Cannibalism 2

[MaC]

One of my co-workers described a case where three miners fell down into a pit and weren't able to get out.  After eight days they drew straws to be eaten-one guy was eaten.  Ironically shortly after they ate the miner, they were rescued.  The other two were punished for manslaughter.

I wouldn't punish them because both sides consented and they were in a panic situation-although it'd be a hard thing to prove.

[Padfoot]

One of my co-workers described a case where three miners fell down into a pit and weren't able to get out.  After eight days they drew straws to be eaten-one guy was eaten.  Ironically shortly after they ate the miner, they were rescued.  The other two were punished for manslaughter.

I wouldn't punish them because both sides consented and they were in a panic situation-although it'd be a hard thing to prove.

Cannibalism in extreme cases of survival is much different than voluntary every day cannibalism.  However, the person must already be dead before you decided to eat them.  Murder is murder.

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

Murder is murder.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Yes - w/ 1st degree murder.

[Alcon]

Yes - w/ 1st degree murder.

Second degree...there's nothing first-degree about this, really.  But I agree, it's murder (probably plead down to manslaughter).

[Gabu]

Yes - w/ 1st degree murder.

First degree murder means that it was premeditated and done in cold blood.  Unless you can prove that one or both of the miners specifically intended to be trapped there purely as a guise to kill the other miner, the most it could possibly be is second degree murder.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Yes - w/ 1st degree murder.

First degree murder means that it was premeditated and done in cold blood.  Unless you can prove that one or both of the miners specifically intended to be trapped there purely as a guise to kill the other miner, the most it could possibly be is second degree murder.

I believe 1st is just pre-med., not in cold blood - and it was definitely pre-med.

[Gabu]

I believe 1st is just pre-med., not in cold blood - and it was definitely pre-med.

Sure, it was "premeditated" in that the two guys intended to kill the other two, but:

- they never intended to be trapped in a pit with no apparent chance for being saved

- no one held any malice, grudge, ill will, or any reason at all to kill one of the others

- no one person was singled out as a predetermined target

I think it's be pretty darn hard to call it first degree murder.

[Joe Republic]

I believe 1st is just pre-med., not in cold blood - and it was definitely pre-med.

Sure, it was "premeditated" in that the two guys intended to kill the other two, but:

- they never intended to be trapped in a pit with no apparent chance for being saved

- no one held any malice, grudge, ill will, or any reason at all to kill one of the others

- no one person was singled out as a predetermined target

I think it's be pretty darn hard to call it first degree murder.

The problem is, of course, that how can anybody know for sure that the second and third of those statements are true?

[Gabu]

I believe 1st is just pre-med., not in cold blood - and it was definitely pre-med.

Sure, it was "premeditated" in that the two guys intended to kill the other two, but:

- they never intended to be trapped in a pit with no apparent chance for being saved

- no one held any malice, grudge, ill will, or any reason at all to kill one of the others

- no one person was singled out as a predetermined target

I think it's be pretty darn hard to call it first degree murder.

The problem is, of course, that how can anybody know for sure that the second and third of those statements are true?

Well, that's why you go to a court of law, where people are presumed innocent until proven guilty.

[Democratic Hawk]

Cannibalism in extreme cases of survival is much different than voluntary every day cannibalism.  However, the person must already be dead before you decided to eat them.  Murder is murder.

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

Human meat tastes like veal.

[Richard]

And smells like bacon when burning.  At least that is what a firefighter tells me.

[Gabu]

And smells like bacon when burning.  At least that is what a firefighter tells me.

Well, I do recall that humans share something like 50% of their DNA with pigs.

[J. J.]

Human meat tastes like veal.

No, pork.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

And smells like bacon when burning.  At least that is what a firefighter tells me.

No - it is THE worst smell on earth - one that I hope to never smell again.

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

Human meat tastes like veal.

No, pork.

You know this how?

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Human meat tastes like veal.

No, pork.

You know this how?

Ya!  Who knows what pork tastes like!

[Ebowed]

I think I'd rather starve to death than eat human meat.  I simply can't see myself being able to eat it, no matter what it tastes like.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

There was actually a case a bit like this over here in the 19th century; though it involved two sailors on a lifeboat eating the cabin boy. I think they were hung for it, though I can't quite remember. Maybe just imprisoned.
Not sure.

[Mesu]

What if the person who drew the shortest straw changed there mind about wanting to die? If they said "too bad" and killed him anyways they should be punished.

And there no way of knowing what really happened. Both the people who killed him might have intended to say "just kidding" if they lost. Drawing straws for your life isn't an enforcable contract.