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RosettaStoned
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E: 6.45, S: -5.91

« on: January 21, 2009, 02:09:51 AM »

Hubert Humphrey (1969-1977)
Ronald Reagan (1977-1985)
Walter Mondale (1985-1993)
Robert Dole (1993-2001)
Albert Gore (2001-2009)
John McCain (2009-  )
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E: 6.45, S: -5.91

« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2009, 07:47:13 PM »
« Edited: February 15, 2009, 07:54:04 PM by Dmitry Pavlov »

Thomas Dewey (1949-1957)
Earl Warren (1957-1961)
Stuart Symington (1961-1969)
George Romney (1969-1977)
Edmund Muskie (1977-1981)
Robert Dole (1981-1989)
Jack Kemp (1989-1993)
Gary Hart (1993-2001)
John McCain (2001-2009)
John Kerry (2009-
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RosettaStoned
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E: 6.45, S: -5.91

« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2009, 02:38:06 PM »

Thomas Dewey (1945-1953)
Estes Kefauver (1953-1961)
Nelson Rockefeller (1961-1969)
Eugene McCarthy (1969-1977)
William Scranton (1977-1981)
Jerry Brown (1981-1989)
Lloyd Bentsen (1989-1993)
Pete Wilson (1993-2001)
Howard Dean (2001-2009)
Mitt Romney  (2009-
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RosettaStoned
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E: 6.45, S: -5.91

« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2009, 06:19:47 PM »

Thomas Dewey (1945-1953)
Estes Kefauver (1953-1961)
Nelson Rockefeller (1961-1969)
Eugene McCarthy (1969-1977)
William Scranton (1977-1981)
Jerry Brown (1981-1989)
Lloyd Bentsen (1989-1993)
Pete Wilson (1993-2001)
Howard Dean (2001-2009)
Mitt Romney  (2009-


The Death of Conservatism or, actually, no conservatism.

Yeah thats what I was trying to make with that list; a world without conservatism
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RosettaStoned
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E: 6.45, S: -5.91

« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2009, 06:27:39 PM »

Thomas Dewey (1945-1953)
Estes Kefauver (1953-1961)
Nelson Rockefeller (1961-1969)
Eugene McCarthy (1969-1977)
William Scranton (1977-1981)
Jerry Brown (1981-1989)
Lloyd Bentsen (1989-1993)
Pete Wilson (1993-2001)
Howard Dean (2001-2009)
Mitt Romney  (2009-


The Death of Conservatism or, actually, no conservatism.

Yeah thats what I was trying to make with that list; a world without conservatism

The only disappointy thing about is Lloyd Bentsen being defeated in 1992, as he is one of my fav. senators. Pretty good list, though.

Thanks! Might I ask why hes one of your favorites?
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RosettaStoned
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E: 6.45, S: -5.91

« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2009, 11:57:17 PM »

POD RFK survives

Robert Kennedy (1969-1977)
Ronald Reagan (1977-1985)
Robert Dole (1985-1989)
Edward Kennedy (1989-1997)
Albert Gore (1997-2001)
John McCain (2001-2009)
Barack Obama (2009-
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RosettaStoned
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E: 6.45, S: -5.91

« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2009, 12:51:07 AM »

POD RFK survives

Robert Kennedy (1969-1977)
Ronald Reagan (1977-1985)
Robert Dole (1985-1989)
Edward Kennedy (1989-1997)
Albert Gore (1997-2001)
John McCain (2001-2009)
Barack Obama (2009-

I'm guessing Chappaquiddick never happened in this TL.

Thats right, Senator Kennedy was visiting his brother, the President that night in this TL.
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RosettaStoned
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E: 6.45, S: -5.91

« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2009, 01:42:28 AM »

POD TR wins in 1912...

