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« Reply #1800 on: November 15, 2015, 11:10:00 PM »

Presidents
43. Al Gore (D-TN) - 2001-2009
44. Jim Webb (R-VA) - 2009-2017
45. Mitt Romney (R-MA) - 2017-2021
46. Julian Castro (D-TX) - 2021-2029
47. Elise Stefanik (R-NY) - 2029-2033
48. Chelsea Clinton (D-PA) - 2033-2041

VP's
46. Bob Graham (D-FL) - 2001-2009
47. Mitt Romney (R-MA) - 2009-2017
48. Scott Walker (R-WI) - 2017-2019
49. Tom Ridge (R-PA) - 2020-2021
50. Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 2021-2029
51. George P. Bush (R-TX) - 2029-2033
52. Seth Moulton (D-MA) - 2033-2041

Losing Candidates
2000 - George W. Bush (R-TX)/J.C. Watts (R-OK)
2004 - John McCain (R-AZ)/Tom Ridge (R-PA)
2008 - Bob Graham (D-FL)/Barack Obama (D-IL)
2012 - Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Brad Miller (D-NC)
2016 - Bernie Sanders (D-VT)/Keith Ellison (D-MN)
2020 - Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Elise Stefanik (R-NY)
2024 - Ted Cruz (R-TX)/Marco Rubio (R-FL)
2028 - Gavin Newsom (D-CA)/John Carney (D-DE)
2032 - Elise Stefanik (R-NY)/George P. Bush (R-TX)
2036 - Elise Stefanik (R-NY)/Stewart Mills (R-MN)
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« Reply #1801 on: November 24, 2015, 05:26:16 PM »

Donald Trump / Chris Christie 2017-20251
Chris Christie / Carlos Lopez-Cantera 2025-20293

Gina Raimondo / Stefany Shaheen 2029-20374
Ivanka Trump / Ben Sasse 2037-20456


Failed tickets:
2016: Hillary Clinton / Amy Klobuchar
2020: Amy Klobuchar / Kamala Harris2
2024: Tammy Duckworth / Chris Coons

2028: Chris Christie / Carlos Lopez-Cantera
         Ivanka Trump / Matt Bevin
2032: Paul Ryan / Ted Cruz5
2036: Stefany Shaheen / Baron Trump

1 The charismatic, unconventional candidate picks an experienced moderate to balance the ticket, and they exploit the economic malaise and foreign policy crises to obtain a larger than expected victory over the uninspired Democratic ticket
2 Ethical problems surrounding ethnic freshman Senator Harris combined with a recovery ensure another catastrophic defeat for the Democratic ticket, winning only DC and Minnesota, a state that never responded warmly toward the often confrontational Trump.
3 Christie strongly embraced Trump's policies to win a primary challenge from business-friendly Speaker Paul Ryan, then won another decisive victory over the underwhelming Tammy Duckworth.
4 Christie's perceived betrayal of Trump's policies leads to the former President's daughter running a third-party candidacy, which combined with the strong centrist appeal of the Democratic ticket and a gaffe-prone Vice-President leads to the Democratic recapture of the White House.
5 The Republican ticket after the disastrous 2028 election sought to mend the rift between the two factions by nominating a figure from each wing of the party. However, a series of unforced errors by the Ryan campaign leads to a narrow reelection victory for President Raimondo.
6 In the wake of racial strife and the breakout of major conflict in the Pacific, the nation turns to the daughter of a former President to restore normalcy and a humble foreign policy.
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« Reply #1802 on: November 24, 2015, 07:04:01 PM »

Eobard Thawne Changes Time Again, or I'm Watching Arrowverse TV Shows Too Much.

Unlike in Flash, Eobard Thawne ends up in 1990. He still kills Nora Allen, though Barry is already born and Joe West is blamed for Nora's murder rather than Henry Allen. Thawne not only takes Dr. Harrison Wells' identity, he runs for office as Wells in addition to being a scientist. Time otherwise goes undisturbed, though "Wells" becomes a Perot supporter in 1992, getting personally involved in the billionaire's campaign. Though Clinton still wins by the same margin, history soon diverts by 1996 as political changes happen too. Wells continues to make public political comments in this altered reality, but he focuses on solely scientific pursuits until 2006, when he is elected Mayor of Central City. He later runs for President as a Perot-styled Independent...

42. William Jefferson Clinton (D - AR)/Albert Gore, Jr. (D - TN): 1993 - 1997
43. H. Norman Schwarzkopf, Jr. (R - NJ)/Thomas Joseph Ridge (R - PA): 1997 - 2002 (1)
44. Thomas Joseph Ridge (R - PA)/Joe Wilson (R - SC): 2002 - 2009 (2)
45. Rod Blagoevich (D - IL)/Gary Locke (D - WA): 2009 - 2010 (3)
46. Gary Locke (D - WA)/Mike Michaud (D - ME): 2010-2013 (4)
47. Harrison Wells (I - MO)/Jesse Ventura (I - MN): 2013 - Present (5)

Scientific research has unsurprisingly been a top priority under the Wells Presidency. Shortly before the 2016 election year began, it was announced that the Particle Accelerator would be ready on December 2015 rather than in December of 2020. Increased federal funding has been a pivotal key in speeding up this revolutionary innovation. President Wells and Vice President Ventura will visit Wells' native Central City to view the Accelerator going online.

OOC Notes:

1. President Schwarzkopf mysteriously died in his sleep months after UFOs nearly crashed into and destroyed Gotham City, NYC, and the Pentagon. The FBI and Secret Service have never been able to pinpoint the cause of his death.
2. Vice President Ridge succeeded the deceased President Schwarzkopf. He chose Congressman Joe Wilson to become his VP.
3. After a year-long investigation, President Blagoevich was found guilty of conspiracy in voter fraud and intimidation in key swing states. He was impeached and convicted quickly afterwards.
4. Vice President Locke, who was found to be not involved in any crimes, succeeded President Blagoevich. He chose Congressman Mike Michaud to become the new VP.
5. I have no idea where Central City is supposed to be in the Arrowverse, but in DC Comics proper, it is currently in Missouri. Hence why I have Wells as hailing from Missouri.
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« Reply #1803 on: November 25, 2015, 02:18:39 PM »

1993-2001: Ross Perot (I)
2002-2005: Steve Forbes (R)
2005-2013: Wesley Clark (D)
2013-2021: Mike Huckabee (R)
2021-2025 Andrew Cuomo (D)
2025-2035: Cory Booker (D)
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« Reply #1804 on: November 25, 2015, 03:30:55 PM »

Hamilton's Blunder
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Alexander Hamilton decides to sit out the 1788 presidential election, trusting the new Electoral College to choose the correct candidate (General George Washington) without his help. Instead, the absence of Hamilton's intrigue allows New York Governor George Clinton to win a narrow victory over Washington as consequence of the two-vote rule established under the Constitution.

