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« Reply #1675 on: April 21, 2015, 12:21:19 PM »

Looks like Cassius Clay is the greatest President "of all time."
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« Reply #1676 on: April 21, 2015, 02:10:53 PM »

32. Franklin Roosevelt (D-New York) 1933-451
33. Harold Stassen (R-Minnesota) 1945-492
34. Dwight Eisenhower (D-Texas) 1949-573
35. Adlai Stevenson (D-Illinois) 1957-614
36. John F. Kennedy (D-Massachusetts) 19615
37. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-Texas) 1961-656
38. Nelson Rockefeller (R-New York) 1965-69
39. Franklin D. Roosevelt, Jr. (D-New York) 1969-737
40. Nelson Rockefeller (R-New York) 1973-77
41. Adlai E. Stevenson III (D-Illinois) 1977-818
42. Lloyd M. Bentsen (D-Texas) 1981-899
43. Michael Dukakis (D-Massachusetts) 1989-93
44. Thomas Kean (R-New Jersey) 1993-200110
45. Rod Blagojevich (D-Illinois) 2001-0311
46. Robert Casey, Jr. (D-Pennsylvania) 2003-09
47. Bill Gates (D-Washington) 2009-13
48. Mitt Romney (R-Massachusetts) 2013-

1Died in office.
2Ran on a national unity ticket with Roosevelt in 1944 against General Douglas MacArthur. Had stormy relations with the liberal 80th United States Congress that lead to his being impeached by the House and nearly convicted (short of one vote) by the Senate. Wildly unpopular, did not seek re-election in 1948, as neither party wanted to touch him with a 10 foot pole.
3Enacted much of his 'Fair Deal' agenda, but increasingly came up against a hostile Congress in doing so, especially when conservatives took back control of Congress in 1954 following a deep recession beginning in 1953.
4Lost the popular vote to Republican Nelson Rockefeller. A hung electoral college resulted in his being elected by Congress in return for an agreement with the Republicans not to press for liberal legislation while in office.
5Assassinated.
6Successfully pushed through civil rights legislation, which angered enough of the Democratic Party that he was denied a shot at the Presidency in 1964.
7Won thanks to the electoral college. Lost the popular vote to Rockefeller, who would return and defeat him for a second term in 1972.
8Assassinated.
9Noted 'reformer' who presided over the deregulation of much of the economy, a major anti-union drive by employers (backed by his administration) and the adoption of a more 'muscular' (i.e. anti-Soviet) foreign policy.
10Oversaw the U.S.-led war against the Soviet Union in 1997, which ended up making him unpopular at the close of the conflict and led to the worst defeat of the Republican Party since the 1930s in the 1998 midterm elections.
11Assassinated.
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« Reply #1677 on: April 21, 2015, 02:40:17 PM »

FDR=Lincoln analogue
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« Reply #1678 on: April 22, 2015, 11:25:49 AM »

4O'Donnell would finish the war with France, presiding over the leveling of Paris with 'rods from god' (i.e. kinetic energy weapons fired from space).

Have you been reading Frank Miller's "The Dark Knight Strikes Again" recently?
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« Reply #1679 on: April 22, 2015, 11:28:14 AM »

4O'Donnell would finish the war with France, presiding over the leveling of Paris with 'rods from god' (i.e. kinetic energy weapons fired from space).

Have you been reading Frank Miller's "The Dark Knight Strikes Again" recently?

I'm not familiar with it, no
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« Reply #1680 on: April 22, 2015, 11:36:12 AM »

4O'Donnell would finish the war with France, presiding over the leveling of Paris with 'rods from god' (i.e. kinetic energy weapons fired from space).

Have you been reading Frank Miller's "The Dark Knight Strikes Again" recently?

I'm not familiar with it, no

Entertaining work, but a far cry in terms of quality from its prequel, "The Dark Knight Returns". Long story short, Lex Luthor makes reference to gigantic metal rods being fired from space cannons, shot into the ground. I don't think they were intended for targets so much as to cause globe-wide disruption of seismic activity and create general death and destruction. Thought it might have inspired your choice of weaponry. "Rods from God", love it.
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« Reply #1681 on: April 22, 2015, 01:01:30 PM »

25. William Jennings Bryan (Democrat-Nebraska)/Arthur Sewall (Democrat-Maine), Adlai Ewing Stevenson I (Democrat-Illinois) March 4th, 1897-September 14th, 1901
26. Adlai Ewing Stevenson I (Democrat-Illinois) September 14th, 1901-March 4th, 1905

27. Theodore Roosevelt (Republican-New York)/Charles Warren Fairbanks (Republican-Indiana) March 4th, 1905-March 4th, 1909
28. George Brinton McClellan, Jr. (Democrat-New York)/John W. Kern (Democrat-Indiana) March 4th, 1909-March 4th, 1913
29. Theodore Roosevelt (Republican-New York)/William Howard Taft (Republican-Ohio) March 4th, 1913-March 4th, 1917
30. Thomas Woodrow Wilson (Democrat-New Jersey)/Thomas Riley Marshall (Democrat-Indiana), Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat-New York) March 4th, 1917-February 3rd, 1922
31. Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat-New York)/Charles Wayland Bryan (Democrat-Nebraska) February 3rd, 1922-March 4th, 1929

