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DownWithTheLeft
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« Reply #50 on: April 15, 2007, 08:07:19 AM »

Yea guess I really didn't think these two together
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« Reply #51 on: April 15, 2007, 09:57:17 AM »
Quote from: Sen. DownWithTheLeft on April 14, 2007, 11:29:55 AM
Get an abortion without parental involvement? never
I know he meant that you shouldn't be able to get an abortion with parental involvement either... but I just had to imagine a country where 35-year old women needed their 75 year old dad's approval to have an abortion. Smiley
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« Reply #52 on: April 15, 2007, 10:11:15 AM »
Quote from: Alcon on April 13, 2007, 04:30:58 PM
I still would really, really love to hear someone give a practical explanation for having a minimum age requirement for birth control, and why the current system of having no limit doesn't work.
They're christian prudes. That's why.
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« Reply #53 on: June 04, 2007, 05:03:23 PM »
Quote from: Alcon on April 13, 2007, 04:30:58 PM
I still would really, really love to hear someone give a practical explanation for having a minimum age requirement for birth control, and why the current system of having no limit doesn't work.

Whilst physical barrier protection should be freely available to all, I honestly have no idea what effect giving a 6 year old girl the pill would be, so I couldn't endorse legalising it or other medicinal birth control.
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« Reply #54 on: June 04, 2007, 05:54:16 PM »
« Edited: June 04, 2007, 05:57:28 PM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »
Buy birth control?  NO LIMIT
Have sex? 16ish
Get an abortion without parental involvement? NO LIMIT
Drink alcohol? 18
Buy alcohol? 21
Smoke cigarettes? 18
Buy cigarettes? 21
Watch a pornographic film? 14
Star in a pornographic film? 18
Drive? 18
Be able to drop out of school? 16
Rent your own apartment? 16
Own your own business?  NO LIMIT
Go to a strip club? 18
Fight a bull? 18
Choose to go to a different place of worship than your parents? NO LIMIT
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« Reply #55 on: June 04, 2007, 05:55:20 PM »
Quote from: fezzyfestoon on June 04, 2007, 05:49:10 PM
Buy birth control? No age requirement.
Have sex? No age requirement.
Get an abortion without parental involvement? N/A.
Drink alcohol? No age requirement.
Buy alcohol? 18.
Smoke cigarettes? No age requirement.
Buy cigarettes? 18.
Watch a pornographic film? No age requirement.
Star in a pornographic film? 18.
Drive? 18, pass difficult test.
Be able to drop out of school? 18.
Rent your own apartment? 18.
Own your own business? 18.
Go to a strip club? 18.
Fight a bull? 18.
Choose to go to a different place of worship than your parents? No age requirement.

Ahhh!  I agree!

Surprise, surprise!

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« Reply #56 on: June 04, 2007, 10:23:36 PM »
Buy birth control? no age restriction
Have sex? whenever you are ready, i guess
Get an abortion without parental involvement? no age restriction
Drink alcohol? 16
Buy alcohol? 16
Smoke cigarettes? never
Buy cigarettes? never
Watch a pornographic film? 16
Star in a pornographic film? 18
Drive? 18
Be able to drop out of school? never
Rent your own apartment? 18
Own your own business? 18
Go to a strip club? 18
Fight a bull? havent ever thought about it really
Choose to go to a different place of worship than your parents? no age restriction, hopefully you choose well
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« Reply #57 on: June 05, 2007, 12:39:18 PM »
Changed my views on this a bit

Buy birth control? No age restriction
Have sex? 15
Get an abortion without parental involvement? 18
Drink alcohol? No age restrictions
Buy alcohol? 16. This also goes for drinking in public
Smoke cigarettes? No age restrictions
Buy cigarettes? 16
Watch a pornographic film? no age restrictions
Star in a pornographic film? 15
Drive? 18(most Euro countries do this...)
Be able to drop out of school? 18
Rent your own apartment? 18
Own your own business? 18
Go to a strip club? 15
Fight a bull? 18
Choose to go to a different place of worship than your parents? No age restriction
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« Reply #58 on: June 06, 2007, 07:22:06 PM »
Buy birth control? 18 w/o parental consent, 12 or so with
Have sex? Legally?13 with same age group, 18 with any, sliding scale between. Practically? When the kid is ready, which usually at some point between 15 and 30.
Get an abortion without parental involvement?  I think abortion should only be performed when the mother's life is at risk, so it should be handled the same as any other such medical procedure - for under-18 it is preferred, but if there is a provable risk, then any age.
Drink alcohol? Any age, in small amounts.  At a restaurant? 18.
Buy alcohol? 18
Smoke cigarettes? depends on person. I'd say 15-16.
Buy cigarettes? 18
Watch a pornographic film? Soft-core, 12-13. Hard-core, 18.
Star in a pornographic film? 18, maybe 16 if we're talking really soft-core
Drive? 15-16, depending on driving conditions.
Be able to drop out of school? 15 or 16, but "able" is not "should".
Rent your own apartment? 18 overall, younger for orphans and very independent people
Own your own business? 7 or 8 for lemonade-stand things, 13 for a more serious venture.
Go to a strip club? 13-18, depending on how hard-core it is.
Fight a bull? 18, although it isn't a good idea at any age.
Choose to go to a different place of worship than your parents? No legal age. Practical age? around 14-17, depending on the person.

