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« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2007, 06:55:28 pm »
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Richardson does not strike me as being comfortable.
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« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2007, 06:58:01 pm »
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Richardson does not strike me as being comfortable.

Yeah, he looks kind of sick. For me Clinton and Obama are the most solid so far.
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« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2007, 07:21:48 pm »
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Clinton, Obama, and Biden have done the rest so far.

Kucinich has been good as well, but he's not playing to win.

Dodd, Richardson, and Edwards have done poorly.
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« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2007, 07:27:03 pm »
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Biden actually comes off pretty well when his answers are limited to 60 seconds.  He should speak in 1 min. intervals for the rest of the campaign.
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« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2007, 07:27:56 pm »
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Gravel: "Barack, who are you going to nuke ?" Tongue
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« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2007, 07:31:40 pm »
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They sound like a bunch of nuts.
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« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2007, 07:34:27 pm »
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Not even one question about trade or the deficit. Not one question about the decline of the middle class.  Not one question about poverty in America.

Almost a half an hour on guns and abortion. So much for the liberal media......
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« Reply #32 on: April 26, 2007, 07:34:57 pm »
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final ratings:

Obama--A
Biden--A-
Clinton--B+
Dodd--C+
Edwards--C
Richardson--D

I was pretty surprised at the poor performance of Richardson and Edwards.

Obama has definitely moved up on my list after tonight, but I'm still rooting for Biden.

Also, Kucinich would get an A himself, but I can't really give him that since he's not playing to win.
Gravel...WHY was he even there.  Yes he was funny, but I wanted a serious debate.
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« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2007, 07:38:33 pm »
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I was pretty surprised at the poor performance of Richardson and Edwards.

I thought they both did fairly well. I liked Edwards' performance especially.

Obama has definitely moved up on my list after tonight, but I'm still rooting for Biden.

Obama did not quite live up to my expectations. He needs to speak in a more direct manner and show more confidence in the coming debates.

Also, Kucinich would get an A himself, but I can't really give him that since he's not playing to win.

Kucinich defintiely livens up the debate and I enjoy his straightforward talk.

Gravel...WHY was he even there.  Yes he was funny, but I wanted a serious debate.

He was really entertaining, and I really liked his answer concerning the military-industrial complex in this country.
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« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2007, 07:39:34 pm »
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Edwards was so...without substance at times.  Richardson just looked really uncomfortable.
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« Reply #35 on: April 26, 2007, 07:39:46 pm »
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They sound like a bunch of nuts.

Wait til the Republican debate. Wink

One man's opinion:

Helped themselves from position before-

Biden (he got a lot of questions, I'll post them below)
Gravel (from nothing to a person that made himself stand out)
Obama (did okay and he did not hurt himself, which some were expecting)

Hurt themselves from position before-

Richardson (that Hispanic comment with Gonzales...my God that sounded bad)
Edwards (just didn't seem there, and he missed an easy pitch with his moral leader)

Same position as before-

H. Clinton
Dodd
Kucinich (I think his thunder got stolen by Gravel)


Found it very interesting that none of them would support Kucinich's impeachment proceedings against Cheney, not even Gravel. Expected of course, but I was hoping Williams would ask one "why not?"




List of questions. Did my best, might be a bit wrong.

Questions/Follow-up/Audience Questions

Clinton 8/2/2
Biden 8/0/3
Obama 7/2/3
Richardson 7/1/3
Edwards 7/1/2
Dodd 6/0/2
Gravel 5/2/1
Kucinich 5/1/2
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« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2007, 07:41:02 pm »
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Coming from a Republican, I thought Biden and Clinton were rather strong, Richardson and Edwards were kind of less than I expected, Gravel was an insane nut, Kucinich was his typical wackjob do nothing for Ohio congressman and Obama was in the middle.

The democrats' whole problem is that they have the opinion similar to Hillary Clinton's "Why won't the President respond to the will of the people?" AKA...Be like Bill and lead based on polls. A president is elected to put forth his vision for leadership, and the congress' job is to keep the government occupied and busy while solving legislation problems. This new Democratic Congress is trying to be the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces...which only George Bush is.
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« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2007, 07:41:53 pm »
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Edwards was so...without substance at times.  Richardson just looked really uncomfortable.