32. William Gibbs McAdoo (Democrat-California)/Joseph Taylor Robinson (Democrat-Arkansas) March 4th, 1929-March 4th, 1933
33. Gifford Pinchot (Republican-Pennsylvania)/Charles Curtis (Republican-Kansas) March 4th, 1933-January 20th, 1941
34. John Nance Garner (Democrat-Texas)/Joseph Patrick Kennedy I (Democrat-Massachusetts) January 20th, 1941-November 22nd, 1943
35. Joseph Patrick Kennedy I (Democrat-Massachusetts)/Harry Hines Woodring (Democrat-Kansas) November 22nd, 1943-January 20th, 1949
36. Wendell Lewis Willkie (Democrat-Indiana)/Alben William Barkley (Democrat-Kentucky) January 20th, 1949-January 20th, 1953

37. Thomas Edmund Dewey (Republican-New York)/Joseph William Martin, Jr. (Republican-Massachusetts), Hubert Horatio Humphrey (Republican-Minnesota), Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican-California) January 20th, 1953-March 16th, 1965
38. Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican-California)/Hugh Doggett Scott, Jr. (Republican-Pennsylvania) March 16th, 1965-January 20th, 1973

39. Henry Martin Jackson (Democrat-Washington)/Lloyd Millard Bentsen, Jr. (Democrat-Texas) January 20th, 1973-January 20th, 1981
40. Edward William Brooke III (Republican-Massachusetts)/Howard Henry Baker, Jr. (Republican-Tennessee) January 20th, 1981-March 30th, 1983
41. Howard Henry Baker, III (Republican-Tennessee)/John Bayard Anderson (Republican-Illinois) March 30th, 1983-January 20th, 1989

42. Lloyd Millard Bentsen, Jr. (Democrat-Texas)/Gary Warren Hart (Democrat-Colorado), Robert Carlyle Byrd (Democrat-West Virginia) January 20th, 1989-December 22nd, 1994
43. Robert Carlyle Byrd (Democrat-West Virginia)/Adlai Ewing Stevenson III (Democrat-Illinois) December 22nd, 1994-January 20th, 1997

44. Newton Leroy Gingrich (Republican-Georgia)/Arlen Specter (Republican-Pennsylvania) January 20th, 1997-January 20th, 2001
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« Reply #1682 on: April 22, 2015, 01:22:28 PM »

23. William T. Sherman (R-Ohio) 1889-97
24. Robert T. Lincoln (R-Illinois) 1897-1901
25. Thomas F. Bayard (D-Delaware) 1901-09
26. John Hay (R-DC) 1909-17
27. Philander C. Knox (R-Pennsylvania) 1917-25
28. Robert Lansing (D-New York) 1925-29
29. John K. Shields (D-Tennessee) 1929-37
30. Henry L. Stimson (R-New York) 1937-41
31. Jefferson Caffery (R-Louisiana) 19411
32. Claude A. Swanson (D-Virginia) 1941-452
33. Prentice Cooper (D-Tennessee) 1945-49
34. Dwight D. Eisenhower (R-Texas) 1949-503
35. Frank C. Moore (R-New York) 1950-53
36. Fred H. Brown (D-New Hampshire) 1953-57
37. Winthrop W. Aldrich (R-Rhode Island) 1957-61
38. Thomas L. Owens (R-Illinois) 1961-654
39. Earl B. Ellington (D-Tennessee) 1965-695
40. Matthew Ridgway (R-Pennsylvania) 1969-77
41. James A. "Jim" Rhodes (R-Ohio) 1977-81
42. Charles J. Carney (D-Ohio) 19816
43. Anthony Scotto (D-New York) 1981-85
44. Mario Cuomo (D-New York) 1985-89
45. Richard Lugar (R-Indiana) 1989-93
46. Mario Cuomo (D-New York) 1993-97
47. George Voinovich (R-Ohio) 1997-20017
48. George Pataki (R-New York) 2001-09
49. Donald Rumsfeld (R-Illinois) 2009-13
50. Chris Christie (R-New Jersey) 2013-

1Assassinated.
2Ran on a National Unity ticket with Caffery in 1940.
3Assassinated.
4Assassinated.
5Ran on a National Unity ticket with Owens in 1960.
6Assassinated.
7Assassinated.
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« Reply #1683 on: April 22, 2015, 03:34:44 PM »

25. William Jennings Bryan (Democrat-Nebraska)/Arthur Sewall (Democrat-Maine), Adlai Ewing Stevenson I (Democrat-Illinois) March 4th, 1897-September 14th, 1901
26. Adlai Ewing Stevenson I (Democrat-Illinois) September 14th, 1901-March 4th, 1905

