbes (R-NJ): 2001-2005
45. Howard Dean (D-VT): 2005-2009
46. Gary Coleman (R-CA): 2009-Present
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Point of Divergence: (Remember a little while ago when I began a timeline where George McGovern was elected President in 1972? Well, this was to be the proposed list; even though the timeline was to finish by January 1977. Therefore, after President Brown and maybe President Hart, the list is not to be taken seriously). Richard Nixon dies suddenly on August 15, 1971 at Camp David, allowing Spiro Agnew to assume the Presidency.

Presidents of the United States
37. Richard M. Nixon (R-CA): 1969-1971
38. T. Spiro Agnew (R-MD): 1971-1973
39. George S. McGovern (D-SD): 1973-1977
40. Ronald Reagan (R-CA): 1977-1981
41. Edmund G. Brown, Jr. (D-CA): 1981-1989
42. Gary Hart (D-CO): 1989-1993
43. Clint Eastwood (R-CA): 1993-2001
44. Steve Forbes (R-NJ): 2001-2005
45. Howard Dean (D-VT): 2005-2009
46. Gary Coleman (R-CA): 2009-Present
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37. Richard M. Nixon (R-NY) January 20th, 1969 - January 20th, 1973
38. George S. McGovern (D-SD) January 20th, 1973 - January 20th, 1977
39. Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA) January 20th, 1977 - January 20th, 1981
40. Edward "Ted" M. Kennedy (D-MA) January 20th, 1981 - March 30th, 1981
41. C. Clifton "Cliff" Finch (D-MS) March 30th, 1981 - January 20th, 1985
42. Paul D. Laxalt (R-NV) January 20th, 1985 - January 20th, 1993
43. Paul E. Tsongas (D-MA) January 20th, 1993 - January 18th, 1997
44. D. Robert "Bob" Graham (D-FL) January 18th, 1997 - January 20th, 2001
45. John S. McCain III (R-AZ) January 20th, 2001 - January 20th, 2009
46. Nicola "Niki" D. S. Tsongas (D-MA) January 20th, 2009 - Current Date
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Rockefeller Republicans, Kennedy Democrats

25. Nelson W Aldrich (R-RI)/Robert T Lincoln (R-IL) March 4, 1897-September 14, 1901
26. Robert T Lincoln (R-IL)/vacant, Mark Hanna (R-OH) September 14 1901-March 4, 1909

27. William Jennings Bryan (D-NE)/John A Johnson (D-ME) March 4, 1909-March 4, 1913
28. Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY)/Henry Cabot Lodge (R-MA) March 4, 1913-June 27, 1922
29. Henry Cabot Lodge (R-MA)/vacant June 27, 1922-March 4, 1925

30. John F Fitzgerald (D-MA)/John W Davis (D-OH) March 4, 1925-March 4, 1933
30. Charles Curtis (R-KS)/Theodore Roosevelt Jr. (R-NY) March 4, 1933-January 20th, 1941
31. Joseph P Kennedy (D-MA)/Cordell Hull (D-TN) January 20th, 1941-December 24, 1943
32. Cordell Hull (D-TN)/vacant, Franklin D Roosevelt (D-NY) December 24, 1943-January 20, 1949

33. Earl Warren (R-CA)/Thomas Dewey (R-NY) January 20, 1949-January 20, 1953
34. Adlai E Stevenson (D-IL)/Joe Kennedy Jr. (D-MA) January 20, 1953-January 20, 1957
35. Nelson A Rockefeller (R-NY)/Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R-MA) January 20, 1957-February 13, 1968
36. Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R-MA) February 13, 1968-January 20, 1969

37. John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Ronald W Reagan (D-CA) January 20, 1969-January 20, 1977
38. Winthrop Rockefeller (R-AR)/Gerald R Ford (R-MI) January 20, 1977-January 20, 1981
39. Robert F Kennedy (D-NY)/David Boren (D-OK) January 20, 1981-January 20, 1989
40. John D "Jay" Rockefeller IV (R-WV)/John Anderson (R-IL) January 20, 1989-January 20, 1997
41. Joseph P Kennedy III (D-MA)/Zell Miller (D-GA) January 20, 1997-January 20, 2005
42. Winthrop P Rockefeller (R-AR)/Lincoln Chaffee (R-RI) January 20, 2005-July 16th, 2006
43. Lincoln Chaffee (R-RI)/Colin Powell (R-PA) July 16, 2006-January 20, 2009

