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[CARLHAYDEN]

From his quote it seems like Coburn believes that Gonzales should resign as a way to stop any further investigation into the matter rather than resigning for his role in the whole debacle.

The fact that Coburn is so far to the Right on most issues leads me to believe that this is nothing but a political ploy on his part.

First, Coburn is a good guy.  Have you considered that YOU have gone so far out in extreme left field that You are out of touch with reality.

Second, Gonzalez is a scum bag and a lot of conservatives in Congress hate him for his efforts to avoid enforcing laws with respect to illegal aliens.

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From his quote it seems like Coburn believes that Gonzales should resign as a way to stop any further investigation into the matter rather than resigning for his role in the whole debacle.

The fact that Coburn is so far to the Right on most issues leads me to believe that this is nothing but a political ploy on his part.

First, Coburn is a good guy.  Have you considered that YOU have gone so far out in extreme left field that You are out of touch with reality.

Second, Gonzalez is a scum bag and a lot of conservatives in Congress hate him for his efforts to avoid enforcing laws with respect to illegal aliens.

Well Carl, reality is open to perception... Being far left and far right depends upon how the person looks at it. To me, you are so far right that you are bat-sh*t crazy, but does that mean my view of you would stack up the same as say States?... I doubt States thinks you are far right, because he is conservative, himself.

I also love your little covert style "illegal alien" addition... Once again you prove your near one track mind... Clearly, there are more important issues... Why don't you focus your energies on say... I don't know... Making arguements against abortion or something for awhile...

First, from you, being called "far right" is a compliment.  You are so far off in extreme left field that moderates look "far right" to you.

Second, I will allow StatesRights to speak for himself. 

Third, facts are facts.  There are a lot of members of the Senate who are very unhappy with Gonzalez over his failure to enforce the laws with respect to illegal aliens.

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You really have difficulty understanding basic English.

First, what I said was that being called names by YOU was a compliment, since YOU have really gone far, far out in extreme left wing.

Second, you really should take some time and converse with elected officials, and their staff. 

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You really have difficulty understanding basic English.

First, wWhat I said was that being called names by YOU was a compliment, since YOU have really gone far, far out in extreme left wing.

Second, you really should take some time and converse with elected officials, and their staff. 

I believe that this is pretty much what you said last time. You are a broken record, and a really ignorant one at that. You havent done anything other than avoid anything Dr. Cynic says and instead interject your repetitive rhetoric.

I'm sorry, but you posting seemed a little incoherent to me.

Now, to clarify what you seem to misunderstand.  If you have bothered to examine any of the 'political compass' type sites, you will find that I pretty consistently come out as a moderate conservative.

So, no I would not like a normal person alledging "...you are so far right that you are bat-sh*t crazy...," as Dr. Cynic stated. 

However, I would not expect a normal person to use such language.  It is however something I have come to expect from him.  So, being called "far right" by Dr. Cynic means one is quite moderate.

Also, I do not recall in this thread previously recommending one contact "elected officials, and their staff."  So, this is new, and not "repetitive."  If you can cite where I previously brought this up in this thread, please feel free to post it in a reply.

Now, I would really suggest you both update, and avoid mixing, your metaphors.  Most posters at this forum are rather youngish and might not understand you "broken record" reference, and I must confess that that I have never met a sentient "record," hence none that is "ignorant." 

Oh, and BTW, why don't you post your results from some of the quizes in the Politics Quiz List.  Of course, subtle differences will result from different quizes depending upon questions asked, phrasing, intensity, etc., but, they constitute a reality check:

Vote Match Quizzes/Politics Match Quiz says I am a: Moderate Conservative

Selectsmart 2006 Political Ideology Selectors says I am a:  Moderate Conservative

The Political Matrix (English oriented) describes me as "Centre"

The Politcal Compass: 2.0 Econimic, -1.08 Social

So, go ahead and post yours! 

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First, I will admit that I am unfamiliar with the wording "judding."  Is this a typo, a term used in your social set, or just a word you made up?

Second, I am not suprised that you have "very far left scores" (to use your words) at the various political quizzes.  Its nice of you to admit it.

Third, I suggest that my analysis is a little more accurate than yours or Dr. Cynic, as mine coincides with the results of the various tests I listed, and yours does not.

Fourth, "brainwashing" is neither a "conversation" nor a "discourse." 

