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« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2004, 11:46:39 AM »

1912 to Theodore Roosevelt
1976 to Ford
1844 to Clay (vs Polk.. I'm from Mexico, sorry) :-)
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« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2004, 03:18:46 PM »

I only get one election?  Sad

Gore in 2000.
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« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2004, 06:17:42 PM »

A quick item here ... for you guys who want to give '76 to Ford ... if you do so then odds are you would get Dole winning the Republican nomination in 1980 (as the sitting VP almost always gets the nom unless he doesn't want it ... and Dole definitely wanted it).

So if Ford wins in '76 ... odds are there's no Reagan Presidency.  I can live with it, but can you?

That very well may be true in real life, but this is all fantasy stuff.
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« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2004, 07:22:01 PM »


I assumed you actually meant 1968 to Wallace. Smiley
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« Reply #29 on: July 12, 2004, 07:24:08 PM »

I would want Hoover to run in 1920, not Harding.
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« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2004, 09:32:21 PM »

I would want Hoover to run in 1920, not Harding.

Hoover would have lost in 1920.  Harding won on his charisma.
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« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2004, 11:18:37 PM »

1912--Theodore Roosevelt
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« Reply #32 on: July 13, 2004, 04:51:55 PM »

I would want Hoover to run in 1920, not Harding.

Hoover would have lost in 1920.  Harding won on his charisma.

Hoover was the most popular man in America in 1920. Both parties wanted to nominate him.

There was a plan for a Democratic team of Herbert Hoover and Franklin Roosevelt.
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« Reply #33 on: July 13, 2004, 04:55:21 PM »

I would want Hoover to run in 1920, not Harding.

Hoover would have lost in 1920.  Harding won on his charisma.

Hoover was the most popular man in America in 1920. Both parties wanted to nominate him.

There was a plan for a Democratic team of Herbert Hoover and Franklin Roosevelt.

You know too much, PBrunsel. Seriously...I'm a political junkie and never knew that. I was wondering...what got you so interested in President Hoover?
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« Reply #34 on: July 13, 2004, 04:57:32 PM »

I got interested in Hoover in 5th grade when I visited hsi presidential library in West Branch, Iowa.

Another reason is that he is vilified by the left, so I wanted to know a lot about him to disarm their arguments. Smiley

Seriously, Herbert Hoover is a better person than John Kerry or Hillary Clinton who constantly attack him.
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« Reply #35 on: July 13, 2004, 04:59:23 PM »

I got interested in Hoover in 5th grade when I visited hsi presidential library in West Branch, Iowa.

Another reason is that he is vilified by the left, so I wanted to know a lot about him to disarm their arguments. Smiley

Seriously, Herbert Hoover is a better person than John Kerry or Hillary Clinton who constantly attack him.

I'll be honest...I always put him in the worst President's column with Harding and Buchanan.
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« Reply #36 on: July 13, 2004, 05:01:40 PM »

I got interested in Hoover in 5th grade when I visited hsi presidential library in West Branch, Iowa.

Another reason is that he is vilified by the left, so I wanted to know a lot about him to disarm their arguments. Smiley

Seriously, Herbert Hoover is a better person than John Kerry or Hillary Clinton who constantly attack him.

I'll be honest...I always put him in the worst President's column with Harding and Buchanan.

That's your choice. If I enter politcs and go to Congress, I will introduce a bill making a Herbert Hoover Memorial in Washington, D.C.
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« Reply #37 on: July 13, 2004, 05:04:08 PM »

I got interested in Hoover in 5th grade when I visited hsi presidential library in West Branch, Iowa.

Another reason is that he is vilified by the left, so I wanted to know a lot about him to disarm their arguments. Smiley

Seriously, Herbert Hoover is a better person than John Kerry or Hillary Clinton who constantly attack him.

I'll be honest...I always put him in the worst President's column with Harding and Buchanan.

That's your choice. If I enter politcs and go to Congress, I will introduce a bill making a Herbert Hoover Memorial in Washington, D.C.

The only thing I knew about him was the Great Depression and record job loss. Never looked at anything else, really. Perhaps I should read up on him since he might not be that bad.
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« Reply #38 on: July 13, 2004, 05:11:27 PM »

I got interested in Hoover in 5th grade when I visited hsi presidential library in West Branch, Iowa.

Another reason is that he is vilified by the left, so I wanted to know a lot about him to disarm their arguments. Smiley

Seriously, Herbert Hoover is a better person than John Kerry or Hillary Clinton who constantly attack him.
I've never heard Kerry or Clinton attack him.
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« Reply #39 on: July 13, 2004, 05:22:20 PM »


The only thing I knew about him was the Great Depression and record job loss. Never looked at anything else, really. Perhaps I should read up on him since he might not be that bad.

He did good things before he was president, such as heading the Food Administration.  But he was an awful president.
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« Reply #40 on: July 13, 2004, 05:28:07 PM »

I got interested in Hoover in 5th grade when I visited hsi presidential library in West Branch, Iowa.

