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« Reply #1975 on: July 11, 2016, 01:12:29 PM »

A general alternate timeline

Nixon- 1961-1965
Barry Goldwater- 1965-1969 (Nixon's paranoia gets him in some other scandal in his first term, and Goldwater unseats him at the convention and wins on a wave of anti-establishment sentiment even though he's in the same party as Nixon)
Eugene McCarthy- 1969-1973 (The Vietnam War escalates, as it did in real life, with Goldwater possibly escalating it even further and going nuclear, leading to widespread international condemnation and unprecedented nuclear tension with the USSR, the Democrats nominate a hard line peace candidate in response and he wins)
Nelson Rockefeller- 1973-1979 (defeats McCarthy in a landslide as the nation reacts against his perceived radicalism and is easily reelected. Dies in 1979 as in real life. Likely would have chosen a conservative like Reagan or Dole as his running mate)
Reagan/Dole- 1979-1985
George H.W Bush- 1985-1993
Ross Perot- 1993-2001 (never exits the race here and his momentum only grows and grows)
Steve Forbes- 2001-2009 (captures much of Perot's anti-establishment coalition by being a businessman himself. Stays pro-choice in this timeline too, appealing to a wider variety of people)
Ron Paul- 2009-2017 (Due to Forbes' connection to Reform Party types (in this timeline still somewhat of a player at this point) limited government Republicans react more strongly to his anti-terrorism measures, creating an actual libertarian moment and the nomination of Paul. Instead of nominating someone super electable like Obama, the Dems to what the Republicans are doing now and throw a fit in their primary, noinating a Nader/Sanders/Kucinich type. The electorate is more afraid of a socialist than a rightist, so Paul wins)
Hillary Clinton elected in 2016 (This turns out exactly the same as this year. Trump gets nominated due to the Republican electorate being fed up with neo-liberalism, and concerns about terrorism (Paul wouldn't exactly be a hawk) while Clinton gets elected to the Senate earlier since Bill never becomes president, and is nominated for being moderate and electable while the "first woman" aspect also plays a bigger role since there hasn't been a black president)

A foreign policy GOP

Assuming the GOP nominates their candidates entirely based on foreign policy. The election outcomes stay the same

1952-1960- Same
1964- Henry Cabot Lodge
1968-1976 Same
1980-1984 George H.W. Bush (or Henry Kissinger if the Constitution gets amended. Did a thread about him running in 1980 in the alternate election forum)
1988-1992 George Schultz, or Bush (who likely would have been Sec. of State) in the Kissinger scenario)
1996- James Baker
2000-2004- Colin Powell
2008- David Petraeus
2012- John Huntsman
2016- Condoleezza Rice

A Kennedy Dynasty

JFK gets assassinated as in real life.

RFK-1969-1977
Reagan and Bush- 1977-1993
Ted Kennedy- 1993-2001
George W. Bush- 2001-2009
John F. Kennedy Jr.- 2009-2017 (doesn't die in a airplane crash and gets elected governor of New York in 2002)

Joe Kennedy III gets elected sometime in the near future


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« Reply #1976 on: July 11, 2016, 09:06:40 PM »

45. Donald Trump: 2017-2021 *
46. Elizabeth Warren: 2021-2029
47. Cory Gardner: 2029-2037


*Served only one term
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« Reply #1977 on: July 12, 2016, 02:17:57 PM »

45. Donald Trump: 2017-2021 *
46. Pocahontas: 2021-2029
47. Cory Gardner: 2029-2037


*Served only one term
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« Reply #1978 on: July 12, 2016, 07:59:05 PM »

45. Donald Trump: 2017-2021 *
46. Pocahontas: 2021-2029
47. Cory Gardner: 2029-2037


*Served only one term

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« Reply #1979 on: July 12, 2016, 10:51:28 PM »

