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« on: March 16, 2007, 01:30:49 PM »

What is everybody's opinion on this state, NH has long been a swing state and something teels me with the GOP field being much more moderate then in years past, That this state may flip and go Republican in 08. I think Rudy and Romney both stand good chances at taking this swing state.
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2007, 10:45:59 PM »

NH has always been more moderate than its neighbors, but I think it is slightly trending toward the Democrats. It will remain in play in 2008, but I predict the Dems will win it, depending on the candidate.
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2007, 11:40:37 PM »

I have a felling the state will go Republican in 08, Because NH doesn't like people like Hillary.
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2007, 12:29:29 AM »

I have a felling the state will go Republican in 08, Because NH doesn't like people like Hillary.

Its pretty much finished for the GOP.  Rudy and McCain might make it a tad more interesting, but even with them it won't be that close.  Romney no way.  The GOP has fallen so far and so fast in the state, and its basically done, cooked fried forget about it.  The state is VERY anti-Iraq, with that debacle very likely to be raging on during the time of the election, I think the GOP has virtually no shot in the state.  I really don't think the state will even be that close next year.
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2007, 01:30:06 AM »

I have a felling the state will go Republican in 08, Because NH doesn't like people like Hillary.

As demonstrated by 2006 NH also shows no favoritism for the War in Iraq.  No pro-war candidate was a shot in hell here.
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2007, 07:57:12 AM »

I have a felling the state will go Republican in 08, Because NH doesn't like people like Hillary.

Its pretty much finished for the GOP.  Rudy and McCain might make it a tad more interesting, but even with them it won't be that close.  Romney no way.  The GOP has fallen so far and so fast in the state, and its basically done, cooked fried forget about it.  The state is VERY anti-Iraq, with that debacle very likely to be raging on during the time of the election, I think the GOP has virtually no shot in the state.  I really don't think the state will even be that close next year.

Still don't write this state off!
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2007, 07:57:44 AM »

I have a felling the state will go Republican in 08, Because NH doesn't like people like Hillary.

As demonstrated by 2006 NH also shows no favoritism for the War in Iraq.  No pro-war candidate was a shot in hell here.


What about Chuck Hagel?
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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2007, 12:19:24 AM »

I have a felling the state will go Republican in 08, Because NH doesn't like people like Hillary.

As demonstrated by 2006 NH also shows no favoritism for the War in Iraq.  No pro-war candidate was a shot in hell here.


What about Chuck Hagel?


1.  Hagel could never win the GOP nomination

2.  Too socially conservative for N.H
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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2007, 12:25:43 AM »

New Hampshire is trending Democratic quite fast. Assuming the Democratic candidate is decent, I expect it to go Democrat.
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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2007, 01:37:48 AM »

I have a felling the state will go Republican in 08, Because NH doesn't like people like Hillary.

As demonstrated by 2006 NH also shows no favoritism for the War in Iraq.  No pro-war candidate was a shot in hell here.


What about Chuck Hagel?


1.  Hagel could never win the GOP nomination

2.  Too socially conservative for N.H


However the Iraq war is the biggest issue everywhere and Hagel is more liberal then Hillary on Iraq, So when you're saying that someone like Rudt coun't win in NH because of his support for the Iraq war you're forgeting about an ant-war Republican. 
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« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2007, 02:18:03 AM »

I have a felling the state will go Republican in 08, Because NH doesn't like people like Hillary.

As demonstrated by 2006 NH also shows no favoritism for the War in Iraq.  No pro-war candidate was a shot in hell here.


What about Chuck Hagel?


1.  Hagel could never win the GOP nomination

2.  Too socially conservative for N.H


However the Iraq war is the biggest issue everywhere and Hagel is more liberal then Hillary on Iraq, So when you're saying that someone like Rudt coun't win in NH because of his support for the Iraq war you're forgeting about an ant-war Republican. 

At this point I don't really think ANY Republican could win N.H.  Hagel has no chance at the GOP nom, so the point is mute.  But if you would even assume he could,  I'm not forgetting about an anti-war Republican, I'm just saying being anti war isn't going to win you the state, if your views on other issues don't match up well to the state, which Hagel's don't, especially on social issues.   

Different issues hurt different candidates.  Being in the GOP alone, hurts them in the state at this point.  Rudy's social views are more in line with the state, but his Iraq views bury him, while Hagel's Iraq views might be more in line with his state his views on other issues, social issues especially would bury him there.

 Now if you would have a candidate who had Rudy's social views, combined with Hagel's Iraq views than maybe you have somewhat of an argument, more so with a Lincoln Chafee type, but outside of that no, the state has just shifted too much.
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« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2007, 07:34:42 AM »

I have a felling the state will go Republican in 08, Because NH doesn't like people like Hillary.

