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« on: March 18, 2007, 10:23:23 PM »
Did you agree with the sentiments expressed by General Pace about homosexuality being immoral?
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2007, 10:25:54 PM »
No I don't.
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2007, 11:46:30 PM »
No (R).

I would like one reasonable argument to the contrary that isn't founded on religious principles.
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2007, 11:46:49 PM »
It probably is, but it is fun.  And so are many things that is verboten.
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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2007, 11:47:40 PM »
nope
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2007, 12:06:54 AM »
It is as immoral as heterosexuality or bisexuality... The point to be made is that morality is relative to the individual.
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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2007, 06:25:02 AM »
« Edited: March 19, 2007, 06:26:55 AM by Richardson/Vilsack 2008 »
Yes (D) -- Marriage is designed to reproduce and it is physically impossible to reproduce without egg and sperm.  You can't have sperm and sperm or egg and egg to reproduce.  One may argue for invetro fertilization, but thats not reproduction inside the marriage.
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2007, 06:29:17 AM »
Quote from: Richardson/Vilsack 2008 on March 19, 2007, 06:25:02 AM
Yes (D) -- Marriage is designed to reproduce and it is physically impossible to reproduce without egg and sperm.  You can't have sperm and sperm or egg and egg to reproduce.  One may argue for invetro fertilization, but thats not reproduction inside the marriage.

Who said anything about marriage, or reproduction?
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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2007, 06:29:44 AM »
Quote from: adam on March 18, 2007, 11:46:30 PM
No (R).

I would like one reasonable argument to the contrary that isn't founded on religious principles.

It is contrary to the very nature of life-creation.  In fact it is an anti-life position.
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2007, 06:46:33 AM »
Quote from: Gully Foyle on March 19, 2007, 06:29:17 AM
Quote from: Richardson/Vilsack 2008 on March 19, 2007, 06:25:02 AM
Yes (D) -- Marriage is designed to reproduce and it is physically impossible to reproduce without egg and sperm.  You can't have sperm and sperm or egg and egg to reproduce.  One may argue for invetro fertilization, but thats not reproduction inside the marriage.

Who said anything about marriage, or reproduction?

Correct. Marriage/Reproduction should not be mixed up with morality or immorality of homosexuality. Evolution made it clear that not all humans are homosexual (about 90%) and therefore the 90% are able to reproduce the human species. If we were all gay, the reproduction issue would matter.

As for the question: No (D) - I´m a strong supporter of gay rights.
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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2007, 08:34:52 AM »
Quote from: Gully Foyle on March 19, 2007, 06:29:17 AM
Quote from: Richardson/Vilsack 2008 on March 19, 2007, 06:25:02 AM
Yes (D) -- Marriage is designed to reproduce and it is physically impossible to reproduce without egg and sperm.  You can't have sperm and sperm or egg and egg to reproduce.  One may argue for invetro fertilization, but thats not reproduction inside the marriage.

Who said anything about marriage, or reproduction?

^^^^^^

I'm a tad flummoxed as to what marriage has do do with anything.
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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2007, 10:34:51 AM »
Quote from: KEmperor on March 19, 2007, 06:29:44 AM
Quote from: adam on March 18, 2007, 11:46:30 PM
No (R).

I would like one reasonable argument to the contrary that isn't founded on religious principles.

It is contrary to the very nature of life-creation.  In fact it is an anti-life position.

By that logic, not having children is immoral.  So is not having sex at every opportunity, because you're turning down the potential for life (of course, this argument still is going to appeal to some men, but whatever Tongue).  Not being pro-"life creation" (since when was that immoral?) is different from being anti-"life creation."  Besides, there are already plenty of people on earth.

In any case, No (I).
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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2007, 10:39:24 AM »
Quote from: Richardson/Vilsack 2008 on March 19, 2007, 06:25:02 AM
Yes (D) -- Marriage is designed to reproduce and it is physically impossible to reproduce without egg and sperm.  You can't have sperm and sperm or egg and egg to reproduce.  One may argue for invetro fertilization, but thats not reproduction inside the marriage.

wow i cant believe opebo hasnt told you to get over to the religious party.
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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2007, 10:43:19 AM »
Quote from: WalterMitty on March 19, 2007, 10:39:24 AM
Quote from: Richardson/Vilsack 2008 on March 19, 2007, 06:25:02 AM
Yes (D) -- Marriage is designed to reproduce and it is physically impossible to reproduce without egg and sperm.  You can't have sperm and sperm or egg and egg to reproduce.  One may argue for invetro fertilization, but thats not reproduction inside the marriage.

wow i cant believe opebo hasnt told you to get over to the religious party.

Cue opebo in 3.... 2....
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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2007, 11:04:30 AM »
Quote from: Ebowed on March 18, 2007, 10:23:23 PM
Did you agree with the sentiments expressed by General Pace about homosexuality being immoral?