27. Theodore Roosevelt (Republican-New York)/Charles Warren Fairbanks (Republican-Indiana) March 4th, 1905-March 4th, 1909
28. George Brinton McClellan, Jr. (Democrat-New York)/John W. Kern (Democrat-Indiana) March 4th, 1909-March 4th, 1913
29. Theodore Roosevelt (Republican-New York)/William Howard Taft (Republican-Ohio) March 4th, 1913-March 4th, 1917
30. Thomas Woodrow Wilson (Democrat-New Jersey)/Thomas Riley Marshall (Democrat-Indiana), Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat-New York) March 4th, 1917-February 3rd, 1922
31. Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat-New York)/Charles Wayland Bryan (Democrat-Nebraska) February 3rd, 1922-March 4th, 1929

32. William Gibbs McAdoo (Democrat-California)/Joseph Taylor Robinson (Democrat-Arkansas) March 4th, 1929-March 4th, 1933
33. Gifford Pinchot (Republican-Pennsylvania)/Charles Curtis (Republican-Kansas) March 4th, 1933-January 20th, 1941
34. John Nance Garner (Democrat-Texas)/Joseph Patrick Kennedy I (Democrat-Massachusetts) January 20th, 1941-November 22nd, 1943
35. Joseph Patrick Kennedy I (Democrat-Massachusetts)/Harry Hines Woodring (Democrat-Kansas) November 22nd, 1943-January 20th, 1949
36. Wendell Lewis Willkie (Democrat-Indiana)/Alben William Barkley (Democrat-Kentucky) January 20th, 1949-January 20th, 1953

37. Thomas Edmund Dewey (Republican-New York)/Joseph William Martin, Jr. (Republican-Massachusetts), Hubert Horatio Humphrey (Republican-Minnesota), Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican-California) January 20th, 1953-March 16th, 1965
38. Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican-California)/Hugh Doggett Scott, Jr. (Republican-Pennsylvania) March 16th, 1965-January 20th, 1973

39. Henry Martin Jackson (Democrat-Washington)/Lloyd Millard Bentsen, Jr. (Democrat-Texas) January 20th, 1973-January 20th, 1981
40. Edward William Brooke III (Republican-Massachusetts)/Howard Henry Baker, Jr. (Republican-Tennessee) January 20th, 1981-March 30th, 1983
41. Howard Henry Baker, III (Republican-Tennessee)/John Bayard Anderson (Republican-Illinois) March 30th, 1983-January 20th, 1989

42. Lloyd Millard Bentsen, Jr. (Democrat-Texas)/Gary Warren Hart (Democrat-Colorado), Robert Carlyle Byrd (Democrat-West Virginia) January 20th, 1989-December 22nd, 1994
43. Robert Carlyle Byrd (Democrat-West Virginia)/Adlai Ewing Stevenson III (Democrat-Illinois) December 22nd, 1994-January 20th, 1997

44. Newton Leroy Gingrich (Republican-Georgia)/Arlen Specter (Republican-Pennsylvania) January 20th, 1997-January 20th, 2001

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« Reply #1684 on: April 24, 2015, 10:39:51 AM »

28. Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive-New York) 1913-191
29. Hiram Johnson (P-California) 1919-21
30. James Cox (Democratic-Ohio) 1921-232
31. Franklin Roosevelt (D-New York) 1923-25
32. Robert La Follette (Farmer-Labor-Wisconsin) 19253
33. Burton K. Wheeler (FL-Montana) 1925-29
34. Al Smith (D-New York) 1929-33
35. Herbert Hoover (P-California) 1933-41
36. Wendell Willkie (D-Indiana) 1941-444
37. Cordell Hull (D-Tennessee) 1944-495
38. Thomas Dewey (P-New York) 1949-57
39. Earl Warren (P-California) 1957-61
40. Wayne Morse (FL-Oregon) 1961-636
41. Hubert Humphrey (FL-Minnesota) 1963-69
42. Christine Washington (D-Wyoming) 1969-747
43. John Haase (D-Ohio) 1974-77
44. Marjorie Dyer (P-Georgia) 1977-81
45. Robert Crutcher (FL-Texas) 1981-85
46. Melinda McCourt (D-New York) 1985-89
47. Olivia Miller (FL-Pennsylvania) 1989-93
48. Dianne Byers (P-Georgia) 1993-2001
49. William Bowman (Citizens-North Carolina) 2001-09
50. Alfonso Hutchison (American-Texas) 2009-17

1Died in office.
2Died in office.
3Died in office.
4Died in office.
5Ascended to the Presidency while Secretary of State, owing to the death of Vice President Alva Adams in December 1941.
6Assassinated.
7Assassinated.
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« Reply #1685 on: April 25, 2015, 06:58:27 PM »

What If: Rocky '68

37. Hubert H Humphrey/Robert F Kennedy (1969-1977)
38. Gerald Ford/Bob Dole (1977-1985)
39. Bob Dole/Thomas Kean (1985-1993)
40. Chris Dodd/Tom Harkin (1993-2001)
41. Colin Powell/Orrin Hatch (2001-2009)
42. Barack Obama/Howard Dean (2009-2017)
43. John Kasich/Ken Buck (2017-Present)