You forgot "Be able to rent a car (at a reasonable price)" which I'd say 18.
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« Reply #59 on: June 06, 2007, 08:09:54 PM »
It is hypocritical to have different ages for these different privledges. It should all be one standard age so I'd say 18 across the board.
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« Reply #60 on: June 06, 2007, 09:47:38 PM »

Buy birth control? Must require prescription of course
Have sex? --> no sex with minors
Get an abortion without parental involvement? 21
Drink alcohol? 21
Buy alcohol? 21
Smoke cigarettes? 21
Buy cigarettes? 21
Watch a pornographic film? 18
Star in a pornographic film? 21
Drive? 16
Be able to drop out of school? 18
Rent your own apartment? 18
Own your own business? 18
Go to a strip club? 21
Fight a bull? 21
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« Reply #61 on: June 06, 2007, 11:41:46 PM »
Quote from: DJ09 on June 06, 2007, 09:47:38 PM
Buy birth control? Must require prescription of course

Wow, a prescription to buy a pack of condoms? No more vending machines for them I guess.

Quote from: DJ09 on June 06, 2007, 09:47:38 PM
Get an abortion without parental involvement? 21

So adults living with no involvement from parents whatsoever need permission?


There are strip clubs that don't serve alcohol you know.
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« Reply #62 on: June 07, 2007, 12:59:42 PM »
Buy birth control? No minimum.
Have sex? Puberty. In judicial cases decide on case-by-case basis.
Get an abortion without parental involvement? Shouldn't get an abortion in the first place.
Drink alcohol? No minimum.
Buy alcohol? No minimum.
Smoke cigarettes? No minimum.
Buy cigarettes? No minimum.
Watch a pornographic film? No minimum.
Star in a pornographic film? Puberty. In judicial cases decide on case-by-case basis.
Drive? 14
Be able to drop out of school? No minimum.
Rent your own apartment? No minimum.
Own your own business? No minimum.
Go to a strip club? No minimum.
Fight a bull? No minimum.
Choose to go to a different place of worship than your parents? No minimum.
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« Reply #63 on: August 03, 2007, 06:10:25 PM »
Buy birth control? No age restriction
Have sex? --> 18
Get an abortion without parental involvement? 21
Drink alcohol? 18
Buy alcohol? 18
Smoke cigarettes? 18
Buy cigarettes? 18
Watch a pornographic film? 18
Star in a pornographic film? 21
Drive? 16
Be able to drop out of school? 18
Rent your own apartment? 18
Own your own business? 18
Go to a strip club? 21
Fight a bull? 18
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« Reply #64 on: August 03, 2007, 06:33:11 PM »
Quote from: CPT MikeyMike on June 06, 2007, 08:09:54 PM
It is hypocritical to have different ages for these different privledges. It should all be one standard age so I'd say 18 across the board.

I really, really wish schools taught people what the meaning of the word "hypocritical" is. Tongue
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« Reply #65 on: August 03, 2007, 06:41:50 PM »
Buy birth control?  no age limit
Have sex?  In general, 16, though I would not codify that.  As far as "statutory rape" goes, 18, unless you're within four years of age of the person you're having sex with.
Get an abortion without parental involvement? 18
Drink alcohol? 21, though I'd allow 18 w/parental supervision
Buy alcohol? 21
Smoke cigarettes? 18
Buy cigarettes? 18
Watch a pornographic film? 18
Star in a pornographic film? 18
Drive? 17
Be able to drop out of school? 18
Rent your own apartment? 18
Own your own business? 18
Go to a strip club? 18
Fight a bull? 18
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« Reply #66 on: August 03, 2007, 06:43:04 PM »
Buy birth control? Any time after menstration
Have sex? 14, with parental consent; 18 without
Get an abortion without parental involvement? Whenever the women is pregnant
Drink alcohol? Parental decision
Buy alcohol? Parental/Storeowner decision
Smoke cigarettes? Parental decision
Buy cigarettes? Parental/Storeowner decision
Watch a pornographic film? Parental decision
Star in a pornographic film? 18
Drive? 14/Whenever they're qualified
Be able to drop out of school? Parental/Student decision
Rent your own apartment? 18
Own your own business? 18
Go to a strip club? Parental/Strip club owner decision
Fight a bull? Parental decision
Choose to go to a different place of worship than your parents? Any age
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« Reply #67 on: August 03, 2007, 06:44:04 PM »
Quote from: Lt. Gov. South Park Conservative on August 03, 2007, 06:43:04 PM
Have sex? 14, with parental consent; 18 without
Get an abortion without parental involvement? Whenever the women is pregnant

