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« Reply #6650 on: March 27, 2024, 12:28:15 PM »

Israel violating UN resolution by dropping bombs on Rafah.



Again, Jews don't acknowledge the UN ordering us to lie down and die quietly. Now or ever.

Well the UN resolution is talking to Israel. Unless you're lying about where you live, you state via your avatar that you're a Democrat living in New Jersey. Since you state "ordering us to lie down and die quietly", the UN are not ordering you leaving aside your take on the comment because you're not a member of the Israeli state.
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« Reply #6651 on: March 27, 2024, 12:41:33 PM »

Israel violating UN resolution by dropping bombs on Rafah.



Again, Jews don't acknowledge the UN ordering us to lie down and die quietly. Now or ever.

Well the UN resolution is talking to Israel. Unless you're lying about where you live, you state via your avatar that you're a Democrat living in New Jersey. Since you state "ordering us to lie down and die quietly", the UN are not ordering you leaving aside your take on the comment because you're not a member of the Israeli state.

The claims that there's any meaningful difference anymore would be a lot more credible it it wasn't for the howling mobs intimidating worshippers in Teaneck every week.

This has been a constant since October, when the mobs launched their attacks within hours of the 10/7 genocide. A very clear message is being sent, and it's followed up with lies, and we're no longer listening.
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« Reply #6652 on: March 27, 2024, 01:42:28 PM »
« Edited: March 27, 2024, 01:58:03 PM by Silent Hunter »

Isn't the synagogue hosting events selling real estate in the West Bank? Not that it justifies that behaviour.
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« Reply #6653 on: March 27, 2024, 03:22:17 PM »

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« Reply #6654 on: March 27, 2024, 04:15:01 PM »


There are a significant number of voters who support Israel's right to exist, understand the threat on its borders but think this operation in Gaza is overkill.
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« Reply #6655 on: March 27, 2024, 06:14:38 PM »

Breaking: A majority of Americans no longer approve of the Israel's war in Gaza

Only 36% now support the war, down from 50% in November

55% disapprove, up from 45% in November

64% of Republicans still support the war, but only 18%. 29% for independents

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4559102-majority-americans-israel-hamas-gaza/?email=467cb6399cb7df64551775e431052b43a775c749&emaila=12a6d4d069cd56cfddaa391c24eb7042&emailb=054528e7403871c79f668e49dd3c44b1ec00c7f611bf9388f76bb2324d6ca5f3&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=03.27.24%20%E2%80%94%C2%A0Defense%20%26%20National%20Security

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« Reply #6656 on: March 27, 2024, 06:50:59 PM »

Israel violating UN resolution by dropping bombs on Rafah.



No more weapons.
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« Reply #6657 on: March 27, 2024, 06:53:33 PM »

Israel violating UN resolution by dropping bombs on Rafah.



No more weapons.

Unless the US has a way to get the hostages back, cutting off Israel won't stop the war, it will only escalate it. Biden knows this.
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« Reply #6658 on: March 27, 2024, 06:57:32 PM »

Israel violating UN resolution by dropping bombs on Rafah.



Again, Jews don't acknowledge the UN ordering us to lie down and die quietly. Now or ever.

Well the UN resolution is talking to Israel. Unless you're lying about where you live, you state via your avatar that you're a Democrat living in New Jersey. Since you state "ordering us to lie down and die quietly", the UN are not ordering you leaving aside your take on the comment because you're not a member of the Israeli state.

The claims that there's any meaningful difference anymore would be a lot more credible it it wasn't for the howling mobs intimidating worshippers in Teaneck every week.

This has been a constant since October, when the mobs launched their attacks within hours of the 10/7 genocide. A very clear message is being sent, and it's followed up with lies, and we're no longer listening.

The idea that the UN is ordering you to 'lay down and die' is Excessive Hyperbole and you know it.
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« Reply #6659 on: March 28, 2024, 04:47:00 AM »

Israel violating UN resolution by dropping bombs on Rafah.



No more weapons.
What's needed isn't the single biggest step towards our leverage shrinking precipitously.  What's needed is something more thought through.
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« Reply #6660 on: March 28, 2024, 05:57:31 AM »

Israel violating UN resolution by dropping bombs on Rafah.



Again, Jews don't acknowledge the UN ordering us to lie down and die quietly. Now or ever.

Well the UN resolution is talking to Israel. Unless you're lying about where you live, you state via your avatar that you're a Democrat living in New Jersey. Since you state "ordering us to lie down and die quietly", the UN are not ordering you leaving aside your take on the comment because you're not a member of the Israeli state.