Losing Tickets

68: Nelson Rockefeller/George Romney
72: George Romney/John Connally
76: Robert F Kennedy/Thomas Eagleton
80: Ted Kennedy/Jimmy Carter
84: Michael Dukakis/Walter Mondale
88: Jimmy Carter/Jerry Brown
92: George HW Bush/John Sununu
96: Steve Forbes/Colin Powell
00: Dick Durbin/Tom Daschle
04: John Edwards/Bill Richardson
08: Orrin Hatch/Condi Rice
12: Mitt Romney/Tom Coburn
16: Jesse Jackson/Kirsten Gillibrand
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« Reply #1686 on: May 02, 2015, 03:38:33 PM »

Ford Comeback

38. Gerald Ford/Nelson Rockefeller (1974-1977)
39. Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale (1977-1981)
40. Gerald Ford/Bill Brock (1981-1985)
41. Gary Hart/Dale Bumpers (1985-1989)
42. Dale Bumpers/Bob Graham (1989-1993)
43. George Deukmejian/John McCain (1993-2001)
44. Steve Ford/Lamar Alexander (2001-2009)
45. Michelle Obama/Wesley Clark (2009-2017)
46. Wesley Clark/Joaquin Castro (2017-2021)
47. Ben Sasse/Susana Martinez (2021-2029)

Tickets that Lost
1976 - Gerald Ford/Bob Dole
1980 - Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale
1984 - Bill Brock/Paul Laxalt
1988 - George Deukmejian/Donald Rumsfeld
1992 - Dale Bumpers/Bob Graham
1996 - Paul Wellstone/Al Gore
2000 - John Kerry/Richard Gephardt
2004 - John Kerry/John Edwards
2008 - John McCain/Eric Cantor
2012 - Mike Huckabee/Jon Huntsman
2016 - John Gardner Ford/Scott Walker
2020 - Wesley Clark/Joaquin Castro
2024 - Kirsten Gillibrand/Kamela Harris
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« Reply #1687 on: May 05, 2015, 11:58:05 AM »

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-New York) 1933-41
33. Wendell L. Willkie (R-Indiana) 1941-441
34. Arthur H. Vandenberg (R-Michigan) 1944-512
35. Earl Warren (R-California) 1951-53
36. Adlai E. Stevenson II (D-Illinois) 1953-61
37. John F. Kennedy (D-Massachusetts) 1961-633
38. Stuart Symington (D-Missouri) 1963-69
39. George W. Romney (R-Michigan) 1969-73
40. Robert F. Kennedy (D-New York) 1973-81
41. Aubrey R. Lopez (Labor-California) 1981-894
42. Paul Flowers (D-Washington) 1989-974
43. Melvin De Soto (D-Alabama) 1997-20014
44. Brian McCray (L-Mississippi) 2001-094
45. Joshua Mollica (D-New York) 2009-134
46. Teresa Burnett (L-Florida) 2013-214
47. David Gutierrez (D-California) 2021-294
48. Roy Howe (D-Pennsylvania) 2029-374
49. Dawn Andreas (L-Texas) 2037-454
50. Curtis DeLeon (L-Hawaii) 2045-494
51. Edward McGee (D-Arizona) 2049-4

1Died in office.
2Became President owing to the vacancy of the Vice Presidency after the death of Charles McNary in 1944. Died in office.
3Assassinated.
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« Reply #1688 on: May 07, 2015, 10:28:54 AM »
« Edited: May 07, 2015, 11:31:21 AM by America's New Day »

What If? Anti-War Ticket '68

37. Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew (1969-1973), Nelson Rockefeller (1973-1974) (1969-1974)
38. Nelson Rockefeller/Bob Taft, Jr. (1974-1985)
39. Pete DuPont/George HW Bush (1985-1993)
40. Bill Bradley/Bob Graham (1993-2001)
41. Bob Graham/Chris Dodd (2001-2005)
42. George W Bush/Orrin Hatch (2005-2013)
43. Mitt Romney/John Kasich (2013-2017)
44. Tom Wolf/Michael Bennet (2017-2021)
45.Rob Portman/Mia Love (2021-2029)

Losing Tickets
1968: Lyndon Johnson/Hubert Humphrey, George McGovern/Eugene McCarthy
1972: Ted Kennedy/Mo Udall
1976: Hubert Humphrey/Ed Muskie
1980: Jimmy Carter/Birch Bayh
1984: Walter Mondale/Jerry Brown
1988: Michael Dukakis/Gary Hart
1992: George HW Bush/Bob Martinez
1996: Steve Forbes/Lamar Alexander
2000: John McCain/Arlen Specter
2004: Bob Graham/Chris Dodd
2008: Al Gore/John Kerry
2012: John Edwards/Joe Biden
2016: Mitt Romney/John Kasich
2020: Michael Bennet/Kirsten Gillibrand
2024: Cory Booker/Kamala Harris
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« Reply #1689 on: May 07, 2015, 10:49:10 AM »

Messing around...
1937-1949: Huey P. Long / Charles Coughlin (SOW)
1949-1957: Strom Thurmond / Curtis LeMay (Traditionalist)
1957-1961: Wayne Morse / Eugene McCarthy (People's)
1961-1969: Curtis LeMay / Orval Fabus (Traditionalist)
1969-1970: Eugene McCarthy / Eric Hass (People's)
1970-1973: Barry Goldwater / George Wallace (Traditionalist)
1973-Nuclear war breaks out and world ends
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« Reply #1690 on: May 13, 2015, 11:01:23 AM »

