List of Alternate Presidents

[MadmanMotley]

I guess I'll have a go. In this universe, JFK never went to Texas and got killed.

John F. Kennedy/Lyndon Johnson (1961-1965)

Barry Goldwater/Prescott Bush (1965-1973)

Richard Nixon/Nelson Rockefeller (1973-1977)

Robert F. Kennedy/Birch Bayh (1977-1981)

Ronald Reagan/Howard Baker (1981-1989)

Donald Rumsfeld/Bob Dole (1989-1993)

Bill Clinton/James Stockdale (I) (1993-1997)

Bill Clinton/Robert Casey (1997-2001)

Dan Quayle/Elizabeth Dole (2001-2009)

Joe Biden/Evan Bayh (2009-2013)

Ron Paul/John Huntsman (2013-2017)

Rand Paul*/John Huntsman (2017-2021)

Rand Paul/Susana Martinez (2021-2025)

That's as far as I'm gonna go, no need to make up characters

*Ron Paul steps down Rand Paul wins Republican Primaries, keeps Huntsman for first term.

[MadmanMotley]

Sure why not?
Ronald Reagan/Howard Baker 1981-1989
Paul Laxalt/Donald Rumsfeld 1989-1993
Paul Tsongas/Bill Clinton 1993-1994
Bill Clinton/Tom Harkin 1994-1998
Tom Harkin/John Kerry 1998-2001
Dan Quayle/Jeb Bush 2001-2009
John Edwards/Evan Bayh 2009-2013
Evan Bayh/Joe Biden 2013-2017
Rand Paul/John Huntsman 2017-2025
Julian Castro/Mark Warner 2025-2033

[MadmanMotley]

Ronald Reagan/Howard Baker 1981-1989
Howard Baker/Paul Laxalt 1989-1997
Ross Perot/Pat Buchanan 1997-2001
Dan Quayle/Jeb Bush 2001-2009
Mark Warner/Barack Obama 2009-2017
Rand Paul/Suzana Martinez 2017-2025

In this TL, Reagan picks Baker for VP, Baker is more popular than Bush was, Ross Perot waits till '96 to run. Failed tickets are the same from '80-'88
Failed Tickets:
1992: Mario Cuomo/Paul Tsongas
1996: Al Gore/Jerry Brown Bob Dole/Carrol Campbell
2000: Howard Dean/Joe Lieberman Ross Perot/Pat Buchanan
2004: Joe Lieberman/Bill Clinton Pat Buchanan/Jesse Ventura
2008: Rudy Guliani/Fred Thompson
2012: Tim Pawlenty/Rob Portman
2016: Russ Feingold/Martin O'Mally
2020: Barack Obama/Julian Castro

[MadmanMotley]

Here's my Reagan in '68 list.
Ronald Reagan/George Romney (1969-1977)
George Romney/Paul Laxalt (1977-1981)
Lloyd Bentsen/Jerry Brown (1981-1989)
Howard Baker/Jack Kemp (1989-1997)
Jack Kemp/Dan Quayle (1997-2005)
Dan Quayle/Jeb Bush (2005-2009)
Mark Warner/Wesley Clark (2009-2017)

Failed Tickets:
(1968, 1972, 1976 no change)
1980: George Romney/Paul Laxalt, John Anderson/Patrick Lucey
1984: Paul Laxalt/Bob Dole
1988: Jerry Brown/Al Gore
1992: Paul Tsongas/Tom Harkin
1996: Bill Clinton/Bob Kerrey
2000: Joe Lieberman/Dick Gephardt
2004: John Edwards/Howard Dean
2008: Dan Quayle/Jeb Bush
2012: Rudy Giuliani/John McCain

[MadmanMotley]

Here's my Reagan in '68 list.
Ronald Reagan/George Romney (1969-1977)
George Romney/Paul Laxalt (1977-1981)
Lloyd Bentsen/Jerry Brown (1981-1989)
Howard Baker/Jack Kemp (1989-1997)
Jack Kemp/Dan Quayle (1997-2005)
Dan Quayle/Jeb Bush (2005-2009)
Mark Warner/Wesley Clark (2009-2017)

Failed Tickets:
(1968, 1972, 1976 no change)
1980: George Romney/Paul Laxalt, John Anderson/Patrick Lucey
1984: Paul Laxalt/Bob Dole
1988: Jerry Brown/Al Gore
1992: Paul Tsongas/Tom Harkin
1996: Bill Clinton/Bob Kerrey
2000: Joe Lieberman/Dick Gephardt
2004: John Edwards/Howard Dean
2008: Dan Quayle/Jeb Bush
2012: Rudy Giuliani/John McCain

What exactly did Bentsen do to cause five Republican terms in a row?

