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« Reply #1500 on: October 23, 2014, 04:44:34 PM »

32. Franklin Roosevelt: 1933-1941
33. John Nance Garner: 1941-1949
34. Dwight Eisenhower 1949-1961
35. Thomas Dewey: 1961-1965**
36.  Lyndon B. Johnson: 1965-1973*
37. John F. Kennedy: 1973-1981**
38. George H.W. Bush: 1981-1993
39. William Jefferson Clinton: 1993-2009
40. John Ellis Bush: 2009-2017
41. Lisa Murkowski: 2017-

*Died in Office
**Defeated for Reelection

Defeated Tickets:
1932: Herbert Hoover
1936: Alfred Landon
1940: Wendell Wilkie
1944: Robert Taft

1948: Harry Truman
1952 & 1956: Adlai Stevenson
1960: Hubert Humphrey

1964: Thomas Dewey
1968: George Romney
1972: Barry Goldwater
1976: Richard Nixon

1980: Walter Mondale
1984: Birch Bayh
1988: Michael Dukakis

1992: Bob Dole
1996: Colin Powell
2000: John McCain
2004: Ron Paul

2008: Dianne Fienstein
2012: John Kerry
2016: Mary Landrieu

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« Reply #1501 on: October 23, 2014, 04:56:23 PM »

John AdamsCharles Pinckney1797-1801
Thomas JeffersonGeorge Clinton11801-1809
George ClintonWilliam Crawford21809-1813
Rufus King3Timothy Pickering1813-1821
DeWitt Clinton4James Monroe1821-1829

1 George Clinton was selected to be Jefferson's running mate after negotiations with Burr fell through at the last minute, with Burr chastising Jefferson's agrarian, laissez-faire model as being "voodoo economics"
2 William Crawford, selected as Clinton's running mate to add geographic balance to the ticket, was largely ridiculed by the pamphlets of the day for his relative lack of governing experience.
3 Clinton's poor health, combined with frustration over his handling of the war with Britain and a third-party candidacy by John Randolph allowed a landslide win by the party previously left for dead.
4 The younger Clinton obtained two controversial election victories, one of which required the Supreme Court to rule on the admissibility of newly captured Florida's electoral votes.
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« Reply #1502 on: October 23, 2014, 09:47:47 PM »
« Edited: October 27, 2014, 04:00:54 PM by #Ready4Nixon »

36. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX)/vacant, Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN) 1963-1969
37. Barry M. Goldwater (R-AZ)/Winthrop Rockefeller (R-AR) 1969-1977
38. Winthrop Rockefeller (R-AR)/Robert S. Dole (R-KS) 1977-1981
39. Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)/Walter Mondale (D-MN) 1981-1989
40. Robert J. "Bob" Dole (R-KS)/Carol Campbell, Jr. (R-SC) 1989-1993
41. William J. "Bill" Clinton (D-AR)/Albert Gore, Jr. (D-TN) 1993-2001
42. Winthrop Paul Rockefeller (R-AR)/John S. McCain, III (R-FL) 2001-2009
43. Hillary Rodham-Clinton (D-IL)/Robert P. Casey, Jr. (D-PA) 2009-2013
44. Barack H. Obama, Jr. (R-HI)/Rand Paul (R-KY) 2013-Present

1964: Senator Prescott Bush (R-CT)/Congressman William C. "Bill" Cramer (R-FL), Unpledged Electors
1968: Vice President Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN)/Governor John B. Connally (D-TX), Senator John Sherman Cooper (I-KY)/Senator Eugene McCarthy (I-MN)
1972: Senator Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN)/Senator Edmund Muskie (D-ME)
1976: Governor Michael Dukakis (D-MA)/Senator Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX), Former Congressman Roger MacBride (L-VT)/State Senator Richard Randolph (L-AK)
1980: President Winthrop Rockefeller (R-AR)/Vice President Robert S. Dole (R-KS), Governor Edward King (I-MA)/Former Labor Secretary Peter J. Brennan (I-NY)
1984: Senator J. Danforth Quayle (R-IN)/Governor Edward Finch (R-CA)
1988: Vice President Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Congresswoman Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY), Former Senator Eugene McCarthy (I-MN)/LaDonna Harris (I-OK)
1992: President Robert Dole (R-KS)/Vice President Carol Campbell, Jr. (R-SC), Former Congressman Ronald E. Paul (T-TX)/Mr. Patrick J. Buchanan (T-VA)
1996: Former Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Jack F. Kemp (R-NY)/Senator Peter Fitzgerald (R-IL)
2000: Vice President Albert Gore, Jr. (D-TN)/Senator Joseph I. Lieberman (D-CT), Mr. Patrick J. Buchanan (I-VA)/Mr. Brian P. Moore (I-DC)
2004: Senator Paul Wellstone (D-MN)/Former Governor Howard Dean (D-VT)
2008: Vice President John S. McCain, III (R-FL)/Joseph I. Lieberman (I-CT)
2012: President Hillary Rodham-Clinton (D-IL)/Vice President Robert P. Casey, Jr. (D-PA)
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« Reply #1503 on: October 24, 2014, 11:57:32 AM »

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt: 1933-1941
33. Herbert Hoover: 1941-1949
34. Thomas Dewey: 1949-1953**
35. Dwight Eisenhower: 1953-1957***
36. Lyndon Johnson: 1957-1961