Theodore Roosevelt (P) 1913-1921
Hiram Johnson (P) 1921-1925
Al Smith (D) 1925-1933
Franklin Roosevelt (P) 1933-1941
Henry Wallace (P) 1941-1945
Robert Taft (D) 1945-1953
Thomas Dewey (D) 1953-1957
Lyndon Johnson (P) 1957-1961
Barry Goldwater (D) 1961-1969
Robert Kennedy (P) 1969-1977
Henry Jackson (D) 1977-1981
Walter Mondale (P) 1981-1985
Jack Kemp (D) 1985-1993
Pete Wilson (D) 1993-2001
Al Gore (P) 2001-2009
Barack Obama (P) 2009-




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RosettaStoned
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E: 6.45, S: -5.91

« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2009, 11:32:20 PM »

FDR Dies in 1944

32. Franklin Delano Roosevelt (D-NY) (1933-1944)
33. Henry Wallace (D-IA) (1944-1945)

34. Thomas Dewey (R-NY) (1945-1953)
35. John Bricker (R-OH) (1953-1957)

36. Claude Pepper (D-FL) (1957-1963)
37. John F. Kennedy (D-MA) (1963-1969)

38. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) (1969-1977)
39. Robert F. Kennedy (D-MA) (1977-1985)
40. Jim Wright (D-TX) (1985-1989)

41. Jack Kemp (R-NY) (1989-1997)
42. Albert Gore, Jr. (D-TN) (1997-2005)
43. John McCain (R-AZ) (2005-2013)

33. After FDR suffered a fatal heart attack on September 7, 1944, Vice President Wallace assumed the Presidency. However, the public perception of Wallace as too far to the left and sympathetic to the USSR, Governor Dewey gained support even among the New Dealers and a key endorsement from Frances Perkins, who resigned as Secretary of Labor after Roosevelt's death.

34. As soon after he was sworn in to office, President Dewey learned for the first time of the existence of the Manhattan Project. After meeting with Prime Minister Churchill and General Dwight Eisenhower, Dewey put George Patton in charge of leading the drive to Berlin shortly after Mussolini was deposed from power. Even though this move infuriated Stalin, Dewey wanted to win the war and bring the troops back home. Allied tanks reached Berlin on May 6, 1945 beating out the Russian Red Army by two days. This resulted in a united Germany emerging in 1948. President Dewey gave the order to drop the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki on July 1-2. Emperor Hirohito announced Japan's surrender on July 3. World War II was over and the July 4th celebrations would become the greatest so far in history. In Italy, King Victor Emmanuel III abdicated in favor of his son, Crown Prince Umberto, after he was urged to do so by Dewey. In a close vote, the Italians retained the monarchy in a plebiscite. Secretary of State Arthur Vandenberg pushed a plan through Congress to fund post-war reconcstruction of Europe. Other domestic measures passed included funding for housing construction, the Civil Rights Act of 1947 and the Taft-Hartley Labor Relations Act, despite opposition from labor unions. In the first national elections since the war, pro-USSR parties failed to win in Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Rumania, Bulgaria and Greece. However, Communists would hold power in Albania and Yugoslavia. Dewey also provided financial assistance to Chiang Kai-Shek that enabled the Kuomintang to defeat the Communists in the Chinese Civil War. The Communists would also taste defeat in Korea and Vietnam.

35. Riding Dewey's popularity in 1952, Vice President John Bricker and his running mate Senator Earl Warren of California defeated the Democratic ticket of Averell Harriman and Georgia Governor Herman Talmadge. Being more conservative than his predecessor, President Bricker's attempts to eliminate four Cabinet posts, Social Security and the Tennessee Valley Authority met with defeat in Congress although the Republicans controlled both houses from 1950-1954. Vice President Warren refused to run for reelection in 1956 and was replaced on the ticket by Senator Karl Mundt of South Dakota. The Democrats nominated Senator Claude Pepper for President and 39 year old Senator John F. Kennedy for Vice President.

36.  President Pepper would preside over a prosperous economy and would navigate through the Suez Crisis and a CIA-sponsored coup that overthrew Albania's Stalinist dictator Enver Hoxha and led to democracy in that country. Pepper would nominate former Vice President Earl Warren to the Supreme Court and enjoy re-election over Nelson Rockefeller in 1960. But tragedy would strike when President Pepper was assassinated in Dallas on November 22, 1963 by Lee Harvey Oswald.