44. John F Kennedy Jr. (D-NY)/Evan Bayh (D-IN) January 20, 2009-Present
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« Reply #787 on: April 22, 2011, 05:28:10 pm »
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The Way of the Whigs
This is a very uninformed attempt at a list involving the survival of the Whig Party.

10. John Tyler (D-VA)/vacant April 4, 1841-March 4, 1845
11. Henry Clay (W-KT)/Theodore Frelinghuysen (W-NJ) March 4, 1845-June 29, 1852
12. Theodore Frelinghuysen (W-NJ)/vacant June 29, 1852-March 4, 1853

13. William L Marcy (D-NY)/Stephen A Douglas (D-IL) March 4, 1853-July 4, 1857
14. Stephen A Douglas (D-IL)/vacant July 4, 1857-March 4, 1861
15. Samuel Houston (D-TX)/Daniel S Dickinson (D-NY) March 4, 1861-July 26, 1863
16. Daniel S Dickinson (D-NY)/vacant July 26, 1863-March 4, 1865

17. Abraham Lincoln (W-IL)/Cassius M Clay (W-KT) March 4, 1865-March 4, 1873
18. Joshua L Chamberlain (W-ME)/Alphonso Taft (W-OH) March 4, 1873-March 4, 1881

19. Adlai E Stevenson I (D-IL)/Winfield S Hancock (D-PA) March 4, 1881-July 2, 1881
20. Winfiled S Hancock (D-PA)/vacant, Thomas A Hendrick (D-IN) July 2, 1881-February 9, 1886
21. Thomas A Hendrick (D-IN)/vacant February 9, 1886-March 4, 1889

22. John Sherman (W-OH)/William B Allison (W-IA) March 4, 1889-March 4, 1893
22. Grover Cleveland (D-NY)/John M Palmer (D-IL) March 4, 1889-March 4, 1897
23. Robert T Lincoln (W-IL)/Henry Clay Evans (W-TN) March 4, 1897-September 14, 1901
24. Henry Clay Evans (W-TN)/vacant September 14, 1901-March 4, 1905

25. Alton B Parker (D-NY)/John S Williams (D-MS) March 4, 1905-March 4, 1913
26. William Howard Taft (W-OH)/John W Weeks (W-MA) March 4, 1913-March 4, 1917
27. John S Williams (D-MS)/George McClellan Jr. (D-NY) March 4, 1917-March 4, 1921
28. Theodore Roosevelt (W-NY)/Hiram Johnson (W-CA) March 4, 1921-September 7, 1927
29. Hiram Johnson (W-CA)/vacant, Robert La Follette (W-WI) September 7, 1927-March 4, 1933

30. John Nance Garner (D-TX)/Alfred E Smith (D-NY) March 4, 1933-March 4, 1941
31. Franklin D Roosevelt (W-NY)/Robert Taft (W-OH) March 4, 1941-October 14, 1946
32. Robert Taft (W-OH)/vacant October 14, 1946-March 4, 1949
33. Earl Warren (W-CA)/Henry A Wallace (W-IA) March 4, 1949-January 15, 1953

34. Lyndon B Johnson (D-TX)/Joseph P Kennedy Jr. (D-MA) January 15, 1953-January 15, 1957
35. Hubert H Humphrey (W-MN)/Thomas Dewey (W-NY) January 15, 1957-January 15, 1965
36. Nelson Rockefeller (W-NY)/Margaret Chase Smith (W-ME) January 15, 1965-January 15, 1973