Okay.....
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« Reply #68 on: August 03, 2007, 06:53:49 PM »
how old should you have to be to listen to music?

man, my son got into some ancient cassette tapes.  most were abruptly destroyed.  I suppose it's such fun to pull that polymer film out while twisting and dancing.  the first few times it happened, I freaked.  now, I'm pretty much used to it, and thank whatever gods there be that I'm not a generation older, in which case tapes would represent the majority of my collection and certainly the latest most modern data storage devices.  He's also pretty good at trying to destroy CDs, but they're somewhat sturdier.

Unfortunately, he has discovered an old Chants and Mantras tape by Swami Prabhubada.  Or somebody who looks vaguely like a Seven-Up bottle.  In the sense of a big red dot prominently placed.  So now it's Chants and Mantras every night.  What the hell was I thinking when I bought that?  Lamalamalama ya ya ya ramaramarama mantra om ma ne pad me heeeee.  Man, this sucks.  And he gets upset if I try to turn it off.

well, it could be worse.  I should be glad that he hasn't discovered the Dave Matthews yet.  Or "The Bodyguard" sountrack.  Ouch.  How old should you have to be to buy music?  At least 30.
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« Reply #69 on: August 03, 2007, 07:03:45 PM »
Quote from: angus on August 03, 2007, 06:53:49 PM
How old should you have to be to buy music?  At least 30.

then everyone will just download it Smiley
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« Reply #70 on: August 03, 2007, 07:39:36 PM »
Buy birth control? 16
Have sex? 18
Get an abortion without parental involvement? 16
Drink alcohol? 18
Buy alcohol? 20
Smoke cigarettes? Preferably never, if you're dumb enough to then 21
Buy cigarettes? Preferably never, if you're dumb enough to then 21
Watch a pornographic film? 20 (but preferably never)
Star in a pornographic film? Preferably never, if you're dumb enough to then 18
Drive? 16 (get license), 18 (drive freely)
Be able to drop out of school? 16
Rent your own apartment? 16
Own your own business? 18
Go to a strip club? 18
Fight a bull? 20
Choose to go to a different place of worship than your parents? No age restriction
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« Reply #71 on: August 03, 2007, 07:45:57 PM »
Quote from: Ebowed on August 03, 2007, 07:03:45 PM
Quote from: angus on August 03, 2007, 06:53:49 PM
How old should you have to be to buy music?  At least 30.

then everyone will just download it Smiley

yeah, but somehow that Dave Matthews CD wouldn't be quite as embarrassing if everyone knew it was free.
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« Reply #72 on: August 03, 2007, 07:46:38 PM »
« Edited: August 03, 2007, 07:52:43 PM by Nick Charles »
Buy birth control? - 14

Have sex? - 16

Get an abortion without parental involvement? - 14

Drink alcohol? - 18

Buy alcohol? - 18

Smoke cigarettes? - 18

Buy cigarettes? - 18

Watch a pornographic film? - 18

Star in a pornographic film? - 18

Drive? - 16

Be able to drop out of school? - 16

Rent your own apartment? - 16
 
Own your own business? - 16

Go to a strip club? - 16

Fight a bull? - 18 (why you want to though...)

Choose to go to a different place of worship than your parents? - any age
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« Reply #73 on: August 04, 2007, 12:36:28 AM »
Quote from: Nick Charles on August 03, 2007, 07:46:38 PM
Buy birth control? - 14

Have sex? - 16

Get an abortion without parental involvement? - 14

Drink alcohol? - 18

Buy alcohol? - 18

Smoke cigarettes? - 18

Buy cigarettes? - 18

Watch a pornographic film? - 18

Star in a pornographic film? - 18

Drive? - 16

Be able to drop out of school? - 16

Rent your own apartment? - 16
 
Own your own business? - 16

Go to a strip club? - 16

Fight a bull? - 18 (why you want to though...)

Choose to go to a different place of worship than your parents? - any age

No! The correct answer is 17.

Actually...I pretty much agree with this.
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« Reply #74 on: August 04, 2007, 12:08:04 PM »
Time to reveal my authoritarian side Wink

Buy birth control? 16
Have sex? 16
Get an abortion without parental involvement? Prohibited, unless on the grounds of maternal life, rape or incest with or without parental involvement
Drink alcohol? 18
Buy alcohol? 18
Smoke cigarettes? 18
Buy cigarettes? 18
Watch a pornographic film? 18
Star in a pornographic film? 18
Drive? 17
Be able to drop out of school? 16
Rent your own apartment? 16
Own your own business? 16
Go to a strip club? 18
Fight a bull? 18
Choose to go to a different place of worship than your parents? 14

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