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« Reply #850 on: June 25, 2011, 09:55:44 AM »

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40. Ronald W Reagan (R-CA)/George HW Bush (R-TX) January 20th, 1981-March 30th, 1981
41. George HW Bush (R-TX)/vacant, Howard Baker (R-TN) March 30th, 1981-January 20th, 1985

42. Gary Hart (D-CO)/Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY) January 20th, 1985-June 2nd, 1987
43. Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY)/vacant, William Jefferson Clinton (D-AR) June 2nd, 1987-January 20th, 1993

44. Richard B Cheney (R-WY)/Oliver North (R-VA) January 20th, 1993-November 8th, 1994
45. Oliver North (R-VA)/vacant, Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL) November 8th, 1994-January 20th, 1997

46. William Jefferson Clinton (D-AR)/Paul Wellstone (D-MN) January 20th, 1997-February 12th, 1999
47. Paul Wellstone (D-MN)/vacant, Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN) February 12th, 1999-January 20th, 2001

48. John McCain (R-AZ)/George W Bush (R-TX) January 20th, 2001-September 11th, 2001
49. George W Bush (R-TX)/vacant, Fred Thompson September 11th, 2001-January 20th, 2009

50. Anthony Weiner (D-NY)/Gray Davis (D-CA) January 20th, 2009-June 21st, 2011
51. Gray Davis (D-CA)/vacant June 21st, 2011-President
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« Reply #851 on: June 27, 2011, 12:18:41 AM »

1976-Ronald Reagan/Robert Dole
1980-Ronald Reagan/Robert Dole
1981-Robert Dole/Paul Laxalt *1

1984-Ted Kennedy/Fritz Hollings
1988-Ted Kennedy/Fritz Hollings

1992-Ross Perot/Pat Buchanan
1996-Jay Rockefeller/Zell Miller
2000-Mitt Romney/Rick Santorum
2004-Mitt Romney/Rick Santorum

2008-Russ Feingold/Tim Kaine


1976-James Carter/Walter Mondale
1980-James Carter/Lloyd Bentsen

1984-Paul Laxalt/Jesse Helms
1988-Gerald Ford/Paula Hawkins
1992-Fritz Hollings/Robert Casey-Paula Hawkins/Richard Thornburgh
1996-Pat Buchanan/Ron Paul-John McCain/Richard Lugar
2000-Jay Rockefeller/Zell Miller
2004-Zell Miller/John Kerry
2008-Rick Santorum/George Allen

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« Reply #852 on: June 28, 2011, 10:43:59 PM »

Possibly to go in my mini-tl thread once I decide to finish my current one and get on this...
The Rise of the Liberal Republicans...
With the election of 1872, a turning point came in the history of American politics. The Democrats with their endorsement of Horace Greeley, had taken themselves out of the race, instead watching two factions of the Republican party fight it out for the Presidency. To everyone's surprise, Horace Greeley would win come election night 1872.

Former Congressman Horace Greeley (LR-NY)/Governor Benjamin Gatz Brown (LR-MO) 186 electoral votes, 48.5% of the popular vote
President Ulysses S Grant (R-IL)/Senator Henry Wilson (R-MA) 50.9% of the popular vote

With that, Horace Greeley would take office, becoming the 19th President of the United States of America. Due to outrage over his many policies relating to civil rights and his attempts at reforms (many of which were compared to socialism), the Democrats would disavow him. Not only that, but he would die three years into his first term, leaving President Benjamin Brown holding the bag full of unpopularity and political unrest that Greeley left behind. Come the 1876 election, things would not go well.

Former Senator Ulysses S Grant (R-IL)/Former Senator John F Lewis (R-VA) 246 electoral votes, 50.8% of the popular vote
Senator John W Stevenson (D-KY)/Senator Thomas F Bayard (D-DE) 77 electoral votes, 26.6% of the popular vote
President Benjam Gatz Brown (LR-MO)/Senator Lyman Trumbull (LR-IL) 43 electoral votes 22.3% of the popular vote

Grant's previous success in the South in 1872 and 1876 led to the creation of the Republican "Southern Strategy", the aim being to attract high African American turnout. With Liberal Republicans instead going for farmers that Conservative Democrats didn't appeal to, the Democrats found themselves quickly shrinking. By the end of the century they had been near completely annhilated as was the widespread belief in segregation and slavery. While things were nowhere near perfect for blacks, they were much better as both sides openly supported Civil Rights and a lot was done in the period...

List of Presidents/Vice-Presidents
18. Ulysses S Grant (R-IL)/Schulyer Colfax (R-IN) 1873-1877
19. Horace Greeley (LR-NY)/Benjamin Gatz Brown (LR-MO) 1873-1876
20. Benjamin Gatz Brown (LR-MO)/vacant 1876-1877

21. Ulysses S Grant (R-IL)/John F Lewis (R-VA), James A Garfield (R-OH) 1877-1885
22. John Sherman (R-OH)/Grover Cleveland (R-NY) 1885-1889


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« Reply #853 on: June 29, 2011, 06:10:17 AM »

Ronald Reagan (1981-1989)
George Bush (1989-1993)
Bill Clinton (1993-2001)
Dan Quayle (2001-2009)
Bill Richardson (2009-2013)
Sarah Palin (2013-2021)
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« Reply #854 on: June 29, 2011, 08:53:56 AM »

Ronald Reagan (1981-1989)
George Bush (1989-1993)
Bill Clinton (1993-2001)
Dan Quayle (2001-2009)
Bill Richardson (2009-2013)
Sarah Palin (2013-2021)

Disgusting.
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« Reply #855 on: June 29, 2011, 10:22:30 AM »

Ronald Reagan (1981-1989)
George Bush (1989-1993)
Bill Clinton (1993-2001)
Dan Quayle (2001-2009)
Bill Richardson (2009-2013)
Sarah Palin (2013-2021)

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« Reply #856 on: June 29, 2011, 03:44:07 PM »

37. President Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY), Vice President Ralph Yarborough (D-TX) [1969-1977]
38. President Ronald Reagan (R-CA) / Vice President Richard Schweiker (R-PA) [1977-1981]
39. President Terry Sanford (D-NC)* / Vice President Sargent Shriver (D-MD) [1981]
40. President Sargent Shriver (D-MD) / Vice President Birch Bayh (D-IN) [1981-1985]

41. President Pierre du Pont (R-MD) / Vice President Jack Kemp (R-NY) [1985-1993]
42. President Jack Kemp (R-NY) / Vice President Pete Wilson (R-CA) [1993-1997]

43. President Howard Dean (D-VT) / Vice President Joseph Biden (D-DE) [1997-2001]
44. President Fred Thompson (R-TN) / Vice President Frank Keating (R-OK) [2001-2005]
45. President John F. Kennedy Jr. (D-NY) / Vice President Bob Graham (D-FL) [2005-present]


