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http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/03/the_1st_quarter_1.html
As The Hotline notes, five of the "big six" candidates are already raising $ for the general election as well, but of course that general election $ can't be used for the primary, so it's irrelevant from the perspective of the primary. So the "real numbers" will be the $ raised for the primary, whereas the following predictions include both primary and general:
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Straight to the point: here are our final predictions, based on reporting with key campaign figures and donors. These figures represent totals -- money raised for both the primary AND the general election accounts.
Yes -- this means that most candidates will be well under the expectations set for them by the media (us included).
Sen. Hillary Clinton will raise between $23M and $28M.
Sen. John McCain will raise between $18M and $22M.
Sen. Barack Obama will raise between $18M and $24M.
Ex-MA Gov. Mitt Romney will raise between $19M and $21M. ** Romney is not raising general election money yet.
Ex-Sen. John Edwards will raise between $13M and $17M.
Ex-NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani will raise between $12M and $15M.
These figures do not include transfers from other accounts or from the final quarter of '06.
Yes, we're saying that Sen. Obama could outraise HRC.
Burn rates are more difficult to forecast. If Sen. Hillary Clinton winds up with about $16M in the bank, that would track our expectations. Sen. Obama would impress us if he kept about $10-12M. Sen. McCain would need to keep around $15M. Gov. Mitt Romney should have more than $10M in the bank. Edwards and Giuliani will have less.
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Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
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im predicting chris dodd raised $100 or so.
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Quote from: Mr. Morden on March 30, 2007, 09:18:01 am
These figures do not include transfers from other accounts or from the final quarter of '06.
Wow. So Hillary Clinton's projected fundraising of $23 - $28 million dosen't even include the $11 million she transferred from her Senate account? Damn - that means she will have raised between $34 and $39 million.
Quote from: WalterMitty on March 30, 2007, 04:34:37 pm
im predicting chris dodd raised $100 or so.
Yeh....as Chairman of the uber-powerful Banking Committee, absolutley
no one
wants to give him any money
. He'll probably raise $8-$9 million.
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Quote from: WalterMitty on March 30, 2007, 04:34:37 pm
im predicting chris dodd raised $100 or so.
Did you donate $100?
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Quote from: Eraserhead on March 30, 2007, 10:36:52 pm
Quote from: WalterMitty on March 30, 2007, 04:34:37 pm
im predicting chris dodd raised $100 or so.
Did you donate $100?
hah! no.
in that case my prediction may be a bit high.
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Word is that Edwards has over $14M. $1M of that is for the general election.
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Quote from: jfern on April 01, 2007, 04:54:54 pm
Word is that Edwards has over $14M. $1M of that is for the general election.
Meh.
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This sounds like bull to me but I'm hearing rumors that Obama raised like $35 million. I'm thinking about $23 million sounds about right.
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Quote from: Eraserhead on April 01, 2007, 06:25:20 pm
This sounds like bull to me but I'm hearing rumors that Obama raised like $35 million. I'm thinking about $23 million sounds about right.
according to the reports in the Atlas News Aggregator Obama has raised somewhere around $22 million. Clinton raised about $26 million plus another $10 million left over from her Senate campaign.
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"In the Republican presidential primary, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee told CNN he expected to raise $500,000 in the first quarter and show $300,000 in the bank."
WOW, THATS A LOT OF MONEY !
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Quote from: Harry Haller on April 02, 2007, 07:37:42 am
"In the Republican presidential primary, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee told CNN he expected to raise $500,000 in the first quarter and show $300,000 in the bank."
That's pretty bad....though not as bad as Gilmore:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0307/3335.html
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Gilmore did not hold his first fundraiser until Monday, a week before the end of the first quarter. His campaign consultant, Christian Josi, said Gilmore raised $200,000 and will pick up the fundraising pace in the second quarter.
OK, so it looks like Gilmore and Huckabee are likely out of the running for 4th place in the GOP $ race this quarter. I wonder who's going to come in 4th. I guess it would either be Brownback, Hunter, or T. Thompson.
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Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
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Quote from: Mr. Morden on April 02, 2007, 08:29:56 am
Quote from: Harry Haller on April 02, 2007, 07:37:42 am
"In the Republican presidential primary, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee told CNN he expected to raise $500,000 in the first quarter and show $300,000 in the bank."
That's pretty bad....though not as bad as Gilmore:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0307/3335.html
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Gilmore did not hold his first fundraiser until Monday, a week before the end of the first quarter. His campaign consultant, Christian Josi, said Gilmore raised $200,000 and will pick up the fundraising pace in the second quarter.
OK, so it looks like Gilmore and Huckabee are likely out of the running for 4th place in the GOP $ race this quarter. I wonder who's going to come in 4th. I guess it would either be Brownback, Hunter, or T. Thompson.
I think Mike Huckabees first campaign goal is to mail every registered voter in the US a ball-pen case with "Mike Huckabee 2008" written across (estimated cost: 200.000 US-$ and gamble and eat away the rest ...
