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Question: What is the most socially conservative large city in the U.S.?
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Chicago
 
#2
Dallas
 
#3
Houston
 
#4
Los Angeles
 
#5
New York City
 
#6
San Antonio
 
#7
San Diego
 
#8
Philadelphia
 
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Phoenix
 
#10
Austin
 
#11
Baltimore
 
#12
Charlotte
 
#13
Columbus
 
#14
Detroit
 
#15
Indianapolis
 
#16
Jacksonville
 
#17
Memphis
 
#18
San Francisco
 
#19
San Jose
 
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« on: April 01, 2007, 03:56:05 PM »

I'd say Dallas, followed by Memphis.
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« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2007, 07:27:12 PM »

Probably Jacksonville and Dallas.

Isn't Memphis a strongly Democratic city?
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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2007, 07:38:28 PM »

I'm guessing we're talking strictly in the city limits?  Because that's what you used to categorize the cities as "large"

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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2007, 07:39:09 PM »

I'm incognizant of the actual cities themselves, but I believe that the counties containing Jacksonville and Phoenix have consistently voted Republican over the past few decades.
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« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2007, 08:19:59 PM »

Isn't Memphis a strongly Democratic city?

Memphis's county (Shelby) is majority-black yet only 57.5% for Kerry, so I guess it's very racially divided. Also, I think Shelby voted to ban gay marriage by a strong margin.

I'm incognizant of the actual cities themselves, but I believe that the counties containing Jacksonville and Phoenix have consistently voted Republican over the past few decades.

Phoenix's county (Maricopa) voted against banning ban marriage.
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« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2007, 08:39:02 PM »

Phoenix's county (Maricopa) voted against banning ban marriage.

I'm still bemused at Arizona voting against a gay marriage ban. How the hell does Oregon vote to ban it whereas Arizona votes against?
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« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2007, 08:40:12 PM »

Phoenix's county (Maricopa) voted against banning ban marriage.

I'm still bemused at Arizona voting against a gay marriage ban. How the hell does Oregon vote to ban it whereas Arizona votes against?

The Oregon ban did not include civil unions, the Arizona one did.
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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2007, 08:50:17 PM »

Who voted for Austin?

Anyways, of that list, I would guess Memphis...but I couldn't say with any certainty.
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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2007, 08:59:27 PM »

why is San Francisco on the list?
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« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2007, 09:30:48 PM »

I think that it would help if you define what you mean by socially conservative. If it means being anti-gay and pro-religion, Memphis is a strong candidate. If it means taking responsibility for your life and your family, not at all.
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« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2007, 09:39:54 PM »

why is San Francisco on the list?

I just copied the cities from the other polls of favorite city over 1 million and favorite city with a population 600,000 to 999,999.
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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2007, 09:42:41 PM »

I think that it would help if you define what you mean by socially conservative. If it means being anti-gay and pro-religion, Memphis is a strong candidate. If it means taking responsibility for your life and your family, not at all.

I was thinking of the former, though I wouldn't limit it to anti-gay and pro-religion.

Wouldn't the latter be more economic conservatism?
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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2007, 09:46:23 PM »

I think that it would help if you define what you mean by socially conservative. If it means being anti-gay and pro-religion, Memphis is a strong candidate. If it means taking responsibility for your life and your family, not at all.

I was thinking of the former, though I wouldn't limit it to anti-gay and pro-religion.

Wouldn't the latter be more economic conservatism?

I see what you're saying, but I just can't see a city with teenage pregnancy, drug abuse, high crime, etc, as much as Memphis as being socially conservative. Ditto for the acceptance and often expectation of corruption in local officials.
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« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2007, 10:13:24 PM »

Socially conservative is probably Dallas or Jacksonville. Socially conservative would be more interesting; I think it would probably be San Diego or Phoenix.
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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2007, 01:06:14 AM »

Jacksonville, San Antonio, Memphis and Houston are the top 4, I don't have enough experience with them to say for sure which is the most. Charlotte and Indianapolis are also more conservative than other large cities. Dallas is probably the 2nd most liberal place in Texas (after Austin).

Just because a place votes strongly Democrat doesn't mean its liberal. All the blacks in Cuyahoga, Shelby and Wayne Counties voted strongly in support of banning gay marriage. And Detroit was 90%+ for Kerry! On some cultural issues, Oakland County, MI is more liberal than Detroit.

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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2007, 10:10:42 AM »

Socially conservative is probably Dallas or Jacksonville. Socially conservative would be more interesting; I think it would probably be San Diego or Phoenix.

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« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2007, 11:14:08 AM »

Cities that have annexed what would normally be suburbs in other cities are generally more conservative and Republican. Houston is the best example and is why the city has over two million people. However, I would guess that Jacksonville is the most conservative.
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« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2007, 02:09:18 PM »

With the Texas cities, there is an important distinction between city and metro area. 

Both the cities of Houston and Dallas have sizable gay communities (Houston larger than Dallas) and are full of socially moderate Republicans.  Houston has a sizably greater Hispanic population than Dallas, both have similar black populations.  Both these populations tend to be socially conservative on most issues.  Houston has a good bit more conservative suburbanite Republicans with city limits than Dallas; this has a lot to do with housing concerns.  Therefore, I would clearly say that Houston is more socially conservative than Dallas by a good bit.

When you get into metro areas, that's where the conservative Republicans are in total control in both places.  In metro areas, there is little difference between Houston and Dallas, except that I would give the socially conservative edge to Houston because of the Hispanic thingy.
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« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2007, 02:20:29 PM »

Cities that have annexed what would normally be suburbs in other cities are generally more conservative and Republican. Houston is the best example and is why the city has over two million people. However, I would guess that Jacksonville is the most conservative.

Houston is hard to compare to other cities, since it's really one big suburb, and the city has a severe hatred towards urban planning.  This means that if a suburb is closer to the center of the city, it is not necessarily more conservative and Republican.  Witness northeast Fort Bend County vs. southwest Harris County, where this trait can be found all over the place.

FYI, I should note that the city of Houston is about 61-65% Democrat.  The other 1.6 million in Harris County votes about 70% Republican, giving the total area its generic Republican lean of between 51-55% Republican.  Of course, a good number of these voters are Hispanics, blacks and Chinese (the sizable Vietnamese community in Houston votes Republican), so separate at your will.
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« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2007, 04:43:51 PM »

Houston is hard to compare to other cities, since it's really one big suburb, and the city has a severe hatred towards urban planning.  This means that if a suburb is closer to the center of the city, it is not necessarily more conservative and Republican.  Witness northeast Fort Bend County vs. southwest Harris County, where this trait can be found all over the place.

I'm not familiar of the politics within Texas counties. Can you please elaborate on the last two sentences?
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« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2007, 08:42:20 PM »

Socially conservative is probably Dallas or Jacksonville. Socially conservative would be more interesting; I think it would probably be San Diego or Phoenix.

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Gah! Economically conservative, of course.
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