Losing Tickets
1968: Richard Nixon (R-CA) / Spiro Agnew (R-MD)
1972: Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) / Mark Hatfield (R-OR)
1976: Ralph Yarborough (D-TX) / Frank Church (D-ID)
1980: Ronald Reagan (R-CA) / Richard Schweiker (R-PA)
1984: Sargent Shriver (D-MD) / Birch Bayh (D-IN)
1988: Edward M. Kennedy (D-MA) / Gary Hart (D-CO)
1992: Al Gore Jr. (D-TN) / Bob Kerrey (D-NE)
1996: Jack Kemp (R-NY) / Pete Wilson (R-CA)
2000: Howard Dean (D-VT) / Joe Biden (D-DE)
2004: Fred Thompson (R-TN) / Frank Keating (R-OK)
2008: Frank Keating (R-OK) / Mike Huckabee (R-AK)


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« Reply #857 on: June 29, 2011, 04:30:15 PM »

The Rise of the Liberal Republicans
With the election of 1872, a turning point came in the history of American politics. The Democrats with their endorsement of Horace Greeley, had taken themselves out of the race, instead watching two factions of the Republican party fight it out for the Presidency. To everyone's surprise, Horace Greeley would win come election night 1872.

Former Congressman Horace Greeley (LR-NY)/Governor Benjamin Gatz Brown (LR-MO) 186 electoral votes, 48.5% of the popular vote
President Ulysses S Grant (R-IL)/Senator Henry Wilson (R-MA) 50.9% of the popular vote

With that, Horace Greeley would take office, becoming the 19th President of the United States of America. Due to outrage over his many policies relating to civil rights and his attempts at reforms (many of which were compared to socialism), the Democrats would disavow him. Not only that, but he would die three years into his first term, leaving President Benjamin Brown holding the bag full of unpopularity and political unrest that Greeley left behind. Come the 1876 election, things would not go well.

Former Senator Ulysses S Grant (R-IL)/Former Senator John F Lewis (R-VA) 246 electoral votes, 50.8% of the popular vote
Senator John W Stevenson (D-KY)/Senator Thomas F Bayard (D-DE) 77 electoral votes, 26.6% of the popular vote
President Benjam Gatz Brown (LR-MO)/Senator Lyman Trumbull (LR-IL) 43 electoral votes 22.3% of the popular vote

Grant's previous success in the South in 1872 and 1876 led to the creation of the Republican "Southern Strategy", the aim being to attract high African American turnout. With Liberal Republicans instead going for farmers that Conservative Democrats didn't appeal to, the Democrats found themselves quickly shrinking. By the end of the century they had been near completely annhilated as was the widespread belief in segregation and slavery. While things were nowhere near perfect for blacks, they were much better as both sides openly supported Civil Rights and a lot was done in the period...

List of Presidents/Vice-Presidents
18. Ulysses S Grant (R-IL)/Schulyer Colfax (R-IN) 1873-1877
19. Horace Greeley (LR-NY)/Benjamin Gatz Brown (LR-MO) 1873-1876
20. Benjamin Gatz Brown (LR-MO)/vacant 1876-1877

21. Ulysses S Grant (R-IL)/John F Lewis (R-VA), James A Garfield (R-OH) 1877-1885
22. Robert Todd Lincoln (R-IL)/Grover Cleveland (R-NY) 1885-1893
23. Grover Cleveland (R-NY)/Henry Cabot Lodge (R-MA) 1893-1897

24. Wiliam Jennings Bryan (LR-NE)/George F Edmunds (LR-VT) 1897-1901
25. Henry Cabot Lodge (R-MA)/Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY) 1901-1909
26. Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY)/Charles W Fairbanks (R-IN) 1909-1913
27. Joseph B Foraker (R-OH)/Philander C Knox (R-PA) 1913-1917

28. Thedore Roosevelt (LR-NY)/Robert M La Follette (LR-WI) 1917-1922
29. Robert M La Follette (LR-WI)/vacant, Joseph T Robinson (LR-AR) 1922-1929

30. Herbert Hoover (R-CA)/John Nance Garner (R-TX) 1929-1937
31. John Nance Garner (R-TX)/James Farley (R-NY) 1937-1941

32. Franklin D Roosevelt (LR-NY)/Henry Wallace (LR-IA) 1941-1946
33. Henry Wallace (LR-IA) 1946-1953

34. Joseph Kennedy Jr. (R-MA)/George Smathers (R-FL) 1953-1961
35. George Smathers (R-FL)/Everett Dirksen (R-IL) 1961-1965

36. Richard M Nixon (LR-CA)/Lyndon B Johnson (LR-TX) 1965-1973
37. Barry Goldwater (R-CA)/Martin Luther King Jr. (R-GA) 1973-1981
38. Martin Luther King Jr. (R-GA)/Robert F Kennedy (R-MA) 1981-1985
39. Robert F Kennedy (R-MA)/Ernest Hollings (R-SC) 1985-1993

40. Walter Mondale (LR-MN)/William J "Bill" Bradley (LR-NJ) 1993-2001
41. William J "Bill" Bradley (LR-NJ)/Lincoln Chaffee (LR-RI) 2001-2005

42. John S McCain III (R-AZ)/Herman Cain (R-GA) 2005-Present

18, 21. Ulysses S Grant (R): The longest serving President in American history, serving a total of twelve years and being on the Republican ticket four times, he today is an icon of modern Conservatism (that being somewhat different than OTL Conservatism).

26, 28. Theodore Roosevelt (R/LR): One of America's longest serving Presidents, after having angered many in his own party with his own reforms, he failed the test for re-nomination in 1912. However, "Bull Moose" was back in full force in 1916 with his new friends, the Liberal Republicans. His previous political offices included New York State Assemblyman (1881-1885), Mayor of New York City (1887-1890), Assistant Secretary of the Navy (1891-1892), Secretary of War (1894-1895), Governor of New York (1897-1900), and Vice-President (1901-1909).

30. Herbert Hoover (R): "The Great Humanitarian", Hoover served as California Governor for six years before being elected President. Before that, Herbert Hoover was a mining engineer and worked on food relief during the Second Mexican-American War in 1913.

31. John Nance Garner (R): The first President representing the South since Zachary Taylor, Garner was a reluctant Republican. Not liking either party a lot and thrown off by Republicans' love for civil rights and Liberal Republicans' talks about reforms that bordered on socialism, Garner settled on joining the Republicans due to their talks about the free market and the fact they were to the Right of the Liberal Republicans. Garner rose quickly in Republican House ranks due to how much both parties were attempting to dig in to the South after the death of the Democratic party and eventually rose to become Speaker of the House before being selected for Vice-President by Hoover.