37. John F. Kennedy: 1961-1969
38.  Hubert Humphrey: 1969-1973**
39. John F. Kennedy: 1973-1977
40. Ronald Reagan: 1977-1981**
41. Gerald Ford: 1981-1981****
42. George H.W. Bush: 1981-1989
43. Gary Hart: 1989-1991*
44. Bill Clinton: 1991-1993**
45. Colin Powell: 1993-2001
46. John McCain: 2001-2005*****
47. Eliot Spitzer: 2005-2007º
48. Newt Gingrich: 2007-2009
49. Michael Bloomberg: 2009-2021
50. Jon Huntsman: 2021-


*Resigned over sex scandal;
**Defeated for Reelection
***Stepped down after one term for health reasons
**** Died in Office
*****Denied Renomination
ºImpeached for perjury, Speaker of the House becomes President after Resignation of VP 
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« Reply #1504 on: October 24, 2014, 03:26:22 PM »

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt: 1933-1941
33. Herbert Hoover: 1941-1949
34. Thomas Dewey: 1949-1953**
35. Dwight Eisenhower: 1953-1957***
36. Lyndon Johnson: 1957-1961

37. John F. Kennedy: 1961-1969
38.  Hubert Humphrey: 1969-1973**
39. John F. Kennedy: 1973-1977
40. Ronald Reagan: 1977-1981**
41. Gerald Ford: 1981-1981****
42. George H.W. Bush: 1981-1989
43. Gary Hart: 1989-1991*
44. Bill Clinton: 1991-1993**
45. Colin Powell: 1993-2001
46. John McCain: 2001-2005*****
47. Eliot Spitzer: 2005-2007º
48. Newt Gingrich: 2007-2009
49. Michael Bloomberg: 2009-2021
50. Jon Huntsman: 2021-


*Resigned over sex scandal;
**Defeated for Reelection
***Stepped down after one term for health reasons
**** Died in Office
*****Denied Renomination
ºImpeached for perjury, Speaker of the House becomes President after Resignation of VP 

1. Why would Herbert Hoover get elected President in 1940?
2. Why would JFK become a Republican?
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« Reply #1505 on: October 24, 2014, 05:30:44 PM »
« Edited: October 25, 2014, 06:43:44 AM by BaconBacon96 »

35. Richard Nixon 1961-1965
36. Hubert Humphrey 1965-1973
37. John Connally 1973-1977
38. Howard Baker 1977-1985
39. Walter Mondale 1985-1993
40. Richard Lugar 1993-2001
41. Pete Wilson 2001-2002*
42. Donald Rumsfeld 2002-2005
43. John F. Kennedy Jr. 2005-2013
44. Mitt Romney 2013-
*Died in office

Vice Presidents
37. Henry Cabot Lodge 1961-1965
38. John Connally 1965-1973
39. Edmund Muskie 1973-1977
40. Charles Mathias 1977-1985
41. Gary Hart 1985-1989
42. Bill Clinton 1989-1993
43. Phill Gramm 1993-2001
44. Donald Rumsfeld 2001-2002
45. Frank Keating 2002-2005
46.Tom Vilsack 2005-2013
47.Rob Portman 2013-

Defeated Tickets
1960: John F. Kennedy/Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Richard Nixon/Nelson Rockefeller
1968: Barry Goldwater/Spiro Agnew
1972: Ronald Reagan/Richard Schweiker
1976: John Connally/Edmund Muskie
1980: Ted Kennedy/John Glenn
1984: Bob Dole/Bill Clements
1988: Pat Robertson/Dan Quayle
1992: Bill Clinton/Leon Panetta
1996: Al Gore/Paul Tsongas
2000: John Kerry/Dick Gephardt
2004: Donald Rumsfeld/Frank Keating
2008: John McCain/Lynn Swann
2012: Tom Vilsack/Bill Richardson
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« Reply #1506 on: October 28, 2014, 01:45:34 AM »

George Wallace/Happy Chandler 1969-1973
George Romney/Ronald Reagan 1973-1977
Edward Kennedy/Frank Church 1977-1981
Ronald Reagan/Paul Laxalt 1981
Paul Laxalt/Howard Baker 1981-1989
Howard Baker/Robert Dole 1989-1997
William Clinton/John Kerry 1997-2003
John Kerry/Tom Daschle 2003-2009
Larry Pressler/Elizabeth Dole 2009-2017
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« Reply #1507 on: October 31, 2014, 11:32:15 PM »

29. Warren G. Harding (R-OH) 1921-1923*
30. Irvine Lenroot (R-WI) 1923-1925
31. William G. McAdoo (D-CA) 1925-1929
32. Alfred E. "Al" Smith (D-NY) 1929-1937
33. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY) 1937-1942*
34. Harold Stassen (R-MN) 1942-1945**
35. Thomas E. Dewey (R-NY) 1945-1949
36. Dwight D. Eisenhower (D-NY) 1949-1955***
37. Harold Stassen (R-NY) 1955-1960****
38. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) 1960-1965*****
39. George McGovern (Labor-SD) 1965-1973******
40. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) 1973-1975*******
41. Richard Nixon (R-CA) 1975-1977********
42. Gerald Ford (R-MI) 1977-1983*********
43. George H.W. Bush (R-TX) 1983-1985
44. Glenn Giffords (LAB-MD) 1985-1993**********
45. John Smith (R-OH) 1993-1997
46. Glenn Giffords (LAB-MD) 1997-1999***********
47. John Kennedy (LAB-IN) 1999-2001************
48. Christopher Engle (R-FL) 2001-2011***********