Presidents and Deputy Presidents of the Republic of Texas(1836-1866):
1836-1845: Samuel Houston(Democracy)/David "Davy" Crockett(Independent)
1846-1851: Davy Crockett(Whig)/Lorenzo de Savala(Liberal)
1851-1856: Samuel Houston(Democracy)/Lorenzo de Savala(Liberal)
1856-1861: Andrew Jackson Hamilton(Liberal)/Albert Clinton Horton(Whig)
1861-1866: Albert Clinton Horton(Whig)/John Hunter Herndon(Democracy)

Chancellors and Deputy Chancellors of the Republics of Greater Texas(1866-Present):
1866-1870: Albert Clinton Horton(Whig)/Margaret Lea Houston(People's)
1870-1880: Fletcher Stockdale(People's)/Powell Clayton(Reform)
1880-1885: Augustus Hill Garland(Reform)/James Hogg(People's)
1885-1900: Andrew Jackson Houston(People's)/Horace Chilton(Whig)
1900-1905: Horace Chilton(Whig)/Temple Lea Houston(People's)
1905-1910: Temple Lea Houston(People's)/Horace Chilton(Whig)
1910-1920: President Temple Lea Houston(Conservative-TX)/Justice Minister Charles Haskell(C-OK)
1920-1930: Treasury Minister John Parker(Progressive-LA)/Charles Haskell(C-OK)
1930-1945: Governor-General Coke Stevenson(Liberal-TX)/Little Rock Mayor Douglas MacArthur(C-AR)
1945-1950: Vice Chancellor Douglas MacArthur(C-AR)/Governor Allan Shivers(L-TX)
1950-1960: Vice Chancellor Allan Shivers(L-TX)/House Speaker Lyndon Johnson(Nationalist-TX)
1960-1965: Vice Chancellor Lyndon Johnson(N-TX)/Foreign Minister Ben Guill(C-AR)
1965-1973: Governor Winthrop Rockefeller*(Progressive-AR)/Military Minister John Connally(N-TX)
1973-1980: Vice Chancellor John Connally(N-TX)/House Speaker Price Daniel, Jr.(C-TX)
1980-1985: Treasury Minister Lloyd Bentsen(C-TX)/Governor Buddy Roemer(N-LA)
1985-1995: Justice Minister Lloyd Doggett(N-TX)/Defense Minister Patrick M. Walsh(C-TX)
1995-2000: Treasury Minister Ann Richards(P-TX)/Police Minister Lee Brown(N-OK)
2000-2010: Treasury Minister William Halter(N-AR)/Governor-General Fred Harris(P-OK)
2010-Present: Foreign Minister Henry Cuellar(P-TX)Justice Minister Andrew Murr(C-TX)

*The beloved Chancellor died in office from cancer
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« Reply #1980 on: July 13, 2016, 08:37:07 PM »

36. Barry Goldwater: 1965-1969
37. George McGovern: 1969-1977
38. Birch Evan Bayh: 1977-1981
39. George H.W. Bush: 1981-1989
40. John H. Sununu: 1989-1993
41. Douglas Wilder: 1993-2001
42. Hillary Rodham: 2001-2005
43. Wesley Clark: 2005-2013
44. Paul Ryan: 2013- Present


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« Reply #1981 on: July 19, 2016, 09:08:00 PM »

The Era of the Single-Term Presidencies

41. Michael Dukakis, D-Massachusetts, January 20, 1989-January 20, 1993
42. Newt Gingrich, R-Georgia, January 20, 1993-January 20, 1997
43. Paul Wellstone, D-Minnesota, January 20, 1997-January 20, 2001
44. John McCain, R-Arizona, January 20, 2001-January 20, 2005
45. John Kerry, D-Massachusetts, January 20, 2005-January 20, 2009
46. Mike Huckabee, R-Arkansas, January 20, 2009-January 20, 2013
47. Martin O'Malley, D-Maryland, January 20, 2013-January 20, 2017
48. Paul Ryan, R-Wisconsin, January 20, 2017-January 20, 2025


Winning Tickets:

1988: Gov. Mike Dukakis, D-MA/Sen. Lloyd Bentsen, D-TX
1992: Speaker Newt Gingrich, R-GA/Gov. George Deukmejian, R-CA
1996: Sen. Paul Wellstone, D-MN/Sen. Al Gore, D-TN
2000: Sen. John McCain, R-AZ/Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson, R-TX
2004: Sen. John Kerry, D-MA/Gen. Wesley Clark, D-AR
2008: Gov. Mike Huckabee, R-AR/Gov. Mitt Romney, R-MA
2012: Gov. Martin O'Malley, D-MD/Rep. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-NY
2016: Speaker Paul Ryan, R-WI/Sen. Tom Cotton, R-AR
2020: Pres. Paul Ryan, R-WI/VP. Tom Cotton, R-AR

Loosing Tickets:

1988: VP George H.W. Bush, R-TX/Sen. Dan Quayle, R-IN
1992: Pres. Michael Dukakis, D-MA/VP Lloyd Bentsen, D-TX
1996: Pres. Newt Gingrich, R-GA/VP George Deukmejian, R-CA
2000: Pres. Paul Wellstone, D-MN/VP. Al Gore, D-TN
2004: Pres. John McCain, R-AZ/VP. Kay Bailey Hutchinson, R-TX
2008: Pres. John Kerry, D-MA/VP. Wesley Clark, D-AR
2012: Pres. Mike Huckabee, R-AR/VP. Mitt Romney, R-MA
2016: Pres. Martin O'Malley, D-MD/VP. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-NY
2020: Sen. Tammy Baldwin, D-WI/Gov. John Hickenlooper, D-CO
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« Reply #1982 on: July 19, 2016, 09:41:57 PM »
« Edited: July 22, 2016, 04:50:41 PM by Committeeman Kingpoleon »

1981: Former Governor Ronald Reagan*/Former President Gerald Ford
1981-1989: Vice President Gerald Ford/Senator Mark Hatfield
1989-1997: Senator Samuel Nunn/Governor Buddy Roemer
1997-2001: Former Secretary of State Jeane Kirkpatrick**/Governor Winthrop P. Rockefeller
2001-2009: Vice President Winthrop P. Rockefeller/U. N. Ambassador Condoleezza Rice
2009-2017: Governor Elizabeth Dole/Attorney General Lloyd Doggett
2017-2021: Speaker Paul Thurmond/Treasury Secretary George Wallace, Jr.

*Assassinated
**Assassinated September 11, 2001, after "successful" plan crashes into the Pentagon and the World Trade Center Towers
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« Reply #1983 on: July 20, 2016, 03:10:56 AM »

1981: Former Governor Ronald Reagan*/Former President Gerald Ford
1981-1989: Vice President Gerald Ford/Senator Mark Hatfield
1989-1997: Senator Samuel Nunn/Governor Buddy Roemer
1997-2001: Former Secretary of State Jeane Kirkpatrick**/Governor Winthrop P. Rockefeller
2001-2009: Vice President Winthrop P. Rockefeller/U. N. Ambassador Condoleezza Rice
2009-2017: Governor Elizabeth Dole/Attorney General Lloyd Doggett
2017-2021: Speaker Paul Thurmond/Treasury Secretary George Wallace, Jr.

*Assassinated
**Assassinated September 11, 2001, after "successful" plan crashes into the Pentagon and the World Trade Centers
Wew, heavy on the butterflies there.
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« Reply #1984 on: July 20, 2016, 08:07:24 AM »

The Last Republican President

43. George W. Bush (2001-2009)
44. Barack H. Obama (2009-2017)
45. Hillary R. Clinton (2017-2025)
46. Timothy M. Kaine (2025-2029)

47. Justin A. Amash (2029-2033)
48. Donald J. Trump, Jr. (2033-2037)
49. George P. Bush (2037-2045)

Major Parties:
Republican Party
Democratic Party
Libertarian Party
National Action Party
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« Reply #1985 on: July 20, 2016, 01:15:00 PM »

New York State of Mind:

45. Donald J. Trump: 2017-2025
46. Michael Pence: 2025-2029
47. Chelsea Clinton: 2029-2037
48. Donald J. Trump, Jr: 2037-2045