32. Franklin D Roosevelt (LR): Cousin of the "beloved" Theodore Roosevelt who died in 1923, Franklin D Roosevelt had served as a member of the New York State Senate (1911-1917), Assistant Secretary of the Navy (1917-1920), Postmaster General (1920-1925), Governor of New York (1927-1935) and Senator from New York (1935-1941) before being elected President.

34. Joseph Kennedy Jr. (R): The first Catholic President, Kennedy was a chasmatic, successful President who along with others Presidents is still idolized today by Republicans. After the collapse of Northern Democratic machines, the Catholics were unsure of where to go. Persuaded by some Northern Bourbon Democrats and Civil Rights activists, a majority of them fell into the Republican folds which quickly adopted both pro-immigrant and "wet" stances in order to hold onto the power of machines such as Tammany Hall.

36. Richard M Nixon (LR): Only the third Liberal Republican President to win re-election, Nixon had a long and interesting history. Despite having been raised by Quaker Republicans in Southern California, after service in the Pacific War, Nixon broke with his parents' roots, citing "The Republicans long ago made irrelevant their beleifs in Civil Rights. It is now the Liberal Republicans who push forward for more rights for the worker and the farmer." With his farming roots and his hate for "those damn East Coast Conservative Republicans", he fit in with and become a popular figure among the Liberal Republicans. Elected Congressman from California (1945-1947), he was known for his attempted prosecutions of "fat cats" and the mob. Using this as a stepping stone, he was able to be elected to the Senate in 1946. The 1956 Liberal Republican nominee, Nixon gained a deep-seated hatred for "The slick pair made up of the East Coast Papist and the Dixie-coddling Corporatist". In reality, he despised them for good looks and charm, a quality possessed by both men on the Republican ticket. Declaring in 1958 that he would not be running for re-election to the Senate, he claimed "Yes, gentlemen, yes. This is my last Press conference." However, Smathers' landslide victory over the 1960 LR ticket and the tumultous four years following drew the former Senator back into politics and he struck back in 1964 with a comfortable victory and a landslide four years later.

37. Barry Goldwater (R): Dubbed "a bat-sh**t crazy Jew" by President Nixon in 1971 and seen as having no chance against the folksy and popular Vice-President Johnson, Goldwater won in an upset and became one of the many icons of Conservative Republicans today.

38. Martin Luther King Jr. (R): The nation's first African-American President, unlike Nixon, King stuck to his Republican roots and became fairly successful in politics, being elected Governor of Georgia in 1970 and elected Vice-President two years later. Upon taking office in 1981, King had consistently high approval ratings but chose to not run for re-election. "As a child growing up, it was seen as impossible for a black man to be elected President of the United States. Now, I stand before you having been lucky enough to have accomplished that goal. However, I am content and will not seek re-election next November. I have lived a life I believe my ancestors would be proud of and that is enough for me."

42. John S McCain III (R): The son of former Navy Secretary John S McCain II (1961-1965), McCain when he ran for Senate in 1976 in the seat that President Goldwater once held, had a large amount of establishment backing and money going into his campaign allowing the young war hero to win easily over his Liberal Republican opponent. Over the next twenty-eight years, McCain became a respected voice in the Senate, making friends with Senators John Tower (R-TX), George Bush (R-CT), Russ Feingold (LR-WI) and Joe Lieberman (LR-CT). After having been the 1996 Republican Vice-Presidential nominee in 1996 and being the runner-up to Jeb Bush in the 2000 Republican primaries, McCain was the obvious choice in 2004 to end twelve consecutive years of Liberal Republican rule.
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« Reply #858 on: June 29, 2011, 05:16:05 PM »

Where are they now? Other characters in "The Rise of the Liberal Republicans"

Ronald Reagan (R)Sad Formerly a member of the Liberal Republicans, Reagan became a Conservative in 1962 after having endorsed the Republican nominee three elections in a row. He was elected to the Senate in 1964 and Governor of California in 1970. Despite being a candidate for President in 1980, he lost in the Republican primareis to Vice-President Martin Luther King Jr. He placed second in front of Governor Robert F Kennedy of Massachusetts.

Barry Goldwater Jr. (R)Sad The son of President Goldwater, Barry Goldwater Jr. served as Congressman from California (1969-1972), Whitehouse Chief of Staff (1973-1978), Governor of California (1979-1987), and Senator from California (1987-1993). He was Republican Vice-Presidential nominee in 1992 but declined to run for anything after that.

Ron Paul (R)Sad Besides Barry Goldwater Jr., one of President Goldwater's other proteges was Ron Paul who served as a Congressman from Pennsylvania (1975-1978), Whitehouse Chief of Staff (1978-1981), and returned to Congress in 1983. Serving from then to 2003 when he became Governor of Pennsylvania. After one term, however, Paul retired. He was a candidate for the Republican nomination in 1992, 1996, and 2000, as well as the Vice-Presidential nominee of the "Liberty Party" ticket in 1988.

John Chaffee (LR)Sad Governor of Rhode Island (1963-1969), Secretary of the Navy (1970-1973), Senator from Rhode Island (1973-1993), and finally Secretary of War (1993-1999), John Chaffee was an expert politician and a proud member of the "Blueblood" wing of the Liberal Republican party, meaning the North-Easterners. His son, Lincoln Chaffee, who served in his Senate seat (1993-2001), was elected Vice-President by the Senate after Vice-President elected Paul Wellstone was killed in a plane crash.

John Warner (R)Sad Secretary of the Navy (1973-1978), Senator from Virginia (1979-2003), and Secretary of War (2005-Present), John Warner is another veteran politician and a more moderate member of the very conservative Republican Party.

Hubert H Humphrey (LR)Sad Icon of the Liberal Republicans and Senate Majority Leader during the Nixon years, Humphrey never got to be President, going down in flames in 1960 to the popular and charming Vice-President Smathers. However, he was re-elected to the Senate and continued to serve, becoming Senate Majority Leader after his boss, Lyndon Johnson, left for the Vice-Presidency.

Eugene McCarthy (LR)Sad Two-term Senator from Minnesota, McCarthy's most lasting legacy is a doomed run for the Presidency in 1972 on a third-party ticket after having failed to snatch the LR nomination away from Vice-President Johnson. A bigger icon of the "New Left" than Johnson would ever be, McCarthy is well remembered by peace protesters and so called "Groovies" of the late 1960's and early 1970's.