*Died in office
**Ran on a national unity ticket with Franklin Roosevelt in the 1940 Presidential Election.
***Resigned to avoid being impeached following the revelation that his administration was funding clandestine anti-communist groups abroad in defiance of a Congressional ban on such funding.
****Happened to be serving as Secretary of State under Eisenhower when Eisenhower resigned the Presidency. Eisenhower's Vice President had previously suffered a stroke and died shortly thereafter, leaving the office vacant and allowing for former President Stassen to return to his former position in 1955, making him the second President since Grover Cleveland to serve a non-consecutive term, and the only to have ever served two non-consecutive terms while not having been elected to the office itself. Stassen would go on to win the Presidency in his own right in 1956, only to die in office during a bombing raid during the Second Great War.
*****Goldwater, the sitting Secretary of War, was the highest ranking member of the executive branch left standing following the bombing of Washington in 1960. He would see through the conclusion of the Second Great War, and, in spite of his popularity as a wartime leader, would ultimately lose in a landslide in the 1964 Presidential Election.
******First member of the Labor Party elected President, McGovern would oversee the creation of the modern American welfare state.
*******Goldwater would ride anti-communist hysteria to the White House in 1972, defeating McGovern's bid for a third term in the process. His administration would see the expansion of American space forces and the reinforcement of fragile US colonial possessions on the Moon and Mars, heightening tensions with the Union of Council Socialist Republics. He would likewise suffer a heart attack in 1975 and die in office shortly after christening the first US ship bound for the moons of Jupiter.
********Secretary of State Richard Nixon would ultimately succeed Goldwater and hoped to make the Presidency the capstone of an otherwise illustrious career in diplomacy. He had been, after all, the man responsible for the negotiation of the (rather tenuous) alliance between the United States and the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere. Nevertheless, his Presidency would largely be remembered on account of a massive foreign policy flop: the struggle by Lunar Americans for independence. His insistence on holding on to the rogue territories (which complicated matters by declaring themselves not only independent, but also communists) would lead to a quagmire of epic proportions, eventually forcing Nixon out of the 1976 Presidential Election in an attempt by Republicans to save face.
*********Ford, the former Continental Football League champion turned Republican politician, would inherit the foreign policy mess created by the Goldwater and Nixon administrations and attempt to settle it on his own terms. Ultimately deciding that the rebellious lunar territories weren't worth American blood or treasure, he ceased operations on the Moon for the time being, preferring to attempt economic strangulation instead. For his efforts Ford was re-elected in 1980 over a lackluster challenge from the Labor Party. The economy was in an upswing, with the colonization of the Jovian system providing much of the impetus for growth. Ford however would not preside over the end of his second term, however, as he suffered a debilitating stroke in 1983. With a possible constitutional crisis in the making, the ailing President resigned the office shortly before suffering a second and third stroke, which ultimately led to his death in 1986.
*********The first black President, Giffords would preside over the end of the economic embargo instituted by the Ford administration toward the Lunar colonies, which he would likewise recognize as fully independent. Giffords presided over a period of detente with the Union of Council Socialist Republics, which would ultimately strain the US-Japanese alliance and open up the possibility of realignment in international affairs. Giffords would be defeated in a bid for a third term in 1992.
***********Giffords would win a third nonconsecutive term in 1996 but would ultimately resign the post in 1999 following allegations that he had nominated a Union of Council Socialist Republics agent as Secretary of State.
************No relation to the John Kennedy of our own world. Kennedy, who had served as Vice President under Giffords, would take up office after his boss' resignation and would preside over a stagnating economy and fears among many that the United States was being usurped by the Union of Council Socialist Republics in international affairs. These fears would lead to his defeat in the 2000 Presidential Election.
*************Engle, a self-described 'Goldwater Republican' would defeat Kennedy in a crushing landslide, and would use the public distaste with the previous Labor Party administration to launch an attack on the welfare state and double military spending. Re-engaging with the Japanese and other allies after years of strained relations, the Engle administration would ultimately oversee the Third Great War as well, breaking out in 2002 with a joint strike by US and Japanese forces against UCSR targets on the Saturnian moons. The Third Great War would be the bloodiest conflict in the history of mankind, with the battles not confined to the Earth, but reaching all the way out to the Saturnian system, with some of the harshest fighting taking place on the Lunar surface. Engle would win re-election in 2004 following the kinetic bombardment of Washington, D.C., resulting in the relocation of the American government to Philadelphia. As the war wound on, it became increasingly clear that working class Americans had suspect loyalties (according to the administration), a fact confirmed when general strikes broke out across industry in 2004 and 2005, leading to the displacement of many American troops to help suppress the uprising going on in and around the American territories. The collapse of the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere in 2009 to communist rebels would ultimately lead to the acceleration of instability within the United States, culminating in the capture of Zuccotti Park by communist rebels in September 2011. By December 26, 2011, the United States no longer existed as a legitimate political force; Engle would be arrested, put on trial, and executed by the government of newly minted Union of American Council Republics in 2013.
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« Reply #1508 on: November 01, 2014, 01:15:59 AM »

Pretty awesome work, TNF. What spurred earlier space exploration?
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« Reply #1509 on: November 01, 2014, 09:05:20 AM »