Defeated Tickets:
2016: Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine
2020: Corey Booker/Elizabeth Warren
2024: Joseph P. Kennedy/Kamala Harris
2028: Michael Pence/George P. Bush
2032: Marco Rubio/Chris Sununu
2036: Seth Moulton/Julian Castro
2040: Unknown Democrat Senator/Unknown Democratic Governor
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« Reply #1986 on: July 22, 2016, 04:38:16 PM »

Presidents of the United States, in Doctor Who
1789-1797: George Washington
1797-1801: John Adams
1801-1809: Thomas Jefferson
1809-1817: James Madison
1817-1825: James Monroe
1825-1829: John Q. Adams

1829-1837: Andrew Jackson
1837-1841: Martin van Buren

1841-1841: William Harrison1
1841-1845: John Tyler

1845-1849: James Polk
1849-1850: Zachary Taylor1
1850-1853: Millard Fillmore

1853-1857: Franklin Pierce

1857-1861: James Buchanan
1861-1865: Abraham Lincoln2
1865-1869: Andrew Johnson
1869-1877: Ulysses Grant
1877-1881: Rutherford Hayes
1881-1881: James Garfield2
1881-1885: Chester Arthur

1885-1889: Grover Cleveland
1889-1893: Benjamin Harrison
1893-1897: Grover Cleveland
1897-1901: William McKinley2
1901-1909: Theodore Roosevelt
1909-1913: William Howard Taft

1913-1921: Woodrow Wilson
1921-1923: Warren G. Harding1
1923-1929: Calvin Coolidge

1929-1933: Herbert Hoover

1933-1945: Franklin Roosevelt1
1945-1953: Harry Truman

1953-1961: Dwight Eisenhower
1961-1963: John Kennedy2
1963-1969: Lyndon Johnson

1969-1974: Richard Nixon3
1974-1977: Gerald Ford

1977-1981: Jimmy Carter
1981-1989: Ronald Reagan
1989-1993: George Bush

1993-1994: Bill Clinton4
1994-1997: John Carrol

1997-2000: Tom Dering5
2000-2003: Bruce Springsteen4
2003-2006: Chuck Norris4
2006-2009: Arthur Winters

2009-2009: Barack Obama6
2009-2009: The Master
2009-2017: Barack Obama
2017-2025: Felix Mather
2025-2033: Julie Brunell7
2033-2041: Kevin Barrett7
2041-2045: James Johnson7

2045-2053: Courtney Woods
1Dies as per OTL.
2Is assassinated as per OTL.
3Resigns as per OTL.
4Lazily-written assassination, to explain VP Carrol being President in 1994 (PROSE: Rennigan's Record), SoTH Norris becoming President in 2003, (PROSE: Cat's Cradle: Warhead, Interference) and VP Winters becoming President in 2006. (TV: The Sound of Drums)
5Lazily-written death, as a consequence of the universe ending, (TV: Doctor Who (1996)) and after it was prevented, for some reason, only Speaker Springsteen remained.
6Briefly overthrown by the Master as he turned every human into a clone of himself. (TV: The End of Time)
7Generic placeholders between Mather and Woods (TV: Kill the Moon)
Italics are implied, but not explicitly mentioned.
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« Reply #1987 on: July 24, 2016, 01:43:56 PM »

43. Donald J. Trump: 2001-2009
44. George W. Bush: 2009-2017

45. Cory Booker: 2017-2025
46. Timothy Kaine: 2025-2029

47. Donald J. Trump, Jr: 2029-2033
48. Chelsea Clinton: 2033-2041

Losing Tickets:

2000: Albert Gore/Joseph Lieberman
2004: Howard Dean/Joseph Biden
2008: Jerry Brown/Christopher Dodds
2012: Hillary Clinton/William Richardson

2016: Richard Perry/Richard Santorum
2020: Randal Paul/Mia Love
2024: Christopher Christie/George P. Bush

2028: Timothy Kaine/Martin O'Malley
2032: Donald J. Trump, Jr./Mark Kirk
2036: Donald J. Trump, Jr./Christopher Sununu
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« Reply #1988 on: July 24, 2016, 11:38:16 PM »


