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« on: January 08, 2013, 07:50:42 PM »
My Hackish List of Presidents

Starting with 1960, each election is won by the same party as IOTL, but I get to choose the candidates.

35. John F. Kennedy (D-MA)/ Hubert H. Humphrey  (D-MN): 1961-1969
36. Berry Goldwater (R-AZ)/ Margaret Chase Smith (R-ME): 1969-1977
37. Henry M. Jackson (D-WA)/ Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY): 1977-1981
38. Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/ Jack Kemp (R-NY): 1981-1989
39. Jack Kemp (R-NY)/ Barry Goldwater Jr. (R-CA): 1989-1993
40. Paul Tsongas (D-MA)*/ Bill Clinton (D-AR): 1993-1997
41. Bill Clinton (D-AR)/ Joe Lieberman (D-CT): 1997-2001
42. Lamar Alexander (R-TN)/ Colin Powell (R-NY): 2001-2009
43. Wesley Clark (D-IL)/ Bill Richardson (D-NM): 2009-2017


*Died in office.
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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2014, 08:40:13 PM »
Quote from: Senator Goldwater on January 08, 2013, 07:50:42 PM
My Hackish List of Presidents

Starting with 1960, each election is won by the same party as IOTL, but I get to choose the candidates.

35. John F. Kennedy (D-MA)/ Hubert H. Humphrey  (D-MN): 1961-1969
36. Berry Goldwater (R-AZ)/ Margaret Chase Smith (R-ME): 1969-1977
37. Henry M. Jackson (D-WA)/ Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY): 1977-1981
38. Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/ Jack Kemp (R-NY): 1981-1989
39. Jack Kemp (R-NY)/ Barry Goldwater Jr. (R-CA): 1989-1993
40. Paul Tsongas (D-MA)*/ Bill Clinton (D-AR): 1993-1997
41. Bill Clinton (D-AR)/ Joe Lieberman (D-CT): 1997-2001
42. Lamar Alexander (R-TN)/ Colin Powell (R-NY): 2001-2009
43. Wesley Clark (D-IL)/ Bill Richardson (D-NM): 2009-2017


*Died in office.




I'll update this list with a couple of changes:

35. John F. Kennedy (D-MA)/ Stuart Symington  (D-MO): 1961-1969
36. Berry Goldwater (R-AZ)/ Margaret Chase Smith (R-ME): 1969-1977
37. Henry M. Jackson (D-WA)/ Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY): 1977-1981
38. Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/ Jack Kemp (R-NY): 1981-1989
39. Jack Kemp (R-NY)/ Barry Goldwater Jr. (R-CA): 1989-1993
40. Paul Tsongas* (D-MA)/ Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX): 1993-1997
41. Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)/ Bill Clinton (D-AR): 1997-2001
42. Shirley Temple Black (R-CA)/ Colin Powell (R-NY): 2001-2009
43. Wesley Clark (D-IL)/ Bill Richardson (D-NM): 2009-2017


*Died in office.
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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2014, 08:33:32 PM »
Quote from: MadmanMotley on April 25, 2014, 08:22:53 PM
CSA wins independence:

USA:
Abraham Lincoln (R-IL)/Hannibal Hamlin (R-ME) 1861-1881
James G. Blaine (R-ME)/Chester A. Arthur (R-NY) 1881-1889
Grover Cleveland (U-NY)/Allen G. Thurman (U-OH) 1889-1893
Robert Todd Lincoln (R-IL)/William McKinley (R-OH) 1893-1897
Grover Cleveland (U-NY)/Adlai Stevenson I(U-IL) 1897-1901
Robert Todd Lincoln (R-IL)/Henry Cabot Lodge (R-MA) 1901-1909
Charles Fairbanks (R-IN)/Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY)* 1909-1921
Thomas J. Walsh (PU-MT)/James Cox (U-OH) 1921-1933
James Watson (R-IN)/Hiram Johnson (PR-CA)* 1933-1949
Robert Taft (R-OH)/Harold Stassen (R-MN) 1949-1961
Adlai Stevenson II (U-IL)*/John Kennedy (U-MA) 1961-1965
John Kennedy (U-MA)/Hubert Humphrey (PU-MN) 1965-1973
George Romney (R-MI)/Edward Brooke (PR-MA) 1973-1981
Jerry Brown (U-CA)/Robert Kennedy (U-MA) 1981-1989
Paul Laxalt (R-NV)/Bob Dole (R-KS) 1989-2001
Hillary Rodham (U-NY)/Evan Bayh (U-IN) 2001-2009
Mitt Romney (R-MI)/Colin Powell (R-NY) 2009-2017

*Died in office
After the separation of USA and CSA, the northern democrats did not want the stigma of the name democrat, and changed their party name to Union.
There were Progressive wings of each party, hence the PU or PR.