Results of the 1788-89 Presidential Election
George Clinton (NY): 50 Electoral Votes
George Washington (VA): 49 Electoral Votes
John Adams (MA): 27 Electoral Votes
Others (Var): 38 Electoral Votes

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
1. George Clinton (Anti-Federalist, Republican) 1789-1793
2. John Adams (Federalist) 1793-1797
3. Thomas Jefferson (Republican) 1797-1801
4. Alexander Hamilton (Federalist) 1801-1809
5. Charles C. Pinckney (Federalist) 1809-1817
6. John Marshall (Federalist) 1817-1825
7. Henry Clay (Federalist, Whig) 1825-1833
8. Martin Van Buren (Whig) 1833-1841
9. Daniel Webster (National) 1841-1845
10. John McLean (Whig) 1845-1849
11. Charles F. Adams (Whig) 1849-1857
12. Winfield Scott (Whig) 1857-1861
13. William H. Seward (Federal) 1861-1865
14. Oliver P. Morton (Federal) 1865-1869
15. Schuyler Colfax (Whig) 1869-1873
16. James G. Blaine (Federal) 1873-1881
17. Chester A. Arthur (Federal) 1881-1883*
18. Mark Hana (Federal) 1883-1885
18. Theodore Roosevelt, Sr. (Whig) 1885-1889
19. James B. Weaver (Whig) 1889-1897
20. George F. Edmunds (Federal) 1897-1901
21. Ida Tarbell (Whig/Liberal) 1901-1909
22. Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. (Liberal) 1909-1921*
23. William H. Taft (Liberal) 1921-1925
24. Charles E. Hughes (Federal) 1925-1933
25. Huey P. Long (Liberal) 1933-1936*
26. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Liberal) 1936-1937
27. Herbert Hoover (Federal) 1937-1949
28. Eleanor Roosevelt (Liberal) 1949-1957
29. John F. Kennedy (Federal) 1957-1965
30. Margaret Chase Smith (Federal) 1965-1969
31. Richard Nixon (Liberal) 1969-1973
32. Robert F. Kennedy (Federal) 1973-1977
33. Sam Nunn (Liberal) 1977-1985
34. George H. W. Bush (Federal) 1985-1993
35. Elizabeth Dole (Federal) 1993-1997
36. Jerry Brown (Liberal) 1997-2005
37. John E. Bush (Federal) 2005-2009
38. Andrew Cuomo (Liberal) 2009-present

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« Reply #1805 on: November 26, 2015, 09:28:50 PM »

Basically put, Republicans tack to the "left" on immigration and whatnot while solidifying a reputation as tax cutters, free traders, and whatnot. This results in the parties not being substantially different, policy-wise, but with substantially shifted public personas.

40. David H. Koch (Republican-Kansas)/George H.W. Bush (Republican-Texas) 1981-1989
41. Walter Mondale (Democrat-Minnesota)/William J. "Bill" Clinton (D-AR) 1989-1997
42. John S. McCain III (Republican-Arizona)/John Ellis Bush (Republican-Florida) 1997-2005
43. John Ellis Bush (Republican-Florida)/Willard "Mitt" Romney (Republican-Massachusetts) 2005-2009

44. Donald J. Trump (Democrat-New York)/James H. "Jim" Webb Jr. (Democrat-Virginia) 2009-2017

The 2016 race is shaping up between Vice President Jim Webb (D-VA)/Former Governor Brian Schweitzer (D-MT) and Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)/Former Senator Joseph I. "Joe" Lieberman (R-CT). To win their respective primaries, Webb fended off challenges from Senator and former Second Lady Hillary Clinton (D-AR), Governor Barack Obama (D-IL), Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT), and former Secretary of Defense Zell Miller (D-GA); Senator Rubio, meanwhile, faced former Governor George W. Bush (R-TX), Senator Scott Brown (R-MA), Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), and former Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice (R-CA).

2008

Businessman Donald J. "The Donald" Trump (Democrat-New York)/Senator James H. "Jim" Webb, Jr. (Democrat-Virginia) 346 electoral votes
President John Ellis "Jeb" Bush (Republican-Florida)/Vice President Willard M. "Mitt" Romney (Republican-Massachusetts) 192 electoral votes
Former Senator Lincoln Chafee (I-RI)/Former Senator Maurice "Mike" Gravel (I-AK) 0 electoral votes

2012

President Donald J. Trump (Democrat-New York)/Vice President James H. "Jim" Webb, Jr. (Democrat-Virginia) 378 electoral votes
Former Vice President Willard H. "Mitt" Romney (Republican-Massachusetts)/Senator Lindsey Graham (Republican-South Carolina) 160 electoral votes
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« Reply #1806 on: December 03, 2015, 07:28:01 PM »
« Edited: December 05, 2015, 01:19:46 AM by Kingpoleon »


Blue: The United Empire of Louistierra and Platz Grafen(German with a slight Spanish accent west of the MS and a small French lilt in LA, AR, & TX)*
Green: The Kingdoms of the Pacific(An Anglified and simplified version of Japanese with a bit of Native Pacific Islanders for a few verbs)
Red: The Republic of the Pétra ton Oréon(Frenchified English with very mountainous regions having large traces of Yiddish and Greek)**
Yellow: The Atlantische Imperium(Dutch with Yiddish being popular in New York City and Portuguese having an effect in Florida and Coastal Southern Georgia)***

*Louisiana and Ohio; Louis's Land & The Count's Place
**Stones of the Mountains: Alternate name for the Rockies
***Atlantic Empire
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« Reply #1807 on: December 04, 2015, 03:05:10 AM »