Main Entry: brain·wash·ing
Pronunciation: 'brAn-"wo-shi[ng], -"wä-
Function: noun

a forcible indoctrination to induce someone to give up basic political, social, or religious beliefs and attitudes and to accept contrasting regimented ideas

Main Entry: con·ver·sa·tion
Pronunciation: "kän-v&r-'sA-sh&n
Function: noun

oral exchange of sentiments, observations, opinions, or ideas

Main Entry: 1dis·course
Pronunciation: 'dis-"kors, dis-'
Function: noun

verbal interchange of ideas

[CARLHAYDEN]

I'm sorry, but you posting seemed a little incoherent to me.

Yeah I hate it when people can't correct there grammer.  At least your decent enough to have perfect english.

Sorry, but I never claimed to have perfect English.

However, the post to which I referred was incoherent.

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First, lets look at the meaning of the term, "incoherent."

Incoherent
Main Entry: in·co·her·ent
Function: adjective
lacking coherence:  lacking cohesion : LOOSE b : lacking orderly continuity, arrangement, or relevance : INCONSISTENT <an incoherent essay> c : lacking normal clarity or intelligibility in speech or thought.

Now, lets look at the quotation which I described as "incoherent."

"You are a broken record, and a really ignorant one at that. You havent done anything other than avoid anything Dr. Cynic says and instead interject your repetitive rhetoric."

Lets take that clause by clause:

The "you are a broken record" is simply a incorrect (and somewhat dated) attempt at a 'simile.'

Main Entry: sim·i·le
Function: noun
a figure of speech comparing two unlike things that is often introduced by like or as

As people are not things and things are not people, but it can be contended that they may share certain qualities.   As an example, it would be gramatically correct to say that Ebowed has all the intelligence of a doorknob, as opposed to saying Ebowed is a doorknob.

With respect to the second clause, "and a really ignorant one at that," I have yet to see a phonograph record (which I am tentatively guessing he was referring to when he spoke of "a broken record,) which is either knowledgeable or ignorant.  If you know of such phonograph records, please advise Ripley.  Or, perhaps SOS was referring to some other type of "record" which was broken.  If so, please advise me of the type of "record" to which he was reffing, as it is not clearly obvious in context.

As to the "...you haven't done anything other than avoid anything..." clause, if you find that coherent, I suggest that you take it to an English instructor and explain to them just what it means.

As to the "interject your repetetive rhetoric,"  let me simply note that to "reply" is not to "interject" (if you want, I'll get you the definitions of those two terms), and my statement corrected a mistatement by another poster, who mischaracterized one of my posts.

Now, we in southern Arizona have Patios not "porches," and wonderful conveniences like air conditioning.

It seems to me from your last post, you might want to cool off.

Oh, and BTW, perhaps, since you are so knowledgeable, you can tell me the definition of "judding".

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Oh gracious, you know how to use a dictionary.  Maybe your tactic is to scare off anyone who dares dispute you through sheer longetivity.  How original!

You don't see how a phonograph record can be ignorant?  You yourself acknowledged that he was using a literary technique, so why the sudden literalism?  I mean, really, is that the best you can come up with?  If you're going to interpret a metaphor (do you know what a simile is?) literally, you can't recognize that it's not meant to be read literally before you do so.  That's common sense.

Was the post badly phrased?  Sure.  That's not the same thing as incoherent.  We can still understand what it says, and we can understand the meaning.  You are pretending that you can't just because you have nothing else to argue on.

Now, check outside on your fancy patio, rich white boy.  Looks like one of the Mexicans is pregnant.  Two birds with one bullet!

I am still waiting for your explanation of the meaning of "...you haven't done anything other than avoid anything..'

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Ah, so you admit that you don't know the difference between a metaphor and a simile?  Maybe your self-appointed status as the forum's English Linguistics King should be revisited.

It's not really hard; maybe you're having trouble understanding it because you took it out of context?  The actual quote is "...you haven't done anything other than avoid anything Dr. Cynic says."  Now, while it may have been better served under the wording "...you haven't done anything other than avoid what Dr. Cynic says," it's perfectly understandable.

What did you mean by "for your explanation of the"?  I don't understand it lol!

Please take your understanding of that actual quote to an English instructor and tell them its perfectly understandable.

Oh, and go ahead and laught as well.

Perhaps you can get the help you clearly need.