List of Alternate Presidents

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1913-1921: Theodore Roosevelt / Warren G. Harding (R) (Taft promised chief justice)
1921-1925: Alton B. Parker / John W. Davis * Declined Second Term
1925-1933: Winston Churchill / Calvin Coolidge (R)
1933-1941: Calvin Coolidge / Douglas MacArthur (R)
1941-1949: Winston Churchill / Thomas E. Dewey (R)
1949-1957: Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr. / Wendell Willkie (D)
1957-1961: Robert Taft / Theodore Roosevelt III (R)
1961-1965: John F. Kennedy / Terry Sanford (R)
1965-1977: Barry M. Goldwater / James L. Buckley (R)
1977-1981: Robert F. Kennedy / James E. Carter (D)
1981-1989: Mark O. Hatfield / Jack F. Kemp (R)
1989-1997: Jack F. Kemp / Maureen Reagan (R)
1997-2001: Ann Richards / Bill Clinton (D)
2001-present: Elvis Presley / John Engler (R)

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Chief Justices of the United States (Monroe beats Madison 88)

1. James Madison (1789-1837)
2. Robert Taney (1837-1864)
3. Stephen Johnson Field (1864-1898)
4. William Howard Taft (1898-1930)
5. Charles Evans Hughes (1930-1948)
6. William Knowland (1948-1987)
7. Antonin Scalia (1987-Present)

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13. Millard Fillmore: 1857-1865 (American, then Republican)
14. Abraham Lincoln: 1865-1877 (R)
15. Samuel Tilden: 1877-1884 (D) [1]
16. Grover Cleveland: 1884-1893 (D)
17. William McKinley: 1893-1901 (R)
18. Theodore Roosevelt: 1901-1917 (R)
19. Champ Clark: 1917-1921 (D)
20. Calvin Coolidge: 1921-1933 (R)
21. Al Smith: 1933-1941 (D)
22. John Garner: 1941-1945 (D)
23. Douglas MacArthur: 1945-1957 (R)
24. Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr: 1957-1965 (D)
25. Barry M. Goldwater: 1965-1981 (R)
26. Robert F. Kennedy: 1981-1985 (D)
27. Jack F. Kemp: 1985-1993 (R)
28. Lloyd Bensen: 1993-1997 (D)
29. Al D'Amato: 1997-2005 (R)
30. William Weld: 2005-Present (R)

[1] Assassinated

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An idea for a TL I'm thinking of doing, based on BeckReilly's unfinished project on ah.com:

William McKinley (R) (1897-1905)
Charles W. Fairbanks (R) (1905-1909) *
William Randolph Hearst (D) (1909-1913) [1]
Theodore Roosevelt (R) (1913-1921)
Alton B. Parker (D) (1921-1925)**
Charles Curtis (R) (1925-1933)
Al Smith (D) (1933-1941)
Jack Garner (D) (1941-1949)
Douglas MacArthur (R) (1949-1961)***
John F. Kennedy (D) (1961-1964) [2]
Barry M. Goldwater (D) (1964-1981) [3]
John B. Connally (D) (1981-1987) [4]
Gerald R. Ford (R) (1987-1989) - or Hatfield
Jesse Helms (D) (1989-1997)
Jack Kemp (D) (1997-2005)
Elizabeth Dole (D) (2005-2009)
Howard Dean (R) (2009-present)

[1] declared martial law and dissolved congress after electoral fraud in the 1912 election, prompting rebellion and the coup by Roosevelt
[2] Assassinated (or impeached)
[3] Broke two-term tradition to deal with World War III
[4] Assassinated
* Or Henry Cabot Lodge
** Or Hiram Johnson
*** Or Bobby Taft


Tell me what you think.

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An idea for a TL I'm thinking of doing, based on BeckReilly's unfinished project on ah.com:

William McKinley (R) (1897-1905)
Charles W. Fairbanks (R) (1905-1909) *
William Randolph Hearst (D) (1909-1913) [1]
Theodore Roosevelt (R) (1913-1921)
Alton B. Parker (D) (1921-1925)**
Charles Curtis (R) (1925-1933)
Al Smith (D) (1933-1941)
Jack Garner (D) (1941-1949)
Douglas MacArthur (R) (1949-1961)***
John F. Kennedy (D) (1961-1964) [2]
Barry M. Goldwater (D) (1964-1981) [3]
John B. Connally (D) (1981-1987) [4]
Gerald R. Ford (R) (1987-1989) - or Hatfield
Jesse Helms (D) (1989-1997)
Jack Kemp (D) (1997-2005)
Elizabeth Dole (D) (2005-2009)
Howard Dean (R) (2009-present)

[1] declared martial law and dissolved congress after electoral fraud in the 1912 election, prompting rebellion and the coup by Roosevelt
[2] Assassinated (or impeached)
[3] Broke two-term tradition to deal with World War III
[4] Assassinated
* Or Henry Cabot Lodge
** Or Hiram Johnson
*** Or Bobby Taft


Tell me what you think.

Something says that I would be a Democrat ITTL.