Another reason is that he is vilified by the left, so I wanted to know a lot about him to disarm their arguments. Smiley

Seriously, Herbert Hoover is a better person than John Kerry or Hillary Clinton who constantly attack him.
I've never heard Kerry or Clinton attack him.

Kerry attacked him a lot. Comparing Bush to Hoover when it came to job loss.
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« Reply #41 on: July 13, 2004, 05:34:32 PM »

I got interested in Hoover in 5th grade when I visited hsi presidential library in West Branch, Iowa.

Another reason is that he is vilified by the left, so I wanted to know a lot about him to disarm their arguments. Smiley

Seriously, Herbert Hoover is a better person than John Kerry or Hillary Clinton who constantly attack him.
I've never heard Kerry or Clinton attack him.

They insult hium by giving out the "Herbert Hoover Award" to Bush, saying his only contribution as a human was losing jobs.
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« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2004, 05:38:05 PM »

I got interested in Hoover in 5th grade when I visited hsi presidential library in West Branch, Iowa.

Another reason is that he is vilified by the left, so I wanted to know a lot about him to disarm their arguments. Smiley

Seriously, Herbert Hoover is a better person than John Kerry or Hillary Clinton who constantly attack him.

I'll be honest...I always put him in the worst President's column with Harding and Buchanan.

That's your choice. If I enter politcs and go to Congress, I will introduce a bill making a Herbert Hoover Memorial in Washington, D.C.

The only thing I knew about him was the Great Depression and record job loss. Never looked at anything else, really. Perhaps I should read up on him since he might not be that bad.

I wrote this back in April:

Herbert Hoover was a big hearted man who was always open to help the poor and weak. He is known as "The Great Humanitarian" and "The Defender of Innocent Children." He fed millions of Bulgarian Children in the CRB Relief Program. He said "Damn the fortune," and went off to help children. Does this sound like a bad man?

Durring the depression Hoover started the Farm Board to help farmers. He started the Federal Reconstruction and Finance Comitee to make sure that men like Henry Ford did not lower workers wages. He encouraged the Red Cross to feed the starving and even donated his own money to their cause.

In 1932 two children from Detroit had hitchiked to Washington to get their father out of prison. Their father had been arrested because he couldn't pay his mortgage. Hoover was so touched by the boy's treck that he freed their father, payed their mortgage, and gave them some money to help them get food and clothing. This man was a caring, big hearted, warm, and great person.

We in America today overlook the great man Herbert Hoover was because we are too blind to see that this man, born in a three room house in West Branch, Iowa, is one of the greatest men whoever lived in the United States.

Herbert Hoover was a great ex-President. He helped feed millions of Finnish people, out of his own pocket, when the Soviet-Finnish War broke out. After World War II Hoover's humanitarian work was not over. Prtesident Truman sent him on a mission to feed Europe. He was able to save millions, if not hundreds of milllions, of Eurpeans from starving to death. After JFK was shot, Hoover sent a telegraph to LBJ saying, "I am open from any job from Presidential advisor to Senate page boy." Hoover wanted to help Johnson in this moment of crisis.

In 1953 Hoover was appointed by President Eisenhower to reorganize the executive branch. The "Hoover Commison" saved taxpayers millions by trimming the Federal Government.

Herbert Hoover sadly died in 1964. The entire nation greived the death of a man who had been such a philanthropist that he was hated. The nation cried and wept for a man who had lived the American Dream. It is Hoover who should be honored, and not insulted.
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« Reply #43 on: June 05, 2005, 10:52:04 AM »

Isn't this in the wrong board?
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« Reply #44 on: June 05, 2005, 12:50:14 PM »

I would have changed the October 2004 election, and made me winner :-p
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« Reply #45 on: June 05, 2005, 02:17:27 PM »
« Edited: June 05, 2005, 02:28:23 PM by Frodo »

1796 -Thomas Jefferson

1824 -Andrew Jackson

1844 -William Henry Harrison (had he not died earlier)

1856 -John C. Fremont

1876 -Samuel G. Tilden

1888 -Grover Cleveland

1908 -Theodore Roosevelt

1920 -Woodrow Wilson

1964 -John F. Kennedy (if he had not been assassinated)

1968 -Hubert Humphrey

1976 -Gerald Ford

1980 -Nelson Rockefeller (if he remained as Ford's running-mate)

2000 -Al Gore
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« Reply #46 on: June 05, 2005, 02:19:14 PM »


Why?
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« Reply #47 on: June 05, 2005, 02:27:38 PM »


on second thought, i should have left that one to Truman.

the thing is, i casually chose Dewey because 1948 was a close election, and he was ahead for most of the campaign season until just before election day, so i gave him the election.  i didn't put much thought into this choice, to be honest. 
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« Reply #48 on: June 05, 2005, 02:47:58 PM »

1996 - Your mom!

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« Reply #49 on: June 05, 2005, 03:11:26 PM »

I'd change my vote to 1980 instead. That eliminates Reagan, thus eliminating Bush I as well and thus his terrible idiotic son also. Three birds with one stone.
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