Presidents of the United States since 1913

28. Woodrow Wilson (D-New Jersey) 1913-221
29. Thomas Marshall (D-Indiana) 1922-25
30. John Weeks (R-Massachusetts) 1925-281
31. Charles Dawes (R-Illinois) 1928-37
32. William Murray (D-Oklahoma) 1937-431
33. Millard Tydings (D-Maryland) 1943-49
34. George Counts (Labor-New York) 1949-53
35. Millard Tydings (D-Maryland) 1953-581
36. Dean Acheson (D-Connecticut) 1958-61
37. Wayne Morse (L-Oregon) 1961-69
38. Richard Nixon (D-California) 1969-742
39. Dean Acheson (D-Connecticut) 1974-77
40. Hugh Scott (D-Pennsylvania) 1977-81
41. Howard Hughes (L-Texas) 1981-893
42. Irma Scott Epps (D-Hawaii) 1989-933
43. Howard Hughes (L-Texas) 1993-9831
44. Mark Colson (L-Tennessee) 1998-20013
45. Anne Frick (D-Florida) 2001-1132
46. Paul Bledsoe (D-Michigan) 2011-173
47. Linda Reed (L-Texas) 2017-2631
48. Angela Fitzgerald (L-North Carolina) 2026-293
49. Gary Puckett (D-Tennessee) 2029-3

1Died in office.
2Resigned.
3Fictional person.

Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom, 1908-41

H.H. Asquith (Liberal) 1908-16
David Lloyd George (Liberal) 1916-18
Andrew Bonar Law (Conservative) 1918-23
Stanley Baldwin (Conservative) 1923-24
Ramsay MacDonald (Labour) 1924-29
Stanley Baldwin (Conservative) 1929-32
Oswald Moseley (British Union of Fascists) 1932-411

1Moseley overthrown.

Primers of the Socialist Republic of Great Britain, 1941-

Harry Pollitt (Communist) 1941-45
Richard Acland (Common Wealth) 1945
Harry Pollitt (Communist) 1945-51
Clement Attlee (Labour) 1951-56
John Gollan (Communist) 1956-58
Aneurin Bevan (Labour) 1958-62
Harold Wilson (Labour) 1962-73
Michael Foot (Labour) 1973-78
Tony Benn (Labour) 1978-81
Aaron Powell (Communist) 1981-861
Eloise Hayward (Communist) 1986-881
Noah Simmons (Communist) 1988-931
Tony Benn (Labour) 1993-97
Joshua Cole (Communist) 1997-20021
James Chambers (Labour) 2002-071
Alfred Stephens (Labour) 2007-121
Taylor Ward (Communist) 2012-151
Jasmine Bevan (Labour) 2015-191
Logan Bradshaw (Labour) 2019-241
Freya Sims (Internationalist) 2024-311
Jack McLean (Communist) 2031-1

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« Reply #1691 on: May 18, 2015, 09:14:19 AM »

Parliamentary U.S. from the get-go

The Philadelphia Convention creates a parliamentary system modeled closely on that of the British Isles, with the President serving the same role as the British King. The House of Representatives serves the same role of the House of Commons, and the Senate fills in for the House of Lords. Elections to Congress are held every fourth year, unless the First Secretary of the Cabinet (based in the House of Representatives, of course) decides to dissolve the chamber and call for early elections. Senators are appointed for life by members of state legislatures, at least initially.

First Secretaries of the United States of America
John Adams (Pro-Administration) 1789-92
Thomas Jefferson (Anti-Administration) 1792-96
John Adams (Federalist) 1796-1800
Thomas Jefferson (Republican) 1800-08
James Madison (Republican) 1808-15
James Monroe (Republican) 1815-24
John Q. Adams (National Republican) 1824-28
Andrew Jackson (Democratic) 1828-35
Martin Van Buren (Democratic) 1835-40
Henry Clay (Whig) 1840-44
James K. Polk (Democratic) 1844-48
Martin Van Buren (Democrat leading a Democratic-Free Soil coalition) 1848-52
Stephen Douglas (Democratic) 1852-56
James Sullivan1 (Democrat leading a Democratic-American coalition) 1856-60
John Reid1 (Liberty) 1860-62
James Seymour1 (Liberty) 1862-68
David Tobin1 (Liberty) 1868-76
Matthew Arcineaux1 (American) 1876-80
Francis Roberts1 (Liberty) 1880-84
Wilbert Whitley1 (American) 1884-88
Garret Mason1 (Liberty) 1888-92
Benjamin Graves1 (American) 1892-96
Garret Mason1 (Liberty) 1896-98
Joseph Dennison1 (Liberty) 1898-1902
Ricardo Trujillo1 (Liberty) 1902-10
Nicholas Curtis1 (Liberty) 1910-12
Karl Bosch1 (American) 1912-16
Nicholas Curtis1 (Liberty leading a Liberty-Reform coalition) 1916-18
Susanna Williams1 (Liberty) 1918-24
Russell Gold1 (Liberty) 1924-30
Margaret Church1 (Liberty) 1930-32
Rosa Rodriguez1 (Workers') 1932-34
Christie O'Rourke1 (Workers') 1934-36
Simon Webster1 (Workers') 1936-40
Patricia Hernandez1 (Workers') 1940-46
Ashley Leibowitz1 (Liberty) 1946-48
Patricia Hernandez1 (Workers') 1948-52
Ashley Leibowitz1 (Liberty) 1952-54
Patricia Hernandez1 (Workers') 1954-62
Donald Shockley1 (Workers') 1962-70
Hunter Avery1 (Workers') 1970-76
Jason Martinez1 (Workers') 1976-88
Teresa Vasquez1 (Workers') 1988-89
Jason Martinez1 (Workers') 1989-94
Richard Ford1 (Socialist) 1994-98
Kathy Johnson1 (Socialist) 1998-2006
Kelsey Post1 (Workers') 2006-10
James Montalvo1 (Socialist) 2010-