37. Coming into office, President Kennedy would use Pepper's memory to push through legislation creating Medicare, open housing, cut capital gains taxes and strengthen consumer protections. After a Constitutional Amendment was ratified allowing the President to fill a vacancy in the Vice Presidency, Kennedy selected Congressman Wilbur Mills of Arkansas for Vice President. In 1964, Kennedy defeated Barry Goldwater in a landslide. In 1968, Kennedy declined to seek re-election in the wake of health problems and rumors of extramarital affairs.

38. With the country weary of the Democrats 12 years in the White House, the last thing the Democrats needed was another scandal when its Presidential nominee, Vice President Wilbur Mills was involved in a car accident while drinking. Also found in the car was burlesque dancer Fanny Foxe, a woman not his wife. Mills was forced to resign as the Democratic nominee. He was replaced by his running mate, Senator Hubert Humphrey. Rockefeller cruised to an easy victory that November.

39. Elected to the Senate in 1958 to succeed his brother who was elected Vice President, Bobby Kennedy became Senate Majority Leader in 1970 defeating Lyndon Johnson. Bobby served in that position until stepping down in 1975. Kennedy and his running mate, Congressman Jim Wright of Texas won comfortably over the Republican ticket of Vice President Gerald Ford and his running mate, Ohio Governor Jim Rhodes.

40. President Wright's single term in office was marked by a scandal in which he pressured lobbyists to purchase copies of his autobiography in order to get around campaign contribution laws. Wright survived impeachment but the Republicans used the issue to sweep the 1986 Congressional elections. Wright chose not to run for reelection in 1988.

41. Senator Jack Kemp had an easy path to the GOP nomination. He selected former Delaware Governor Pete du Pont as his running mate. Senator Paul Simon never had a chance against Kemp. However, a recession in Kemp's second term resulted in Democrats sweeping the 1994 elections. Senator Gore and his running mate Joe Biden would easily defeat the du Pont/Lugar ticket in 1996.


Thats a really good list. Good job!
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RosettaStoned
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Political Matrix
E: 6.45, S: -5.91

« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2009, 07:27:05 PM »
« Edited: April 03, 2009, 04:22:26 PM by RosettaStoned »

One Six-Year Term
Franklin Roosevelt (D-NY) (1933-1939)
Harry Truman (D-MO) (1939-1945)
Thomas Dewey (R-NY) (1945-1951)
Dwight Eisenhower (R-NY) (1951-1957)
Richard Nixon (R-CA) (1957-1963)
Lyndon Johnson (D-TX) (1963-1969)
Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) (1969-1975)
Gerald Ford (R-MI) (1975-1981)
Ronald Reagan (R-CA) (1981-1987)
Walter Mondale (D-MN) (1987-1993)
Robert Dole (R-KS) (1993-1999)
John McCain (R-AZ) (1999-2005)
John Kerry (D-MA) (2005-

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E: 6.45, S: -5.91

« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2009, 03:43:12 PM »

Reagan wins in '76


Ronald Reagan (R-CA) (1977-1985)
Richard Schweiker (R-PA) (1985-1989)
Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) (1989-1997)
Albert Gore (D-TN) (1997-2001)
John McCain (R-AZ) (2001-2009)
Barack Obama (D-IL) (2009-
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E: 6.45, S: -5.91

« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2009, 11:30:53 PM »

FDR follows the two- term tradition
POD FDR does not run for a third term in 1940.
Cordell Hull (D-TN) (1941-1949)
Claude Pepper (D-FL) (1949-1953)
Thomas Dewey (R-NY) (1953-1961)
Edmund "Pat" Brown (D-CA) (1961-1969)
Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) (1969-1977)
Reubin Askew (D-FL) (1977-1981)
Howard Baker (R-TN) (1981-1989) (
Phil Crane (R-IL) (1989-1993)
Jerry Brown (D-CA) (1993-2001)
Orrin Hatch (R-UT) (2001-2009)
Douglas Wilder (D-VA) (2009-
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E: 6.45, S: -5.91

« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2009, 01:27:55 PM »

Jerry Brown (D-CA) (1977-1981)
Bob Dole (R-KS) (1981-1989)
Jack Kemp (R-NY) (1989-1993)
Al Gore (D-TN) (1993-2001)
John McCain (R-AZ) (2001-2009)
Joe Biden (D-DE) (2009-
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E: 6.45, S: -5.91

« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2009, 03:50:12 PM »

Jerry Brown (D-CA) (1977-1981)
Bob Dole (R-KS) (1981-1989)
Jack Kemp (R-NY) (1989-1993)
Al Gore (D-TN) (1993-2001)
John McCain (R-AZ) (2001-2009)
Joe Biden (D-DE) (2009-

What is the POD?