CSA to come later.

Why is Lincoln so popular ITTL? It doesn't really make sense for a President who lost a war to be reelected four times...
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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2016, 05:19:30 PM »
Quote from: SunriseAroundTheWorld on March 27, 2016, 12:19:19 AM
Post-Trump Conservative Movement:
44th President: Barack Obama, D-IL/Joe Biden, D-DE: 2009-2017
45th President: Hillary R. Clinton, D-NY/Julian Castro, D-TX: 2017-2025
46th President: Nikki Haley, UCA-SC/Ben Sasse, UCA-NE: 2025-Current*


* UCA = United Conservative Alliance (Libertarian-Conservative Alliance + Civic Conservative Alliance)
Losing Election Tickets:
2016: Donald J. Trump (NY)-Ben Carson (MD) (Republican Party) (Party folds in 2017)
2020: Rand Paul (KY)-Justin Amash (MI) (Libertarian-Conservative Alliance); Ben Sasse (NE)-Marco Rubio (FL) (Civic Conservative Alliance); Sarah Palin (AK)-Louie Gohmert (TX) (American Nationalist Coalition)
2024: Cory Booker (NJ)-Tulsi Gabbard (HI); Pam Bondi (FL)-Tim Huelskamp (KS) (American Nationalist Coalition)

I assume that Trump would have to lose in a MASSIVE landslide and take a bunch of down ballot offices with him for this to even be slightly plausible.
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2016, 07:56:42 PM »
Quote from: Battenberg on April 10, 2016, 02:27:53 PM
All an Act

1981-1989: Ronald Reagen (Republican-California)
1989-1997: Clint Eastwood (Republican-California)
1997-2001: George Takei (Democratic-California)
2001-2005: Cybil Sheppard (Unity-Tennessee)
2005-2013: Alec Baldwin (Democratic-New York)
2013-: Linda McMahon (Republican-Connecticut)

What is the unity party and how did it win in 2000?
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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2016, 01:47:43 PM »
(This is just a random unrealistic scenario/though experiment I had about who would win each election if the running mates were the presidential candidates. Involves a large amount of assassinations and stuff in order to justify why certain winning candidates don't run for reelection.)

The Tournament of Second Bananas

Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX/Hubert Humphrey (D-MN): 1961-1962[1]
Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Vacant: 1962-1965
Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Edmund Muskie (D-ME): 1965-1969
Spiro Agnew (R-MD)/Bob Dole (R-KS): 1969-1973[2]
Bob Dole (R-KS)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX): 1973-1981
Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY): 1981-1981[3]
Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY)/Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX): 1981-1989
Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)/Al Gore (D-TN): 1989-1991[4]
Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Lieberman (D-CT): 1991-2001
Dick Cheney(R-WY)/John McCain(R-AZ): 2001-2009
Joe Biden (D-DE)/Hillary Clinton(D-NY): 2009-2017

[1]Assassinated becasue... reasons... Huh
[2]Resigns due to the same tax scandals as IRL
[3]Assassinated by John Hinckley Jr
[4]Another lazily written assassination

(The conclusion I've come to in this, is that Republican running mates usually suck. Tongue)
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2016, 08:00:07 PM »
Quote from: bagelman on April 16, 2016, 08:12:17 PM
Quote from: Goldwater on April 14, 2016, 01:47:43 PM
(This is just a random unrealistic scenario/though experiment I had about who would win each election if the running mates were the presidential candidates. Involves a large amount of assassinations and stuff in order to justify why certain winning candidates don't run for reelection.)