The claims that there's any meaningful difference anymore would be a lot more credible it it wasn't for the howling mobs intimidating worshippers in Teaneck every week.

This has been a constant since October, when the mobs launched their attacks within hours of the 10/7 genocide. A very clear message is being sent, and it's followed up with lies, and we're no longer listening.

I have a Jewish friend in Teaneck, New Jersey. I better give him a ring.
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« Reply #6661 on: March 28, 2024, 07:59:50 AM »

Israel violating UN resolution by dropping bombs on Rafah.



Again, Jews don't acknowledge the UN ordering us to lie down and die quietly. Now or ever.

Well the UN resolution is talking to Israel. Unless you're lying about where you live, you state via your avatar that you're a Democrat living in New Jersey. Since you state "ordering us to lie down and die quietly", the UN are not ordering you leaving aside your take on the comment because you're not a member of the Israeli state.

The claims that there's any meaningful difference anymore would be a lot more credible it it wasn't for the howling mobs intimidating worshippers in Teaneck every week.

This has been a constant since October, when the mobs launched their attacks within hours of the 10/7 genocide. A very clear message is being sent, and it's followed up with lies, and we're no longer listening.

The idea that the UN is ordering you to 'lay down and die' is Excessive Hyperbole and you know it.

Of course it is, but said poster knows little else.
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« Reply #6662 on: March 28, 2024, 08:05:09 AM »

Israel violating UN resolution by dropping bombs on Rafah.



No more weapons.

Unless the US has a way to get the hostages back, cutting off Israel won't stop the war, it will only escalate it. Biden knows this.

Israel doesn't need US weapons to starve the Palestinians.
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« Reply #6663 on: March 28, 2024, 11:24:52 AM »

My Cocaine pleads support for a ceasefire. Thanks for the kindness for just sending out this simple message. If a 91 year old Tory can see the chaos the whole global world should do the same to all end this catastrophe sooner than later.

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« Reply #6664 on: March 28, 2024, 12:32:10 PM »

Israel violating UN resolution by dropping bombs on Rafah.



No more weapons.

Unless the US has a way to get the hostages back, cutting off Israel won't stop the war, it will only escalate it. Biden knows this.

Israel doesn't need US weapons to starve the Palestinians.

Right, so why give them any more at all?
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« Reply #6665 on: March 28, 2024, 12:39:54 PM »

Israel violating UN resolution by dropping bombs on Rafah.



No more weapons.

Unless the US has a way to get the hostages back, cutting off Israel won't stop the war, it will only escalate it. Biden knows this.

Israel doesn't need US weapons to starve the Palestinians.

Right, so why give them any more at all?

Because the closer Israel gets to being backed into a corner, the more is on the table.

Unless the US wants to get on the ground and liberate the hostages themselves, they would be very stupid to end their partnership with Israel.
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« Reply #6666 on: March 28, 2024, 01:14:50 PM »

Israel violating UN resolution by dropping bombs on Rafah.



No more weapons.

Unless the US has a way to get the hostages back, cutting off Israel won't stop the war, it will only escalate it. Biden knows this.

Israel doesn't need US weapons to starve the Palestinians.

Right, so why give them any more at all?

Because the closer Israel gets to being backed into a corner, the more is on the table.

Unless the US wants to get on the ground and liberate the hostages themselves, they would be very stupid to end their partnership with Israel.

The US needs to sell Israel weapons to have a partnership with them? That's the same practice that defines the US relationships with Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and all the other despots we backed during the Cold War. I suppose the relationship with Israel makes sense as part of that. And we do lead the world in the global arms trade, so that also tracks.

Seems a lot more stupid for the US to be complicit in other countries' war crimes. Makes it harder for much of the world to take the "rules-based international order" and "democracy vs dictatorships" rhetoric seriously, or to gain broader support for Ukraine, or compete with China and Russia for influence.
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« Reply #6667 on: March 28, 2024, 01:18:36 PM »

Israel violating UN resolution by dropping bombs on Rafah.



No more weapons.

Unless the US has a way to get the hostages back, cutting off Israel won't stop the war, it will only escalate it. Biden knows this.

Israel doesn't need US weapons to starve the Palestinians.

Right, so why give them any more at all?

Because the closer Israel gets to being backed into a corner, the more is on the table.

Unless the US wants to get on the ground and liberate the hostages themselves, they would be very stupid to end their partnership with Israel.

