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Fmr. Gov. NickG
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« on: August 06, 2004, 04:58:25 PM »

Dow Closes Down 148 to New 2004 Low

And Republicans are supposed to be the party of the investor class!
Can the Bush economy do anything right?
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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2004, 05:41:02 PM »

Presidents have hardly any influence over the economy.  However, the economy does have influence over president's chances of re-election.  
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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2004, 05:59:09 PM »
« Edited: August 06, 2004, 06:03:00 PM by millwx »

Presidents have hardly any influence over the economy.  However, the economy does have influence over president's chances of re-election.  
This used to be true.  Not that presidents have total influence... obviously not.  But now, in a pretty evenly divided Congress, the president has a large say in economic policy, because his vetoes can't be overridden.  Two big examples during Bush's first term... The major tax cuts would not have gone through were it not for Bush; also, the huge govt spending increases wouldn't have gone through if Bush was economically conservative (he'd have vetoed the budget bill, as fiscal conservatives advised, and his veto wouldn't have been overridden).  And these are just two examples.

Obviously, things like this don't "control" the economy.  But they clearly have a significant impact.  If we were in a time with a much more heavily tilted Congress (so, vetoes could be overridden), the prez would wield very little power.  In this age, the presidency is a very powerful position... economically and otherwise.
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2004, 06:01:31 PM »

Presidents have hardly any influence over the economy.  However, the economy does have influence over president's chances of re-election.  

An excuse.
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Fmr. Gov. NickG
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2004, 06:23:39 PM »
« Edited: August 06, 2004, 06:23:56 PM by Gov. NickG »

Presidents have hardly any influence over the economy.  However, the economy does have influence over president's chances of re-election.  

Actually, I generally believe this.  It's just that Bush CLAIMED his tax cuts would grow the economy and create jobs.   Instead, they have just left us with huge deficits and an ever-growing secondary labor market.  More evidence that supply side economics just doesn't work.
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