Requirements for a Political Party Bill

[Јas]

I offer no advice, but if it will help, I'll vote a belated Aye on the amendment.

Good enough for me, I am deeming the amendment passed 3-2-1.

I appeciate that this may be procedurally irregular - displeased Senators should feel free to challenge the decision with the Court and give them something to do.

[Ebowed]

We are voting on the amendment to strike Section 2, Clauses 6 and 7.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Aye

[Brandon H]

Aye

[Colin]

Aye

[The Man From G.O.P.]

Aye

[Јas]

Aye

[Ebowed]

Voting has expired.  The amendment passes.

[Ebowed]

I motion that a new section be added,

Exceptions

1. Parties that have been active for more than three years are excempt from classification under the Designations and Requirements sections of this bill.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I motion that a new section be added,

Exceptions

1. Parties that have been active for more than three years are excempt from classification under the Designations and Requirements sections of this bill.

Blatant discrimination against new parties.

[Brandon H]

I motion that a new section be added,

Exceptions

1. Parties that have been active for more than three years are excempt from classification under the Designations and Requirements sections of this bill.

Although I'm strongly leaning nay on this, could the Senator define 'active'? Does that simply mean 'in existence' or something else?

[Ebowed]

I motion that a new section be added,

Exceptions

1. Parties that have been active for more than three years are excempt from classification under the Designations and Requirements sections of this bill.

Although I'm strongly leaning nay on this, could the Senator define 'active'? Does that simply mean 'in existence' or something else?

Containing at least one member who has not missed an election.

[Brandon H]

Could the SoFA provide his input on how realistically possible it is for him to go back three years to check that at least one member of a party has voted in every federal election since that time?

[Јas]

Could the SoFA provide his input on how realistically possible it is for him to go back three years to check that at least one member of a party has voted in every federal election since that time?

Well given that only one party has lasted that long, it's really a matter of checking if one of its members did so. I'd presume that this is the case for the party in question, otherwise the amendment is pointless.

[Gabu]

Could the SoFA provide his input on how realistically possible it is for him to go back three years to check that at least one member of a party has voted in every federal election since that time?

Since people come and go from political parties, I would need a full list of the membership of every party at the time of every election in the last three years.  As far as I know, no such list exists, and I don't believe it would be possible to put one together.

So no, I believe that that would be literally impossible in general.  In the case of the JCP, though, it would basically be a simple matter of checking whether or not Jesus voted in every election (which I believe he has).

[Brandon H]

So if a party with 5 or 10 members eventually does that it would be impossible to tell while a party with 1 member would be easy to tell. So this requirement could not be measured in a uniformed manner for all parties?

[Ebowed]

We are voting on the following Amendment:

Exceptions

1. Parties that have been active for more than three years are excempt from classification under the Designations and Requirements sections of this bill.

Aye

[Colin]

Nay

[Brandon H]

Nay

[Јas]

Nay

[Gabu]

So if a party with 5 or 10 members eventually does that it would be impossible to tell while a party with 1 member would be easy to tell. So this requirement could not be measured in a uniformed manner for all parties?

Well, basically, enacting this would require one of two things: either for the SoFA to keep track of the registrations of every party that is ever made in Atlasia, or for the parties themselves to each keep track of their own registrations.  I don't think either is particularly fair to the people involved, especially considering the lack of any real benefit that I can see.

[Brandon H]

Well, basically, enacting this would require one of two things: either for the SoFA to keep track of the registrations of every party that is ever made in Atlasia, or for the parties themselves to each keep track of their own registrations.  I don't think either is particularly fair to the people involved, especially considering the lack of any real benefit that I can see.

Thank you Mr. SoFA. I appreciate your input.

[Gabu]

Well, basically, enacting this would require one of two things: either for the SoFA to keep track of the registrations of every party that is ever made in Atlasia, or for the parties themselves to each keep track of their own registrations.  I don't think either is particularly fair to the people involved, especially considering the lack of any real benefit that I can see.

Thank you Mr. SoFA. I appreciate your input.

No problem.

[The Man From G.O.P.]

Sorry Brandon, for this I Abstain

[Ebowed]

I would like to withdraw the amendment.


Unless further comment is made, I hope to open voting on final passage in 24 hours.