Alternate Israeli Prime Ministers:
1st Prime Minister: David Ben-Gurion, Mapai/Rafi: 1949-1959 * Retires; Joins Rafi
2nd Prime Minister: Moshe Dayan, Rafi: 1959-1963 * Loses
3rd Prime Minister: Haim Moshe-Shapira, National Religious Party: 1963-1969 * Loses
4th Prime Minister: Golda Meir, Alignment/Rafi: 1969-1974 * Resigns
5th Prime Minister: Shimon Peres, Alignment/Mapai: 1974-1975 * Loses
6th Prime Minister: Menachem Begin, Herut: 1975-1984 * Resigns
7th Prime Minister: Yitzhak Shamir, Herut: 1984-1988 * Loses
8th Prime Minister: Shimon Peres, Mapai: 1988-1990 * Loses
9th Prime Minister: Moshe Arens, Herut: 1990-1993 * Loses
10th Prime Minister: Yitzhak Rabin, Rafi: 1993-1998 * Retires
11th Prime Minister: Benjamin Netanyahu, Herut: 1998-2006 * Retires
12th Prime Minister: Ehud Barak, Rafi: 2006-2009 * Loses
13th Prime Minister: Benny Begin, Herut: 2009-2012 * Retires
14th Prime Minister: Yair Lapid, Shinui: 2012-2015 * Loses
15th Prime Minister: Limor Livnat, Herut: 2015-Current

Best to Worst PM Performance:
1. David Ben-Gurion
2. Menachem Begin
3. Yitzhak Rabin
4. Haim Moshe-Shapira
5. Benjamin Netanyahu
6. Golda Meir
7. Yitzhak Shamir
8. Moshe Dayan
9. Benny Begin
10. Moshe Arens
11. Ehud Barak
12. Yair Lapid
13/14. Shimon Peres

Livnat not ranked.

1. Ben-Gurion leaves Mapai over electoral reform issues, just like in real life, but in this scenario his exit helps fellow Mapai-defector Moshe Dayan ascend to the Premiership
2. Alignment between Mapai, Mapam and Rafi is formed in 1968, after years in opposition or minor roles in government w/ NRP.
3. Alignment starts crumbling after the Yom Kippur War (Ben Gurion calls for Rafi to pull away months before his death in 1973; calls for separation are renewed after the war in 1974 by hawkish members such as Moshe Dayan)
4. Golda Meir's resignation intensifies rivalry between Rafi and Mapai factions of Alignment. Shimon Peres takes over and moves toward a dovish foreign policy. Rafi officially breaks away on November 25th 1974. Golda Meir, Moshe Dayan, Amos Ben-Gurion (son of David) and Yitzhak Navon all become prominent supporters of Rafi. Shimon Peres and most of his cabinet identify with Mapai.
5. Rafi-Mapai schism allows for Herut, the right-wing party, to take over. Herut rules from 1974-1988
6. Mapai takes over in 1988 only to get obliterated in 1990. Going from 26 seats to 2 seats. Mapai folds in 1991 and Shimon Peres and his former party members join Rafi. Peres' career is over, essentially.
7. Yitzhak Rabin and Rafi elected in 1993. Peace Process occurs as in real life, but later in time. Rabin survives assassination attempt. Peace movement continues, but ultimately fails as Yasser Arafat proves he does not want peace. Rabin retires in 1998 as a well-respected figure, but with sagging numbers in the face of renewed Palestinian attacks on Israel.
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« Reply #1808 on: December 04, 2015, 12:23:13 PM »
« Edited: December 16, 2015, 03:19:41 PM by Solidarity Forever »

So here's this thread! I've been hashing out some ideas for a TL, what do y'all think?

Presidents of the United States of America
1. George Washington (Independent-VA): March 4, 1789-March 4, 1797
2. John Adams (Federalist-MA): March 4, 1797-March 4, 1801
3. Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican-VA): March 4, 1801-March 4, 1809
4. James Madison (DR-VA): March 4, 1809-March 4, 1813
5. DeWitt Clinton (DR/
National-NY): March 4, 1813-March 4, 1821
6. John C. Calhoun (N-SC): March 4, 1821-March 4, 1825

7. Andrew Jackson (Democratic-TN): March 4, 1825-March 4, 1833
8. Martin Van Buren (D-NY): March 4, 1833-March 4, 1841

9. Henry Clay (N-KY): March 4, 1841-March 4, 1845
10. James K. Polk (D-TN): March 4, 1845-March 4, 1849
11. James Buchanan (D-PA): March 4, 1849-March 4, 1857
12. John C. Breckinridge (D-KY): March 4, 1857
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13. Jefferson Davis (D-MS): March 4, 1857-March 4, 1861
14. George H. Pendleton (Peace Democratic-OH): March 4, 1861-March 4, 1865
15. Wade Hampton III (D-SC): March 4, 1865-March 4, 1873
16. Robert Toombs (Redeemer-GA): March 4, 1873-March 4, 1877
17. William Allen (D-OH): March 4, 1877-July 11, 1879
18. Thomas A. Hendricks (D-KY): July 11, 1879-March 4, 1881

19. Thomas F. Bayard (R-DE): March 4, 1881-March 4, 1889
20. Joseph E. Brown (R-GA): March 4. 1889-March 4, 1893
21. Thomas F. Bayard (R-DE): March 4, 1893-March 4, 1897

22. Thomas E. Watson (Populist-GA): March 4, 1897-September 14, 1901**
23. John Sharp Williams (P-MS): September 14, 1901-March 4, 1905
24. James K. Vardaman (D-MS): March 4, 1905-October 19, 1910***
25. Coleman Livingston Blease (D-SC): October 19, 1910-February 2, 1911
26. William H. Taft (I-OH): February 2, 1911-March 4, 1913****
27. Booker T. Washington (P-AL): March 4, 1913-November 14, 1915


*Assassinated after the first sentence of his inaugural address: "My fellow citizens, today I address you as the President of these United States." President Davis and Justice Taney rushed up to him (rather unwisely, as the gunman was still in the crowd) and, quickly realizing that he would not survive, administered the oath right then and there. Davis's address (he gave a more official speech later, which is the one in all the history books) was the shortest of any President's, at just four sentences: "Please do not be alarmed. I shall carry out the duties of the office of President, the office God has thrust upon me. I will execute the will of the people of the United States. Thank you, and may God keep us safe."

**Assassinated over his support for civil rights after his Populist party, which came to power in 1896 after slowly building influence among poor farmers (many hurt by the international sanctions) and the few free blacks there were, attempted to move for small-scale manumission of slaves. Under Watson and his successor, John Sharp Williams, violence both by against slaves and liberal whites rose to a fever pitch until war broke out in 1904.