Nelson Rockefeller (LR)Sad 1960 Vice-Presidential nominee, Nelson Rockefeller's career began in 1933 and ended fifty years later. Working in local politics, Rockefeller had not only the advantage of money, but also the advantage of connections forged by his grandfather the late Nelson W Aldrich who althrough a Republican, was a hero to his grandson. In 1941, Rockefeller was rewarded with his first national position, Postmaster General (1941-1945). After heading back to New York following the beginning of FDR's second term, Rockefeller was elected Mayor of New York City with the backing of FDR, Thedore Roosevelt Jr., and incumbent Mayor Fiorello La Guardia. He served there from 1946 to 1949. After his four years there, Rockefeller headed back to Washington, being appointed by President Wallace Ambassador to the League of Nations, a post which Rockefeller filled from 1950 to 1953. Back in New York after the Liberal Republicans were out of power, Nelson Rockefeller set his sights on the highest position available to him at the time: Governor of New York (1955-1965). During his time there he expanded government, became known as a "tough on crime Liberal", expanded funding for the arts and signed a repeal of abortion prohibitions in the state. After his landslide loss on the Liberal Republican ticket as Vice-Presidential nominee in 1960, Rockefeller hoped to be well set up for 1964, having managed to bring New York into Humphrey's rather small fold. No such luck as Richard Nixon, the "comeback kid" came roaring back with a string of vistories in the Western, Southern, and Mid-Western primaries and won the nomination. However, upon Nixon taking office, Rockefeller was appointed Secretary of State. Despite it being later revealed in confidential tapes that Rockefeller and his friend Ambassador Kissinger were both hated by Nixon, Rockefeller dutifully served from 1965 to 1973. In 1974, Rockefeller won his fourth race for Governor of New York and was re-elected in 1978. On December 31st, 1982, Rockefeller's public career would end and he would die only a few months later in his mistress' home. He was a candidate for the Liberal Republican Presidential nomination in 1960, 1964, 1972, and 1976.

Calvin Coolidge (R)Sad Governor of Massachusetts 1919-1925, Coolidge was the Republicans' 1924 Presidential nominee. He made the case for limited government, a return to Federalism, enforcement of Civil Rights Laws, and other things. However, he was defeated by President LaFollette by a solid margin.
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« Reply #859 on: June 29, 2011, 11:42:34 PM »

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37. Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY)/Terry Sanford (D-NC) 1969-1977
38. Morris K. Udall (D-AZ)/Reubin Askew(D-FL) 1977-1985
39. Howard Baker (R-TN)/Orrin Hatch(R-UT) 1985-1993
40. Paul Simon(D/I-IL)/Robert Kerrey(D/I-NE) 1993-2001
41. John McCain(R-AZ)/Don Nickles (R-OK) 2001-2009
42. Jeff Bailey(D-IA)/Alan Johnson (D-OR) 2009-
38. First Mormon President
40. Won as third party after Democratic nominee had scandal involving bribes.
42. Fictional character, First Jewish President.
Losing Tickets
1968: Richard M. Nixon(R-NY)/Spiro Agnew(R-MD), George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis LeMay(AI-CA)
1972: Peter Dominick(R-CO)/John Tower (R-TX)
1976: Ronald Reagan(R-CA)/Robert Dole(R-KS)
1980: Phil Crane(R-IL)/George H.W. Bush(R-TX)
1984: Reubin Askew(D-FL)/Gary Hart(D-CO)
1988: Sam Nunn(D-GA)/Joe Biden(D-DE)
1992: Dennis DeConcini(D-AZ)/Donald Riegle(D-MI) Al D'Amato(R-NY/Phil Gramm(R-TX) Ross Perot(I-TX)/James Stockdale(I-IL)
1996: Lamar Alexander(R-TN)/Tommy Thompson(R-WI) Jesse Helms(I/R-NC)/Larry Craig(I/R-ID)
2000: Bob Graham(D-FL)/Christopher Dodd(D-CT)
2004: John Edwards(D-NC)/John Kerry(D-MA)
2008: Tom Daniels(R-OH)/Michael Sanders(R-FL)
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« Reply #860 on: June 30, 2011, 12:12:25 PM »

Where are they now? Other characters in "The Rise of the Liberal Republicans"

Ronald Reagan (R)Sad Formerly a member of the Liberal Republicans, Reagan became a Conservative in 1962 after having endorsed the Republican nominee three elections in a row. He was elected to the Senate in 1964 and Governor of California in 1970. Despite being a candidate for President in 1980, he lost in the Republican primareis to Vice-President Martin Luther King Jr. He placed second in front of Governor Robert F Kennedy of Massachusetts.

Barry Goldwater Jr. (R)Sad The son of President Goldwater, Barry Goldwater Jr. served as Congressman from California (1969-1972), Whitehouse Chief of Staff (1973-1978), Governor of California (1979-1987), and Senator from California (1987-1993). He was Republican Vice-Presidential nominee in 1992 but declined to run for anything after that.

Ron Paul (R)Sad Besides Barry Goldwater Jr., one of President Goldwater's other proteges was Ron Paul who served as a Congressman from Pennsylvania (1975-1978), Whitehouse Chief of Staff (1978-1981), and returned to Congress in 1983. Serving from then to 2003 when he became Governor of Pennsylvania. After one term, however, Paul retired. He was a candidate for the Republican nomination in 1992, 1996, and 2000, as well as the Vice-Presidential nominee of the "Liberty Party" ticket in 1988.

John Chaffee (LR)Sad Governor of Rhode Island (1963-1969), Secretary of the Navy (1970-1973), Senator from Rhode Island (1973-1993), and finally Secretary of War (1993-1999), John Chaffee was an expert politician and a proud member of the "Blueblood" wing of the Liberal Republican party, meaning the North-Easterners. His son, Lincoln Chaffee, who served in his Senate seat (1993-2001), was elected Vice-President by the Senate after Vice-President elected Paul Wellstone was killed in a plane crash.

John Warner (R)Sad Secretary of the Navy (1973-1978), Senator from Virginia (1979-2003), and Secretary of War (2005-Present), John Warner is another veteran politician and a more moderate member of the very conservative Republican Party.

Hubert H Humphrey (LR)Sad Icon of the Liberal Republicans and Senate Majority Leader during the Nixon years, Humphrey never got to be President, going down in flames in 1960 to the popular and charming Vice-President Smathers. However, he was re-elected to the Senate and continued to serve, becoming Senate Majority Leader after his boss, Lyndon Johnson, left for the Vice-Presidency.

Eugene McCarthy (LR)Sad Two-term Senator from Minnesota, McCarthy's most lasting legacy is a doomed run for the Presidency in 1972 on a third-party ticket after having failed to snatch the LR nomination away from Vice-President Johnson. A bigger icon of the "New Left" than Johnson would ever be, McCarthy is well remembered by peace protesters and so called "Groovies" of the late 1960's and early 1970's.