Nice list! It would make for an interesting TL.

To the first question, Reagan's terms turned out great.
To the second, Bentsen didn't do anything bad per say, but the Democrats had really bad timing. Example, if 9/11 hadn't happened, Quayle would have lost the election, Kemp and Baker did well with the Economy, and were rewarded in victory, though sometimes narrowly.
Maybe once I finish my 2012 TL, I'll work on this, or if someone who does TLs that I like, I'd have them do it.

[MadmanMotley]

Rep. John Anderson/Gov. Patrick Lucey (1981-1985)
Sen. Howard Baker/Sen. Paul Laxalt (1985-1993)
Rep. Ross Perot/Gen. Colin Powell (1993-1997)
Sen. Richard Lugar/Sen. Elizabeth Dole (1997-2005)
Sen. John Edwards/Sen. Evan Bayh (2005-2009)
Gov. Jesse Ventura/Gov. Gary Johnson (2009-2013)
Fmr VP. Evan Bayh/ Sen. Kristen Gillibrand (2013-2021)
Spkr. Justin Amash/Gov. John Huntsman (2021-2029)

Defeated Tickets:
1980: Gov. Reagan/CIA Dir. Bush, Pres. Carter/VP. Mondale
1984: Pres. Anderson/VP. Lucey, VP. Mondale/Sen. Bentsen
1988: Fmr. Pres. Anderson/Rep. Ross Perot, Sen. Gore/Fmr. Gov. Babbit
1992: VP. Laxalt/Mr. Buchanan, Gov. Dukakis/Sen. Biden
1996: Pres. Perot/VP Powell, Gov. Tsongas/Gov. Brown
2000: Mr. Hagelin/Sen. Boren Gov. Bill Clinton/Sen. Daschle
2004: Gov. George W. Bush/Sen. McCain, Sen. Boren/Gov. Jerry Brown
2008: Pres. Edwards/VP Bayh, Mayor. Giuliani/Ambassador Bolton
2012: Pres. Ventura/VP. Johnson, Gov. Pawlenty/Gov. Romney
2016: Gov. Angus King/Mayor. Anderson Gov. Haley/Gov. Kasich
2020: Mayor Anderson/Mayor Bloomberg VP. Gillibrand/Sen. Schweitzer
2024: Sen. Sanders/Mayor Anderson Gov. Cuomo/Sen. Klobuchar

[MadmanMotley]

41: Al Gore (D-TN)/ Joe Biden (D-DE) (1989-1993)
42: Howard Baker (R-TN)/Richard Lugar (R-IN) (1993-2001)
43: Richard Lugar (R-IN)/Pete Wilson (R-CA) (2001-2005)*
44: Bill Clinton (D-AK)/John Kerry (D-MA) (2005-2009)
45: Dan Quayle (R-IN)/George Pataki (R-NY) (2009-2017)
46: Brian Schweitzer (D-MT)/Jay Nixon (D-MO) (2017-2025)

*Declined to run for a second term.

[MadmanMotley]

Robert Taft (R-OH)/Earl Warren (R-CA) (1949-1957)
Adlai Stevenson II (D-IL)/John F Kennedy (D-MA) (1957-1965)
John F Kennedy (D-MA)/George Smathers (D-FL) (1965-1969)
George Romney (R-MI)/Ronald Reagan (R-CA) (1969-1977)
Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/James Buckley (R-NY) (1977-1985)
Robert Kennedy (D-NY)/Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) (1985-1993)
Howard Baker (R-TN)/Colin Powell (R-NY) (1993-2001)
Al Gore (D-TN)/Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) (2001-2009)
Dan Quayle (R-IN)/Michael Steele (R-MD) (2009-2017)

[MadmanMotley]