***Assassinated (seeing a theme?) during the bloodiest months of the war, late 1910, by a black rebel. his successor, Coleman Livingston Blease, met the same fate five months later.

****Speaker Taft, widely seen as a moderate and a calming force, finally took the reigns after "the seven longest years in our nation's history," promising an end to the war and peace between blacks and whites. With broad support across party lines, he was able to secure freedom and limited civil rights, including the vote, for the ex-slaves and some monetary compensation for their lost property. He was and is widely hailed as one of history's great statesmen and reformers.

Presidents of the Republic of New England
1. Caleb Strong (F-MA): February 4, 1813-February 4, 1819
2. John Quincy Adams (F-MA): February 4, 1819-February 4, 1825
3. Levi Lincoln (F-MA): February 4, 1825-February 4, 1831

4. William A. Palmer (Anti-Masonic-VT): February 4, 1831-February 4, 1837
5. Daniel Webster (F-MA): February 4, 1837-February 4, 1843
6. Thomas Wilson Dorr (People's-RI): February 4, 1843-February 4, 1849*
7. Edward Everett (F-MA): February 4, 1849-February 4, 1855
8. John P. Hale (F-NH): February 4, 1855-February 4, 1861
9. Henry Wilson (P-MA): February 4, 1861-February 4, 1867
10. Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain (I-ME): February 4, 1867-February 4, 1873
11. Roscoe Conkling (N/Republican-NY): February 4, 1873-February 4, 1879**
12. Charles Francis Adams (Liberal-MA): February 4, 1879-February 4, 1885
13. James G. Blaine (L-ME): February 4, 1885-February 4, 1891

14. George F. Edmunds (R-VT): February 4, 1891-February 4, 1897
15. Thomas Brackett Reed (R-ME): February 4, 1897-December 7, 1902
16. some colorful character: December 7, 1902-February 4, 1903
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17. George F. Hoar (L-MA): February 4, 1903-September 30, 1904
18. super progressive reformy dude: September 30, 1904-January 4, 1909

19. Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY): January 4, 1909-January 4, 1915
20. Charles Evans Hughes (R-NY): January 4, 1915-January 4, 1921

21. William C. Sproul (L-PA): January 4, 1921-January 4, 1927
22. Calvin Coolidge (R-MA): January 4, 1927-January 4, 1933
23. Franklin D. Roosevelt (L-NY): January 4, 1933-January 4, 1939
24. Styles Bridges (R-NH): January 4, 1939-January 4, 1945
25. Thomas E. Dewey (R-NY): January 4, 1945-January 4, 1951
26. Douglas MacArthur (R-MA): January 4, 1951-January 4, 1957
27. Henry Cabot Lodge (R-MA): January 4, 1957-January 4, 1963

28. John F. Kennedy (L-MA): January 4, 1963-November 22, 1963
29. Abraham A. Ribicoff (L-CT): November 22, 1963-January 4, 1969
30. Edmund S. Muskie (L-ME): January 4, 1969-January 4, 1975

31. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY): January 4, 1975-January 4, 1981
32. Edward M. Kennedy (L-MA): January 4, 1981-January 4, 1987
33. Michael Dukakis (L-MA): January 4, 1987-January 4, 1993
34. Mario Cuomo (L-NY): January 4, 1993-January 4, 1999
35. Joseph I. Lieberman (L-CT): January 4, 1999-January 4, 2005
36. John Kerry (L-MA): January 4, 2005-January 4, 2011
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37. Howard Dean (Progressive-VT): January 4, 2011-present

*There were significant disputes about the 1842 election, especially since it occurred during the Common Rebellion, so Dorr and his opponent, Roger Sherman Baldwin, both swore themselves in on February 4. The Supreme Court ruled 3-2 that Rhode Island's Freemen's Constitution, enacted earlier in 1842, applied to that election and that the votes of non-property owners counted, officially electing Dorr. This was not settled until March, however.

**The first President since William A. Palmer not from either the Federalist or People's Party, Conkling was an old National machine man from the Union. Vice President George McClellan had been elected the previous time on the so-called "Victory Ticket" along with former Federalist Joshua Chamberlain, so the parties were naturally already close, and in 1872 Conkling and Gov. William B. Washburn (chosen to assuage the Eastern Federalists' fears of a Western, New York-based takeover of the political system) won on another unity ticket. The two parties later merged into the new Republican Party.

***Not only did President Reed's death present a conundrum for the New England government, having never faced a succession crisis like this before, it was magnified by the death of Vice President Garret Hobart three years earlier. With Speaker [some dude] quickly assuming the powers of the Presidency as an immediate lame duck, many were quick to call him "His Fraudulency" or "The 17.5th President of the Republic of New England," but he was able to solidify power with the Succession Act, naming the line of succession as President, VP, Speaker, President pro tempore of the Senate, and then the cabinet. A constitutional amendment soon passed shortened the lame duck period by a month, causing the President to be inaugurated on January 4.

****The bitter election of 2004, fought mainly over President Lieberman's invasion of Iraq, was the first one in the nation's history to be decided by the House of Representatives. Neither pro-war Republican Colin Powell, anti-war Howard Dean (running on the new Progressive Party), nor moderate, but cautiously pro-war Liberal John Kerry was able to capture a majority of the vote, with Powell eking out a surprise plurality, so it was sent to the Liberal-controlled House, which, Powell's endorsement of Kerry, elected the Massachusetts senator. Most historians would look back on this crucial moment as the death knell of the Republican Party and the beginning of the Fifth Party System.