Nelson Rockefeller (LR)Sad 1960 Vice-Presidential nominee, Nelson Rockefeller's career began in 1933 and ended fifty years later. Working in local politics, Rockefeller had not only the advantage of money, but also the advantage of connections forged by his grandfather the late Nelson W Aldrich who althrough a Republican, was a hero to his grandson. In 1941, Rockefeller was rewarded with his first national position, Postmaster General (1941-1945). After heading back to New York following the beginning of FDR's second term, Rockefeller was elected Mayor of New York City with the backing of FDR, Thedore Roosevelt Jr., and incumbent Mayor Fiorello La Guardia. He served there from 1946 to 1949. After his four years there, Rockefeller headed back to Washington, being appointed by President Wallace Ambassador to the League of Nations, a post which Rockefeller filled from 1950 to 1953. Back in New York after the Liberal Republicans were out of power, Nelson Rockefeller set his sights on the highest position available to him at the time: Governor of New York (1955-1965). During his time there he expanded government, became known as a "tough on crime Liberal", expanded funding for the arts and signed a repeal of abortion prohibitions in the state. After his landslide loss on the Liberal Republican ticket as Vice-Presidential nominee in 1960, Rockefeller hoped to be well set up for 1964, having managed to bring New York into Humphrey's rather small fold. No such luck as Richard Nixon, the "comeback kid" came roaring back with a string of vistories in the Western, Southern, and Mid-Western primaries and won the nomination. However, upon Nixon taking office, Rockefeller was appointed Secretary of State. Despite it being later revealed in confidential tapes that Rockefeller and his friend Ambassador Kissinger were both hated by Nixon, Rockefeller dutifully served from 1965 to 1973. In 1974, Rockefeller won his fourth race for Governor of New York and was re-elected in 1978. On December 31st, 1982, Rockefeller's public career would end and he would die only a few months later in his mistress' home. He was a candidate for the Liberal Republican Presidential nomination in 1960, 1964, 1972, and 1976.

Calvin Coolidge (R)Sad Governor of Massachusetts 1919-1925, Coolidge was the Republicans' 1924 Presidential nominee. He made the case for limited government, a return to Federalism, enforcement of Civil Rights Laws, and other things. However, he was defeated by President LaFollette by a solid margin.

What ever happened to: George McGovern, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Hillary Rodham, Barack Obama, Strom Thurmond?
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« Reply #861 on: July 01, 2011, 01:30:16 PM »

What ever happened to: George McGovern, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Hillary Rodham, Barack Obama, Strom Thurmond?

George McGovern (LR)Sad Perhaps one of the greatest Progressive symbols of the 1970's, George McGovern is remembered most fo rhis quixotic bid for President against the popular President Barry Goldwater in 1976. Despite losing that battle, McGovern would win re-election in 1980 and in 1986 be elected Senate Minority Leader. By 1990, he was Senate Majority Leader and held that position until his retirement in 1998.

Jimmy Carter (LR)Sad Congressman from Georgia's 3rd Congressional District (1967-1971) and Secretary of Agriculture for the last two years of the Nixon Administration, Carter would go back to Georgia and be elected Governor of Georgia in 1974 and elected Senator in 1978. Leading a Populist campaign for the Liberal Republican nomination in 1980, Carter would surprisingly win the nomination, touting his experience in the House, in the Nixon Administration, as Governor, and as Senator. However, that would not prevent a comfortable loss at the hands of fellow Georgian Martin Luther King Jr. In the landslide 1984 election, Carter would lose re-election to the Senate and now works in the private sector in oil shale.

William Jefferson Clinton (LR, I)Sad Congressman from Arkansas' 3rd District 1975-1985 and Arkansas Governor (1987-1989), Clinton began his political career in the Populist tradition of Arkansas Liberal Republicans, Clinton's move to the Right on economics in attempting to deal with a Republican controlled House, Clinton lost favor with his core constituency in his home district. Privately, he would comment "I'm attempting to work with the bastards and get them to calm down on issues, and all I get at home is sh**t." In 1982, the Liberal Republican Party of Arkansas would refuse to re-nominate him and he announced that he would be running as an Independent. In 1982 he won with 38% of the vote, leading a small group of Independents to call on him to run for President in 1984. However, he declined. He lost re-election narrowly in 1984 to his Republican opponent. Not feeling nearly done with politics, Clinton announced on December 19th, 1985 that he would be running for Arkansas Governor as an Independent in 1986. Fiscally Conservative, socially for the most part Libertarian, and willing to work with all sides, he was elected Arkansas Governor with 36% of the vote ans served one two year term there before losing re-election.

Hillary Rodham-Ryan (R)Sad A believer in staunch fiscal conservatism while being herself a social moderate, Hillary Rodham-Ryan served as Whitehouse Chief of Staff (1991-1993), Congresswoman from Illinois' 8th Congressional District (1995-2001), and Governor of Illinois (2001-2009, as there was never a switch in gubernatorial election years). Despite declining to run for President and declining to accept John McCain's offer of the Vice-Presidential nomination, Rodham-Ryan is seen as a possible contender for the 2012 Republican nomination.

Born into a Republican family, Hillary, as she is dubbed by the media, despite voting for Nixon in 1968, voted enthusiastically for fellow Republican Barry Goldwater in 1972 and since has maintained a completely Republican voting record. Being interested in politics she became both a lawyer and an activist and in 1976 married fellow Republican lawyer Jim Ryan, also of Illinois. They have two kids.

Barack Obama Jr. (LR)Sad As easy it would be to butterfly Obama out of existence, I've decided I'll be nice and instead, you get this:
Barack Obama was the son of Barack Sr. and Ann Obama (nee: Dunham), a couple who married in Hawaii in 1961, Barack initially had very little interest in politics, instead having remained rather quiet and sad after the death of his father. That was until 1972, when he heard about Martin Luther King Jr., one term  Governor of Georgia and famed Civil Rights Activist, become the 1972 Republican Vice-Presidential nominee. His fledgling interest became only more-so when, eight years later, the Vice-President sought the Presidency. However, young Barack was not to join the Republican party, instead registering with the Liberal Republican Party in Hawaii in 1981 and becoming a local lawyer and activist for cleaner neighborhoods, better municipalities, etc. after his stint at Harvard University. In 1994, by then a respected lawyer, Obama was elected to one term in the Hawaii House of Representatives, representing part of Honolulu. Following the announcement by Congresswoman Pat Saiki in 1996 that she, instead of re-election, would be running for the Senate that year, the young state senator jumped on the situation, running for and winning the Liberal Republican nomination for Congress and beating his Republican opponent by a large margin. He was re-elected in 1998 and 2000. In 2002 with Governor Neil Abercrombie (LR) declining to run again, Obama was elected Hawaii's 6th Governor, a position he served for six years before being elected to the United States Senate in 2008. In short, his resume is:
Member of the Hawaii House of Representatives: 1995-1997, United States Congressman from Hawaii's 1st Congressional District 1997-2002, 6th Governor of the State of Hawaii 2003-2009, and Senator from Hawaii 2009-Present. He is widely considered a potential candidate for President in 2012 and has a good resume. Should he face Hillary Rodham-Ryan in the election, some insiders claim it would only be a repeat of the United States Governors' Conference in 2005 where the two then-Governors' egos famously butted.

