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« on: April 26, 2007, 03:08:57 PM »

"The Senate's endangered Republican quartet is on tour -- a nationwide, months-long fundraising road show," reports The Politico.

Sen. John Ensign (R-NV), chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, "said he expects to put together as many as 30 joint fundraising events around the country for the four most vulnerable senators of 2008: Sens. Norm Coleman of Minnesota, Susan Collins of Maine, Gordon Smith of Oregon and John Sununu of New Hampshire."

http://politicalinsider.com/2007/04/endangered_senators_goes_on_fu.html

Interesting that even the NRSC Chairman considers Susan Collins one of the most endangered Republicans up for re-election.
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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2007, 03:12:59 PM »


The Republicans are already conceding that Collins is vulnerable?  Wow.
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2007, 01:05:17 AM »

I was thinking that Collins wouldn't have a competitive race as well--that talk of her being vulnerable was just static.  Hmmmm....
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2007, 01:19:08 AM »

I was thinking that Collins wouldn't have a competitive race as well--that talk of her being vulnerable was just static.  Hmmmm....


She is clearly the more popular in her state than the others are in their states, and I do think she has the best chance to win out of those four, however she is also facing a very popular Congressman as an opponent.  Easily the strongest Democrat in the state in Tom Allen.
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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2007, 06:09:30 AM »

I was thinking that Collins wouldn't have a competitive race as well--that talk of her being vulnerable was just static.  Hmmmm....


She is clearly the more popular in her state than the others are in their states, and I do think she has the best chance to win out of those four, however she is also facing a very popular Congressman as an opponent.  Easily the strongest Democrat in the state in Tom Allen.

People in Rhode Island liked Lincoln Chafee and we all saw what happened to him, I'm starting to think even though Collins is quite well liked that she could be the next moderate New England Republican to get the Chafee treatment.
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2007, 01:48:29 PM »

I was thinking that Collins wouldn't have a competitive race as well--that talk of her being vulnerable was just static.  Hmmmm....


She is clearly the more popular in her state than the others are in their states, and I do think she has the best chance to win out of those four, however she is also facing a very popular Congressman as an opponent.  Easily the strongest Democrat in the state in Tom Allen.

People in Rhode Island liked Lincoln Chafee and we all saw what happened to him, I'm starting to think even though Collins is quite well liked that she could be the next moderate New England Republican to get the Chafee treatment.

Because while New England states aren't willing to elect popular Republican Senators anymore, the most liberal of them all will be wiling to throw out John Kerry in favor of a Republican. Makes perfect sense.
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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2007, 02:35:57 PM »

I was thinking that Collins wouldn't have a competitive race as well--that talk of her being vulnerable was just static.  Hmmmm....


She is clearly the more popular in her state than the others are in their states, and I do think she has the best chance to win out of those four, however she is also facing a very popular Congressman as an opponent.  Easily the strongest Democrat in the state in Tom Allen.

People in Rhode Island liked Lincoln Chafee and we all saw what happened to him, I'm starting to think even though Collins is quite well liked that she could be the next moderate New England Republican to get the Chafee treatment.

Because while New England states aren't willing to elect popular Republican Senators anymore, the most liberal of them all will be wiling to throw out John Kerry in favor of a Republican. Makes perfect sense.

I'm just suggesting that Collins could be kicked out of office becuase of an anti-Republican mood, Also with Kerry I was suggesting him being knocked off in a primary and with the Democrat winning in general, I never said anything about a Republican winning in MA.   
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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2007, 02:43:17 PM »

I was thinking that Collins wouldn't have a competitive race as well--that talk of her being vulnerable was just static.  Hmmmm....


She is clearly the more popular in her state than the others are in their states, and I do think she has the best chance to win out of those four, however she is also facing a very popular Congressman as an opponent.  Easily the strongest Democrat in the state in Tom Allen.

People in Rhode Island liked Lincoln Chafee and we all saw what happened to him, I'm starting to think even though Collins is quite well liked that she could be the next moderate New England Republican to get the Chafee treatment.

Because while New England states aren't willing to elect popular Republican Senators anymore, the most liberal of them all will be wiling to throw out John Kerry in favor of a Republican. Makes perfect sense.

I'm just suggesting that Collins could be kicked out of office becuase of an anti-Republican mood, Also with Kerry I was suggesting him being knocked off in a primary and with the Democrat winning in general, I never said anything about a Republican winning in MA.   

Then why did you compare him to George Allen?

Also as utterly hated as he was by the Democratic base, Lieberman still got 48% in the primary. Does anyone really think Kerry is as unpopular as Lieberman among Democrats? He's not losing the primary, period.
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2007, 02:54:07 PM »

I was thinking that Collins wouldn't have a competitive race as well--that talk of her being vulnerable was just static.  Hmmmm....


She is clearly the more popular in her state than the others are in their states, and I do think she has the best chance to win out of those four, however she is also facing a very popular Congressman as an opponent.  Easily the strongest Democrat in the state in Tom Allen.