Well, for one thing, there was a need for capitalist economic expansion following the Second Great War. During that conflict, the Allies (US-France-UK-Japan) faced off against the Comintern (UCSR, which is Russia combined with Germany, Italy, and most of eastern Europe, and Red China) and it didn't go so well for the Allies, to say the least. The French collapsed quickly as French Communists and Socialists welcomed the invaders and turned their guns on their own government, and communist-funded colonial uprisings ultimately caused a lot of headaches for the British, who were bombed into oblivion during the conflict and ultimately ended up undergoing a revolution that incorporated it into the UCSR. Japan took advantage of all that to gobble up territory in Asia that once was owned by the British and the French, and offered to make itself the protector of white colonists in territories that hadn't fallen to communist revolution, creating a funny situation whereby Apartheid South Africa is a protectorate of the Japanese Empire.

Basically, with socialism having strangled capitalist growth prospects, and with the possibility that any turn toward more open markets might lead to socialist uprising in the two conservative powers (Japan and the US, both of whom cannibalized the non-communist remains of the British and French Empires, and both of whom eventually settled on a ceasefire with the UCSR), capitalism had to grow elsewhere. The Eisenhower administration laid the groundwork for this in the late 1940s by funding research missions which revealed that the Moon was rich in helium-3, which the scientists of the early nuclear era were sure was the key to successful nuclear fusion.

They turned out to be correct, and so the scramble for the lunar surface played a big role in the tensions of the post SGW period, as did subsequent colonial projects on Mars, the Jovian and Saturnian systems.
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« Reply #1510 on: November 01, 2014, 01:20:06 PM »

29. Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY) 1917-1930*
30. Charles Evans Hughes (R-NY) 1930-1933**
31. Alfred E. "Al" Smith (D-NY) 1933-1938***
32. John Nance Garner (D-TX) 1938-1949
33. Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. (R-NY) 1949-1957
34. John E. Rankin (Christian Nationalist-MS) 1957-1958****
35. George Marshall (I-PA) 1958*****
36. Norman Thomas (Socialist-NY) 1958-1961******
37. Lyndon Johnson (Christian Democrat-TX) 1961-1962*******
38. Curtis LeMay (I-OH) 1962-1963********
39. Adlai Stevenson (People's-IL) 1963-1966*********
40. John Connolly (CD-TX) 1966-1969**********
41. Frank Zeidler (S-WI) 1969-1973***********
42. George Wallace (American-AL) 1973-1985*************

*Died in office.
**Serving as Secretary of State when President Roosevelt died in office in 1930. Presided over a caretaker administration in lieu of Vice President Charles Curtis, who was facing impeachment following revelations that he had accepted a bribe in return for helping secure a contract for the Standard Oil company.
***Assassinated.
****Overthrown in a military coup.
*****The coup led by Marshall (and bankrolled by Wall Street) would ultimately collapse in the face of a charged revolutionary atmosphere that saw virtual civil war erupt across the country. 
******Although Thomas proclaimed his revolutionary wave a peaceful one, the situation in 1958 provoked intense infighting between the relatively moderate social democrats backing Thomas and the radical Communists seeking to 'complete the revolution' acting from the locus of revolutionary activity in the Chicago Commune. His first act upon taking office would be to order the Army (now once again under public control) to Chicago to suppress the uprising; his distaste for the action (the former pacifist in him just wouldn't die) ultimately led to his decision not to seek another term in office in 1960 once order had been restored.
*******The fusion of the antisemitic, racist Christian Nationalists with the likewise racist Democrats gives rise to the racist, antisemitic, antilabor Christian Democrats, which don't behave like a Christian Democratic party would anywhere else on earth. Johnson wouldn't serve in office for long, dropping dead of a heart attack in 1962.
********With Johnson dead, a group of military officers decided that they could easily take advantage of the confusion to assert their own power, declaring a coup led by Air Force General Curtis LeMay. LeMay would quickly find that declaring a coup tends to led to a lot of chaos (a lesson that his predecessor, George Marshall, learned the hard way), and would ultimately be executed following the fall of Washington, D.C. to Constitutional forces (those opposed to the coup) in 1963.
*********Stevenson would head up the coalition of anti-coup forces that took the capital in 1963, and would himself preside over the government until his death in 1966.
**********Connolly served as Stevenson's VP as part of the anti-coup coalition.
***********Zeidler would be President during a period of economic decline and increasing instability in government. At least since the '58 coup the military had largely been unreliable; far-right and far-left groups organized and fought one another on the streets on a regular basis. An aura of decline seemed to fill the air everywhere, and Zeidler would ultimately be blamed for a lot of it, with the 1972 Presidential Election taking place amid the backdrop of the Crash of 1969, with one out of every three Americans out of work.
*************Wallace would ride a wave of nationalist sentiment into office in 1972 and would quickly tear apart the constitutional foundations of the United States in his quest to build a 'New America' that was racially pure and committed to his own brand of messianic Christian Nationalism. Economic revival came with the building of a national high speed rail network, but increasingly America became a place that minorities, socialists, communists, and those who didn't share the views of the administration couldn't call home. The deportations to Alaska began as early as 1973 with the ban on the opposition parties, although by the early 1980s the policy was being used to relocate millions of African-Americans, Jews, and other minority groups. In 1979, Wallace launched 'Operation Manifest Destiny' with the invasion of Canada, provoking international condemnation and leading to open warfare with the British Cooperative Commonwealth. The Anglo-American War of 1979 (1979-1985) would conclude with the collapse of Washington. Wallace would commit suicide as British troops entered the city.

