Israel-Gaza war

[Pres Mike]

I think Netanyahu is trying to run out the clock. Today was day 10 of Ramadan, 20 left. If the fighting continues after Ramadan, there will be less incentive for a ceasefire

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

I think Netanyahu is trying to run out the clock.

His "solution" to everything.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I think Netanyahu is trying to run out the clock.

His "solution" to everything.

"Aliens who have shown the ability to completely destroy Earth have landed from Mars and demanded 200 people from every nation come with them to their planet. The last nation to still not comply, Israeli Premier Benjamin Netanyahu, still wants more time to discuss the issue internally, despite our new extraterrestrial overlords saying they're giving him no more chances"

[Hindsight was 2020]

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1770668603307872401?s=46&t=chlbk-s...
🎉

[Angel of Death]

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1770668603307872401?s=46&t=chlbk-s...

Is this unconditional or dependent on the release of the hostages? Because if it's the latter, it's merely symbolic.

[CumbrianLefty]

Is this unconditional or dependent on the release of the hostages? Because if it's the latter, it's merely symbolic.

Though in this situation, even symbolism has substance.

[Agafin]

It might also be an optics thing. If Russia or China vetoes it (which is actually pretty likely), then the USA won't be the only country having vetoed a "ceasefire" resolution.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1770668603307872401?s=46&t=chlbk-s...
🎉

Genius.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

It might also be an optics thing. If Russia or China vetoes it (which is actually pretty likely), then the USA won't be the only country having vetoed a "ceasefire" resolution.

Why is that? I haven't really been following the Russian or Chinese postures on this.

[Devils30]

https://www.pewresearch.org/2024/03/21/views-of-the-israel-hamas-war/prc_2024-3-21_israel-hamas_1-02/

This is another interesting poll. Just confirms the anti-Israel crowd comes mainly from Muslims and white religiously unaffiliated and not mainline black churches.

Obviously it's understandable why Muslims are more likely to justify Hamas' actions but we need to examine these religiously unaffiliated under 30 voters more rigorously. Mainstream educational institutions should stop teaching people that this is a hopeless country and start reflecting on some of the damage done in the social media era.

[GoTfan]

https://www.pewresearch.org/2024/03/21/views-of-the-israel-hamas-war/prc_2024-3-21_israel-hamas_1-02/

This is another interesting poll. Just confirms the anti-Israel crowd comes mainly from Muslims and white religiously unaffiliated and not mainline black churches.

Obviously it's understandable why Muslims are more likely to justify Hamas' actions but we need to examine these religiously unaffiliated under 30 voters more rigorously. Quite a bunch of these far leftists have major mental disorders and their antisemitism is really a front for some deeper issues. Mainstream educational institutions should stop teaching people that this is a hopeless country and start reflecting on some of the damage done in the social media era.

This is pretty offensive.

[Devils30]

https://www.pewresearch.org/2024/03/21/views-of-the-israel-hamas-war/prc_2024-3-21_israel-hamas_1-02/

This is another interesting poll. Just confirms the anti-Israel crowd comes mainly from Muslims and white religiously unaffiliated and not mainline black churches.

Obviously it's understandable why Muslims are more likely to justify Hamas' actions but we need to examine these religiously unaffiliated under 30 voters more rigorously. Quite a bunch of these far leftists have major mental disorders and their antisemitism is really a front for some deeper issues. Mainstream educational institutions should stop teaching people that this is a hopeless country and start reflecting on some of the damage done in the social media era.

This is pretty offensive.

No it’s not, it’s a brutally harsh take but it matches the data from the “uncommitted” votes which were mainly places like Dearborn, college campuses but not inner city Detroit. I’m sorry if you don’t want to believe it but younger leftists under 30 tend to believe antisemitic tropes more than any other group outside of the far far right.

[Ferguson97]

It might also be an optics thing. If Russia or China vetoes it (which is actually pretty likely), then the USA won't be the only country having vetoed a "ceasefire" resolution.

Why is that? I haven't really been following the Russian or Chinese postures on this.

Both of them just vetoed it.

The reason is likely be because the US introduced the resolution.

[Illiniwek]

It might also be an optics thing. If Russia or China vetoes it (which is actually pretty likely), then the USA won't be the only country having vetoed a "ceasefire" resolution.

Why is that? I haven't really been following the Russian or Chinese postures on this.

Both of them just vetoed it.

The reason is likely be because the US introduced the resolution.

The way this process works is so freaking dumb.

[Sir Mohamed]

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1771174013190000718

[Red Velvet]

It might also be an optics thing. If Russia or China vetoes it (which is actually pretty likely), then the USA won't be the only country having vetoed a "ceasefire" resolution.

Why is that? I haven't really been following the Russian or Chinese postures on this.

Because it’s simply just obvious? US insistently vetoed every proposal of ceasefire made by those two, why would they give a geopolitical victory to US by approving theirs?

I get confused with people seemingly really believing that geopolitics is driven mainly out of principles. It never is for anyone. Competing interests. Why did US veto every ceasefire proposal up until now when that’s basically a consensus in the international community?

Usually when this kind of bickering happens, two powers measuring dicks by domestically instrumentalizing third-party countries issues in order to not give a “win” to the other, in order to advance the agenda a small “neutral” country tends to be the one that has to advance the proposal by dialoguing with the major powers that have the veto ability in order to find a common ground for approval.