People in Rhode Island liked Lincoln Chafee and we all saw what happened to him, I'm starting to think even though Collins is quite well liked that she could be the next moderate New England Republican to get the Chafee treatment.

Because while New England states aren't willing to elect popular Republican Senators anymore, the most liberal of them all will be wiling to throw out John Kerry in favor of a Republican. Makes perfect sense.

I'm just suggesting that Collins could be kicked out of office becuase of an anti-Republican mood, Also with Kerry I was suggesting him being knocked off in a primary and with the Democrat winning in general, I never said anything about a Republican winning in MA.   

Then why did you compare him to George Allen?

Also as utterly hated as he was by the Democratic base, Lieberman still got 48% in the primary. Does anyone really think Kerry is as unpopular as Lieberman among Democrats? He's not losing the primary, period.

Things could change BRTD, Remember was anybody predicting that Lieberman would face a strong challange from within his own party?
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2007, 02:56:08 PM »

I was pretty sure that would happen for a long time.

I still don't see how Kerry could be as unpopular as Lieberman, and so far I have yet to receive a single reason of as to why that would happen and there would be massive grassroots movement to toss him out like Lieberman. Do you see tons of people on Kos and DU screaming for Kerry's head like they did with Lieberman?
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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2007, 03:00:05 PM »

I was pretty sure that would happen for a long time.

I still don't see how Kerry could be as unpopular as Lieberman, and so far I have yet to receive a single reason of as to why that would happen and there would be massive grassroots movement to toss him out like Lieberman. Do you see tons of people on Kos and DU screaming for Kerry's head like they did with Lieberman?

No but Kerry is garnering medicore approval ratings and with a good part of regerstered MA Democratic voters disapproving of him or wanting him to not run again, I just think he could be in trouble from within his own party. 
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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2007, 03:06:54 PM »

I was pretty sure that would happen for a long time.

I still don't see how Kerry could be as unpopular as Lieberman, and so far I have yet to receive a single reason of as to why that would happen and there would be massive grassroots movement to toss him out like Lieberman. Do you see tons of people on Kos and DU screaming for Kerry's head like they did with Lieberman?

No but Kerry is garnering medicore approval ratings and with a good part of regerstered MA Democratic voters disapproving of him or wanting him to not run again, I just think he could be in trouble from within his own party. 

"A good part" does not equal a majority.

Lieberman was only the 4th Senate incumbent to lose a primary since 1980. Senate incumbents typically just don't lose. It'll take more than "mediocre approval ratings" to toss one out.
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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2007, 11:17:43 PM »


Lieberman was only the 4th Senate incumbent to lose a primary since 1980.

Is it really that many?  Who were the other three?
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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2007, 11:21:06 PM »


Lieberman was only the 4th Senate incumbent to lose a primary since 1980.

Is it really that many?  Who were the other three?

I know that Bob Smith is one of them, I'm not sure whpo the other two were.
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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2007, 11:32:20 PM »

I was pretty sure that would happen for a long time.

I still don't see how Kerry could be as unpopular as Lieberman, and so far I have yet to receive a single reason of as to why that would happen and there would be massive grassroots movement to toss him out like Lieberman. Do you see tons of people on Kos and DU screaming for Kerry's head like they did with Lieberman?

No but Kerry is garnering medicore approval ratings and with a good part of regerstered MA Democratic voters disapproving of him or wanting him to not run again, I just think he could be in trouble from within his own party. 

Lieberman lost the Primary because he held the exact opposite views of te vast majority of Democratic voters in the state on what was the most important issue to them.   How does Kerry fit into any of that???
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« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2007, 09:27:41 AM »

I was pretty sure that would happen for a long time.

I still don't see how Kerry could be as unpopular as Lieberman, and so far I have yet to receive a single reason of as to why that would happen and there would be massive grassroots movement to toss him out like Lieberman. Do you see tons of people on Kos and DU screaming for Kerry's head like they did with Lieberman?

No but Kerry is garnering medicore approval ratings and with a good part of regerstered MA Democratic voters disapproving of him or wanting him to not run again, I just think he could be in trouble from within his own party. 

Lieberman lost the Primary because he held the exact opposite views of te vast majority of Democratic voters in the state on what was the most important issue to them.   How does Kerry fit into any of that???

I'm thinking along the lines of people just getting sick of Kerry and wanting somebody new.
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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2007, 10:45:54 AM »

I was pretty sure that would happen for a long time.

I still don't see how Kerry could be as unpopular as Lieberman, and so far I have yet to receive a single reason of as to why that would happen and there would be massive grassroots movement to toss him out like Lieberman. Do you see tons of people on Kos and DU screaming for Kerry's head like they did with Lieberman?

No but Kerry is garnering medicore approval ratings and with a good part of regerstered MA Democratic voters disapproving of him or wanting him to not run again, I just think he could be in trouble from within his own party. 

Lieberman lost the Primary because he held the exact opposite views of te vast majority of Democratic voters in the state on what was the most important issue to them.   How does Kerry fit into any of that???

I'm thinking along the lines of people just getting sick of Kerry and wanting somebody new.

Only if a strong challenger ran
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