Acceptance of Science Bill [Failed]

[DownWithTheLeft]

Nay

[PBrunsel]

This bill is a boondoggle of secular progressive hogwash. The very idea that we should stop certain things from being taught in schools is simply anti-freedom. It rings of the Tennessee laws against evolution in the 1920s.

I vote NAY because I respect the individual human mind, and hearing all sides of debate. I urge all to oppose this act which is anti-free speech, anti-thought, and nothing but an attempt by our honorable President Pro Tempore to indoctrinate children. It is sick, and I vote nay!

[Ebowed]

Aye.

Let me respond to the concerns of Sen. PBrunsel and also invite the other three Senators to give some sound reasoning for voting against this bill.

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This is absolutely not true.  If the government is to spend money funding education, it has
a.) the right to make determinations about what is or is not appropriate to teach, and more importantly
b.) the responsibility to stop teachers from indoctrinating children into certain belief systems or urban myths.

I could apply all of the things you just said to a bill which would stop children from being taught that two plus two equals five.  This is just an effort to bring some accountability into the school systems.  Also note that in fact, no 'ban' on any of these things being taught has taken place.  Schools wishing to incorporate these things into their cirriculums will simply be required to forgo their federal funding.

[Sam Spade]

I am against the bill for two main reasons:

First, the negative effect it will have upon the Southeast's voucher program.

Second, a number of the clauses are simply not factually proven in a definitive way to make government discouraging of their teachings through withdrawal of tax moneys ok in my view.  A couple of the clauses I do not personally agree with.

Actually, there are other reasons I can give, but I will stop here.

[Rob]

Aye.

[Јas]

Current Tally on Final Vote

Aye: 2 (Ebowed; Rob)
Nay: 4 (Sam; BrandonH; DWTL; PBrunsel)
Yet to Vote: 3 (Al; Lewis; Phil)

[minionofmidas]

Aye.

[DownWithTheLeft]

I am against this bill because not only does it unfairly discriminate against the South, the bill has no merits other than the sponsor likes to take shots at religion.  None of things actually help children broaden their horizons, just instead of brainwashing them with Christian theories, with brainwash them with non-Christian theories.  There has to be a balance.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Aye

I wouldn't have voted for the orginal bill and I have a few issues with the bill in it's current form, but they are relatively trivial.

[Keystone Phil]

Nay

[Ebowed]

I am against this bill because not only does it unfairly discriminate against the South

It doesn't specifically target any one region.  If schools which teach these sorts of things are predominantly in the South, that is an unintentional side effect, not an expected result.  The bill itself is totally neutral, at least until you had to find a better excuse to vote against it.

[Јas]

Current Tally on Final Vote
Aye: 4 (Ebowed; Rob; Lewis; Al)
Nay: 5 (Sam; BrandonH; DWTL; PBrunsel; Phil)
Yet to Vote: 0

The bill having garnered enough votes to fail, Senators have 24 hours from now within which they may change their votes.

[Јas]

Final Vote
Aye: 4 (Ebowed; Rob; Lewis; Al)
Nay: 5 (Sam; BrandonH; DWTL; PBrunsel; Phil)
Yet to Vote: 0

The Acceptance of Science Bill fails the final vote 4-5-0 and is removed from the Senate floor.

[Bono]

AAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIBA!!!!!





 

[Hash]

NO!

[DownWithTheLeft]

I am very glad we were able to fail this bill for the good of the Southeast and the whole country to promote intellectual freedom.  This is a victory for free speech!

[Ebowed]

This is a victory for free speech!

This bill had nothing to do with free speech.

[DownWithTheLeft]

This is a victory for free speech!

This bill had nothing to do with free speech.

It does, your bill was trying to limit what a school could talk about and teach.

[CultureKing]