37. Henry M Jackson (D-WA)/Ronald W Reagan (D-CA) January 15, 1973-January 15, 1981
38. George McGovern (W-SD)/Gary Hartpence (W-CO) January 15, 1981-January 15, 1989
39. Robert F Kennedy (D-NY)/Paul Tsongas (D-MA) January 15, 1989-January 15, 1997
38. David Eisenhower (W-NY)/Winona La Duke (W-CA) January 15, 1997-January 15, 2001
39. Ann Richards (D-TX)/John F Kennedy Jr. (D-MA) January 15, 2001-March 26, 2003
40. John F Kennedy Jr. (D-MA)/vacant, Herman Cain (D-GA) March 26, 2003-Present


11. Senator Henry Clay wins the 1844 election, thus re-booting the Whig Party.
15. National hero and Governor of two states Sam Houston would win the Whitehouse, only to die two years later.
17. The election of Abraham Lincoln, a Clay protege and a campaigner for the abolition of slavery, would cause the South to attempt secession, leading to the Civil War. The South, called the Republican States of America, or RSA, would last for only six years before the North, or the Union, would win out, cementing Lincoln in American history books for all time.
28. With the election of Theodore Roosevelt, a generally Conservative time in America's history would come to an end. The Whig party, amongst infighting between Liberal and Conservative factions, would begin its shift leftward. Before that, both parties had been generally Conservative. However, that time was coming to an end with the final polarization of America's political system.
31. Continuing the Whig party's leftward drift, Governor Franklin D Roosevelt would be elected President. He would be incredibly popular, however his reign would end in the middle of his second term.
32. The son of a President and the grand-son of a Vice-President, Robert Taft had a lot of pressure on him, and not just from his family's legacy. His selectiona s Vice-President in the first place had been to appease the Conservative wing of the Whig party, and by 1948, he would fail to even win re-nomination. It would instead go to Progressive Earl Warren.
33. As President, Earl Warren was able to pass a constitutional amendment making the date of Presidential inauguration January 15th instead of March 4th. He wouldn't have pushed for it had he known he'd be cutting his own Presidency to less than four years.
39. The nation's first Catholic President, RFK had come from an immense political background trailing back to the 1950's. His grand-fathers had been Massachusetts politicians, his father had been Commerce Secretary in the Garner administration, his oldest brother had been Vice-President, another brother had been Secretary of State and other members of his family had served in various elected and appointed positions. He himself had been Director of the FBI 1953-1957, Congressman 1957-1968, Senator 1969-1978, and Governor 1979-1987. His election would makr a shift back to Conservatism for the country after the largely Progressive period from 1920 to 1988.

Of course, several possible options exist as to how the Whig Party might go: Conservative, Liberal, Libertarian, Populist. This is just a possibility, and a slim one at that.
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« Reply #788 on: April 22, 2011, 05:39:22 pm »
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While people usually do Libertarian Republicans v Populist Democrats, I'm going to try:
Libertarian Democrats v Authoritarian Republicans
Granted, it won't be as easy as the alternative.

32. Alfred E Smith (D-NY)/John Nance Garner (D-TX) 1933-1941
33. Theodore Roosevelt Jr. (R-NY)/Joseph W Martin (R-MA) 1941-1945
34. Joseph W Martin (R-MA)/vacant, 1945-1949

35. John Sparkman (D-AL)/Robert S Kerr (D-OK) 1949-1953
36. Earl Warren (R-CA)/Thomas Dewey (R-NY) 1953-1961
37. Eugene McCarthy (D-MN)/Stuart Symington (D-MO) 1961-1969
38. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Richard M Nixon (R-CA) 1969-1975
39. Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/vacant 1975-1977

40. Edmund G "Jerry" Brown Jr. (D-CA)/Maurrice K "Mike" Gravel (D-AK) 1977-1985
41. Robert Dole (R-KS)/George HW Bush (R-TX) 1985-1989
42. Paul Tsongas (D-MA)/Gary Hart (D-CO) 1989-1997
43. Richard Cheney (R-WY)/John McCain (R-AZ) 1997-2005
44. William Richardson (D-NM)/Howard Dean (D-VT) 2005-Present
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Champ Clark - 1913-21 [1]
Thomas R Marshall - 1921 2-4 Mar [2]
Frank O Lowden - 1921-27 [3]
Herbert Hoover - 1927-33
Alfred E Smith - 1933-39
Franklin D Roosevelt - 1939-45