Having doubts about yourself, again?!  Wink
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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2007, 11:06:35 AM »
Quote from: jmfcst on March 19, 2007, 11:04:30 AM
Quote from: Ebowed on March 18, 2007, 10:23:23 PM
Did you agree with the sentiments expressed by General Pace about homosexuality being immoral?

Having doubts about yourself, again?!  Wink

Err, what?

If you're going to make a lame "you're gay" joke, at least attempt coherency.  Tongue
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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2007, 11:18:11 AM »
Quote from: Nighthawk on March 19, 2007, 11:06:35 AM
Quote from: jmfcst on March 19, 2007, 11:04:30 AM
Quote from: Ebowed on March 18, 2007, 10:23:23 PM
Did you agree with the sentiments expressed by General Pace about homosexuality being immoral?

Having doubts about yourself, again?!  Wink

Err, what?

If you're going to make a lame "you're gay" joke, at least attempt coherency.  Tongue

Well, I have been up for 36  hours straight, but I don't see how I was incoherent.  Learn me something about sentence structure, will you?
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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2007, 11:19:22 AM »
Quote from: jmfcst on March 19, 2007, 11:18:11 AM
Quote from: Nighthawk on March 19, 2007, 11:06:35 AM
Quote from: jmfcst on March 19, 2007, 11:04:30 AM
Quote from: Ebowed on March 18, 2007, 10:23:23 PM
Did you agree with the sentiments expressed by General Pace about homosexuality being immoral?

Having doubts about yourself, again?!  Wink

Err, what?

If you're going to make a lame "you're gay" joke, at least attempt coherency.  Tongue

Well, I have been up for 36  hours straight, but I don't see how I was incoherent.  Learn me something about sentence structure, will you?

Thirty-six hours?  I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, since we've all been there.  Get some damn sleep, man!  Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2007, 11:32:57 AM »
Quote from: Richardson/Vilsack 2008 on March 19, 2007, 06:25:02 AM
Yes (D) -- Marriage is designed to reproduce and it is physically impossible to reproduce without egg and sperm.  You can't have sperm and sperm or egg and egg to reproduce.  One may argue for invetro fertilization, but thats not reproduction inside the marriage.

If a woman is barren is it immoral for her to have sex?
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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2007, 11:38:24 AM »
Quote from: Nighthawk on March 19, 2007, 11:19:22 AM
Thirty-six hours?  I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, since we've all been there.  Get some damn sleep, man!  Smiley

Can't.  It's only 11:30am in Houston and we're in the middle of User-Acceptance-Testing (UAT) for Release 1 of a global enterprise integration effort.  I'm supposed to be in London gearing up for Release 2.  As it is, I'm in London gearing up for Release 2 while baby-sitting Release 1.

The Hagen-Daus Belgian-Chocolate has been outstanding, though.  There’s one right outside my hotel.  Of course, I’ll have to wait until I can leave work.
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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2007, 01:30:13 PM »
Quote from: KEmperor on March 19, 2007, 06:29:44 AM
Quote from: adam on March 18, 2007, 11:46:30 PM
No (R).

I would like one reasonable argument to the contrary that isn't founded on religious principles.

It is contrary to the very nature of life-creation.  In fact it is an anti-life position.

I would argue that stating the purpose of relationships and sexuality to be stricty procreational, is still a religiously based position.
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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2007, 01:44:59 PM »
Not in itself no. The thing is with me I consider any monogimous and committed 'love' relationship between two humans, either at or above the age of consent be it heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual, to be moral

I consider adultery and infidelity immoral

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« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2007, 01:48:10 PM »
Quote from: Richardson/Vilsack 2008 on March 19, 2007, 06:25:02 AM
Yes (D) -- Marriage is designed to reproduce and it is physically impossible to reproduce without egg and sperm.  You can't have sperm and sperm or egg and egg to reproduce.  One may argue for invetro fertilization, but thats not reproduction inside the marriage.

Is being infertile or celebate immoral then, as well?
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« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2007, 02:36:09 PM »
Quote from: Richardson/Vilsack 2008 on March 19, 2007, 10:43:19 AM
Quote from: WalterMitty on March 19, 2007, 10:39:24 AM
Quote from: Richardson/Vilsack 2008 on March 19, 2007, 06:25:02 AM
Yes (D) -- Marriage is designed to reproduce and it is physically impossible to reproduce without egg and sperm.  You can't have sperm and sperm or egg and egg to reproduce.  One may argue for invetro fertilization, but thats not reproduction inside the marriage.

wow i cant believe opebo hasnt told you to get over to the religious party.

Cue opebo in 3.... 2....

You haven't actually answered the earlier question on this post; i.e. "Who said anything about marriage, or reproduction?"
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« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2007, 03:07:02 PM »
Yes (R) - althought I understand this is my personal belief rooted mostly in my religious beliefs, and that reasonable people can disagree.  Although I have a feeling it is the left that urges that we accept them, I am saying that everyone is entitled to their own opinion
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