Alternate Israeli Prime Ministers:
1st Prime Minister: David Ben-Gurion, Mapai/Rafi: 1949-1959 * Retires; Joins Rafi
2nd Prime Minister: Moshe Dayan, Rafi: 1959-1963 * Loses
3rd Prime Minister: Haim Moshe-Shapira, National Religious Party: 1963-1969 * Loses
4th Prime Minister: Golda Meir, Alignment/Rafi: 1969-1974 * Resigns
5th Prime Minister: Shimon Peres, Alignment/Mapai: 1974-1975 * Loses
6th Prime Minister: Menachem Begin, Herut: 1975-1984 * Resigns
7th Prime Minister: Yitzhak Shamir, Herut: 1984-1988 * Loses
8th Prime Minister: Shimon Peres, Mapai: 1988-1990 * Loses
9th Prime Minister: Moshe Arens, Herut: 1990-1993 * Loses
10th Prime Minister: Yitzhak Rabin, Rafi: 1993-1998 * Retires
11th Prime Minister: Benjamin Netanyahu, Herut: 1998-2006 * Retires
12th Prime Minister: Ehud Barak, Rafi: 2006-2009 * Loses
13th Prime Minister: Benny Begin, Herut: 2009-2012 * Retires
14th Prime Minister: Yair Lapid, Shinui: 2012-2015 * Loses
15th Prime Minister: Limor Livnat, Herut: 2015-Current

Best to Worst PM Performance:
1. David Ben-Gurion
2. Menachem Begin
3. Yitzhak Rabin
4. Haim Moshe-Shapira
5. Benjamin Netanyahu
6. Golda Meir
7. Yitzhak Shamir
8. Moshe Dayan
9. Benny Begin
10. Moshe Arens
11. Ehud Barak
12. Yair Lapid
13/14. Shimon Peres

Livnat not ranked.

1. Ben-Gurion leaves Mapai over electoral reform issues, just like in real life, but in this scenario his exit helps fellow Mapai-defector Moshe Dayan ascend to the Premiership
2. Alignment between Mapai, Mapam and Rafi is formed in 1968, after years in opposition or minor roles in government w/ NRP.
3. Alignment starts crumbling after the Yom Kippur War (Ben Gurion calls for Rafi to pull away months before his death in 1973; calls for separation are renewed after the war in 1974 by hawkish members such as Moshe Dayan)
4. Golda Meir's resignation intensifies rivalry between Rafi and Mapai factions of Alignment. Shimon Peres takes over and moves toward a dovish foreign policy. Rafi officially breaks away on November 25th 1974. Golda Meir, Moshe Dayan, Amos Ben-Gurion (son of David) and Yitzhak Navon all become prominent supporters of Rafi. Shimon Peres and most of his cabinet identify with Mapai.
5. Rafi-Mapai schism allows for Herut, the right-wing party, to take over. Herut rules from 1974-1988
6. Mapai takes over in 1988 only to get obliterated in 1990. Going from 26 seats to 2 seats. Mapai folds in 1991 and Shimon Peres and his former party members join Rafi. Peres' career is over, essentially.
7. Yitzhak Rabin and Rafi elected in 1993. Peace Process occurs as in real life, but later in time. Rabin survives assassination attempt. Peace movement continues, but ultimately fails as Yasser Arafat proves he does not want peace. Rabin retires in 1998 as a well-respected figure, but with sagging numbers in the face of renewed Palestinian attacks on Israel.