Otherwise every peace proposal created by Russia or China will be blocked by USA and every peace proposal made by USA will be blocked by Russia or China.

[lfromnj]

Israel should ignore the Biden admin trying to bully countries to fight wars the way they want so he can win reelection.

[Vosem]

https://twitter.com/eigenrobot/status/1771184129331142947

Occasional reminder that the vast majority of opposition to the Israeli war in Gaza is disingenuous posturing

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

It might also be an optics thing. If Russia or China vetoes it (which is actually pretty likely), then the USA won't be the only country having vetoed a "ceasefire" resolution.

Why is that? I haven't really been following the Russian or Chinese postures on this.

Because it’s simply just obvious? US insistently vetoed every proposal of ceasefire made by those two, why would they give a geopolitical victory to US by approving theirs?

I get confused with people seemingly really believing that geopolitics is driven mainly out of principles. It never is for anyone. Competing interests. Why did US veto every ceasefire proposal up until now when that’s basically a consensus in the international community?

Usually when this kind of bickering happens, two powers measuring dicks by domestically instrumentalizing third-party countries issues in order to not give a “win” to the other, in order to advance the agenda a small “neutral” country tends to be the one that has to advance the proposal by dialoguing with the major powers that have the veto ability in order to find a common ground for approval.

Otherwise every peace proposal created by Russia or China will be blocked by USA and every peace proposal made by USA will be blocked by Russia or China.

Well, it did get vetoed. The US got what it wanted, most likely.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

Israel should ignore the Biden admin trying to bully countries to fight wars the way they want so he can win reelection.

We're literally running constant defense for Israel. They should at least do what we say.

[Ferguson97]

Israel should ignore the Biden admin trying to bully countries to fight wars the way they want so he can win reelection.

There‘s nothing wrong with attaching reasonable conditions to the money we send to other countries.

[CumbrianLefty]

Israel should ignore the Biden admin trying to bully countries to fight wars the way they want so he can win reelection.

Biden should ignore Netanyahu needlessly prolonging this war solely so that he can stay in power (and thus, very likely, out of prison)

See? The other side can do this too

[lfromnj]

Israel should ignore the Biden admin trying to bully countries to fight wars the way they want so he can win reelection.

We're literally running constant defense for Israel. They should at least do what we say.

If we really cared about human rights then get them to stop selling to the Azeris. Much easier to do and has more impact.  Instead all that matters is Biden's reelection.

[GoTfan]

https://www.pewresearch.org/2024/03/21/views-of-the-israel-hamas-war/prc_2024-3-21_israel-hamas_1-02/

This is another interesting poll. Just confirms the anti-Israel crowd comes mainly from Muslims and white religiously unaffiliated and not mainline black churches.

Obviously it's understandable why Muslims are more likely to justify Hamas' actions but we need to examine these religiously unaffiliated under 30 voters more rigorously. Quite a bunch of these far leftists have major mental disorders and their antisemitism is really a front for some deeper issues. Mainstream educational institutions should stop teaching people that this is a hopeless country and start reflecting on some of the damage done in the social media era.

This is pretty offensive.

No it’s not, it’s a brutally harsh take but it matches the data from the “uncommitted” votes which were mainly places like Dearborn, college campuses but not inner city Detroit. I’m sorry if you don’t want to believe it but younger leftists under 30 tend to believe antisemitic tropes more than any other group outside of the far far right.

No, it is. You're implying that anyone who has any mild criticism of Israel is an anti-Semite or mentally ill. It is extremely offensive, so I suggest you rethink what you typed.

As someone who does struggle with chronic depression and anxiety, it's pretty disheartening to see people equate any criticism of Israel with severe mental illness.

[Vosem]

https://www.pewresearch.org/2024/03/21/views-of-the-israel-hamas-war/prc_2024-3-21_israel-hamas_1-02/

This is another interesting poll. Just confirms the anti-Israel crowd comes mainly from Muslims and white religiously unaffiliated and not mainline black churches.

Obviously it's understandable why Muslims are more likely to justify Hamas' actions but we need to examine these religiously unaffiliated under 30 voters more rigorously. Quite a bunch of these far leftists have major mental disorders and their antisemitism is really a front for some deeper issues. Mainstream educational institutions should stop teaching people that this is a hopeless country and start reflecting on some of the damage done in the social media era.

This is pretty offensive.

No it’s not, it’s a brutally harsh take but it matches the data from the “uncommitted” votes which were mainly places like Dearborn, college campuses but not inner city Detroit. I’m sorry if you don’t want to believe it but younger leftists under 30 tend to believe antisemitic tropes more than any other group outside of the far far right.

No, it is. You're implying that anyone who has any mild criticism of Israel is an anti-Semite or mentally ill. It is extremely offensive, so I suggest you rethink what you typed.

I am really only saying (and I think Devils30 is only saying) that anti-Semitism and mental illness are common among those who criticize the Israeli war effort in Gaza, which I think all decent people everywhere in the world should support. There are many quite valid criticisms of Israel (consider the size of their welfare state!) -- but the ideas that the war effort is unjustified or cruel are not among them.