Its pretty much finished for the GOP.  Rudy and McCain might make it a tad more interesting, but even with them it won't be that close.  Romney no way.  The GOP has fallen so far and so fast in the state, and its basically done, cooked fried forget about it.  The state is VERY anti-Iraq, with that debacle very likely to be raging on during the time of the election, I think the GOP has virtually no shot in the state.  I really don't think the state will even be that close next year.

I have a feeling it will a surprise state in 2008.  Either the GOP will win or it will be WV of 2008
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« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2007, 08:48:39 AM »

I have a felling the state will go Republican in 08, Because NH doesn't like people like Hillary.

Its pretty much finished for the GOP.  Rudy and McCain might make it a tad more interesting, but even with them it won't be that close.  Romney no way.  The GOP has fallen so far and so fast in the state, and its basically done, cooked fried forget about it.  The state is VERY anti-Iraq, with that debacle very likely to be raging on during the time of the election, I think the GOP has virtually no shot in the state.  I really don't think the state will even be that close next year.

I have a feeling it will a surprise state in 2008.  Either the GOP will win or it will be WV of 2008

It could very well be the West Virginia of 2008.  I could see New Hampshire going Democratic by the comfortable margin of around 53%-45%. 
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« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2007, 01:56:33 PM »

Still the GOP has a decent shot at this state.
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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2007, 04:00:08 PM »

it is a lean democrat state.

it isnt a lock for the democrats, particularly if the war is over or winding down by nov 08.

my biggest fear is that the republicans are going to write nh off (and the entire northeast, similar to what the democrats did in the south in the 90s)
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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2007, 04:24:28 PM »

it is a lean democrat state.

it isnt a lock for the democrats, particularly if the war is over or winding down by nov 08.

my biggest fear is that the republicans are going to write nh off (and the entire northeast, similar to what the democrats did in the south in the 90s)


I don't think we are going to write off the Northeast just yet, If anything if Rudy is nomenated more Northeastern states besides PA and NH should be up for play this time I would deflintley say NJ would be and ME and if we're lucky CT.
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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2007, 05:27:10 PM »

it is a lean democrat state.

it isnt a lock for the democrats, particularly if the war is over or winding down by nov 08.

my biggest fear is that the republicans are going to write nh off (and the entire northeast, similar to what the democrats did in the south in the 90s)

The Democrats did not write off the South in the 1990s did they - Clinton carried Arkansas, Tennessee and Louisiana in both 1992 and 1996, and he carried Georgia in 1992 and Florida in 1996.  In 1996, he came close to winning North Carolina, Mississippi and Virginia.

The Democrats arguably started to right off the South after the 2000 elections - when Al Gore failed to carry even his homestate of Tennessee and lost Arkansas and Louisiana - two states he could feasibly have carried.  And the fact that AL-3, a District that the right Democrat could win in, remains in Republican hands, demonstrates that they have written off the South now.  But I do not think they did it in the 1990s - it really occurred after 2000 and especially in 2002 and 2004 - when the Republicans won every open seat up for election in the region and Bush convincingly won every Southern state. 
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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2007, 06:03:58 PM »

I see NH going to the dems in 08 just on how much the people there hate the war.
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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2007, 06:12:42 PM »

The Republicans will win NH if one of these two situtation happen:

1. Guiliani is the Republican nominee.
2. John Edwards is the Democratic nominee. His tax and spend theory will sour the NH voters.
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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2007, 01:22:02 AM »

The Republicans will win NH if one of these two situtation happen:

1. Guiliani is the Republican nominee.
2. John Edwards is the Democratic nominee. His tax and spend theory will sour the NH voters.


And Guliani's support of the war won't sour them?  Seriously people, anyone who thinks a pro-war Rudy is going to win anything in New England must have been asleep during the 2006 election.  Any and all pro-war candidates WILL LOSE HEAVILY in New England in 2008.  Unless there is some sort of miraculous turn around in the next two years, all of New England is going to be heavily Democratic.
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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2007, 06:18:31 AM »

In the Democratic column next year.
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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2007, 09:01:40 AM »

Romney could win it. Giuliani not only could, but would have to win it.  McCain could try to give a fight there.  Overall,  lean Dem, but not (yet?) solid Dem.
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« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2007, 01:55:05 PM »

Romney could win it. Giuliani not only could, but would have to win it.  McCain could try to give a fight there.  Overall,  lean Dem, but not (yet?) solid Dem.

ROMNEY??!!??!!  You must be joking.  McCain would have won it in 2000 just as Bush did but he's done here now.  And once again I must reiterate that anyone who thinks a pro-war candidate will win New Hampshire or anywhere else in New England is still living in a pre-November 2006 world.
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« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2007, 04:25:17 PM »

Obama and Edwards would carry the state easily. If the election is something like Rudy vs Hillary... the GOP will have a shot.
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