James Strom Thurmond (R)Sad Like many Conservative Southerners, a member of the Senate's "Reluctant Republican" caucus (the official name being the Southern Republican conference), Strom Thurmond served as Governor of South Carolina (1947-1951), and United States Senator from South Carolina (1954-1956, 1961-1997). While initially more moderate but also more racist, after his 1956 Senate defeat, Thurmond moved to the right on economics as well as moving to the left on civil rights, fitting back into the "Republican mainstream" to appease the large African American community that success in South Carolina heavily deepended on, especially against an insurgent Liberal Republiacn Party in the state. From 1961 to his retirement in 1996 (he is succeeded by his wife), Thurmond was a strong and powerful advocate for Conservatism. However, he was not only that. Accused of corruption, closet racism (despite openly supporting Civil Rights since 1961), as well as marital infidelity, Thurmond would have to work hard to maintain popularity within his state and did it through his mastery of winning earmarks for his state.
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« Reply #862 on: July 02, 2011, 12:12:53 AM »

1960: Lyndon Johnson/Stuart Symington
1964: Lyndon Johnson/Stuart Symington

1966: Stuart Symington/George Smathers*
1968: Ronald Reagan/James Rhodes
1972: Ronald Reagan/James Rhodes'
1973: James Rhodes/vacant**

1976: Henry Jackson/John Gilligan
1980: Henry Jackson/John Gilligan
1984: John Gilligan/Thomas Judge***

1988: Robert Dole/Ron Paul
1992: Robert Dole/Hillary Rodham

1996: Richard Gephardt/Christopher Dodd
2000: Hillary Rodham/Collin Powell
2004: Howard Dean/Joseph Biden
2008: Howard Dean/Kathleen Gilligan

2012: Charles Crist/Jon Huntsman
2016: Charles Crist/Jon Huntsman
2020: Jon Huntsman/Marco Rubio


*Dies of a Heart Attack
**Assassinated
***Losses the Nomination of the Democratic Party.

1960: Richard Nixon/Neil McElroy
1964: Barry Goldwater/Hiram Fong

1968: Stuart Symington/George Smathers
1972: Hubert Humphrey/Martin L. King Jr.

1976: Robert Dole/Howard Baker
1980: Howard Baker/Elliot Richardson
1984: Peter Domenici/Pierre DuPont

1988: Martin L. King Jr./ Micheal Dukakis
1992: Micheal Dukakis/Albert Gore

1996: Ron Paul/William Weld
2000: Richard Gephardt/Christopher Dodd
2004: Hillary Rodham/Collin Powell
2008: William Weld/Elizabeth Dole

2012: Kathleen Gilligan/Caroline Kennedy
2016: Caroline Kennedy/Beau Biden
2020: Andrew Cuomo/Susan Rice
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« Reply #863 on: July 06, 2011, 01:25:07 PM »
« Edited: July 06, 2011, 01:45:14 PM by ChairmanSanchez »

1988: Ted Kennedy/Mario Cuomo
1992: Ted Kennedy/Mario Cuomo

1996: Jack Kemp/Spencer Abrams
2000: Paul Wellstone/Howard Dean
2004: George Allen/Jeb Bush
2008: George Allen/Jeb Bush

2012: Russ Feingold/Bill Gates
2016: Russ Feingold/Bill Gates

2020: Bobby Jindall/Rick Scott

1988: George HW Bush/Robert Dole
1992: Robert Dole/Donald Rumsfield

1996: Mario Cuomo/Jay Rockefeller
2000: Jack Kemp/Spencer Abrams
2004: Paul Wellstone/Howard Dean
2008: Donald Rumsfield/Judy Martz
2012: Rick Perry/John Bolton
2016: Michelle Bachman/Herman Cain

2020: Bill Gates/Rahm Emmanuel
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« Reply #864 on: July 07, 2011, 10:56:29 AM »

A world where Gerald Ford gets shot and we never really make a recovery from the 1970s.

1974-75 Gerald Ford(assassinated)
1975-79 Nelson Rockefeller(died in office)
1979-81 Bob Dole(republican)
1981-85 John Anderson(independent)
1985-93 Jimmy Carter(democrat)
1993-97 Ross Perot(independent)
1997-05 Douglas Wilder(democratic)
2001-05 John McCain(republican)
2005-09 Zell Miller(democratic)
2009-17 Ron Paul(Republican)
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« Reply #865 on: July 10, 2011, 06:26:10 PM »

Presidents
1968: Nelson Rockefeller/Edward Brooke
1972: Nelson Rockefeller/Edward Brooke
1975: Edward Brooke/vacant*

1976: Henry Jackson/Birch Bayh
1980: Edward Brooke/Robert Dole
1981: Robert Dole/John Anderson*

1984: Lloyd Bentsen/Reubin Askew
1988: Lloyd Bentsen/Lane Kirkland

1992: Collin Powell/Judd Gregg
1996: Collin Powell/Judd Gregg

2000: Joe Lieberman/Joe Biden
2004: Joe Lieberman/Joe Biden

2008: Jon Huntsman/Charlie Crist
2012: Rand Paul/Allen West
2016: Rand Paul/Allen West

2020: Gavin Newsom/Andrew Cuomo

Defeated Tickets
1968: Lyndon Johnson/Hubert Humphrey
1972: Hubert Humphrey/Fred Harris

1976: Edward Brooke/George HW Bush
1980: Henry Jackson/Birch Bayh
1984: Robert Dole/John Anderson
1988: Gerald Ford/John Ashcroft

1992: Lane Kirkland/Robert Casey Sr.
1996: Robert Casey Sr./John Kerry

2000: Judd Gregg/John McCain
2004: John McCain/Tommy Thompson

2008: Joe Biden/Evan Bayh
2012: Jon Huntsman/Charlie Crist - Evan Bayh/Joe Manchin
2016: Charlie Crist/Tommy Thompson - Joe Manchin/Joe Sestak - Russ Feingold/Gavin Newsom
2020: Allen West/Jason Chafertz

*Assassinated by Sarah Moore
**Assassinated by John Hinkley Jr.