Haha, me too

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I would be definitely interested in the Goldwater Presidency and WWIII

I'm going to start it soon, after my Godfather TL is done (it's a mini project I've been working on.)

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Hoover a Democrat:

31. Herbert Hoover: 1929-1933 (D)
32. Al Smith: 1933-1941 (D)
33. Douglas MacArthur: 1941-1953 (R) *
34. Robert Taft: 1953-1961 (R)
35. Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr: 1961-1969 (D)
36. Barry M. Goldwater: 1969-1977 (R)
37. Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr: 1977-1981 (D)
38. Ronald W. Reagan: 1981-1989 (R)
39. Robert Dole: 1989-1997 (R)
40. Ann Richards: 1997-2001 (D)
41. Jack F. Kemp: 2001-2009 (R)
42. Elizabeth Dole: 2009-present

* seeks a third term because of World War II

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A long and Flowing Whig: (a phenomenal TL on ah.com)

7. Andrew Jackson: 1829-1835 (D) *
8. Martin Van Buren: 1835-1841 (D)
9. William Henry Harrison: 1841-1845 (W)
10. James K. Polk: 1845-1849 (D)
11. Henry Clay: 1849-1852 (W)
12. Millard Fillmore: 1852-1853 (W)
13. Winfield Scott: 1853-1860 (W) - ran for third term, lost, then died.  Should've won it IMO
14. Abraham Lincoln: 1860-1869 (W)
15. William Seward: 1869-1873 (W)
16. John C. Fremont: 1873-1881 (W)
17. Robert Todd Lincoln: 1881-1885 (W)
18. Theodore Roosevelt, Sr: 1885-1893 (Populist)
19. James Garfield: 1893-1901 (W)
20. William McKinley: 1901-1905 (W)
21. Theodore Roosevelt, Jr (P): 1905-19??

* Assassinated

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The Confederation Continues

In 1786, a group including John Hancock, Patrick Henry, Samuel Adams, John Jay, George Washington, and a few youngsters including Alexander Hamilton and James Madison, meeting in Pennsylvania, produced a constitution to save the Confederation. Amending the Articles of Confederation, they produce a modified plan that leaves states with a large amount of autonomy but leaves the federal government in control of interestate commerce, foreign policy, and a number of other key points. Combined with certain compromises made in 1787, the agreement is ratified, and in 1787, the first of the new elections to the Congress are held.

1. George Washington (Virginia) March 4th, 1788-March 4th, 1789
2. John Hancock (Massachusetts) March 4th, 1789-March 4th, 1790
3. Patrick Henry (Virginia) March 4th, 1790-March 4th, 1791
4. John Adams (Massachusetts) March 4th, 1791-March 4th, 1792
5. John Jay (New York) March 4th, 1792-March 4th, 1793
6. Thomas Jefferson (Virginia) March 4th, 1793-March 4th, 1794
7. Samuel Adams (Massachustts) March 4th, 1794-March 4th, 1795
8. Oliver Ellsworth (Connecticut) March 4th, 1795-March 4th, 1796
9. Aaron Burr (New York) March 4th, 1796-March 4th, 1797
10. Alexander Hamilton (New York) March 4th, 1797-March 4th, 1797)

Sounds like a good TL

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List of Mayors of New York City:

Ed Koch (D): 1979-1993*
Rudolph Giuliani (R): 1994-2005**
Howard Stern (Independent-Libertarian): 2006-2009***
Bob Turner (R): 2010-Present****

* Koch narrowly survives a bitter primary against fellow Democrat David Dinkins
** Giuliani given third term in the wake of 9/11, term limits repealed
*** Stern runs on change from past two mayors, promising to serve only one term.  After a sex scandal comes out against his only real competition, Congressman Anthony Weiner, the polls tighten, and Stern is elected in a major upset, promising to legalize Marajuana and other "soft drugs" and eliminate the "fascist police tactics" of the Giuliani administration
**** While crime continued to drop during Stern's time in office, the citizens of New York realize that it is too early to legalize drugs of any kind in the city, and Turner is elected in a landslide on a law and order campaign.

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I Pardon the party pooper!

This is a TL I've been working on, I might need to work out some kinks, though

Chancellors of the United States

1. John Adams (Pro-Administration) (1789-1797)
2. Alexander Hamilton (Pro-Administration) (1797-1801)
3. Thomas Jefferson (Whig) (1801-1809)
4. James Madison (W) (1809-1816)*
5. James Monroe (R) (1816-1825)
6. John Quincy Adams (NA) (1825-1833)
7. Andrew Jackson (W) (1833-1841)
8. John C. Calhoun (Freedom) (1845-1846)
9. Martin Van Buren (W) (1846-1849)
10. James K. Polk (W) (1849-1850)
11. Winfield Scott (NR) (1850-1861)
12. Millard Fillmore (NR) (1861-1869)
13. Abraham Lincoln (NR) (1869-1877)
14. Samuel Tilden (Liberal) (1877-1885)
15. Grover Cleveland (L) (1885-1889)
16. Robert Todd Lincoln (NR) (1889-1897)
17. James A. Garfield (NR) (1897-1905)
17. Grover Cleveland (L) (1905-1909)
18. Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive) (1909-1921)
19. Calvin Coolidge (L) (1921-1929)
20. Al Smith (L) (1929-1933)
21. John Garner (Populist) (1933-1937)
22. Winston Churchill (L) (1937-1953) **
23. Douglas MacArthur (L) (1953-1961)
24. Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr. (L) (1961-1965)
25. Vito Marcantonio (American Labor) (1965-1966)
26. Richard Nixon (ALP) (1966-1969)
27. Barry Goldwater (L) (1969-1985) ***
28. Ronald Reagan (L) (1985-1993)
29. Jerry Brown (ALP) (1993-2001)
30. Joseph Lieberman (L) (2001-2009)
31. George W. Bush (L) (2009-2017)