There isnt one. Thats just for fun.
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E: 6.45, S: -5.91

« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2009, 12:23:35 PM »

POD Nixon wins in 1960.

Richard Nixon (R-CA) (1961-1969)
Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) (1969-1977)
Edmund Muskie (D-ME) (1977-1981)
George H.W. Bush (R-TX) (1981-1989)
Phil Crane (R-IL) (1989-1993)
Bill Clinton (D-AR) (1993-2001)
George W. Bush (R-TX) (2001-2009)
Barack Obama (D-IL) (2009-
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E: 6.45, S: -5.91

« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2009, 02:44:47 AM »

The Death of Conservatism

POD FDR dies in 1943.

Franklin Roosevelt (D-NY) (1933-1943)
Henry Wallace (D-IA) (1943-1945)
Thomas Dewey (R-NY) (1945-1953)
John Bricker (R-OH) (1953-1957)
Adlai Stevenson (D-IL) (1957-1965)
Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) (1965-1973)
John Kennedy (D-MA) (1973-1981)
Robert Dole (R-KS) (1981-1989)
Jack Kemp (R-NY) (1989-1993)
Mario Cuomo (D-NY) (1993-2001)
Pete Wilson (R-CA) (2001-2009)
John Edwards (D-NC) (2009-

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E: 6.45, S: -5.91

« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2009, 11:41:28 AM »

Give 'em hell Jerry!

POD Ford wins in 1976.

Gerald Ford (R-MI) (1974-1981)
Edward "Ted" Kennedy (D-MA) (1981)*
Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) (1981-1989)
Gary Hart (D-CO) (1989-1993)
Pete Wilson (R-CA) (1993-2001)
Albert Gore (D-TN) (2001=2009)
Willard "Mitt" Romney (R-MA) (2009-

* Assassinated by John Hinckley Jr.  on March 30th, 1981.

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E: 6.45, S: -5.91

« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2009, 01:55:58 PM »

Al Gore (D-TN) (2001-2005)
John McCain (R-AZ) (2005-2009)

Hillary Clinton (D-NY) (2009-
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E: 6.45, S: -5.91

« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2009, 08:28:31 PM »

The Gipper Goes Down

POD: President Reagan is assassinated on March 30th, 1981.

40. Ronald Reagan (R-CA) (1981)
41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX) (1981-1989)
42. Mario Cuomo (D-NY)  (1989-1997)
43. Robert Dole (R-KS) (1997-2001)*
44. Jack Kemp (R-NY) (2001-2009)
45. Barack Obama (D-IL) (2009-present

* Killed in a terrorist attack on the White House, September 11th, 2001.
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E: 6.45, S: -5.91

« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2009, 01:22:13 PM »

Watchmen Timeline

POD: The USA is victorious in Vietnam.

Richard M. Nixon (R-NY) (1969-1989)
Robert Redford (D-CA) (1989-2001)
John McCain (R-AZ) (2001-2009)
Barack Obama (D-IL) (2009-present)
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E: 6.45, S: -5.91

« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2009, 10:30:23 PM »

Watchmen Timeline

POD: The USA is victorious in Vietnam.

Richard M. Nixon (R-NY) (1969-1989)
Robert Redford (D-CA) (1989-2001)
John McCain (R-AZ) (2001-2009)
Barack Obama (D-IL) (2009-present)

I don't know that Redford would have served that long.  After having one person be President for 20 years people in the US in Watchmen may have been wary of another long-serving president.

Things may also depend on whether or not Rorschach's journal was published, and if so was it believed or dismissed as a hoax. 

Let's assume Rorschach's journal is published and verified.  Ozymandias' plan to trick the world into peace surprisingly does not completely unravel.  The closeness between east and west cools but not to the point of nuclear war. 