Defeated Tickets:
1948: Truman/Barkley
1952: Fulbright/Williams
1956: Warren/Rockefeller
1960: Smith-Chase/Cabot-Lodge
1964: Nixon/Goldwater
1968: JFK/Smathers
1972: Smathers/Humphrey
1976: Shriver/McGovern
1980: Humphrey/Connolly
1984: Buckley/Anderson
1988: DuPont/Laxalt
1992: Bentsen/Bayh
1996: Clinton/Kerrey
2000: Gramm/Wilson
2004: Ashcroft/Watts
2008: Shaheen/Obama
2012: Gregoire/Kaine

[MadmanMotley]

Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R-MA) (1961-1965)
Henry Jackson (D-WA)/John Connally (D-TX) (1965-1969)
Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)/George Romney (R-MI) (1969-1977)
John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Gary Hart (D-CO) (1977-1985)
Gary Hart (D-CO)/Al Gore (D-TN) (1985-1993)
Richard Lugar (R-IN)/Pete Wilson (R-CA) (1993-2001)
Howard Dean (D-VT)/Wesley Clark (2001-2009)
Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX)/JC Watts (R-OK) (2009-2017)

[MadmanMotley]

Fmr. Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Fmr. Gov. Mike Huckabee (R-AR) 2009-2013
Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL)/Fmr. Gov. Kathleen Sibelius (D-KS) 2013-2017
Gov. Ken Cuccinelli (R-VA)/House Majority Whip. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA) 2017-2025
Gov. Kamala Harris (D-CA)/Gov. Beau Biden (D-DE) 2025-2029
Spkr. Justin Amash (R-MI)/Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) 2029-2037

[MadmanMotley]

CSA wins independence:

USA:
Abraham Lincoln (R-IL)/Hannibal Hamlin (R-ME) 1861-1881
James G. Blaine (R-ME)/Chester A. Arthur (R-NY) 1881-1889
Grover Cleveland (U-NY)/Allen G. Thurman (U-OH) 1889-1893
Robert Todd Lincoln (R-IL)/William McKinley (R-OH) 1893-1897
Grover Cleveland (U-NY)/Adlai Stevenson I(U-IL) 1897-1901
Robert Todd Lincoln (R-IL)/Henry Cabot Lodge (R-MA) 1901-1909
Charles Fairbanks (R-IN)/Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY)* 1909-1921
Thomas J. Walsh (PU-MT)/James Cox (U-OH) 1921-1933
James Watson (R-IN)/Hiram Johnson (PR-CA)* 1933-1949
Robert Taft (R-OH)/Harold Stassen (R-MN) 1949-1961
Adlai Stevenson II (U-IL)*/John Kennedy (U-MA) 1961-1965
John Kennedy (U-MA)/Hubert Humphrey (PU-MN) 1965-1973
George Romney (R-MI)/Edward Brooke (PR-MA) 1973-1981
Jerry Brown (U-CA)/Robert Kennedy (U-MA) 1981-1989
Paul Laxalt (R-NV)/Bob Dole (R-KS) 1989-2001
Hillary Rodham (U-NY)/Evan Bayh (U-IN) 2001-2009
Mitt Romney (R-MI)/Colin Powell (R-NY) 2009-2017

*Died in office
After the separation of USA and CSA, the northern democrats did not want the stigma of the name democrat, and changed their party name to Union.
There were Progressive wings of each party, hence the PU or PR.

CSA to come later.

[MadmanMotley]

CSA wins independence:

USA:
Abraham Lincoln (R-IL)/Hannibal Hamlin (R-ME) 1861-1881
James G. Blaine (R-ME)/Chester A. Arthur (R-NY) 1881-1889
Grover Cleveland (U-NY)/Allen G. Thurman (U-OH) 1889-1893
Robert Todd Lincoln (R-IL)/William McKinley (R-OH) 1893-1897
Grover Cleveland (U-NY)/Adlai Stevenson I(U-IL) 1897-1901
Robert Todd Lincoln (R-IL)/Henry Cabot Lodge (R-MA) 1901-1909
Charles Fairbanks (R-IN)/Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY)* 1909-1921
Thomas J. Walsh (PU-MT)/James Cox (U-OH) 1921-1933
James Watson (R-IN)/Hiram Johnson (PR-CA)* 1933-1949
Robert Taft (R-OH)/Harold Stassen (R-MN) 1949-1961
Adlai Stevenson II (U-IL)*/John Kennedy (U-MA) 1961-1965
John Kennedy (U-MA)/Hubert Humphrey (PU-MN) 1965-1973
George Romney (R-MI)/Edward Brooke (PR-MA) 1973-1981
Jerry Brown (U-CA)/Robert Kennedy (U-MA) 1981-1989
Paul Laxalt (R-NV)/Bob Dole (R-KS) 1989-2001
Hillary Rodham (U-NY)/Evan Bayh (U-IN) 2001-2009
Mitt Romney (R-MI)/Colin Powell (R-NY) 2009-2017