Premiers of the Federation of American Communes
1. Robert Kean (Socialist Unity-CA) 1989-2003*
2. Bill Rivera (Socialist Unity-SC) 2003-2006**
3. Albert Gibson (Socialist Unity-NY) 2006-2009
4. James Houck (Communist Workers'-CO) 2009-2014***

*Following the collapse of the Wallace administration, American socialists and communists, working with the British occupation forces, forged a new government, that of the Federation of American Communes (FAC) under a red flag and under a new form of government that can be more or less described as soviet democracy, with a hybrid of communal and workplace democracy responsible for electing the government itself, now based in Chicago. Kean, a former dockworker who had been involved in waterfront resistance to the Wallace administration as far back as the late 1960s, would form the first government under the new constitution, strengthening ties with the British Cooperative Commonwealth and helping construct a political alliance against the Third French Empire, the Russian 'New State', and Nationalist China.
**The first ever African-American (and Hispanic) leader of the FAC, Rivera had fought valiantly during the Anglo-American War of 1979 in the Anchorage Uprising, a prisoners' revolt in Wallace's concentration camps.
***The Communist Workers' Party, in stark contrast to the Socialist Unity Party, favored a foreign policy less oriented toward the British Cooperative Commonwealth and more genuinely 'American' in nature, regarding the British as pursuing an 'opportunistic' foreign policy, rather than one of the class struggle. The CWP in office would pursue a bold 'revolutionist' strategy, pushing the limits of the Cold War with the French-Russian-Chinese axis and threatening nuclear war under the leadership of its Premier, James Houck.
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« Reply #1511 on: November 02, 2014, 05:14:41 PM »
« Edited: November 08, 2014, 04:39:35 PM by MormDem »

Initially I wanted to start with 1912, but given that the Depression and New Deal are as important as they are to even today, it seems that it has to start with FDR...so here it goes. Red for Dems, Blue for GOP, Purple for Third Parties

1. FDR (NY)/John Nance Garner (TX) (1933-1941)    
2. Wendell Wilkie (IN)*/Charles McNary (OR)* 1941-1944, Thomas Dewey (NY) 1944-1945 (1941-1945) 
3. Thomas Dewey (NY)/John W. Bricker (OH (1945-1953) ) 
4. Estes Kefauver (TN)/Adlai Stevenson (IL)(1953-1957)
5. Dwight Eisenhower (PA)*/ William Knowland (CA) (1957-1963)
6. William Knowland (CA) (1963-1965)  {vacant}
7. Lyndon Johnson (TX)/Hubert Humphrey (MN) (1965-1973)
8. Henry "Scoop" Jackson(WA)/ Ed Muskie (ME) (1973-1977)
9. Ronald Reagan* (CA)/ Richard Schweiker (PA) 1977-1981, George Bush (TX) 1981-1981 (1977-1981)  
10. George Bush (TX)/ Howard Baker (TN) (1981-1989)
11. Gary Hart (CO)/Al Gore (TN) (1989-1997)  
12. Al Gore (TN)/John Kerry (MA) (1997-2001)  
13. John McCain* (AZ)/Chuck Hagel (NE) (2001-2005)
14. Chuck Hagel (NE) (2005-2009)  {vacant}
15. Hillary Clinton (NY)/ Bill Richardson (NM) (2009-Present)

Defeated Tickets

1. John Nance Garner (TX)/Al Smith (NY)
2. Alben Barkley (KY)/Henry Wallace (IA)
3. J. William Fullbright (AR)/ Harry Truman (MO)
4. Robert A. Taft (OH)/Earl Warren (CA)
5. Estes Kefauver (TN)/ Adlai Stevenson (IL)
6. W. Averell Harriman (NY)/ Stuart Symington (MO)
7. William Knowland (CA)/Kenneth Keating (NY)
8. Nelson Rockefeller (NY)/John Tower (TX), George Wallace (AL)/Curtis LeMay (CA)
9. Barry Goldwater (AZ)/Gerald Ford (MI)
10. Henry "Scoop" Jackson (WA)/Ed Muskie (ME)
11. Ted Kennedy (MA)/Lloyd Bentsen (TX)
12. Ernst Hollings (SC)/John Glenn (OH)
13. Bob Dole (KS)/ Jack Kemp (NY)
14. Arlen Specter (PA)/ John McCain (AZ)
15. Pete Wilson (CA)/ Al D'Amato (NY),H. Ross Perot (TX)/Pat Choate
16. Al Gore (TN)/John Kerry (MA)
17. John Edwards (NC)/Dennis Kucinich (OH)
18. Chuck Hagel (NE)/Fred Thompson (TN)
19. Mitt Romney (MA)/Susana Martinez (NM)
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« Reply #1512 on: November 05, 2014, 07:36:21 PM »

Al Gore (D-TN)/Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) 2001-2005
John McCain (R-AZ)/Joe Lieberman (I-CT) 2005-2009
Al Gore (D-TN)/Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) 2009-2013
Larry Pressler (I-SD)/Buddy Roemer (I-LA) 2013-2017
Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Barack Obama (D-IL) 2017-2021
Rand Paul (R-KY)/Larry Hogan (R-MD) 2021-2029
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« Reply #1513 on: November 06, 2014, 04:06:56 PM »