Thomas E Dewey - 1945-51
Adlai E Stevenson - 1951-57
John F Kennedy - 1957-63
John H Glenn - 1963-69
Robert A Taft, Jr - 1969-75
Ronald W Reagan - 1975-81
Lloyd W Bentsen - 1981-87
George H W Bush - 1987-93
William J Blythe - 1993-99
John F Kennedy, Jr - 1999-2005
Champ Clark III - 2005-11
Mitt Romney - 2011 -

[1] Last President elected for (two) four year terms. The 18th Amendment, restricting Presidents to a single six-year term, was passed when he was President-elect, but at his urging was made applicable only from the 1920 election. "When the American people elected me last November, they did so for a term of four years, which should not be retrospectively extended".

Clark's first term was controversial, notably for the "war scare" of 1914/15 when the US came close to hostilities with Britain over his refusal to permit the inspection of American mails or the seizure of foodstuffs and other items not generally recognised as contraband of war, which he enforced by encouraging American merchantmen to travel in convoy under the protection of the US Navy. Later, this practice was also used to protect American shipping against possible attack by German u-boats (no such attacks were made), and extended to passenger liners of all nationalities providing they carried no contraband. When it was suggested that the latter action was questionable in international law, Clark replied "If belligerants are allowed to bend the rules because they reckon that conditions have changed, then I don't see why neutrals shouldn't". He maintained US neutrality until the end of the war, and after the German victory on the European continent, peace between the Central Powers and the British and Japanese Empires was negotiated in Baltimore.

Clark was re-elected in 1916, defeating Republican Elihu Root, but was unable to secure the election of a Democratic successor. He died two days before the expiry of his second term in 1921

[2] Vice President on death of Clark. His two day tenure is likely to stand for a long time as the shortest in American history.

[3] First President elected for a six-year term under the 18th Amendment.
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Champ Clark - 1913-21 [1]
Thomas R Marshall - 1921 2-4 Mar [2]
Frank O Lowden - 1921-27 [3]
Herbert Hoover - 1927-33
Alfred E Smith - 1933-39
Franklin D Roosevelt - 1939-45

Thomas E Dewey - 1945-51
Adlai E Stevenson - 1951-57
John F Kennedy - 1957-63
John H Glenn - 1963-69
Robert A Taft, Jr - 1969-75
Ronald W Reagan - 1975-81
Lloyd W Bentsen - 1981-87
George H W Bush - 1987-93
William J Blythe - 1993-99
John F Kennedy, Jr - 1999-2005
Champ Clark III - 2005-11
Mitt Romney - 2011 -

Great list. I'd really like to see a timeline about it some day.
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In the Shadow of a Bull Moose
"From the election of Teddy Roosevelt in 1912, to the American intervention in the Great War in 1915, to the invasion of Germany proper in 1918, to a victorious Soviet Union over Poland and the ignition of the 2nd Great War by the Soviet Union in the 1930's, to the long cold war between a democratic America and a fascist Europe, the whole world stands in the shadow of a bull moose".

28. Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt (P-NY) March 4, 1913 - January 6, 1919*
29. Hiram W. Johnson (P-CA) January 6, 1919 - March 4, 1921
30. Alexander M. Palmer (D-PA) March 4, 1921 - March 4, 1929
31. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY) March 4, 1929 - March 4, 1933
32. Herbert C. Hoover (P-CA) March 4, 1933 - January 20, 1937
33. Henry S. Breckinridge (D-NY) January 20, 1937 - January 20, 1941
34. Harold L. Ickes (P-IL) January 20, 1941 - January 20, 1949
35. Alice L. Roosevelt-Borah (P-NY) January 20, 1949 - January 20, 1953***
36. George C. Marshall (D-VA) January 20, 1953 - October 16, 1959*
37. Joseph "Joe" P. Kennedy, Jr. (D-MA) October 16, 1959 - January 20, 1965***
38. Nelson A. Rockefeller (P-NY) January 20, 1965 - April 14, 1972**
39. Hubert H. Humphrey, Jr. (P-MN) April 14, 1972 - January 20, 1973
40. James "Jimmy" M. Stewart (D-CA) January 20, 1973 - January 20, 1981
41. Morris "Mo" K. Udall (P-AZ) January 20, 1981 - January 20, 1989***
42. Charles M. "Mac" Mathias, Jr. (P-MD) January 20, 1989 - January 20, 1993
43. Paul E. Tsongas (D-MA) January 20, 1993 - January 18, 1997*
44. John B. Breaux (D-LA) January 18, 1997 - January 20, 2005
45. Joseph "Joe" I. Lieberman (D-CT) January 20, 2005 - January 20, 2009***
46. Keith M. Ellison (P-MN) January 20, 2009 - Current Date***