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« Reply #1692 on: May 18, 2015, 10:45:25 PM »

1929-1933: Al Smith (D)
1933-1937: Huey Long (I)
1937-1945: Alf Landon (R)
1945-1953: Henry Wallace (D)
1953(to July): Robert Taft (R)
1953(from July)-1957: Thomas Dewey (R)
1957-1965: W. Averell Harrimen (D)
1965-1973: Barry Goldwater (R)
1973-1977: George McGovern (D) (lost in primaries)
1977-1981: Lloyd Bensten (D)
1981-1989: Bob Dole (R)
1989-1993: Jerry Brown (D)
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« Reply #1693 on: May 21, 2015, 09:16:08 AM »

1961-1963: Richard M. Nixon / Henry C. Lodge (Republican)
1963-1965: Henry C. Lodge / vacant (Republican)
1965-1969: Henry C. Lodge / William E. Miller (Republican)
1969-1973: Hubert H. Humphrey / Ed S. Muskie (Democratic)
1973-1981: Gerald R. Ford / Robert J. Dole (Republican)
1981-1985: Robert J. Dole / George H.W. Bush (Republican)
1985-1993: Walter F. Mondale / Geraldine Ferraro (Democratic)
1993-1997: Robert J. Dole / Jack F. Kemp (Republican)
1997-2001: Jack F. Kemp / Richard B. Cheney (Republican)
2001-2009: Al Gore / Joe Lieberman (Democratic)
2009-2017: W. Mitt Romney / Paul Ryan (Republican)
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« Reply #1694 on: May 22, 2015, 10:09:28 AM »
« Edited: May 22, 2015, 10:11:04 AM by OC »

Teddy Kennedy-Lloyd Bentson (1981-1989)
Bob Dole (1989-1993)
Mario Cuomo-Bob Kerrey (1993-2001)
John McCain-Romney (2001-2009)
Gov Mitt Romney-Paul Ryan(2009-2013)
Gov Martin OMalley-Gov Mark Warner(2013-present)
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« Reply #1695 on: May 22, 2015, 11:41:48 AM »

Teddy Kennedy-Lloyd Bentson (1981-1989)
Bob Dole (1989-1993)
Mario Cuomo-Bob Kerrey (1993-2001)
John McCain-Romney (2001-2009)
Gov Mitt Romney-Paul Ryan(2009-2013)
Gov Martin OMalley-Gov Mark Warner(2013-present)
That seems about right for a scenario where either Gerald Ford defeats Jimmy Carter in 1976 or a scenario where the Iranian Revolution does not occur. One of the possible reasons why Jimmy Carter was able to defeat Ted Kennedy in the 1980 Democratic Primaries was because the Iranian Revolution and the resulting Hostage Crisis created a rally 'round the flag effect that increased his approval rating and made potential Kennedy supporters flock to him in the 1980 Democratic Primaries.
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« Reply #1696 on: May 24, 2015, 02:27:59 PM »

Poor Pat; Richards vs Buchanan in 1992

42. Ann Richards D-TX January 20, 1993-January 20, 2001

South vs Southwest; McCain vs Graham

43. John S. McCain R-AZ January 20, 2001-January 20, 2005

The Return of the South; Edwards vs McCain

44. John Edwards D-NC January 20, 2005-January 20, 2009

Scandal After Scandal After Scandal; Edwards vs Sanford

45. Mark Sanford R-SC January 20, 2009-December 17, 2009

46. Charlie Crist R-FL/I-FL December 17, 2009-January 21, 2013

How to Boot Out A Sellout; Huntsman vs Crist vs Warner

47. Jon Huntsman R-UT January 21, 2013-January 20, 2021

Return to Normalcy

48. Cory Booker D-NJ January 20, 2021-January 20, 2029

49. Justin Amash R-MI January 20, 2029-January 20, 2033
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« Reply #1697 on: May 24, 2015, 11:57:35 PM »