The Tournament of Second Bananas

Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX/Hubert Humphrey (D-MN): 1961-1962[1]
Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Vacant: 1962-1965
Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Edmund Muskie (D-ME): 1965-1969
Spiro Agnew (R-MD)/Bob Dole (R-KS): 1969-1973[2]
Bob Dole (R-KS)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX): 1973-1981
Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY): 1981-1981[3]
Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY)/Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX): 1981-1989
Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)/Al Gore (D-TN): 1989-1991[4]
Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Lieberman (D-CT): 1991-2001
Dick Cheney(R-WY)/John McCain(R-AZ): 2001-2009
Joe Biden (D-DE)/Hillary Clinton(D-NY): 2009-2017

[1]Assassinated becasue... reasons... Huh
[2]Resigns due to the same tax scandals as IRL
[3]Assassinated by John Hinckley Jr
[4]Another lazily written assassination

(The conclusion I've come to in this, is that Republican running mates usually suck. Tongue)

Bush would win in 1984

Yeah, you're probably right, but that would require an excuse for why he isn't renominated in 1988. Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2016, 08:06:12 PM »
Quote from: ExtremeRepublican on April 17, 2016, 08:03:32 PM
Quote from: JCL+GeologistJuly10Wedding on April 17, 2016, 12:09:37 PM
Quote from: Lt. Governor Smith (Labor-MA) on April 17, 2016, 08:21:12 AM
Quote from: JCL+GeologistJuly10Wedding on April 17, 2016, 12:00:33 AM
Quote from: bagelman on April 16, 2016, 08:12:17 PM
Quote from: Goldwater on April 14, 2016, 01:47:43 PM
(This is just a random unrealistic scenario/though experiment I had about who would win each election if the running mates were the presidential candidates. Involves a large amount of assassinations and stuff in order to justify why certain winning candidates don't run for reelection.)

The Tournament of Second Bananas

Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX/Hubert Humphrey (D-MN): 1961-1962[1]
Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Vacant: 1962-1965
Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Edmund Muskie (D-ME): 1965-1969
Spiro Agnew (R-MD)/Bob Dole (R-KS): 1969-1973[2]
Bob Dole (R-KS)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX): 1973-1981
Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY): 1981-1981[3]
Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY)/Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX): 1981-1989
Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)/Al Gore (D-TN): 1989-1991[4]
Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Lieberman (D-CT): 1991-2001
Dick Cheney(R-WY)/John McCain(R-AZ): 2001-2009
Joe Biden (D-DE)/Hillary Clinton(D-NY): 2009-2017

[1]Assassinated becasue... reasons... Huh
[2]Resigns due to the same tax scandals as IRL
[3]Assassinated by John Hinckley Jr
[4]Another lazily written assassination

(The conclusion I've come to in this, is that Republican running mates usually suck. Tongue)

Bush would win in 1984


Quayle in 1988 and 1992 also

You can't be serious.

Yup I am serious.

I think Ryan would have beaten Biden in 2012

I wasn't sure about 2012, but unless I'm misremembering Biden did better in the debates, so I went with him.
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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2016, 12:50:31 AM »
Quote from: JCL+GeologistJuly10Wedding on April 19, 2016, 10:43:51 PM
Quote from: Oldiesfreak1854 on April 19, 2016, 08:05:30 PM
Vice Presidents
32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY): March 4, 1933-April 12, 19451
33. Harry S Truman (D-MO): April 12, 1945-January 20, 1949
34. Thomas E. Dewey (R-NY): January 20, 1949-January 20, 1957
35. Harold E. Stassen (R-MN): January 20, 1957-January 20, 1965
36. John F. Kennedy (D-MA): January 20, 1965-January 20, 1973
37. Richard M. Nixon (R-CA): January 20, 1973-January 20, 1981
41. Walter Mondale (D-MN): January 20, 1981-January 20, 1989
42. George H.W. Bush (R-TX): January 20, 1989-January 20, 1997
43. Jack Kemp (R-NY): January 20, 1997-January 20, 2005
44. Albert "Al" Gore Jr. (D-TN): January 20, 2005-January 20, 2013
45. John Kasich (R-OH): January 20, 2013-present

Vice Presidents
32. John N. Garner (D-TX): March 4, 1933-January 20, 1941
33. Henry A. Wallace (D-IA): January 20, 1941-January 20, 1945
34. Harry S Truman (D-MO): January 20, 1945-April 12, 1945
Office vacant April 12, 1945-January 20, 1949
35. Earl Warren (R-CA): January 20, 1949-October 4, 19532
Office vacant October 4, 1953-February 13, 1954
36. Harold E. Stassen (R-MN): February 13, 1954-January 20, 1957
37.
38. Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN): January 20, 1965-January 20, 1973
39. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY): January 20, 1973-January 26, 19791
Office vacant January 26, 1979-March 3, 1979
40. George Romney (R-MI): March 3, 1979-January 20, 1981
41. Gary Hart (D-CO): January 20, 1981-January 20, 1989
42. Jack Kemp (R-NY): January 20, 1989-January 20, 1997
43. Bob Dole (R-KS): January 20, 1997-January 20, 2005
44. Bob Kerrey (D-NE): January 20, 2005-January 20, 2013
45. Paul Ryan (R-WI): January 20, 2013-present


1Died in office of natural causes
2Resigned to become Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, and was sworn in one day later.