*Died in office
After the separation of USA and CSA, the northern democrats did not want the stigma of the name democrat, and changed their party name to Union.
There were Progressive wings of each party, hence the PU or PR.

CSA to come later.

Why is Lincoln so popular ITTL? It doesn't really make sense for a President who lost a war to be reelected four times...

The war went on a lot longer ITTL (British got involved), and his opposition was poor (transition from Democratic party to Union party.) Lincoln also brought the country out of a depression after the war ended.

[MadmanMotley]

Dynasties:
Hillary Clinton/Mark Warner 2017-2021
Jeb Bush/Scott Walker 2021-2029
Joseph P. Kennedy III/Kamala Harris 2029-2037
George P. Bush/Mia Love 2037-2045
Malia Obama/Chelsea Clinton 2045-2053

[MadmanMotley]

Sen. Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN)/Gov. Robert Kerrey (D-NE) 1993-1997
Sen. Richard Lugar (R-IN)/Sen. Michael Steele (R-MD) 1997-2005
Gov. Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)/Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL) 2005-2009
Fmr. VP. Michael Steele (R-MD)/Gov. Jon Huntsman (R-UT) 2009-2017
Sen. Mitch Daniels (R-IN)*/Gov. Nikki Haley (R-SC) 2017-2025
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)/Gov. Gavin Newsom (D-CA) 2025-2033

*Mitch Daniels was appointed to fill Richard Lugar's senate seat, after his term was up, he ran for governor (2000). He won, and was elected in 2004. In 2010, he ran again for senate, winning against his opponent Brad Ellsworth 58-42. In 2016, Jon Huntsman declined to run for president, making it an open race. Mitch Daniels declared his intentions, and was one of the front runners along with Senator Rand Paul and Governor Mike Huckabee. Mitch Daniels was able to sure up the Republican nomination after a long primary battle, but both Paul and Huckabee endorsed him in the end.

[MadmanMotley]

Sen. John Kerry (D-MA)/Sen. John Edwards (D-NC) 2005-2009
Fmr. Pres. George W. Bush (R-TX)/Fmr. Sec. Colin Powell (R-NY) 2009-2013
Gov. Mitch Daniels (R-IN)/Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) 2013-2021
Gov. Kamela Harris (D-CA)/Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) 2021-2025
Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY)/Gov. Mia Love (R-UT) 2025-2033

[MadmanMotley]

Gov. Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Sen. Al Gore (R-TN) 1993-1997
Fmr. Pres. George HW Bush (R-TX)/Gov. Pete Wilson (R-CA) 1997-2001
VP. Pete Wilson (R-CA)/Fmr. Gov. John McKernan (R-ME) 2001-2005
Fmr. VP. Al Gore (D-TN)/Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) 2005-2009
Fmr. VP. John McKernan (R-ME)/Gov. George W. Bush (R-TX) 2009-2017

[MadmanMotley]

George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 1989-1997
Dan Quayle (R-IN)/Lamar Alexander (R-TN) 1997-2001
Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Paul Wellstone (D-MN) 2001-2009
Alan Keyes (R-MD)/Fred Thompson (R-TN) 2009-2017

[MadmanMotley]

From my would be TL, Long vs Roosevelt vs Landon:
Franklin Roosevelt (D-NY)/John Nance Garner (D-TX) 1933-1937
Gov. Alf Landon (R-KS)/Frank Knox (R-MA) 1937-1945
Gen. Dwight Eisenhower (I-NY)/Gov. Earl Warren (R-CA) 1945-1953
Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)/Gov. Adlai Stevenson (D-IL) 1953-1957
Fmr. VP. Earl Warren (R-CA)/Sen. Robert Taft (R-OH) 1957-1961
Sen. Lyndon Johnson (D-TX)/Sen. John Kennedy (D-MA) 1961-1963
VP. John Kennedy (D-MA)/(vacant) Gov. Matthew Welsh (D-IN) 1963-1965
Fmr. VP. Robert Taft (R-OH)/Sen. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) 1965-1973
Sen. Robert Kennedy (D-NY)/Sen. Henry Jackson (D-WA) 1973-1981
Sen. Howard Baker (R-TN)/Sen. Larry Pressler (R-SD) 1981-1997
Gov. William Clinton (D-AR)/Sen. Bob Kerrey (D-NE) 1997-2009
Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)/Gov. Haley Barbour (R-MS) 2009-2017