44. Barack Obama (D-IL)/Joe Biden (D-DE) - 2009-2017
45. John Kasich (R-OH)/Marco Rubio (R-FL)* - 2017-2023
45. John Kasich (R-OH)/Eric Greitens (R-MO) - 2023-2025
46. Martin Heinrich (D-NM)/Julian Castro (D-TX) - 2025-2033
47. Julian Castro (D-TX)/Ronald Chase (D-PA)* - 2033-2041
48. John "Chev" Hernandez (R-TX)*/Donald Paul (R-IN)* 2041-2049


*Marco Rubio, amid a corruption scandal, resigned the Vice Presidency.
*Ronald Chase, representative of the party's populist wing, is the Senator from Pennsylvania who actively opposed free trade measures pushed by Heinrich administration. Castro wasn't opposed by this faction, but actively they needed it.
*John "Chev" Hernandez, before his Presidency, was the Governor of Texas, Congressman, and Four Star General. He was from the military and establishment wing of the party, supporting supply side economics, big military spending, and immigration reform. Hernandez faced vocal opposition from the grassroots, but proved to be a strong candidate in the general election in 2040.
*Donald Paul, before his Vice Presidency, was a former U.S. Senator from Indiana and the son of Rand Paul. A representative of the grassroots, he stood stalwart against Hernandez on budgets, and immigration. Nevertheless, even more so than his father, he knew to get his message across within the party wings, and agreed to the Hernandez ticket.
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« Reply #1698 on: May 27, 2015, 02:49:35 PM »

Boulangist France + Fashoda incident = Victorian Great War in 1898

Presidents of the United States
25. William McKinley (R-Ohio) 1897-19051
26. Alton B. Parker (D-New York) 1905-13
27. Judson Harmon (D-Ohio) 1913-17
28. John W. Weeks (R-Massachusetts) 1917-262
29. Charles G. Dawes (R-Illinois) 1926-373
30. Henry S. Breckinridge (D-New York) 1937-45
31. Thomas E. Dewey (R-New York) 1945-504
32. Earl Warren (R-California) 1950-535
33. Richard Russell (D-Georgia) 1953-616
34. Nelson Rockefeller (R-New York) 1961-65
35. George Wallace (D-Alabama) 1965-697

Secretary-Generals of the Presidium of the United Socialist States of America
1. James Robertson (Socialist-California) 1969-748

Secretary-Generals of the Presidium of the Federation of American Socialist Republics
1. James Robertson (Socialist Unity-United States) 1974-769
2. Juan Posadas (Revolutionary Workers Party-Argentina) 1976-8110
3. Warren Beatty (Revolutionary Workers Party-United States) 1981-9711

1When the war starts in 1898, McKinley pledges to keep the U.S. out of the conflict, and runs for President on that very platform in 1900, defeating William Jennings Bryan. In 1901, he reverses course following an alleged violation of the Monroe Doctrine by the French, entering the war on the side of the Allies (Great Britain + Imperial Germany + Japan) against the French, Russians, and the Chinese. The war is settled by 1902 as a revolutionary uprising in France dislodges the government there, the Russians settle a separate peace with the British and the Germans, and the collapse of the Chinese government. The rest of McKinley's term is wracked with labor unrest and a Red Scare aimed at the emerging Socialist Party, coinciding with an economic depression that finally puts the Republicans out to pasture in 1904.

2Weeks was elected in the wake of the Great Crash of 1913, and as President he is credited with enacting a wide-ranging series of political and economic reforms, largely on account of the agitation of those most negatively affected by the Great Depression of that period. Also under Weeks, the Second Great War would erupt when neo-Boulangist France invaded Belgium, giving the United Socialist States of Europe (formerly Germany and a good chunk of central Europe, including northern Italy and some former Russian territories to the East) a pretext for intervention. Soon the complex alliance system of Europe yet again put war on the table, with Russia backing the French and the USSE finding an ally in Chen Duxiu's Union of East Asian Socialist Republics (UEASR). The British, for the time being, sat out the war, gleeful at the idea of both of their international rivals going at each other, while the Weeks administration gave tacit support to the French and Russians from afar. Adopting a policy of 'Armed Neutrality', Weeks would nevertheless end up sending U.S. troops into the conflict when the Japanese, allied with the French (but not the Russians) decided to take advantage of the conflict to secure access to raw materials in what Weeks considered the 'U.S. sphere of interest' in the Pacific. Citing a modified Monroe Doctrine (the 'Weeks Doctrine'), Weeks got a declaration of war from Congress in 1925, beginning the official entry of the United States as a third party player into the conflict. He would die a year into his third term in office.

3Dawes would oversee the conclusion of the Pacific War, ending in 1932 with the capitulation of the Japanese following a U.S. invasion of the home islands. Elsewhere, the Second Great War had already come to a close as the USSE and the UEASR, and their many allies among the oppressed sectors of the imperialist nations and the International Brigades, defeated the French and the Russians in 1931, bringing the conflict which had raged since 1923 to a close. The British, who had stayed neutral, payed the price for this, as now the red flag of the International flew from the shores of the Atlantic to the East China Sea, creating the single largest nation on earth, that of the Union of Eurasian Socialist Republics, or UESR. The UESR would waste no time in implementing a vigorous series of five year plans to restore the former belligerent powers to their maximum industrial capacity and make for the future waging of war with the remaining imperialist powers. The United States and the United Kingdom quickly forged an alliance, along with a restored Republic of Japan, to counteract the growth of communism under the Dawes administration.