* As a deal with Vice Chair Monroe, Monroe would become president while Madison became Chief Justice
** Churchill vows to fight on as World War II ravages the 1930s and 40s.  Appointed Chief Justice by President MacArthur
*** Stays on to fight World War III

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Love the work, Jerseyrules!

Thanks.  .  I'm gonna try and start it the day after the last day of school, maybe even squeeze in an update or two while I'm in D.C.  I think I'll be able to finish it by September.

Input appreciated!

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My fantasy world, 1960 present.
1960-1965: Richard Nixon
1965-1973: Barry Goldwater
1973-1977: Richard Nixon
1977-1985: Ronald Reagan
1985-1993: Barry Goldwater Jr.
1993-2001: Ron Paul
2001-2009: Pat Buchanan
2009-2013: Chuck Baldwin
2013-2021: Gary Johnson

Except for Richard Nixon, I'd live here

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43. Barack Obama (Republican): 2009-2017

Say what?

I'm wondering the same thing too!

Well I think you see the GOP trend left with the Dems going to the right; remember that Rocky's the GOP Standard Bearer and Wallace for the Dems

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44. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Barrack Obama (D-IL): 2009-2017
45. Barrack H. Obama (D-IL) / Elizabeth Warren (D-MA): 2017-2021
46. Marco Rubio (R-FL) / Jon Huntsman (R-UT): 2021-2029
47. Kirsten Gillibrandt (D-NY) / Heidi Heitkamp (D-ND): 2029-?

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A Primary Challenge and Madam President

45. Hillary Clinton / Brian Schweitzer: 2013-2021
46. Chris Christie / Susana Martinez: 2021-2029
47. Susana Martinez / Larry Hogan: 2029-2037
48. Cory Booker / Eric Stalwell: 2037-?

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Uber-hackery

26. Theodore Roosevelt (R): 1901-1921
27. Calvin Coolidge (R): 1921-1929
28. Al Smith (D): 1929-1933
29. Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. (R): 1933-1949
30. Harry S. Truman (D): 1949-1953
31. Dwight D. Eisenhower (R): 1953-1961
32. Richard M. Nixon (R): 1961-1994
33. Mitt Romney (R): 1994-2001
34. Bill Clinton (D): 2001-present

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A Tale of Two Dynasties

41. George H. W. Bush (R): 1989-1993
42. Bill Clinton (D): 1993-2001
43. George W. Bush (R): 2001-2009
44. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D): 2009-2017
45. John E. Bush (R): 2017-2025
46. Chelsea Clinton (D): 2025-2029
47. George P. Bush (R): 2029-2037

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35. Richard M. Nixon (R-CA) / Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R-MA): 1961-1969
36. George Smathers (D-FL) / Hubert Humphrey (D-MN): 1969-1977
37. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) / Jerry Brown (D-CA): 1977-1981
38. George H. W. Bush (R-TX) / Edward M. Cox (R-NY): 1981-1989
39. Jack F. Kemp (R-NY) / Pete Wilson (R-CA): 1989-1997
40. Ann Richards (D-TX) / Bill Clinton (D-AR): 1997-1999
41. Bill Clinton (D-AR) / Jim Hunt (D-NC): 1999-2005
42. John S. McCain (R-AZ) / Elizabeth Dole (R-NC): 2005-2013

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34. Douglas MacArthur (R-WI) / Robert Taft (R-OH): 1949-1953
Douglas MacArthur (R-WI) / Richard M. Nixon (R-CA): 1953-1961
35. Richard M. Nixon (R-CA) / Barry Goldwater (R-AZ): 1961-1969
36. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) / Winthrop Rockefeller (R-AR): 1969-1977
37. Scoop M. Jackson (D-WA) / George Smathers (D-FL): 1977-1981
38. Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA) / George H. W. Bush (R-TX): 1981-1989
39. George H. W. Bush (R-TX) / Dan Quayle (R-IN): 1989-1997
40. Dan Quayle (R-IN) / John S. McCain (R-AZ): 1997-2001
41. Albert Gore, Jr. (D-TN) / Richard Gephart (D-IA): 2001-2009
42. John E. Bush (R-FL) / Hillary Rodham (R-IL): 2009-2017

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43. John McCain (R-AZ) / George W. Bush (R-TX): 2001-2009
44. George W. Bush (R-TX) / Colin Powell (R-NY): 2009-Present