Richard M. Nixon (R-CA)  (1969-1987)  1
Gerald Ford (R-MI)  (1987-1989)

Robert Redford (D-CA)  (1989-1995)  2
Hillary Clinton (D-AR)  (1995-2001) 3

Sam Hollis (R-CO)  (2001-2007)  4
Jon Stewart (D-NY)  (2007-present)  5

1 - dies in the middle of a heart operation
2 - the first president to serve under the new term limits of one single 6-year term
3 - the first female president; once the first lady of Arkansas, she ran for and won the Senate while her husband was still in office
4 - once the costumed hero known as Nite Owl, Dan Dreiberg went into hiding and was elected Governor of Colorado.  Unknown to all, his election was orchestrated by Dr. Manhattan, who remained hidden so his presence would not influence the decisions of mankind.  However, in his desire to make up for the influence he did have during the cold war years, he subtly does what he can to make the world a better place.  In essence, the puppet who can see the strings has become a benevolent puppet master.  Following the prevention of the mass hijackings on September 11, President Hollis decided to take the fight to those who masterminded the plan.  Al Qaeda was broken and Osama Bin Laden killed in the process. 
5 - a one-time actor and comedian who briefly turned serious journalist before becoming a senator and eventually president.


Awesome list! Cheesy
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E: 6.45, S: -5.91

« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2010, 06:38:42 PM »

"Give 'em Hell Hubie!"

POD: Humphrey defeats Nixon

#37: Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN) (1969-1973)
#38: Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA) (1973-1981)
#39: Richard S. Schweiker (R-PA) (1981-1985)
#40: Gary W. Hart (D-CO) (1985-1993)
#41: Peter B. Wilson (R-CA) (1993-2001)
#42: Albert A. Gore (D-TN) (2001)*
#43: John F. Kerry (D-MA) (2001-2009)
#44: John S. McCain (R-AZ) (2009-present)

* Killed when Flight 93 crashed into the White House on September 11th, 2001.

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E: 6.45, S: -5.91

« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2010, 01:32:51 AM »

"Give 'em Hell Hubie!"

POD: Humphrey defeats Nixon

#37: Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN) (1969-1973)
#38: Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA) (1973-1981)
#39: Richard S. Schweiker (R-PA) (1981-1985)
#40: Gary W. Hart (D-CO) (1985-1993)
#41: Peter B. Wilson (R-CA) (1993-2001)
#42: Albert A. Gore (D-TN) (2001)*
#43: John F. Kerry (D-MA) (2001-2009)
#44: John S. McCain (R-AZ) (2009-present)

* Killed when Flight 93 crashed into the White House on September 11th, 2001.



I don't see how a plane crashing into the White House would kill Gore, who would have been evacuated, the plane shot down, or at the very least he would have gone into the bunker.

If Flight 93 was the first attack to go down, he would have been killed.
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E: 6.45, S: -5.91

« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2011, 04:30:10 AM »
« Edited: February 08, 2011, 04:55:20 AM by RosettaStoned »

The Gipper Goes Down

POD: Ronald Reagan dies in a tragic plane crash on October 27th, 1979.

George H.W. Bush (R-TX) (1981-1987)*
Phil M. Crane (R-IL) (1987-1989)
Michael S. Dukakis (D-MA) (1989-1991)*
Lloyd M. Bentsen (D-TX) (1991-1997)
Robert J. Dole (R-KS) (1997-2001)*
Jack F. Kemp (R-NY) (2001-2005)
John F. Kerry (D-MA) (2005-2009)
John S. McCain (R-AZ) (2009- present

* Resigns hours before his scheduled impeachment due to the Iran-Contra Affair, which he was directly responsible for.

* Assassinated by an Iraqi agent loyal to the Ba'ath Party.

*Killed in a terrorist attack on the White House.
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E: 6.45, S: -5.91

« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2011, 02:51:10 PM »

#41 Michael S. Dukakis (D-MA) (1989-1993)
#42 Robert J. Dole (R-KS) (1993-2001)
#43 Jack F. Kemp (R-NY) (2001-2009)
#44 Barack H. Obama (D-IL) (2009-present)
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