Remember: Bill Cliton didn´t have much money either when he started ...
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Quote from: Harry Haller on April 02, 2007, 08:48:31 am
Remember: Bill Cliton didn´t have much money either when he started ...
But neither did anyone else. No one was raising $6 million a month back then.
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The Hotline is now saying that Romney has raised $23 million for the first quarter, which should put him in the lead on the GOP side. And Giuliani has raised "more than $15 million" for the quarter (though that probably includes some general election $, unlike Romney). They also say "Our educated estimate is that, of the top tier Republicans, McCain will raise the third most amount of money and have the third most on hand."
Ouch. Not good for McCain if that really is the case. Most people were expecting that he'd at least finish ahead of Giuliani.
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Update: Now the Hotline is saying this:
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/04/the_order.html
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So far as we can tell...
1. Romney
2. Clinton or Obama
3. Obama or Clinton.
+++++++++++++++
GAP
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4,5,6: Giuliani, McCain and Edwards
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GAP
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Richardson
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GAP
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Dodd, Biden
Yes, they put Romney ahead of even Clinton. Presumably because more than $3 million of Clinton's $26 million for the quarter is general election $, whereas all of Romney's $23 million is for the primary.
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Another update: The Hotline now says McCain raised just $12.5 million for the first quarter--a bit less than Giuliani and only about half as much as Romney raised:
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/04/mccains_stateme.html
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Quote from: Mr. Morden on April 02, 2007, 01:33:27 pm
Another update: The Hotline now says McCain raised just $12.5 million for the first quarter--a bit less than Giuliani and only about half as much as Romney raised:
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/04/mccains_stateme.html
Hey, he had more donors than Hillary.
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i tried to tell you all romney is a serious candidate.
but no you all wouldnt take my word for it.
OMFG HE FLIP FLOPPED ON ABORTION!!111
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That's an amazing number for Romney.
McCain's total isn't very impressive, but the number of donors is.
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Quote from: WalterMitty on April 02, 2007, 02:17:55 pm
i tried to tell you all romney is a serious candidate.
You honestly believe that the ability to raise a lot of money by maxing out a lot of big-dollar donors in one quarter makes one a serious candidate?
Wow.
Maybe after I hear Romney actually take a position an ANYTHING WHATSOEVER, and then maybe 6 months later if he has managed to not completely flip-flop his position on said issue, I will regard him as a serious candidate.
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Quote from: MikeyCNY on December 27, 2006, 03:20:04 pm
I'm still going out on a limb here and predicting that Tom Vilsack will eventually become the Dem nominee.
The others--Edwards, Hillary, and Obama, have peaked WAY too early
THE BUCKS ARE GOING TO THE FINAL FOUR!!!
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romney absolutely is a serious candidate. ive always predicted him to be the nominee and i stand by that prediction. ( i do not support romney, in fact, im not a big romney fan at all)
this isnt a good day for the dodd campaign. so much for that 7-9 million estimate.
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Quote from: WalterMitty on April 02, 2007, 05:28:42 pm
romney absolutely is a serious candidate. ive always predicted him to be the nominee and i stand by that prediction. ( i do not support romney, in fact, im not a big romney fan at all)
Well, you also predicted that Kerry Healey would beat Deval Patrick, and she ended up getting her ass handed to her. So don't take it personally when I say I don't put too much stock in your predictions.
Quote from: WalterMitty on April 02, 2007, 05:28:42 pm
this isnt a good day for the dodd campaign. so much for that 7-9 million estimate.
Well, he raised $4 million and transferred $5 million from his Senate account for a total of $9 million, so he did raise $9 million if you count the transfer. Either way, it's sure a heck of a lot more than the $100 you predicted he would raise.
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Quote from: MikeyCNY on December 27, 2006, 03:20:04 pm
I'm still going out on a limb here and predicting that Tom Vilsack will eventually become the Dem nominee.
The others--Edwards, Hillary, and Obama, have peaked WAY too early
THE BUCKS ARE GOING TO THE FINAL FOUR!!!
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Romney certainly is a serious candidate. Nobody raised his kind of money, won as many endorsements or built a comparatively strong organization the way he did. Romney ran a more sophisticated campaign in a month than people like McCain did in four years! I don't think he'd make a strong general election candidate at all, but there's hardly any stopping him from winning the GOP nomination.
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Quote from: Deano963 on April 02, 2007, 05:51:51 pm
Quote from: WalterMitty on April 02, 2007, 05:28:42 pm
this isnt a good day for the dodd campaign. so much for that 7-9 million estimate.
Well, he raised $4 million and transferred $5 million from his Senate account for a total of $9 million, so he did raise $9 million if you count the transfer. Either way, it's sure a heck of a lot more than the $100 you predicted he would raise.
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The Obama campaign is being coy. Has everyone else's numbers been released?
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