*Died in his sleep from a coronary thrombosis.
***First Female POTUS.
*Died from complications of illness and old age.
***First Roman Catholic POTUS.
**Assassinated by neo-fascist Herman Bremer in Wisconsin.
***First Mormon-America POTUS.
*Died from Pneumonia and Liver failure, caused by complications of Cancer.
***First Jewish-America POTUS.
***First African-American and Muslim POTUS.
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« Reply #793 on: April 23, 2011, 02:44:08 pm »
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Great list. I'd really like to see a timeline about it some day.

Me too but it would be a mammoth task. I may chicken out and let someone else do it if they want to.

In reality, of course, the second half of the list is somewhat fictitious, as the persons named were born after the PoD, and so would probably either not have been born at all, or would not be identical to those who bore the same names OTL. On the other hand, since I've kept the US out of WW1 (and so possibly butterflied WW2 away as well) there will be 100,000 plus men surviving to father kids who never existed in our world - perhaps including a President or two. Hence my inclusion of Champ Clark III, though I haven't checked if such a person actually exists in our world.
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Having quickly googled, it appears that there is a Champ Clark III, but he's in the computer business and apparently hasn't gone into politics - at least not on this TL.
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Based on "What If Gordon Banks Had Played"

1976: Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Richard Schweiker (R-PA)
1980: Walter Mondale (D-MN)/James Wright (D-TX)
1984: Walter Mondale (D-MN)/James Wright (D-TX)

1988: Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL)/Lamar Alexander (R-TN)
1992: Lawton Chiles (D-FL)/John D. Rockefeller IV (D-WV)
1996: Lawton Chiles (D-FL)*1/John D. Rockefeller IV (D-WV)
1998: John D. Rockefeller (D-WV)/Joseph Lieberman (D-CT)*2
2000: John D. Rockefeller (D-WV)/Joseph Lieberman (D-CT)
2004: Joseph Lieberman (D-CT)/Kathleen Kennedy Townshend (D-MA)*3

2008: Tommy Thompson (R-WI)/J.C. Watts (R-OK)*4

1. Died of heart attack while exercising in the White House Gym
2. First Jewish Vice President and President
3. First Female and Roman Catholic Vice President
4. First African-American Vice President
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1968-George Wallace/Curtis LeMay
1972-George Wallace/Curtis LeMay

1976-Hubert Humphrey/Mo Udall
1978-Mo Udall/Ted Kennedy

1980-Gerald Ford/George Bush
1984-Gerald Ford/George Bush

1988-Bill Clinton/Mario Cuomo
1992-George Bush/Newt Gingrich
1996-George Bush/Newt Gingrich

2000-Evan Bayh/John Edwards
2004-Evan Bayh/John Edwards

2008-Bill Frist/Lynne Cheney

Defeated Tickets
1968-Richard Nixon/Sprio Agnew-Hubert Humphrey/Ed Muskie
1972-Nelson Rockefeller/Ronald Reagan-Thomas Eagleton/Sargent Shriver
1976-Ronald Reagan/Gerald Ford-Lester Maddox/Robert Byrd
1980-Mo Udall/Ted Kennedy-John Schmitz/John Rarick
1984-Lawton Chiles/Walter Mondale-John Rarick/Lyndon LaRouche
1988-George Bush/Robert Dole-Buddy Roemor/Newt Gingrich
1992-Bill Clinton/Mario Cuomo-Pat Buchanan/Alan Keyes
1996-Al Gore/Jay Rockefeller-Pat Buchanan/Alan Keyes
2000-Newt Gingrich/George Voinovich
-Alan Keyes/Howard Philips
2004-Joe Lieberman/Bill Frist
2008-John Edwards/Hillary Rodham
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1961-1969 Lyndon Johnson/Robert F. Kennedy era
1969-1973 Robert F. Kennedy era