This alliance would be tested in 1935, when tensions in Spain boiled over into a civil war between the communists in Catalonia and the capitalist backed monarchy in Madrid. The Spanish Civil War, which lasted from 1935 to 1938, ultimately produced a stalemate which lead to the division of Spain between the Kingdom of Spain and the Socialist Council Republic of Catalonia, which was explicitly prevented in the subsequent Treaty of Lisbon from becoming an integral part of the UESR.

4The 'little man on the wedding cake' was gunned down by (supposedly) pro-UESR Puerto Rican nationalists in 1950, operating from Cuba, then under U.S. occupation.

5With the body count rising higher and higher in the Cuban War, Warren was eventually forced not to seek a second term in 1952. The disintegration of the Republican Party between reformists like Warren and hardliners like Senator Bob Taft of Ohio, who would increasingly find their way to the (increasingly) right-wing, racist Democratic Party.

6Russell would be the first Southerner elected President since before the Civil War, and would come into office with a mandate to end the 'anarchy in the streets' being 'egged on' (in his view) by the Socialist Party, trade unionists, radical black activists, and Puerto Rican nationalists. Essentially forced into ending the War in Cuba by events (notably, the refusal of the draftee Army to fight), he was subsequently forced to sign off on a number of policy proposals by the growing left-wing in Congress, much to the disdain of his support base.

7The last President of the United States, Wallace would run on a platform of completely squashing the communist threat. When he actually got around to putting that platform into practice after losing the 1968 Presidential Election to Socialist candidate James Robertson, i.e. moving to arrest the leaders of the Socialist Party and use the military to shut down Appeal to Reason, the Socialist Party's flagship newspaper, in 1969, Socialists in control of New York and Chicago mobilized local divisions of the Sparticist League (the paramilitary arm of the party) to take full control of the key centers of the American population, declaring the United Socialist States of America. The subsequent Second American Civil War, or Third American Revolution resulted in Wallace being deposed and executed and the Third Great War, with the British and Japanese backing White Armies in the US and the UESR backing the Reds.

8Oversaw the successful Third American Revolution from 1969 to 1973, serving as General-Secretary of the USSA. Resigned his post in 1974 when the USSA was subsumed into the Federation of American Socialist Republics (FASR), based in Panama and encompassing most of both continents.

9As head of the FASR, Robertson promoted unity between the FASR and the UESR against the 'common enemy', the conjoined United Kingdom of Great Britain, Ireland, and Japan. The Third Great War inevitably wound down during his tenure however, with both sides hitting a standstill and the signing of a subsequent armistice between the warring powers in 1975.

10The founder of the FASR space program, General-Secretary Posadas saw the first intensive effort to modernize both the existing nuclear program of the FASR and its offworld holdings, culminating in the first permanent settlement crews arriving on 'the Red Planet' in 1979. He also provided a large amount of funding to the possibility of finding extraterrestrial life in the universe, overseeing the broadcast of a radio signal into space with that intent in the late 70s. In an embarrassing oversight for the FASR space program, the garbled message, which was supposed to say 'Hello, we are broadcasting from Earth,' actually was broadcast into space as 'ayy lmao.'

11The longest serving leader of the FASR, Beatty saw the final conflict with the United Kingdom, beginning in 1993 and ending in 1997. With the complete destruction of the capitalist powers, the FASR and UESR stood supreme, and quickly began negotiations for a unified, world socialist government. These negotiations quickly yielded the birth of the International Working People's Association, a throwback to the First International and a nomenclature change reflecting the idea of not a nation-state or a federation of states, but a 'free association of producers'. Commentators called it the 'End of History', but in reality, history was just beginning, as the predatory stage of human development came to a close and a path toward socialist development had been opened up for the whole globe.
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« Reply #1699 on: May 28, 2015, 02:07:42 AM »

37. Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY)/Terry Sanford (D-NC) 1969-1973
38. James R. Hoffa (R-MI)/Theodore Stevens (R-AK) 1973-1975
39. Theodore Stevens (R-AK)/Peter J. Brennan (R-MI) 1975-1981

40. Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)/Paul Tsongas (D-MA) 1981
41. Paul Tsongas (D-MA)/Gary Hart (D-CO) 1981-1985
42. Gary Hart (D-CO)/Charles S. "Chuck" Robb (D-VA) 1985-1993

43. Patrick J. Buchanan (R-VA)/James R. Hoffa Jr. (R-MI) 1993-1997
44. William J. Clinton (D-AR)/Lowell P. Weicker (D-CT) 1997-1999
45. Lowell P. Weicker (D-CT)/Ben Nighthorse Campbell (D-CO) 1999-2001

46. Alfonse D'Amoto (R-NY)/Clinton B. LeSeur (R-MS) 2001-2009
47. Hillary Rodham (D-IL)/Larry Pressler (D-SD) 2009-2017
48. Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV)/Charels Canterbury (R-SC) 2017-Present
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