Al Gore (D-TN)/Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) 2001-2005
John McCain (R-AZ)/Joe Lieberman (I-CT) 2005-2009
Al Gore (D-TN)/Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) 2009-2013
Larry Pressler (I-SD)/Buddy Roemer (I-LA) 2013-2017
Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Barack Obama (D-IL) 2017-2021
Rand Paul (R-KY)/Larry Hogan (R-MD) 2021-2029

That's a very interesting list...I may incorporate some of this into a future TL
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« Reply #1514 on: November 07, 2014, 11:18:51 PM »

1789-1797: John Jay (Federalist)
1797-1801: Oliver Ellsworth (Federalist)
1801-1809: Aaron Burr (Republican)
1809-1812: George Clinton (Republican)
1812-1813: John Langdon (Republican)
1813-1821: DeWitt Clinton (Republican)
1821-1829: James Monroe (Republican)
1829-1837: Andrew Jackson (Democratic)
1837-1841: Martin Van Buren (Democratic)
1841-1845: Henry Clay (Whig)
1845-1849: Martin Van Buren (Democratic)
1849-1852: Henry Clay (Whig)
1852-1853: Abbott Lawrence (Whig)
1853-1861: Stephen Douglas (Democratic)
1861-1869: John C. Fremont (Republican)
1869-1885: Ulysses S. Grant (Republican)
1885-1889: Grover Cleveland (Democratic)
1889-1893: Walter Q. Gresham (Republican)
1893-1897: Grover Cleveland (Democratic)
1897-1902: Thomas B. Reed (Republican)
1902-1909: Theodore Roosevelt (Republican)
1909-1913: Robert La Follette (Republican)
1913-1921: Thomas R. Marshall (Democratic)
1921-1925: Robert La Follette (Republican)
1925-1933: Irvine Lenroot (Republican)
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1945-1953: Henry Wallace (Democratic)
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« Reply #1515 on: November 08, 2014, 12:26:46 PM »

Presidents of the United States
18. Ulysses S. Grant (Republican) 1869-1873
19. Charles O'Conor (Democratic) 1873-1881
20. James Garfield (Radical Democracy) 1881*
21. Chester A. Arthur (Radical Democracy) 1881-1886*
23. John Sherman (Radical Democracy) 1886-1889
24. Benjamin Harrison (Radical Democracy) 1889-1897
25. Thomas B. Reed (Radical Democracy) 1897-1902*
26. Theodore Roosevelt (Radical Democracy) 1902-1919*
27. Hiram Johnson (Radical Democracy) 1919-1921
28. Charles E. Russell (Independent) 1921-1925
29. Robert La Follette (Radical) 1925*
30. Burton K. Wheeler (Radical) 1925-1933
31. Franklin Roosevelt (Liberal Democrat) 1933-1940**
32. Douglas MacArthur (National Rally) 1940-1944***

*Died in office.
**Resigned, along with his Vice President John Nance Garner, after appointing Douglas MacArthur as Secretary of State and allowing the transfer of power to his right-wing nationalist regime as civil war raged across the nation.
***Overthrown with the conclusion of the American Revolution in 1944. Constitution of 1788-89 suspended and a new constitutional convention called by the victorious revolutionaries.

General-Secretaries of the American Workers' Republic

1. Dwight Eisenhower (American Section of the Communist International) 1944-1946
2. Haim Kantorovich (League of Social Democrats) 1946-1954
3. Dorothy Day (Christian Workers' Movement) 1954-1959
4. Dwight Eisenhower (Communist Party) 1959-1969
5. Malcolm Little (Communist Party) 1969-1974
6. Murray Bookchin (Communalist Action) 1974-1981
7. Fred Hampton (Socialist Workers Party) 1981-1995
8. Richard Wolff (Communist Party) 1995-2007
9. Chris Hedges (Communist Party) 2007-2012
10. Kshama Sawant (Socialist Workers Party) 2012-
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« Reply #1516 on: November 08, 2014, 02:47:24 PM »

Alternate List Two, this time the divergence lands on Kennedy not being assasinated

1. John F. Kennedy(MA)/Lyndon Johnson (TX) (1961-1969)
2. Lyndon Johnson(TX)/Hubert Humphrey(MN) (1969-1973)
3. Nelson Rockefeller (NY)*/Gerald Ford (MI) (1973-1974)
4. Gerald Ford (MI)/Bob Dole (KS) (1974-1981)
5. Jimmy Carter(GA)/Walter Mondale(MN) (1981-1985)
6. George Bush(TX)/Howard Baker(TN)(1985-1993)
7. Jerry Brown(CA)/Jesse Jackson (MS) (1993-1997)
8. Lamar Alexander (TN)/Al D'Amato (NY) (1997-2001)
9. Al Gore (TN)/Bob Kerrey (NE) (2001-2009)
10. Rick Santorum (PA)/ Lindsey Graham (SC) (2009-2013)
11. Barack Obama (IL)/ Janet Napolitano (AZ) (2013- Present)