1973-1977 Nixon/Ford era
1977-1981  Carter/Mondale era
1981-1989 Reagan/H Bush era
1989-93 Bush/Quayle era

1993-2001 Cuomo/Gephardt era
2001-2009 W.Bush/Cheney era
2009-present Obama/Biden era
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1961-1969 Lyndon Johnson/Robert F. Kennedy era
1969-1973 Robert F. Kennedy era

1973-1977 Nixon/Ford era
1977-1981  Carter/Mondale era
1981-1989 Reagan/H Bush era
1989-93 Bush/Quayle era

1993-2001 Cuomo/Gephardt era
2001-2009 W.Bush/Cheney era
2009-present Obama/Biden era

Why not just say Lyndon B Johnson/Robert F Kennedy, Mario Cuomo/Richard Gephardt? Why bother with the "era"?
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Conservatives stay with the Democrats ; Liberals stay Republican.
34th President: Harold Stassen (MN) / Earl Warren (CA): 1953-1957
35th President: Lyndon B. Johnson (TX) / Estes Kefauver (TN): 1957-1965
36th President: Nelson Rockefeller (NY) / Dwight Eisenhower (KS): 1965-1973*
                                                                 Earl Warren (CA): 1969-1973

37th President: Robert F. Kennedy (NY) / Stuart Symington (MO): 1973-1981
38th President: John F. Kennedy (MA) / Walter Mondale (MN): 1981-1985
39th President: Lowell P. Weicker Jr. (CT) / George H.W Bush (MA): 1985-1993
40th President: Ross Perot (TX) / Donald Trump (NY): 1993-1997
41st President: J.C. Watts (OK) / Jon Kyl (AZ): 1997-2005 **
42nd President: Jack Kemp (NY) / Richard Shelby (AL): 2005-2008 ***
43rd President: Richard Shelby (AL) / John McCain (AZ): 2008-2009 ****

44th President: Norm Coleman (MN) / Spencer Abraham (MI): 2009-current. *****

* Vice President Eisenhower dies on March 28th of 1969. Former VP Earl Warren replaces him.
** First African-American President, Speaker J.C. Watts elected President.
*** President Kemp is assassinated in Lake Placids, NY by a far-left environmentalist who was upset over Kemp vetoing an act that would imprison CEOs of Companies that didn't follow environmental regulations strictly.
**** President Shelby picked Moderate Republican Senator John McCain as his VP to water down his own far right views, but in the end this act of "bipartisanship" failed Shelby lost badly losing 57 to 40 in the popular vote and only carrying 7 states. Arizona nor Alabama were one of those seven.
***** Norm Coleman is first Jewish President ; Abraham is first Lebanese-American Vice-President.

Ranked in order of best to worst:
1. Robert Kennedy Adminstration, Democratic.
2. Lyndon B. Johnson Adminstration, Democratic.
3. Lowell P. Weicker Adminstration, Republican.
4. J.C. Watts Adminstration, Democratic.
5. Nelson Rockefeller Adminstration, Republican.
6. Jack Kemp Adminstration, Democratic.
7. John F. Kennedy Adminstration, Democratic.
8. Harold Stassen Adminstration, Republican.
9. Richard Shelby Adminstration, Democratic and Republican.
10. Ross Perot Adminstration, Republican.

No rating for President Coleman's adminstration.

Also 9/11 / Iraq War never happened so Jewish-Arabic and American-Arabic relations are much less tense.

Republican Party: Center Left.
Democratic Party: Center Right.

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