Emperors of Louisiana
1. Aaron/Aarón: May 17, 1809-September 14, 1836
2. Luisa (Louisa): September 14, 1836-1878
3. Juan (John): 1878-1904
4. Huh
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« Reply #1809 on: December 04, 2015, 01:39:39 PM »

Going in line with my Alternate PMs above:

Alternate Presidents of Israel:
1st President: Chaim Weizmann, Independent/General Zionists: 1949-1952 * Dies
2nd President: Albert Einstein, Independent/Mapai: 1952-1955 * Dies
3rd President: Moshe Sharrett, Mapai: 1955-1962 * Term-Limited
4th President: Zalman Shazar, Rafi: 1962-1969 * Term-Limited
5th President: Yitzhak Ben Aharon, Alignment/Rafi: 1969-1976 * Term-Limited
6th President: Yosef Burg, National Religious Party: 1976-1983 * Term-Limited
7th President: Yitzhak Navon, Rafi: 1983-1990 * Term-Limited
8th President: David Levy, Herut: 1990-1997 * Term-Limited
9th President: Uzi Landau, Herut: 1997-2004 * Term-Limited
10th President: Tommy Lapid, Shinui: 2004-2008 * Dies
11th President: Amir Peretz, Rafi: 2008-2015 * Term-Limited
12th President: Silvan Shalom, Herut: 2015-Current
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« Reply #1810 on: December 06, 2015, 01:55:50 AM »
« Edited: December 06, 2015, 04:11:58 AM by Maxwell »

Cuomo, the Legacy Family
41. Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Bill Clinton (D-AR) - 1989-1993
42. H. Ross Perot (R-TX)/Bill Armstrong (R-CO) - 1993-1997
43. Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Al Gore (D-TN) - 1997-2001
44. Bill Clinton (D-AR)/John Kerry (D-MA) - 2001-2009
45. Mike Pence (R-IN)/John McCain (R-AZ) - 2009-2017
46. Andrew Cuomo (D-NY)/Julian Castro (D-TX) - 2017-Present

Losing Tickets
1988: Vice President George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Senator Dan Quayle (R-IN)
1992: President Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Vice President Bill Clinton (D-AR)
1996: President H. Ross Perot (R-TX)/Vice President Bill Armstrong (R-CO)
2000: Former President H. Ross Perot (R-TX)/Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL)
2004: Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX)
2008: Vice President John Kerry (D-MA)/Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)
2012: Governor Andrew Cuomo (D-NY)/Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI)
2016: Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY)/Senator H. Ross Perot Jr. (R-TX)
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« Reply #1811 on: December 15, 2015, 02:46:01 AM »


Alternate Israeli Prime Ministers:
1st Prime Minister: David Ben-Gurion, Mapai/Rafi: 1949-1959 * Retires; Joins Rafi
2nd Prime Minister: Moshe Dayan, Rafi: 1959-1963 * Loses
3rd Prime Minister: Haim Moshe-Shapira, National Religious Party: 1963-1969 * Loses
4th Prime Minister: Golda Meir, Alignment/Rafi: 1969-1974 * Resigns
5th Prime Minister: Shimon Peres, Alignment/Mapai: 1974-1975 * Loses
6th Prime Minister: Menachem Begin, Herut: 1975-1984 * Resigns
7th Prime Minister: Yitzhak Shamir, Herut: 1984-1988 * Loses
8th Prime Minister: Shimon Peres, Mapai: 1988-1990 * Loses
9th Prime Minister: Moshe Arens, Herut: 1990-1993 * Loses
10th Prime Minister: Yitzhak Rabin, Rafi: 1993-1998 * Retires
11th Prime Minister: Benjamin Netanyahu, Herut: 1998-2006 * Retires
12th Prime Minister: Ehud Barak, Rafi: 2006-2009 * Loses
13th Prime Minister: Benny Begin, Herut: 2009-2012 * Retires
14th Prime Minister: Yair Lapid, Shinui: 2012-2015 * Loses
15th Prime Minister: Limor Livnat, Herut: 2015-Current

Best to Worst PM Performance:
1. David Ben-Gurion
2. Menachem Begin
3. Yitzhak Rabin
4. Haim Moshe-Shapira
5. Benjamin Netanyahu
6. Golda Meir
7. Yitzhak Shamir
8. Moshe Dayan
9. Benny Begin
10. Moshe Arens
11. Ehud Barak
12. Yair Lapid
13/14. Shimon Peres

Livnat not ranked.

1. Ben-Gurion leaves Mapai over electoral reform issues, just like in real life, but in this scenario his exit helps fellow Mapai-defector Moshe Dayan ascend to the Premiership
2. Alignment between Mapai, Mapam and Rafi is formed in 1968, after years in opposition or minor roles in government w/ NRP.
3. Alignment starts crumbling after the Yom Kippur War (Ben Gurion calls for Rafi to pull away months before his death in 1973; calls for separation are renewed after the war in 1974 by hawkish members such as Moshe Dayan)
4. Golda Meir's resignation intensifies rivalry between Rafi and Mapai factions of Alignment. Shimon Peres takes over and moves toward a dovish foreign policy. Rafi officially breaks away on November 25th 1974. Golda Meir, Moshe Dayan, Amos Ben-Gurion (son of David) and Yitzhak Navon all become prominent supporters of Rafi. Shimon Peres and most of his cabinet identify with Mapai.
5. Rafi-Mapai schism allows for Herut, the right-wing party, to take over. Herut rules from 1974-1988
6. Mapai takes over in 1988 only to get obliterated in 1990. Going from 26 seats to 2 seats. Mapai folds in 1991 and Shimon Peres and his former party members join Rafi. Peres' career is over, essentially.
7. Yitzhak Rabin and Rafi elected in 1993. Peace Process occurs as in real life, but later in time. Rabin survives assassination attempt. Peace movement continues, but ultimately fails as Yasser Arafat proves he does not want peace. Rabin retires in 1998 as a well-respected figure, but with sagging numbers in the face of renewed Palestinian attacks on Israel.

Edited List:

1st Prime Minister: David Ben-Gurion, Mapai/Rafi: 1949-1959 * Retires; Joins Rafi
2nd Prime Minister: Moshe Dayan, Rafi: 1959-1963 * Loses
3rd Prime Minister: Haim Moshe-Shapira, National Religious Party: 1963-1969 * Loses
4th Prime Minister: Golda Meir, Alignment/Rafi: 1969-1974 * Resigns
5th Prime Minister: Shimon Peres, Alignment/Mapai: 1974-1975 * Loses
6th Prime Minister: Menachem Begin, Herut: 1975-1984 * Resigns
7th Prime Minister: Yitzhak Shamir, Herut: 1984-1988 * Loses
8th Prime Minister: Shimon Peres, Mapai: 1988-1989 * Loses
9th Prime Minister: Benny Begin, Herut: 1989-1992 * Loses
10th Prime Minister: Yitzhak Rabin, Rafi: 1992-1997 * Retires
11th Prime Minister: Moshe Arens, Herut: 1997-2000 * Retires
12th Prime Minister: Benjamin Netanyahu, Herut: 2000-2006 * Retires
13th Prime Minister: Ehud Barak, Rafi: 2006-2010 * Loses
14th Prime Minister: Natan Sharansky, Herut: 2010-2014 * Retires
15th Prime Minister: Yair Lapid, Shinui: 2014-2016 * Loses
16th Prime Minister: Itzhak Herzog, Rafi: 2016-2024 * Retires
17th Prime Minister: Gila Gamliel, Herut: 2024-2031 * Retires
18th Prime Minister: Ze'ev Elkin, Herut: 2031-Current
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« Reply #1812 on: December 16, 2015, 09:30:27 PM »