Lol, I forgot about this! Maybe after I finish my current Israeli timeline I could embark on an entire Israeli History one.
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« Reply #1989 on: July 29, 2016, 10:10:57 PM »

45. Donald Trump    January 20-23, 20171
46. Mike Pence        January 23-April 8, 20172
47. Eric Holcomb     April 8-August 22, 20173
48. Paul Ryan          August 22, 2017-January 20, 2021


1Term cut short after being mauled by a pack of rabid dogs.
2Appointed Governor Eric Holcomb (R-IN) Vice-President; shortly thereafter resigned as President to serve as Provost of the University of Phoenix.
3Appointed Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) Vice-President; made first contact with aliens from Zeldar, a small planet in the vicinity of Alpha Centauri; shortly thereafter resigned as President to serve as Supreme Emperor of the Galaxy.
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« Reply #1990 on: July 30, 2016, 03:14:45 AM »
« Edited: July 30, 2016, 03:17:50 AM by President Leinad »

Three Families

35. John F. Kennedy1 1961-1965
36. Prescott Bush2 1965-1969
37. Robert F. Kennedy 1969-1977
38. George H. W. Bush 1977-1985
39. Ted Kennedy3 1985-1987
40. Bill Clinton 1987-1997
41. Joseph Kennedy II4 1997-2001

42. Jeb Bush5 2001-2005
43. Hillary Clinton6 2005-2013
44. George W. Bush7 2013-2021
45. Caroline Kennedy8 2021-2025
46. George P. Bush9 2025-2033
47. Joseph Kennedy III10 2033-2041
48. Chelsea Clinton11 2041-2049

49. Prescott Bush II12 2049-2057
50. Owen Kennedy13 14 2057-2060
51. Charlotte Clinton Mezvinsky15 2060-2061

52. Jack Bush16 17 2061

1 Not assassinated in reality, but basically assassinated when chronicles of his extramarital affairs were published just before the 1964 election, swinging public opinion against him.
2 Decided to run again for Senate in 1962, and won the 1964 primaries as a dark horse candidate.
3 Assassinated November 22nd, 1987 by Oswald Le Havre (allegedly), succeeded by Vice President Bill Clinton.
4 Won the 1985 special election to succeed Tip O'Neill, who himself won the special election to succeed President Ted Kennedy, and then was elected Senator in his own right in 1988.
5 Won the 1994 Gubernatorial election.
6 Ran for New York Senate in 2000 as in OTL.
7 After two terms as Governor of Texas, succeeded retiring Phil Gramm as Senator.
8 Appointed to fill President Hillary Clinton's seat as New York Senator.
9 Won the 2018 Texas Gubernatorial election.
10 Won the 2020 Massachusetts Senatorial election.
11 Appointed to fill President Caroline Kennedy's seat as New York Senator.
12 Currently only 3 years old, Senator from Texas from 2044-2049.
13 Currently only 4 years old, Governor of Rhode Island 2051-2057.
14 Impeached after selling government secrets to the International Association for Computer Rights, an artificial intelligence terrorist organization then posing as a civil rights group, succeeded by Vice President Charlotte Clinton Mezvinsky.
15 Currently only 1 year old, Senator from New York 2049-2057.
16 Currently only 1 year old, Attorney General 2049-2053, Senator from Texas 2055-2061.
17 Presidency abolished shortly after Bush's inauguration, humans enslaved by AI overlords.
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« Reply #1991 on: August 07, 2016, 10:44:42 PM »

George H. W. Bush (Republican-Texas)/Paul Laxalt (Republican-Nevada) 1981-1989
James Traficant (Democrat-Ohio)/William J. Clinton (Democrat-Arkansas) 1989-1997
William Weld (Republican-Massachusetts)/George W. Bush (Republican-Texas) 1997-2005
George W. Bush (Republican-Texas)/John S. McCain, III (Republican-Arizona) 2005-2009

Barack H. Obama (Democrat-Hawaii)/Evan Bayh (Democrat-Indiana) 2009-2013
Hillary Rodham-Weld (Republican-Illinois)/"Mitt" Romney (Republican-Utah) 2013-2017
Dr. Jill Stein (Democrat-Massachusetts)/"Bernie" Sanders (Democrat-Vermont) 2017-Present
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« Reply #1992 on: August 13, 2016, 02:36:11 PM »

George H. W. Bush (Republican-Texas)/Paul Laxalt (Republican-Nevada) 1981-1989
James Traficant (Democrat-Ohio)/William J. Clinton (Democrat-Arkansas) 1989-1997
William Weld (Republican-Massachusetts)/George W. Bush (Republican-Texas) 1997-2005
George W. Bush (Republican-Texas)/John S. McCain, III (Republican-Arizona) 2005-2009