At this point you people have convinced me we should have the same relationship with Israel that we have with North Korea.
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« Reply #6668 on: March 28, 2024, 02:02:00 PM »


Alex Jones isn't the source, he's citing the same gratuitous footage that turned Ed Snowden



days later, yet another drone caught Israeli soldiers executing civilians with white flags and then burying the bodies with bulldozers



the IDF's drones have been a great source of war crime evidence, though these days they've gotten so sloppy that State Department officials are accusing the IDF of the systematic use of rape against Palestinian women (ironically we only found out because the Israelis, having never been held accountable for anything even in private, announced it openly)
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« Reply #6669 on: March 28, 2024, 02:05:03 PM »

Isn't the synagogue hosting events selling real estate in the West Bank? Not that it justifies that behaviour.

Correct. They're hosting events for settlers there.
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« Reply #6670 on: March 28, 2024, 02:14:35 PM »

Israel violating UN resolution by dropping bombs on Rafah.



No more weapons.

Unless the US has a way to get the hostages back, cutting off Israel won't stop the war, it will only escalate it. Biden knows this.

Israel doesn't need US weapons to starve the Palestinians.

Right, so why give them any more at all?

Because the closer Israel gets to being backed into a corner, the more is on the table.

Unless the US wants to get on the ground and liberate the hostages themselves, they would be very stupid to end their partnership with Israel.

At this point you people have convinced me we should have the same relationship with Israel that we have with North Korea.

Israel is the most likely country in the world to launch a renegade nuke and it's not remotely close.
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« Reply #6671 on: March 28, 2024, 02:36:08 PM »

Seems a lot more stupid for the US to be complicit in other countries' war crimes. Makes it harder for much of the world to take the "rules-based international order" and "democracy vs dictatorships" rhetoric seriously...

Why do you think they took it seriously to start with?

FYI, this war hits six months old in 10 days.
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« Reply #6672 on: March 28, 2024, 02:51:53 PM »

Seems a lot more stupid for the US to be complicit in other countries' war crimes. Makes it harder for much of the world to take the "rules-based international order" and "democracy vs dictatorships" rhetoric seriously...

Why do you think they took it seriously to start with?

FYI, this war hits six months old in 10 days.

And it will end when Hamas is no longer holding Israeli hostages.

Israel can't be forced into a surrender here. All the special pleading in the world won't change the fact that Hamas started this war with an act of unprecedented barbarism, and Israel will finish it no matter what it takes.
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« Reply #6673 on: March 28, 2024, 03:51:02 PM »

Alex Jones isn't the source, he's citing the same gratuitous footage that turned Ed Snowden

The pro-Israel accounts I follow have claimed that this footage is of Hamas soldiers being blown up on their way to plant an IED.  Naturally, since Hamas commits a war crime by disguising themselves as civilians, it is impossible to tell whether these guys were Hamas or civilians, and people are just going to believe what they want to believe.  They could even be civilians that Israel blew up because they thought they were Hamas, and it would still be Hamas's fault because if Hamas didn't disguise themselves as civilians it would be impossible to make such a mistake.

FWIW, the Israel side says the secondary explosion after the missile strike is the detonation of the IED they were carrying, which provides evidence that they were Hamas.  I haven't seen any evidence that they weren't Hamas, other than "they were dressed like civilians" and "well, Israel always lies".

days later, yet another drone caught Israeli soldiers executing civilians with white flags and then burying the bodies with bulldozers

The tweet you quoted here has been deleted but I found the Al Jazeera footage and it is just an extremely blurry video of someone getting shot on a beach, and then a cut to some footage of bulldozers around the dead body some time later.  I don't see any evidence that he was waving a white flag, nor that the bulldozers were to bury the body (which wouldn't be a bad thing anyway).  Regardless, if Israel shot a civilian waving a white flag, that is a war crime and a very bad thing.  But again the reason this happens is because Hamas will commit the war crime of waving a white flag to pretend to be civilians before opening fire on Israelis, so Israel is suspicious of white flags.  It all comes back to Hamas refusing to follow laws of war that are designed to protect the innocent.
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« Reply #6674 on: March 28, 2024, 04:05:18 PM »

Israel violating UN resolution by dropping bombs on Rafah.



No more weapons.

Unless the US has a way to get the hostages back, cutting off Israel won't stop the war, it will only escalate it. Biden knows this.

What's your logic here? Cutting off US weapons doesn't materially affect the balance of power between Israel and Hamas and Hamas no longer has the power to escalate beyond what it's already doing. So are you suggesting that Israel is going to escalate things because it's not receiving military aid?
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