1. George Washington [Independent] 1789-1797
2. Thomas Jefferson [Republican] 1797-1801
3. John Jay [Federalist] 1801-1809
4. Charles C. Pinckney [Federalist] 1809-1813

5. DeWitt Clinton [Republican] 1813-1821
6. William H. Crawford [Republican] 1821-18241
7. Daniel D. Tompkins [Republican] 1824-1825
8. John Q. Adams [National Republican] 1825-1833
9. Martin Van Buren [Democratic Republican] 1833-1837
10. Henry Clay [National Republican] 1841-1845
11. John Tyler [Democratic Republican] 1845-1849
12. Zachary Taylor [Democratic Republican] 1849-1853

13. John Bell [National Republican] 1853-1857
14. Stephen Douglas [Democratic Republican] 1857-18611
15. John Breckinridge [Democratic Republican] 1861-1865
16. Charles Sumner [Liberty] 1865-1873
17. Abraham Lincoln [Liberty] 1873-1881
18. James G. Blaine [Liberty/American] 1881-1885
19. Samuel J. Tilden [Democratic Republican] 1885
20. Thomas A. Hendricks [Democratic Republican] 1885-1889

20. James Garfield [American] 1889-1897
21. Thomas B. Reed [American] 1897-1901
22. William J. Bryan [Fusion] 1901-1905
23. Theodore Roosevelt [American] 1905-1909
24. William J. Bryan [Farmer Labor] 1909-1913
25. Theodore Roosevelt [American] 1913-1921
26. John J. Pershing [American] 1921-1929
27. Alfred E. Smith [American] 1929-1933
28. Herbert Hoover [Farmer Labor] 1933-1941
29. Franklin D. Roosevelt [Farmer Labor] 1941-1949
30. Earl Warren [American] 1949-1953
31. Adlai E. Stevenson [Farmer Labor] 1953-1957
32. John W. Bricker [American] 1957-1965
33. Ronald Reagan [Farmer Labor] 1965-1973
34. Spiro T. Agnew [American] 1973-1975
35. Richard M. Nixon [American] 1975-1977
36. Frank Church [Farmer Labor] 1977-1981
37. Richard M. Nixon [American] 1981-1985
38. John B. Anderson [American] 1985-1989
39. Birch Bayh [Farmer Labor] 1989-1997
40. William J. Clinton [Farmer Labor] 1997-2005
41. Hillary D. Rodham [American] 2005-2009
42. Evan Bayh [Farmer Labor] 2009-present


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« Reply #1813 on: December 16, 2015, 10:02:17 PM »

I've held this around for a long time.
ITTL: All assassination attempts on Presidents, for one reason or another, work.
Did not hold office in OTL, Did hold office, but not at the same time, Elected (not including those who ascended and were then re-elected), Died in office (assassination or otherwise). It doesn't get too wild until 1972-1975, then not again until 1994. Agnew (same reason as he did OTL) and Cheney (Hunting became bigger deal) resign in 1973 and 2006, respectively. Independent became Lime Green, Whig became Navy.
1. George Washington (I-VA) (1732-1799) (1789-1797)
2. John Adams (F-MA) (1735-1826) (1797-1801)
3. Thomas Jefferson (DR-VA) (1743-1826) (1801-1809)
4. James Madison (DR-VA) (1751-1836) (1809-1817)
5. James Monroe (DR-VA) (1758-1831) (1817-1825)
6. John Q. Adams (DR-MA) (1767-1848) (1825-1829)

7. Andrew Jackson (D-TN) (1767-1835) (1829-1835)
8. Martin van Buren (D-NY) (1782-1862) (1835-1841)

9. William Henry Harrison (W-OH) (1773-1841) (1841)
10. John Tyler (W-VA) (1790-1862) (1841-1845)

11. James K. Polk (D-TN) (1795-1849) (1845-1849)
12. Zachary Taylor (W-LA) (1784-1850) (1849-1850)[/u]
13. Millard Fillmore (W-NY) (1800-1874) (1850-1853)

14. Franklin Pierce (D-NH) (1804-1869) (1853-1857)
15. James Buchanan (D-PA) (1791-1868) (1857-1861)

16. Abraham Lincoln (R-IL) (1809-1865) (1861-1865)[/u]
17. Andrew Johnson (D-TN) (1808-1875) (1865-1869)
18. Ulysses S. Grant (R-IL) (1822-1885) (1869-1877)
19. Rutherford B. Hayes (R-OH) (1822-1893) (1877-1881)
20. James A. Garfield (R-OH) (1831-1881) (1881)

21. Chester A. Arthur (R-NY) (1829-1886) (1881-1885)

22. Grover Cleveland (D-NY) (1837-1908) (1885-1889, 1893-1897)[/u]
23. Benjamin Harrison (R-IN) (1833-1901) (1889-1893)[/u]
24. Grover Cleveland (D-NY) (1837-1908) (1885-1889, 1893-1897)[/u]
25. William McKinley (R-OH) (1843-1901) (1897-1901)
26. Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY) (1858-1912) (1901-1909)
27. William Howard Taft (R-OH) (1857-1909) (1909)
28. James S. Sherman (R-NY) (1855-1912) (1909-1912)

29. Augustus O. Bacon (D-GA) (1839-1914) (1912-1913)
30. Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ) (1856-1924) (1913-1921)

31. Warren G. Harding (R-OH) (1865-1923) (1921-1923)[/u]
32. Calvin Coolidge (R-MA) (1872-1933) (1923-1929)
33. Charles Curtis (R-KS) (1860-1936) (1929-1933)