Defeated Tickets

1. Richard Nixon (CA)/Henry Cabot Lodge (MA)
2. Barry Goldwater (AZ)/ Prescott Bush (CT)
3. George Romney (MI)/John Tower (TX)
4. Hubert Humphrey (MN)/ Ed Muskie (ME)
5. Ed Muskie (ME)/Frank Church (ID)
6. Bob Dole (KS)/John Connally (TX)
7. Jimmy Carter (GA)/Walter Mondale (MN)
8. Gary Hart (CO)/Michael Dukakis (MA)
9. John Warner (VA)/Dan Quayle (IN)
10. Bill Clinton (AR)/ Richard Gephardt (MO)
11. Lamar Alexander (TN)/ Al D'Amato (NY)
12. John McCain (AZ)/ Jeb Bush (FL)
13. John Edwards (NC)/  Russ Feingold (WI)
14. Rick Santorum (PA)/ Lindsey Graham (SC)
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« Reply #1517 on: November 08, 2014, 04:00:11 PM »

Considered making this a timeline, but considering my previous attempts at timelines from distant electoral history it is probably better I make a brief synopsis instead. Consider this a reboot of the "A Tale of Two Texans" timeline:

John Kennedy/Lyndon Johnson 1961-1965

Thought by virtually everyone to be a lock for reelection, Kennedy largely took a second term for granted against Barry Goldwater. Despite trailing by double digits in preelection polls, Goldwater secured a narrow victory in both the popular vote and the Electoral College, winning the key states of California (largely thanks to devoted campaigning by surrogates Governor Richard Nixon and actor Ronald Reagan), Texas (where Johnson's removal from the Democratic ticket stung the most), Illinois (where Dirksen helped more than expected and Daley underestimated the need for additional "help"), and every Southern state except North Carolina (which continued their post-1952 trend to the GOP.)

Barry Goldwater/Everett Dirksen 1965-1969

Large gains in the House and Senate gave the GOP only narrow minorities in both chambers, which allowed Goldwater to significantly rein in federal spending thanks to a coalition of conservative Republicans and Boll Weevil Democrats. However, a minor recession in 1966 restored Democrats' effective control of both chambers, which while falling short of veto-proof was substantive enough to thwart most of Goldwater's domestic agenda. In foreign policy, Goldwater's reputation as a loose cannon proved effective at bringing the North Vietnamese to the negotiating table, securing an armistice to the Vietnam conflict as well as a gradual withdrawal of American forces deployed there in 1964. Frustration with partisan gridlock propelled Governor Romney to a popular albeit ill-fated primary battle with the sitting President, draining resources from the tough general election to follow.

Lyndon Johnson/Hubert Humphrey 1969-1973

Ousted Vice-President Johnson proved a much more formidable opponent than the man who dumped him. Johnson easily bested primary opponents Senator Humphrey and Governor Sanford, touting his electability and ability to get things done. Although Johnson ruthlessly attacked the President for being ineffectual, stubborn, and crazy, Johnson's distastefulness kept the battle a close one. Ultimately, Johnson narrowly prevailed. However, Johnson did not have enough coattails to obtain substantial legislative majorities, leading to mixed success in implementing his Great Society agenda.

Richard Nixon/George Bush 1973-1981

The President's ailing health, renewed North Vietnamese attacks (and subsequent increased American involvement), a divided Democratic Party, and domestic civil unrest all worked to Governor Nixon's favor as he secured an impressive victory over Vice-President Humphrey. Nixon once again escalated the Vietnam conflict, launching a merciless bombing campaign against the North for violating the 1966 peace accord. The tide of the war appeared to have turned enough that Nixon implemented his plan of Vietnamization. On the domestic front, Nixon enacted wage and price controls and ended the Bretton Woods monetary system, while increasing efforts to desegregate the South. Events went downhill for Nixon after winning a landslide second term, as the culmination of an oil crisis, stagflation, the Iranian revolution, and scandals came to define his administration.

Jerry Brown/Walter Mondale 1981-

Nixon's successor to the California governorship ultimately became his successor to the Presidency, as public sentiment toward the outgoing administration proved so hostile that even Vice-President Bush's attacks on Brown's social liberalism and the October 28 release of American hostages from the Iranian embassy proved insufficient to overcome Brown's massive lead.

Defeated tickets:
1964: John Kennedy/Terry Sanford
1968: Barry Goldwater/Everett Dirksen
1972: Hubert Humphrey/Edmund Muskie
1976: Edmund Muskie/Henry Jackson
1980: George Bush/Donald Rumsfeld
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« Reply #1518 on: November 08, 2014, 04:29:28 PM »
« Edited: November 08, 2014, 04:33:12 PM by Del Tachi »

33.  Harry Truman (D-MO) / Alben Barkley (D-KY); 1945-1949
34.  Thomas Dewey (R-NY) / Earl Warren (R-CA); 1949-1953
35.  Franklin Roosevelt, Jr. (D-NY) / Estes Kefauver (D-TN); 1953-1955 [1]
36.  Estes Kefauver (D-TN) / Hubert Humphrey (D-MN); 1955-1961

37.  Prescott Bush (R-CT) / Richard Nixon (R-CA); 1961-1969
38.  Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) / Henry "Scoop" Jackson (D-WA); 1969-1977
39.  Henry "Scoop" Jackson (D-WA) / Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX); 1977-1978 [2]
40.  Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) / Tip O'Neil (D-MA); 1978-1981 

41.  George H.W. Bush (R-TX) / Howard Baker (R-TN); 1981-1989
42.  Bill Clinton (D-AR) / Mario Cuomo (D-NY); 1989-1993
43.  Bob Dole (R-KS) / Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL); 1993-2001
44.  Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL) / George Allen (R-VA); 2001-2005

45.  John Kerry (D-MA) / Bill Richardson (D-NM); 2005-2013
46.  Mitt Romney (R-MA) / John McCain (R-AZ); 2013-present

[1] President Roosevelt is assassinated in New York City on March 3, 1955.  Vice President Estes Kefauver assumes office; Hubert Humphrey is elected VP alongside Kefauver in 1956. 