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« Reply #866 on: July 10, 2011, 08:58:54 PM »

Kennedy's failure at the Cuban Missile Crisis

List of Presidents/Vice-Presidents
35. John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Lyndon B Johnson (D-TX) January 20th, 1961-January 20th, 1965
36. Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/Nelson A Rockefeller (R-NY) January 20th, 1965-January 20th, 1973
37. John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Fred R Harris (D-OK) January 20th, 1973-January 20th, 1977
38. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)/Ronald Reagan (R-CA) January 20th, 1977-January 20th, 1985
39. Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Robert Dole (R-KA) January 20th, 1985-January 20th, 1989

40. Edward M Kennedy (D-MA)/Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1997
41. Barry Goldwater Jr. (R-CA)/Charles Hagel (R-VA) January 20th, 1997-January 20th, 2005
42. Wesley Clark (D-IL)/William Richardson (D-NM) January 20th, 2005-Present

Losing Tickets
1960: Vice-President Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/Ambassador to the United Nations Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R-MA), Unpledged electors
1964: President John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Vice-President Lyndon B Johnson (D-TX), J Strom Thurmond (SR-SC)/Orville Faubus (SR-AR)
1968: Senator Edmund Muskie (D-ME)/Senator George McGovern (D-SD)
1972: Vice-President Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Congressman George HW Bush (R-TX)
1976: Vice-President Fred R Harris (D-OK)/Senate Majority Leader Hubert H Humphrey (D-MN), Congressman Pete McCloskey (I-CA)/former Mayor John Lindsay (I-NY)
1980: Senator George McGovern (D-SD)/former Secretary of State Sargent Shriver (replace Thomas Eagleton)
1984: Senator Ernest Hollings (D-SC)/Senator Edmund G "Jerry" Brown Jr.
1988: Vice-President Robert S Dole (R-KS)/Senator Richard Luger (R-IN)
1992: Senator George HW Bush (R-TX)/Governor Jack Kemp (R-NY)
1996: Governor Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Senator Tom Daschle (D-SD)
2000: Former Senator Samuel J Nunn (D-GA)/Former Governor Robert Casey (D-PA), Activist Ralph Nader (I-CT)/former Senator William J "Bill" Bradley (D-NJ)
2004: Vice-President Charles Hagel (R-VA)/Governor John E Bush (R-FL)
2008: Former Governor John E Bush (R-FL)/Senator Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)
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« Reply #867 on: July 11, 2011, 03:32:31 AM »

If Watergate broke before 1972, and the Agnew scandal broke around the same time...

1972-1980: George McGovern

1981-1984: George Bush
1985-1988: Ted Kennedy
1989-1992: Jack Kemp
1993-2000: Bill Clinton
2001-2004: Al Gore
2005-2008: George W Bush
2009-: Russ Feingold

i.e. the Progressive Revolution......despite a 20 year stall....
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« Reply #868 on: July 13, 2011, 11:54:03 AM »

October Rain
POD: Things go wrong in the Cuban Missile Crisis and World War occurs. The United States and Earth, must rise from the Third World War to face a highly different world...

35. John "Jack" F. Kennedy (Democratic-MA) January 20th, 1961 - April 13th, 1964**
36. Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic-TX) April 13th, 1964 - September 9th, 1965*
Interim Congressional Rule, September 9th, 1965 - January 20th, 1966
37. Hubert H. Humphrey, Jr. (People's-MN) January 20th, 1966 - January 20th, 1970
38. Benjamin M. Spock (People's-CA) January 20th, 1970 - January 20th, 1974
39. George S. McGovern (People's-SD) January 20th, 1974 - January 20th, 1978
40. Ronald W. Reagan (Conservative-CA) January 20th, 1978 - January 20th, 1982
41. Martin L. King, Jr. (People's-AL) January 20th, 1982 - January 20th, 1986***
42. Paul D. Laxalt (Conservative-NV) January 20th, 1986 - January 20th, 1990
43. Larry L. Pressler (Conservative-SD) January 20th, 1990 - January 20th, 1994
44. James "Jim" A. Hightower (People's-TX) January 20th, 1994 - January 20th, 1998
45. Warren Beatty (People's-CA) January 20th, 1998 - January 20th, 2002
46. Francis "Frank" A. Keating (Conservative-OK) January 20th, 2002 - January 20th, 2006
47. Richard S. "Kinky" Friedman (People's-TX) January 20th, 2006 - January 20th, 2010***
48. Jane E. Norton (Conservative-CO) January 20th, 2010 - Current***

**Assassinated by disgruntled civilian in Illinois.
*Forced to resign after attempt to call off elections for security purposes.
***First African-American President.
***First Jewish President.
***First Female President.
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« Reply #869 on: July 14, 2011, 01:59:54 PM »

1996: Robert Dole/Jack Kemp
2000: Robert Dole/Jack Kemp

2004: Howard Dean/Gray Davis
2008: Mitt Romney/Elizabeth Dole

Defeated Tickets
1996: Bill Clinton/Al Gore
2000: Al Gore/Bob Wise

2004: Jack Kemp/Mike Huckabee
2008: Howard Dean/Gray Davis
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« Reply #870 on: July 14, 2011, 06:41:24 PM »

Dynasty USA


1961-1969: John F. Kennedy

1969-1977: Robert F. Kennedy

1977-1985: George H. W. Bush

1985-1993: Ted Kennedy

1993-2001: George W. Bush

2001-2009: Maria Shriver

2009- : Jeb Bush
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« Reply #871 on: July 17, 2011, 09:13:40 PM »

28. Theodore Roosevelt (P-NY)/Hiram W Johnson(P-CA) March 4th, 1913-March 4th, 1921
29. Joseph T Robinson (D-AR)/Alfred E Smith (D-NY) March 4th, 1921-March 15th, 1923
30. Alfred E Smith (D-NY)/vacant, Charles W Bryan (D/
P-NE) March 15th, 1923-March 4th, 1929
31. John Calvin Coolidge (C-MA)/Charles W Bryan (P-NE) March 4th, 1929-January 5th, 1933
32. Charles W Bryan (P-NE)/vacant January 5th, 1933-March 4th, 1933
33. Millard Tydings (C-MD)/Charles Curtis (C-KS) March 4th, 1933-March 4th, 1937
34. Franklin D Roosevelt (P-NY)/Huey Long (P-LA), Henry Wallace (P-IA) March 4th, 1937-April 12th, 1945
35. Henry Wallace (P-IA)/vacant April 12th, 1945-January 13th, 1949

36. Robert Taft (C-OH)/Douglas MacArthur (C-NY), Joseph P Kennedy (C-MA) January 13th, 1949-July 31st, 1953
37. Joseph P Kennedy (C-MA)/vacant, George Smathers (C-FL) July 31st, 1953-January 13th, 1957