[MadmanMotley]

Madam President:
Sec. Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)/Gov. George W. Bush (R-TX) 2001-2009
Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL)/Sen. Evan Bayh (D-IN) 2009-2013
VP. George W. Bush (R-TX)/Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) 2013-2017
VP. Evan Bayh (D-IN)/Sec. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) 2017-2025
Sen. Justin Amash (R-MI)/Sen. Brian Sandoval (R-NV) 2025-2033

[MadmanMotley]

George Wallace/Happy Chandler 1969-1973
George Romney/Ronald Reagan 1973-1977
Edward Kennedy/Frank Church 1977-1981
Ronald Reagan/Paul Laxalt 1981
Paul Laxalt/Howard Baker 1981-1989
Howard Baker/Robert Dole 1989-1997
William Clinton/John Kerry 1997-2003
John Kerry/Tom Daschle 2003-2009
Larry Pressler/Elizabeth Dole 2009-2017

[MadmanMotley]

Al Gore (D-TN)/Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) 2001-2005
John McCain (R-AZ)/Joe Lieberman (I-CT) 2005-2009
Al Gore (D-TN)/Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) 2009-2013
Larry Pressler (I-SD)/Buddy Roemer (I-LA) 2013-2017
Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Barack Obama (D-IL) 2017-2021
Rand Paul (R-KY)/Larry Hogan (R-MD) 2021-2029

[MadmanMotley]

2000: Bush opts out
Dan Quayle (R-IN)/Elizabeth Dole (R-NC) 2001-2005
John Kerry (D-MA)/Hillary Clinton (D-NY) 2005-2009
Michael Steele (R-MD)/Orrin Hatch (R-UT) 2009-2017
Brian Schweitzer (D-MT)/Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) 2017-2021
Justin Amash (R-MI)/George P. Bush (R-TX) 2021-2029

Defeated Tickets:
2000: Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Lieberman (I-CT)
2004: Dan Quayle (R-IN)/Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)
2008: John Kerry (D-MA)/Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
2012: Jerry Brown (D-CA)/Bill Nelson (D-FL)
2016: Chris Cristie (R-NJ)/Scott Walker (R-WI)
2020: Brian Schweitzer (D-MT)/Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)
2024: Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)/Tim Kaine (D-VA)

[MadmanMotley]

Madam President:

Sen. Margaret Chase Smith (R-ME)/Gov. Ronald Reagan (R-CA) 1969-1977
VP. Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Sen. Bob Dole (R-KS) 1977-1981
Sen. Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)/Gov. Dixy Lee Ray (D-WA) 1981-1989
Sen. Nancy Kassebaum (R-KS)/Sen. Richard Lugar (R-IN) 1989-1997
Gov. Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Carol Moseley Braun (D-IL)* 1997-2001
SoS. Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)/Sen. Barry Goldwater Jr. (R-CA) 2001-2005
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Sen. John Edwards (D-NC)* 2005-2009
VP. Barry Goldwater Jr. (R-CA)/Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) 2009-2017
Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL)/Sen. Kristen Gillibrand (D-NY) 2017-2021
Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC)/Gov. Charlie Baker (R-MA) 2021-

*Resigned

[MadmanMotley]

George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 1989-1993
Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Al Gore (D-TN) 1993-2001
Jeb Bush (R-FL)/John McCain (R-AZ) 2001-2009
Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Evan Bayh (D-IN) 2009-2017
George W. Bush (R-TX)/Tim Scott (R-SC) 2017-2021
Barack Obama (D-IL)/Maggie Hassan (D-NH) 2021-2029
Rand Paul (R-KY)/Larry Hogan (R-MD) 2029-2037 (first time since Hoover that a Republican ticket wins without a Bush or a Nixon on the ticket)