Only ones I like here.... JFK and Kemp. I see no anti-establishment conservatives besides the two of them. Looks like no Reagan Revolution, no rise of evangelicals,  left wing of GOP is stronger but conservatives have no place to go.

Kasich/Ryan is a pretty conservative ticket.
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« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2016, 02:54:09 PM »
Quote from: Golfman76 on May 05, 2016, 04:32:59 PM
Every Conservative's Dream:

29. J. Calvin Coolidge (Republican), 1921-1929
30. John N. Garner (Democratic), 1929-1937
31. Robert A. Taft (Republican), 1937-1945
32. Arthur Vandenburg (Republican), 1945-1953
33. Richard M. Nixon (Republican), 1953-1961
34. Barry M. Goldwater (Republican), 1961-1969
35. Ronald W. Reagan (Republican), 1969-1977
36. Bob Dole (Republican), 1977-1985
37. George H.W Bush (Republican), 1985-1993
38. Jack F. Kemp (Republican), 1993-2001
39. George W. Bush (Republican), 2001-2009
40. John S. McCain III (Republican), 2009-2017

Why the random Democrat? Someone to blame the great depression on?
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« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2016, 11:38:49 AM »
Quote from: DKrol on May 21, 2016, 02:35:30 PM
A More Free America

42. Businessman H. Ross Perot/Governor William F. Weld: 1993-1997
43. Vice President William F. Weld/Businessman Donald J. Trump: 1997-2001
44. Former Governor William J. Clinton/Senate Minority Whip Albert A. Gore: 2001-2005
45. Mayor Rudolph W.L. Giuliani/Governor John E. Bush: 2005-2009
46. Senator Barack H. Obama/Senator John H. Kerry: 2009-2017
47. Former Governor Gary E. Johnson/Governor William F. Weld: 2017-2021
47. Vice President William F. Weld/ Senator Robert C. Sarvis: 2021-2025

I find it interesting that a "more free" America currently has the same president as real life.
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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2016, 12:49:13 AM »
Quote from: DKrol on May 22, 2016, 03:57:26 PM
Quote from: Goldwater on May 22, 2016, 11:38:49 AM
Quote from: DKrol on May 21, 2016, 02:35:30 PM
A More Free America

42. Businessman H. Ross Perot/Governor William F. Weld: 1993-1997
43. Vice President William F. Weld/Businessman Donald J. Trump: 1997-2001
44. Former Governor William J. Clinton/Senate Minority Whip Albert A. Gore: 2001-2005
45. Mayor Rudolph W.L. Giuliani/Governor John E. Bush: 2005-2009
46. Senator Barack H. Obama/Senator John H. Kerry: 2009-2017
47. Former Governor Gary E. Johnson/Governor William F. Weld: 2017-2021
47. Vice President William F. Weld/ Senator Robert C. Sarvis: 2021-2025

I find it interesting that a "more free" America currently has the same president as real life.

"More free" was an allusion to the Libertarian Party becoming a viable third-party option, not a commentary on the current level of freedom allowed by Barack Obama.

So Ross Perot ran as a Libertarian ITTL?
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« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2016, 02:36:11 PM »
Quote from: Cathcon on August 07, 2016, 10:44:42 PM
George H. W. Bush (Republican-Texas)/Paul Laxalt (Republican-Nevada) 1981-1989
James Traficant (Democrat-Ohio)/William J. Clinton (Democrat-Arkansas) 1989-1997
William Weld (Republican-Massachusetts)/George W. Bush (Republican-Texas) 1997-2005
George W. Bush (Republican-Texas)/John S. McCain, III (Republican-Arizona) 2005-2009
Barack H. Obama (Democrat-Hawaii)/Evan Bayh (Democrat-Indiana) 2009-2013
Hillary Rodham-Weld (Republican-Illinois)/"Mitt" Romney (Republican-Utah) 2013-2017
Dr. Jill Stein (Democrat-Massachusetts)/"Bernie" Sanders (Democrat-Vermont) 2017-Present[/color]

RIP America FF. Sad
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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2016, 04:21:04 PM »
What exactly are the major differences between the Bull Moose and Innovation parties, in the modern context?
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