I thought his answers were more specific than most of the other candidates. And he is the only one who has proposed a detailed universal health care plan at this point.
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« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2007, 07:44:26 pm »
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Coming from a Republican, I thought Biden and Clinton were rather strong, Richardson and Edwards were kind of less than I expected, Gravel was an insane nut, Kucinich was his typical wackjob do nothing for Ohio congressman and Obama was in the middle.

The democrats' whole problem is that they have the opinion similar to Hillary Clinton's "Why won't the President respond to the will of the people?" AKA...Be like Bill and lead based on polls. A president is elected to put forth his vision for leadership, and the congress' job is to keep the government occupied and busy while solving legislation problems. This new Democratic Congress is trying to be the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces...which only George Bush is.

See you for the Republican debate next week.

Verrrrrrrrry interested to hear the President's hopeful successors and their views on what he has done and what they would continue. It will show us how much of a lame duck the President is in his own party.
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« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2007, 07:45:07 pm »
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I think Biden did the best, with Obama second.  Richardson was definitely dead last.
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« Reply #40 on: April 26, 2007, 07:49:19 pm »
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I actually think Hillary Clinton did very well and was the most polished candidate.

Obama needs some work before the next debate.
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« Reply #41 on: April 26, 2007, 08:08:01 pm »
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They sound like a bunch of nuts.

Except Mike Gravel.
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« Reply #42 on: April 26, 2007, 08:08:32 pm »
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I agree with pretty much everyone else that Obama did pretty well. I was thinking he might do something bad but he was solid. Clinton was good and I was really impressed with Biden. Edwards sucked and while Richardson had good answers, he lacked stage presence. It was kind of gross when he sweated. Dodd was decent and Gravel and Kucinich are jokes. Obama did a pretty good job fending off attacks from Kucinich and Gravel.
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« Reply #43 on: April 26, 2007, 08:12:26 pm »
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I just made this thread for you to vote and discuss this:

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=56573.0

Perhaps we can get a bit more in depth there.
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« Reply #44 on: April 26, 2007, 08:13:37 pm »
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I was pretty surprised at the poor performance of Richardson and Edwards.


I was too. I thought both would do well going into the debate and unfortunately they were both rather underwhelming.
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« Reply #45 on: April 26, 2007, 08:51:03 pm »
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the whole debate was an utter embarrasment for the Democratic Party, from beginning to end.  *shakes head* 

Oh well, I guess we'll have to wait for 2012 and hopefully some viable Dem candidates like Bayh, Mark Warner, or Ed Rendell will step up to the plate and topple the 12 years of Republican rule
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« Reply #46 on: April 26, 2007, 08:52:23 pm »
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the whole debate was an utter embarrasment for the Democratic Party, from beginning to end.  *shakes head* 

I'm SHOCKED you would say something like that (sarcasm intended).  Republican rule! Democrats drool!
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« Reply #47 on: April 26, 2007, 08:56:14 pm »
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the whole debate was an utter embarrasment for the Democratic Party, from beginning to end.  *shakes head* 

I'm SHOCKED you would say something like that (sarcasm intended).  Republican rule! Democrats drool!


yeah, Mark Warner, Evan Bayh, and Ed Rendell are Republicans! 

TheresNoMoney: tinfoil hat alert!  lmao
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« Reply #48 on: April 26, 2007, 08:58:57 pm »
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yeah, Mark Warner, Evan Bayh, and Ed Rendell are Republicans! 

What about your man Bill Richardson? You've been praising him in the past. Now that he's running, he's horrible.

And I would bet good money taht even if Bayh, Warner and Rendell were running, you'd be saying the same thing. You should really just drop the whole "I'm a Democrat" act for good.
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« Reply #49 on: April 26, 2007, 09:04:47 pm »
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yeah, Mark Warner, Evan Bayh, and Ed Rendell are Republicans! 

What about your man Bill Richardson? You've been praising him in the past. Now that he's running, he's horrible.

And I would bet good money taht even if Bayh, Warner and Rendell were running, you'd be saying the same thing. You should really just drop the whole "I'm a Democrat" act for good.

Bill Richardson is a Republican!  Its all a conspiracy, I tell ya!  JFK, 911, Marilyn Monroe, all the work of evil white males!

OBAMA/HILLARY 2008!

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