38. Henry A Wallace (P-IA)/Adlai E Stevenson (P-IL) January 13th, 1957-January 13th, 1961
39. Nelson A Rockefeller (P-NY)/Hubert H Humphrey (P-MN) January 13th, 1961-July 18th, 1966
40. Hubert H Humphrey (P-MN)/vacant, Winthrop Rockefeller (P-AR) July 18th, 1967-January 13th, 1973

41. Howard Baker (AU-TN)/John Eisenhower (AU-PA) January 13th, 1973-January 13th, 1977
42. Frank Church (P-ID)/George Romney (P-MI) January 13th, 1977-January 13th, 1981
43. John Ashbrook (C-OH)/James L Buckley (C-NY) January 13th, 1981-April 24th, 1982
44. James L Buckley (C-NY)/vacant, John Tower (C-TX), David Boren (C-OK) April 24th, 1982-January 13th, 1993

45. Howard Baker (AU-TN)/Warren Rudman (AU-NH) January 13th, 1993-January 13th, 1997
46. Warren Rudman (AU-NH)/Albert S Gore Jr. (AU-TN) January 13th, 1997-January 13th, 2001

47. Paul Wellstone (P-MN)/Ralph Nader (P-CT) January 13th, 2001-October 25th, 2002
48. Ralph Nader (P-CT)/vacant, Howard Dean (P-VT) October 25th, 2002-January 13th, 2009

49. James Webb (C-VA)/Doug Hoffman (C-NY) January 13th, 2009-Present

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« Reply #872 on: July 28, 2011, 03:55:09 PM »
« Edited: August 01, 2011, 08:09:51 PM by Cathcon »

The Plot to Kill President Kennedy

35. John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Lyndon B Johnson (D-TX) 1961-1963
36. Lyndon B Johnson (D-TX)/vacant, Hubert H Humphrey (D-MN) 1963-1973

37. Richard m Nixon (R-CA)/George HW Bush (R-TX) 1973-1981
38. John Connally (D-TX)/Richard Helms (D-PA) 1981-1989
39. Richard Helms (D-PA)/Jack Crichton (D-TX) 1989-1993

40. George HW Bush (R-TX)/Arlen Specter (R-PA) 1993-2001
41. Arlen Specter (R-PA)/George W Bush (R-TX) 2001-2009

42. John F Kennedy Jr. (I-NY)/Jesse Ventura (I-MN) 2009-Present

In 1963, President Kennedy is assassinated in Dallas, Texas. This was a plot arranged by both Democrats and Republicans, including several future Presidents. Johnson, working with Director of Central Intelligence Richard Helms, former Vice-President Richard Nixon, CIA allies George Bush and Jack Crichton, Supreme Court Justice Earl Warren, and attorney Arlen Specter, was able to cover this up from the world for a large amount of time. Over time, the plotters propogated their own dynasty over the nation, which also included the timely deaths of Senator Robert F Kennedy in 1968 just as he was challenging President Johnson for the nomination, and Senator Ted Kennedy in 1980 as his campaign for President was revving up. While the issue was brought to light in the 1976 Presidential campaign of Senator James Garrison of Louisiana, he himself was crushed in a landslide going up against President Nixon, and was later shot, but not killed.

Eventually, in the fall of 2007, CIA documents were made public by former CIA agent Robert Gates and published in the book "The Plot to Kill President Kennedy". Despite the mass media on both the Left and Right not believing it, the American people were sick of the lies and cover-ups and gladly voted for former Congressman John F Kennedy Jr. who himself barely survived a near fatal shooting before election day.
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« Reply #873 on: July 29, 2011, 10:58:22 PM »

1968: Nelson Rockefeller/John Tower
1972: Nelson Rockefeller/John Tower
1975: John Tower/Louis Lefkowitz*

1976: Henry Jackson/Birch Bayh
1980: Gerald Ford/Jesse Helms
1984: Gerald Ford/Jesse Helms

1988: Edward Kennedy/Bill Clinton
1992: Jack Kemp/William Weld
1996: Jack Kemp/William Weld

2000: Bill Clinton/Russ Feingold
2004: Bill Clinton/Russ Feingold

2008: Mitt Romney/Tim Pawlenty
2012: Mitt Romney/Tim Pawlenty

*Assassinated

1968: Hubert Humphrey/Ed Muskie
1972: George McGovern/Mike Gravel

1976: John Tower/John Connally
1980: Henry Jackson/Birch Bayh
1984: Birch Bayh/Lane Kirkland

1988: Jesse Helms/Paul Laxalt
1992: Edward Kennedy/Bill Clinton
1996: Diane Feinstein/Jay Rockefeller

2000: William Weld/Ron Paul
2004: Ron Paul/Gary Johnson

2008: Russ Feingold/Hillary Clinton
2012: Evan Bayh/Kendrick Meek



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« Reply #874 on: August 08, 2011, 06:24:36 PM »

The American Consensus

34. Dwight D Eisenhower (R-KS); January 20th, 1953-January 20th, 1961
          -Richard M Nixon (R-CA); January 20th, 1953-January 20th, 1957
          -Robert P Anderson (R-TX); January 20th, 1957-January 20th, 1961
35. Robert P Anderson (R-TX); January 20th, 1961-November 22nd, 1963
          -Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY); January 20th, 1961-November 22nd, 1963
36. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY); November 22nd, 1963-January 20th, 1969
          -William Scranton (R-PA); January 20th, 1965-January 20th, 1969

37. Lyndon B Johnson (D-TX); January 20th, 1969-June 17th, 1970
          -Henry M Jackson (D-WA); January 20th, 1969-June 17th, 1970
38. Henry M Jackson (D-WA); June 17th, 1970-January 20th, 1977
          -Hubert H Humphrey (D-MN); August 3rd, 1970-January 20th, 1973
          -Ronald W Reagan (D-CA); January 20th, 1973-January 20th, 1977
39. Ronald W Reagan (D-CA); January 20th, 1977-January 20th, 1981
          -Edward M Kennedy (D-MA); January 20th, 1977-January 20th, 1981

40. Howard H Baker Jr. (R-TN); January 20th, 1981-January 20th, 1989
          -Charles Percy (R-IL) January 20th, 1981-January 20th, 1989
41. Charles Percy (R-IL); January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1993
          -George HW Bush (R-TX); January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1993

42. Joseph R Biden (D-DE); January 20th, 1993-January 20th, 2001
          -Charles E Robb (D-VA); January 20th, 1993-January 20th, 2001
43. Charles E Robb (D-VA); January 20th, 2001-January 20th, 2009
          -Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) January 20th, 2001-January 20th, 2009

44. John McCain (R-AZ); January 20th, 2009-Present
          -Lincoln Chaffee (R-RI); January 20th, 2009-Present

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