Barack H. Obama (Democrat-Hawaii)/Evan Bayh (Democrat-Indiana) 2009-2013
Hillary Rodham-Weld (Republican-Illinois)/"Mitt" Romney (Republican-Utah) 2013-2017
Dr. Jill Stein (Democrat-Massachusetts)/"Bernie" Sanders (Democrat-Vermont) 2017-Present[/color]

RIP America FF. Sad
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« Reply #1993 on: September 10, 2016, 04:49:01 PM »

George H. W. Bush (Republican-Texas)/Paul Laxalt (Republican-Nevada) 1981-1989
James Traficant (Democrat-Ohio)/William J. Clinton (Democrat-Arkansas) 1989-1997
William Weld (Republican-Massachusetts)/George W. Bush (Republican-Texas) 1997-2005
George W. Bush (Republican-Texas)/John S. McCain, III (Republican-Arizona) 2005-2009

Barack H. Obama (Democrat-Hawaii)/Evan Bayh (Democrat-Indiana) 2009-2013
Hillary Rodham-Weld (Republican-Illinois)/"Mitt" Romney (Republican-Utah) 2013-2017
Dr. Jill Stein (Democrat-Massachusetts)/"Bernie" Sanders (Democrat-Vermont) 2017-Present[/color]

RIP America FF. Sad

Worry not! Dr. Stein with her trailblazing Secretary of State Michael Flynn managed to establish detente with the Soviet Union and end the Cold War, a mere century and three years after the October Revolution! Tongue
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« Reply #1994 on: September 16, 2016, 04:44:21 PM »

1981-1985: Former President Gerald Ford/Senate Minority Leader Howard Baker(R)
1985-1993: Representative Morris Udall/Senator Birch Bayh(D)
1993-2001: Former VP Howard Baker/Mayor Rudy Giuliani(R)
2001-2005: Senator Birch Bayh*/Governor Elizabeth Dole(D)
2005-2013: Senator Paul Tsongas/Governor Howard Dean(R)
2013-PRESENT: VP Howard Dean/Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice(R)
*Severely wounded in 9/11 attacks, he retires in 2004 after he has been diagnosed with a tumor near one of his former wounds
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« Reply #1995 on: September 16, 2016, 11:41:27 PM »

1981-1985: Former President Gerald Ford/Senate Minority Leader Howard Baker(R)
1985-1993: Representative Morris Udall/Senator Birch Bayh(D)
1993-2001: Former VP Howard Baker/Mayor Rudy Giuliani(R)
2001-2005: Senator Birch Bayh*/Governor Elizabeth Dole(D)
2005-2013: Senator Paul Tsongas/Governor Howard Dean(R)
2013-PRESENT: VP Howard Dean/Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice(R)
*Severely wounded in 9/11 attacks, he retires in 2004 after he has been diagnosed with a tumor near one of his former wounds

 So, I take it that Dinkins loses to Giuliani in 1989 ITTL?
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« Reply #1996 on: September 17, 2016, 02:32:42 PM »

FIRST MINISTERS of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
1. Phillip Schuyler of New York [Arnoldite Whig | Whig] 1779 - 1784
2. Benedict Arnold of Connecticut [Federalist | Federalist] 1784 - 1794
(1) Phillip Schuyler of New York [Federalist | Federalist] 1794 - 1799
3. Alexander Hamilton of New York [Federalist | Federalist] 1799 - 1814
4. Timothy Pickering of Massachusetts [Federalist | Federalist] 1814 - 1824

5. Henry Clay of Virginia [Continental | Continental-National Federalist] 1824 - 1834
6. David Crockett of Franklin [Continental | Continental-National Federalist] 1834 - 1844

7. John Tyler of Virginia [Democratic | Democratic-Continental] 1844 - 1849
8. Thomas Hart Benton of Missouri [Democratic | Democratic^] 1849 - 1854
9. Stephen Douglas of Illinois [Democratic | Democratic] 1854 - 1859