[2] President Jackson dies in Washington on October 23, 1978 following a stroke.  Vice President Lloyd Bentsen assumes office; the Senate confirms Speaker of the House Tip O'Neil as Vice President on November 15, 1978.   
That looks like a pretty good list! BTW, does Strom Thurmond mount a third-party bid against President Estes Kefauver in 1956 over the Civil Rights issue?

Thanks, I've been thinking about fleshing it out into a TL.  The prospect of a Prescott Bush presidency from 1961 to 1969 I just find very intriguing.  What if the Great Society was a Republican-led initiative?  How does that affect both parties going forward?

As for the Strom Thurmond issue, I think 1950s Democrats would be pretty mum on the Civil Rights issue.  Pressy's going to take care of Civil Rights come the '60s though. 
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« Reply #1519 on: November 08, 2014, 05:53:26 PM »

George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Phil Crane (R-IL) 1981-1989
Howard Baker (R-TN)/Bill Armstrong (R-CO) 1989-1997
Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Bill Bradley (D-NJ) 1997-2001
John McCain (R-AZ)/Chuck Hagel (R-NE) 2001-2009
Barack Obama (D-IL)/Joe Biden (D-DE) 2009-2017
Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Mary Landrieu (D-LA) 2017-2021
Cory Gardner (R-CO)/Charlie Baker (R-MA) 2021-2029
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« Reply #1520 on: November 09, 2014, 12:00:18 AM »

37. Robert F. Kennedy: 1969-1973
38. Ronald Reagan: 1973-1981
39. Gerald Ford: 1981-1989
40. Michael Dukakis: 1989-1997
41. Bill Clinton: 1997-2001
42. John McCain: 2001-2009
43. John Kerry: 2009-2013
44. Mitt Romney: 2013-
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« Reply #1521 on: November 11, 2014, 01:43:46 AM »

2000: Bush opts out
Dan Quayle (R-IN)/Elizabeth Dole (R-NC) 2001-2005
John Kerry (D-MA)/Hillary Clinton (D-NY) 2005-2009
Michael Steele (R-MD)/Orrin Hatch (R-UT) 2009-2017
Brian Schweitzer (D-MT)/Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) 2017-2021
Justin Amash (R-MI)/George P. Bush (R-TX) 2021-2029

Defeated Tickets:
2000: Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Lieberman (I-CT)
2004: Dan Quayle (R-IN)/Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)
2008: John Kerry (D-MA)/Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
2012: Jerry Brown (D-CA)/Bill Nelson (D-FL)
2016: Chris Cristie (R-NJ)/Scott Walker (R-WI)
2020: Brian Schweitzer (D-MT)/Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)
2024: Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)/Tim Kaine (D-VA)
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« Reply #1522 on: November 11, 2014, 10:51:05 AM »

Presidents: 2017-2049
45. Hillary Clinton: 2017-2021
46. Brian Sandoval: 2021-2029
47. Cory Gardner: 2029-2033

48. Julian Castro: 2033-2041
49. George P. Bush: 2041-2049

Defeated Tickets: 2016-2048

2016: Rand Paul/Kelly Ayotte
2020: Cory Booker/Gavin Newsom
2024: Joseph P. Kennedy/Tammy Baldwin
2028: Kirsten Gillibrand/Kamala Harris
2032: Cory Gardner/George P. Bush
2036: Marco Rubio/Mia Love
2040: Chelsea Clinton/Joaquin Castro
2044: Unknown Democrat/Unknown Democrat
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« Reply #1523 on: November 12, 2014, 07:02:17 PM »

Madam President:

Sen. Margaret Chase Smith (R-ME)/Gov. Ronald Reagan (R-CA) 1969-1977
VP. Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Sen. Bob Dole (R-KS) 1977-1981
Sen. Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)/Gov. Dixy Lee Ray (D-WA) 1981-1989
Sen. Nancy Kassebaum (R-KS)/Sen. Richard Lugar (R-IN) 1989-1997
Gov. Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Carol Moseley Braun (D-IL)* 1997-2001
SoS. Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)/Sen. Barry Goldwater Jr. (R-CA) 2001-2005
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Sen. John Edwards (D-NC)* 2005-2009
VP. Barry Goldwater Jr. (R-CA)/Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) 2009-2017
Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL)/Sen. Kristen Gillibrand (D-NY) 2017-2021
Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC)/Gov. Charlie Baker (R-MA) 2021-

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« Reply #1524 on: November 12, 2014, 10:14:42 PM »

44. Barack Obama: 2009-2017
45. Christopher Christie: 2017-2021
45. Kirsten Gillibrand: 2021-2029
46. Julian Castro: 2029-2037

46. Cory Gardner: 2037-2045

Defeated Tickets:
2016: Hillary Clinton/Mark Warner
2020: Chris Christie/Scott Walker
2024: Scott Walker/Charlie Baker
2028: Aaron Shock/Pat Toomey
2032: Justin Amash/Josh Romney

2036: Allison Lundergan Grimes/Gavin Newsom
2040: Unknown Democrat/Unknown Democrat

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