Women for President

[The Duke]

Neither the idea that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11 nor that Iraq isn't part of the WoT is a crucial point.  it is your opinion, not a fact.

I think Iraq is crucial to the WoT, and I don't care that Iraq wasn't involved specifically in 9/11.  He was a sponsor of other terrorist attacks and a sponsor of other Al Qaeda operations, and that's enough.

As for public support, would you have considered the 70% approval the public had for the war when it was going well to be an indictment of your views?  Of course not, because you understand that reason and popularity are not intertwined.  So why try and pretend otherwise?

[freedomburns]

Neither the idea that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11 nor that Iraq isn't part of the WoT is a crucial point.  it is your opinion, not a fact.

I think Iraq is crucial to the WoT, and I don't care that Iraq wasn't involved specifically in 9/11.  He was a sponsor of other terrorist attacks and a sponsor of other Al Qaeda operations, and that's enough.

As for public support, would you have considered the 70% approval the public had for the war when it was going well to be an indictment of your views?  Of course not, because you understand that reason and popularity are not intertwined.  So why try and pretend otherwise?

It's enough for you, but not for me.  I claim it is also not enough for world or American popular opinion and this is central to both of our points.  Current popular opinon is all that really matters and it is important here.  No it is not necessarily tied to reason, but it does count.  For you to go back two years to when the wound over 9/11 was fresh, and the hysteria over getting some payback was being successfully whipped up shows the weakness of your argument.

Remember in third grade when you got popped in the jaw by some hooligan kid who was faster than you and you couldn't catch up to him so you pounded the second-grader who scuffed your shoes once because you were so hot over getting socked?  Same deal and still not right.

freedomburns

[freedomburns]

But of course, I will concede that point in the other direction.  If current popular opinion did not agree with mine, I would be howling about how popularity does not make something right.  Point taken.

freedomburns

[Platypus]

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er, I mean,

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and,

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[opebo]

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er, I mean,

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She'd be my first choice also.

[Platypus]

snowe draft! snowe draft! snowe draft!

er, I mean,

darft snowe! draft snowe! draft snowe!

She'd be my first choice also.

that scares me somewhat

[dazzleman]

Olympia Snowe hasn't shown any real inclination to run for president.  I suspect she'd have some trouble getting nominated.

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Pelosi wouldn't have a chance in hell of being elected President, or being Speaker of the House, which she is currently scheming.

Good one.

[adam]

Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, and  Jodi Rell would all be good options. KBH is all right, but there is just something that strikes me as off about her.

[HardRCafé]

I suppose Braun

Cuba or even Haiti could take us over if she were President.