34. John N. Garner (D-TX) (1868-1967) (1933-1941)
35. James Farley (D-NY) (1888-1947) (1941-1947)[/b]
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36. Harry S. Truman (D-MO) (1884-1950) (1947-1950)
37. Alben W. Barkley (D-KY) (1877-1956) (1950-1953)

38. Dwight D. Eisenhower (R-NY) (1890-1969) (1953-1961)
39. John F. Kennedy (D-MA) (1917-1963) (1961-1963)[/u]
40. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX) (1908-1973) (1963-1969)

41. Richard Nixon (R-CA) (1913-1972) (1969-1972)
42. Spiro Agnew (R-MD) (1918-1996) (1972-1973)
43. Bob Dole (R-KS) (1923-1974) (1973-1974)
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44. Gerald Ford (R-MI) (1913-1975) (1974-1975)[/s]
45. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) (1908-1975) (1975)

46. Carl Albert (D-OK) (1908-1979) (1975-1979)
47. Walter Mondale (D-MN) (1928-) (1979-1981)[/b]

48. Ronald Reagan (R-CA) (1911-1981) (1981)
49. George H. W. Bush (R-TX) (1924-) (1981-1989)
50. Pat Robertson (R-VA) (1930-1993) (1989-1993)

51. Bill Clinton (D-AR) (1946-1994) (1993-1994)[/u]
52. Al Gore (D-TN) (1948-1994) (1994)
53. Gary Condit (D-CA) (1948-1994) (1994)
54. Tom Foley (D-WA) (1929-1996) (1994-1996)

55. Jerry Brown (D-CA) (1938-) (1996-2001)[/b]
56. George W. Bush (R-TX) (1946-2005) (2001-2005)
57. Dick Cheney (R-WY) (1941-) (2005-2006)
58. John McCain (R-AZ) (1936-) (2006-2009)

59. Joe Biden (D-DE) (1942-2009) (2009)
60. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) (1940-2011) (2009-2011)
61. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) (1947-2013) (2011-2013)
62. Martin O’Malley (D-MD) (1963-) (2013-)
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« Reply #1814 on: December 18, 2015, 09:36:12 AM »

The No Comeback Kid

1993-1996: Paul E. Tsongas / John D. Rockefeller IV (Democratic)
1996-1996: John D. Rockefeller IV / vacant (Democratic)
1996-2005: John D. Rockefeller IV / John Breaux (Democratic)
2005-2009: Don Nickles / John Shadegg (Republican)
2009-2013: Mike Honda / Dan Hynes (Democratic)
2013-: Martha Rainville / Sam Katz (Republican)
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« Reply #1815 on: December 22, 2015, 02:55:56 PM »

1977-1985: Morris K. Udall / Frank Church (Democratic)
1985-1989: David Durenberger / Manuel Lujan (Republican)
1989-1993: Jim Oberstar / Elizabeth Holtzman (Democratic)
1993-2001: John Engler / Maureen Reagen (Republican)
2001-2005: Jim Folsom Jr. / Carlos F. Lucero (Democratic)
2005-2009: Tom McClintlock / Tom DeLay (Republican)
2009-: Denise Majette / Dick Swett (Democratic)
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« Reply #1816 on: December 24, 2015, 03:48:44 AM »

1974-1977: Vice Pres. Gerald Ford(R-MI)/Gov. Nelson Rockefeller(R-NY)
1977-1981: Sen. Henry Jackson(D-WA)/Gov. Reubin Askew(D-FL)
1981-1983: Fmr. Gov. Ronald Reagan(R-CA)/Fmr. Pres. Gerald Ford(R-MI)
1983-1989: Vice Pres. Gerald Ford(R-MI)/Sen. Henry Heinz, III(R-PA)
1989-1997: Sen. Sam Nunn(D-GA)/Rep. Dick Gephardt(D-MO)
1997-2005: Sen. H. John Heinz, III(R-PA)/Gov. Richard Riordan(R-CA)
2005-2013: Gov. Howard Dean(D-VT)/Rep. Harold Ford, Jr.(D-TE)
2013-2017: Gov. Tom Allon(R-NY)/Rep. Barry Goldwater, Jr.(R-CA)
2017-2025: Gov. Jason Carter(D-GA)/Mayor Bill De Blasio(D-NY)
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« Reply #1817 on: December 24, 2015, 04:35:12 PM »

If Gene Won: An Ideological Flip

1961-1969: Sen. Eugene McCarthy(D-MN)/Mayor John Lindsay(D-NY)
1969-1975: Gov. Nelson Rockefeller(R-NY)/Rep. Gerald Ford(R-MI)
1975-1977: Vice Pres. Gerald Ford(R-MI)/Gov. Ronald Reagan(R-CA)
1977-1981: Sen. John Glenn(D-OH)/Gov. James Carter(D-GA)
1981-1989: Fmr. Pres. Gerald Ford(R-MI)/Sen. John Heinz, III(R-PA)
1989-1997: Vice Pres. John Heinz, III(R-PA)/Sen. Mark Hatfield(R-OR)
1997-2005: Gov. Howard Dean(D-VT)/Sen. Sam Nunn(D-GA)
2005-2009: Gov. George Pataki(R-NY)/Sen. Condoleezza Rice(R-CA)
2009-2017: Gov. Harold Ford, Jr.(D-TE)/Sen. John McCain(D-AZ)
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« Reply #1818 on: December 27, 2015, 02:10:45 AM »

Supreme Leaders of the United Peoples of America

1. George C. Marshall, 1943-1959
2. Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1959-1969
3. Omar N. Bradley, 1969-1975
4. John S. McCain, Jr., 1975-1981
5. Alexander M. Haig, 1981-1990

6. John S. McCain, III, 1990-1995
7. Colin L. Powell, 1995-2000
8. H. Norman Schwarzkopf, 2000-2012
9. David H. Petraeus, 2012-2021

10. Robert B. Abrams, 2021-2026
11. John S. McCain, IV, 2026


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« Reply #1819 on: January 01, 2016, 02:32:41 PM »

The Natural Party of Government

1997-2013: Tony Blair (Labour)
2013-2015: John Hutton (Labour)
2015-2017: Robert Halfon (Conservative minority with DUP support)
2017-2024: Oona King (Labour)
2024-2030: Clive Lewis (Labour)
2030-2039: Richard Nickleson (United Alliance)
2039-2043: Helen Buford (United Alliance)
2043-: Kay Judd (Labour - Liberal coalition)


A shot at elections TTL.