10. William H. Seward of New York [Liberal | Liberal-Continental-Portsmouth Democrat] 1859 - 1869
11. Schuyler Colfax of Wabash [Liberal | Liberal] 1869 - 1871 *
12. Charles Sumner of Massachusetts [Liberal | Liberal] 1871 - 1874 †
13. Henry Wilson of Massachusetts [Liberal | Liberal] 1874

14. Thomas A. Hendricks of Wabash [Democratic | Democratic-Reform] 1874 - 1879
15. Samuel J. Tilden of New York [Democratic | Democratic-Reform] 1879 - 1884

16. James G. Blaine of Massachusetts [Liberal | Liberal] 1884 - 1889
17. Adlai E. Stevenson of Illinois [Democratic | Democratic] 1889 - 1894
18. Walter Q. Gresham of Wabash [Liberal | Liberal-Independent Labor-Reform] 1894 - 1895
19. James B. Weaver of Keosaqua [Independent | Liberal-Independent Labor-Reform] 1895 - 1899

20. William J. Bryan of Nebraska [Democratic | Democratic-Farmer Labor] 1899 - 1909
21. Robert M. La Follette of Wisconsin [Progressive | Progressive] 1909 - 1914
22. James B. Clark of Missouri [Democratic | Democratic-Farmer Labor] 1914 - 1919
23. Thomas R. Marshall of Wabash [Progressive | Progressive] 1919 - 1924
24. Herbert Hoover of California [Progressive | Progressive] 1924 - 1929

25. Calvin Coolidge of Massachusetts [Conservative | Conservative-Democratic] 1929 - 1939
26. John W. Bricker of Ohio [Conservative | Conservative] 1939 - 1949

27. Estes Kefauver of Franklin [Farmer Labor | Democratic-Farmer Labor-Progressive] 1949 - 1959
28. Richard M. Nixon of California [Conservative | Conservative] 1959 - 1964
29. Hubert H. Humphrey of Minnesota [Progressive | Democratic-Farmer Labor-Progressive] 1964 - 1969
(28) Richard M. Nixon of California [Conservative | Conservative] 1969 - 1974
30. George Romney of Michigan [Conservative | Conservative] 1974 - 1979

31. Carl Albert of Oklahoma [Farmer Labor | Democratic-Farmer Labor-Progressive] 1979 - 1989
32. Lloyd Bentsen of Texas [Democratic | Democratic-Farmer Labor-Progressive] 1989 - 1999
33. Al Gore of Franklin [Democratic | Democratic-Farmer Labor-Progressive] 1999 - 2004

34. John McCain of New Mexico [Conservative | Conservative] 2004 - 2014
35. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts [Social Democrats | Social Democrats-Progressive-Farmer Labor] 2014 - incumbent



^ Minority Government     *Resigned     †Died in office of natural causes
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« Reply #1997 on: September 17, 2016, 03:16:41 PM »

1981-1985: Former President Gerald Ford/Senate Minority Leader Howard Baker(R)
1985-1993: Representative Morris Udall/Senator Birch Bayh(D)
1993-2001: Former VP Howard Baker/Mayor Rudy Giuliani(R)
2001-2005: Senator Birch Bayh*/Governor Elizabeth Dole(D)
2005-2013: Senator Paul Tsongas/Governor Howard Dean(R)
2013-PRESENT: VP Howard Dean/Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice(R)
*Severely wounded in 9/11 attacks, he retires in 2004 after he has been diagnosed with a tumor near one of his former wounds
Really? 9/11?
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« Reply #1998 on: September 17, 2016, 05:02:50 PM »

45. Jon Huntsman: 2013-2021 (R)
46. Nikki Haley: 2021-2025 (R)
47. Cory Booker: 2025-2033 (D)
48. Chelsea Clinton: 2033-2041 (D)
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« Reply #1999 on: September 17, 2016, 06:15:43 PM »

37. Richard Nixon (1969-74) [R]
38. Gerald Ford (1974-81) [R]
39. Jerry Brown (1981-89) [D]
40. Jesse Jackson (1989-93) [D]
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