2001 -
Labour - 416 seats (-2 seats)
Conservative - 160 seats (-6 seats)
Liberal Democrat - 54 seats (+8 seats)

2005 -
Labour - 408 seats (-8 seats)
Conservative - 162 seats (+2 seats)
Liberal Democrat - 59 seats (+5 seats)

2010 -
Labour - 364 seats (-44 seats)
Conservative - 203 seats (+41 seats)
Liberal Democrat - 61 seats (+2 seats)

2015 -
Conservative - 295 seats (+92 seats)
Labour - 282 seats (-82 seats)
Liberal Democrat - 49 seats (-12 seats)

2017 -
Labour - 349 seats (+47 seats)
Conservative - 251 seats (-44 seats)
Liberal Democrat - 48 seats (-1 seat)

2021 -
Labour - 337 seats (-12 seats)
Conservative - 271 seats (+20 seats)
Liberal Democrat - 42 seats (-6 seats)

2026 -
Labour - 356 seats (+19 seats)
Conservative - 249 seats (-22 seats)
Liberal Democrat - 46 seats (+4 seats)

2030 and on - Dunno.
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« Reply #1820 on: January 01, 2016, 03:26:20 PM »

"The best Republican President we've had in a while." -Alan Greenspan

40. Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA)/George H.W. Bush (R-TX) 1981
41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/vacant, Paul Laxalt (R-NV) 1981-1985

42. Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY) 1985-1993
43. William Jefferson Clinton (R-AR)/Judd Gregg (R-NH) 1993-2001
44. Judd Gregg (R-NH)/Carroll Campbell (R-SC) 2001-2005

45. John Edwards (D-NC)/John F. Kerry (D-MA) 2005-2009
46. Hillary Rodham Clinton (R-NY)/Barack Obama, Jr. (R-IL) 2009-Present
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« Reply #1821 on: January 01, 2016, 08:37:41 PM »

1974-1981: Gerald Ford(R-MI)/Gov. Daniel Evans(R-WA)
1981-1982: Vice Pres. Daniel Evans(R-WA)/Sen. Charles Percy(R-IL)*
1982-1985: Vice Pres. Charles Percy(R-IL)/Sen. Mark Hatfield(R-OR)
1985-1993: Rep. Morris Udall(R-AZ)/Sen. John Glenn(R-OH)
1993-2001: Sen. H. John Heinz, III(R-PA)/Rep. Guy Vander Jagt(R-MI)
2001: Sen. Sam Nunn(D-GA)/Sen. Jay Rockefeller(D-WV)**
2001-2009: Vice Pres. Jay Rockefeller(D-WV)/Gov. Mary Landrieu(D-LA)
2009-2017: Gov. Howard Dean(R-VT)/Sen. Pete McCloskey(R-CA)

*Assassinated July 4, 1982
**Died shortly after finalizing the Nunn Doctrine with Secretaries James Rubin(State), Wesley Clark(Defense), and National Security Advisor William Bratton(NS)
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« Reply #1822 on: January 01, 2016, 10:25:44 PM »

"The best Republican President we've had in a while." -Alan Greenspan

40. Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA)/George H.W. Bush (R-TX) 1981
41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/vacant, Paul Laxalt (R-NV) 1981-1985

42. Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY) 1985-1993
43. William Jefferson Clinton (R-AR)/Judd Gregg (R-NH) 1993-2001
44. Judd Gregg (R-NH)/Carroll Campbell (R-SC) 2001-2005

45. John Edwards (D-NC)/John F. Kerry (D-MA) 2005-2009
46. Hillary Rodham Clinton (R-NY)/Barack Obama, Jr. (R-IL) 2009-Present

I find it hard to believe that Bill Clinton would switch to the GOP after the Gipper is assassinated in 1981.
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« Reply #1823 on: January 01, 2016, 10:44:04 PM »

"The best Republican President we've had in a while." -Alan Greenspan

40. Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA)/George H.W. Bush (R-TX) 1981
41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/vacant, Paul Laxalt (R-NV) 1981-1985

42. Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY) 1985-1993
43. William Jefferson Clinton (R-AR)/Judd Gregg (R-NH) 1993-2001
44. Judd Gregg (R-NH)/Carroll Campbell (R-SC) 2001-2005

45. John Edwards (D-NC)/John F. Kerry (D-MA) 2005-2009
46. Hillary Rodham Clinton (R-NY)/Barack Obama, Jr. (R-IL) 2009-Present
I find it hard to believe that Bill Clinton would switch to the GOP after the Gipper is assassinated in 1981.

Eh, that's not the real PoD. I was just looking for a post that positioned the GOP in a pretty weak spot prior to Clinton's rise. If I actually wanted to do a "Bill Clinton Republican" timeline, obviously the divergence would be far earlier. This was just to set up a situation wherein the rise of a charismatic moderate by 1992 was all but necessary for survival of the GOP.
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« Reply #1824 on: January 01, 2016, 10:57:43 PM »

"The best Republican President we've had in a while." -Alan Greenspan

40. Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA)/George H.W. Bush (R-TX) 1981
41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/vacant, Paul Laxalt (R-NV) 1981-1985

42. Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY) 1985-1993
43. William Jefferson Clinton (R-AR)/Judd Gregg (R-NH) 1993-2001
44. Judd Gregg (R-NH)/Carroll Campbell (R-SC) 2001-2005

45. John Edwards (D-NC)/John F. Kerry (D-MA) 2005-2009
46. Hillary Rodham Clinton (R-NY)/Barack Obama, Jr. (R-IL) 2009-Present
I find it hard to believe that Bill Clinton would switch to the GOP after the Gipper is assassinated in 1981.

Eh, that's not the real PoD. I was just looking for a post that positioned the GOP in a pretty weak spot prior to Clinton's rise. If I actually wanted to do a "Bill Clinton Republican" timeline, obviously the divergence would be far earlier. This was just to set up a situation wherein the rise of a charismatic moderate by 1992 was all but necessary for survival of the GOP.
Perhaps Ford is Nixon's original running-mate, becomes President in 1974 and remains a huge success to the end of 1980, but a Reagan-Dole administration's economic policy change and extremism, causes a mixture of the 1989-1991 recession and the 1982-1983 one from 1982 to 1985. John Glenn is probably the most popular a Democrat could be, IMO.
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