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Question: Who would you vote for?
R/R   -5 (16.7%)
R/D   -4 (13.3%)
D/D   -13 (43.3%)
D/R   -0 (0%)
I/R   -1 (3.3%)
I/D   -1 (3.3%)
I/I   -3 (10%)
R/I   -1 (3.3%)
D/I   -2 (6.7%)
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Author Topic: Downwiththeleft (R) vs. Jamespol (D)  (Read 2324 times)
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« on: May 23, 2007, 10:20:09 pm »
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Down, libertarian-leaning northeast-Republican chooses Kevin, a Virginian conservative as his running mate.

Jamespol, a conservative-leaning Democrat from Missouri picks Nym90, a more liberal Democrat from Michigan as his running mate.

Who would you vote for?  Is there a strong third party?
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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2007, 10:21:31 pm »
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down is not libertarian leaning.  He is hard right in social views.
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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2007, 10:25:30 pm »
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down is not libertarian leaning.  He is hard right in social views.
Bingo.

Calling himself "libertarian-leaning" does not hide his conservative views.
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2007, 06:47:48 am »
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I'd rather jump off a bridge here, actually.
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2007, 12:13:42 pm »
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I voted for DWTL purely because I know you set this up to get jamespol to win. Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2007, 12:24:11 pm »
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First thing I'd do is reverse the Democratic ticket. Nym has long been a forum buddy of mine, and I tend to agree with his views more than I would a hardcore right Republican, or an embarrassingly conservative Democrat.
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2007, 01:42:40 pm »
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down is not libertarian leaning.  He is hard right in social views.

I really hold zero conservative social views except for abortion (which there are plently of pro-life libertarians), gay marriage (religious), and support of the Patriot Act.  I more than make up for that with hardcore libertarian positions of opposing a National ID card, legalization of all drugs, legalization of prostitution, abolishment of the FCC, and other issues like that.  To say I'm more conservative than libertarian is absurd.
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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2007, 03:51:11 pm »
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down is not libertarian leaning.  He is hard right in social views.

I really hold zero conservative social views except for abortion (which there are plently of pro-life libertarians), gay marriage (religious), and support of the Patriot Act.  I more than make up for that with hardcore libertarian positions of opposing a National ID card, legalization of all drugs, legalization of prostitution, abolishment of the FCC, and other issues like that.  To say I'm more conservative than libertarian is absurd.

If you oppose gay marriage on religious grounds, wouldn't it be logical to also oppose the legalization of prostitution on the same grounds?
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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2007, 05:51:18 pm »
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down is not libertarian leaning.  He is hard right in social views.

I really hold zero conservative social views except for abortion (which there are plently of pro-life libertarians), gay marriage (religious), and support of the Patriot Act.  I more than make up for that with hardcore libertarian positions of opposing a National ID card, legalization of all drugs, legalization of prostitution, abolishment of the FCC, and other issues like that.  To say I'm more conservative than libertarian is absurd.

If you oppose gay marriage on religious grounds, wouldn't it be logical to also oppose the legalization of prostitution on the same grounds?

No, b/c prostitution is something that a person does an individual choice, an also against gay marriage b/c it degrades society and makes a mockery.
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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2007, 06:07:55 pm »
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down is not libertarian leaning.  He is hard right in social views.

I really hold zero conservative social views except for abortion (which there are plently of pro-life libertarians), gay marriage (religious), and support of the Patriot Act.  I more than make up for that with hardcore libertarian positions of opposing a National ID card, legalization of all drugs, legalization of prostitution, abolishment of the FCC, and other issues like that.  To say I'm more conservative than libertarian is absurd.

If you oppose gay marriage on religious grounds, wouldn't it be logical to also oppose the legalization of prostitution on the same grounds?

No, b/c prostitution is something that a person does an individual choice, an also against gay marriage b/c it degrades society and makes a mockery.

Prostitution doesn't?
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« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2007, 06:12:54 pm »
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down is not libertarian leaning.  He is hard right in social views.

I really hold zero conservative social views except for abortion (which there are plently of pro-life libertarians), gay marriage (religious), and support of the Patriot Act.  I more than make up for that with hardcore libertarian positions of opposing a National ID card, legalization of all drugs, legalization of prostitution, abolishment of the FCC, and other issues like that.  To say I'm more conservative than libertarian is absurd.

If you oppose gay marriage on religious grounds, wouldn't it be logical to also oppose the legalization of prostitution on the same grounds?

No, b/c prostitution is something that a person does an individual choice, an also against gay marriage b/c it degrades society and makes a mockery.

Prostitution doesn't?

No b/c it's a one-time or isolated event usually, not something that comes with a certificate
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« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2007, 06:37:48 pm »
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down is not libertarian leaning.  He is hard right in social views.

I really hold zero conservative social views except for abortion (which there are plently of pro-life libertarians), gay marriage (religious), and support of the Patriot Act.  I more than make up for that with hardcore libertarian positions of opposing a National ID card, legalization of all drugs, legalization of prostitution, abolishment of the FCC, and other issues like that.  To say I'm more conservative than libertarian is absurd.

If you oppose gay marriage on religious grounds, wouldn't it be logical to also oppose the legalization of prostitution on the same grounds?

No, b/c prostitution is something that a person does an individual choice, an also against gay marriage b/c it degrades society and makes a mockery.

If one believes (which you probably don't) that men and women and gays and straights are equal, how would gay marriage degrade society and make a mockery? Doesn't marrying and divorcing five times create a bigger mockery? Why should the latter be legal and the former not?
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« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2007, 07:23:10 pm »
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down is not libertarian leaning.  He is hard right in social views.

I really hold zero conservative social views except for abortion (which there are plently of pro-life libertarians), gay marriage (religious), and support of the Patriot Act.  I more than make up for that with hardcore libertarian positions of opposing a National ID card, legalization of all drugs, legalization of prostitution, abolishment of the FCC, and other issues like that.  To say I'm more conservative than libertarian is absurd.

If you oppose gay marriage on religious grounds, wouldn't it be logical to also oppose the legalization of prostitution on the same grounds?

No, b/c prostitution is something that a person does an individual choice, an also against gay marriage b/c it degrades society and makes a mockery.

If one believes (which you probably don't) that men and women and gays and straights are equal, how would gay marriage degrade society and make a mockery? Doesn't marrying and divorcing five times create a bigger mockery? Why should the latter be legal and the former not?

Because being gay is not something to flaunt in the streets, deny it all you want but is the kind of stuff the terrorists get pissed off about and they are right to get pissed about it.  We anger the majority of the civilized world where religion is respected and not pissed on
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« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2007, 07:30:16 pm »
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Oh yes, Osama bin Laden would be perfectly fine with the US if we simply dropped the campaign to legalize gay marriage.
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« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2007, 07:39:02 pm »
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He would also not have ordered operatives to kill thousands of Americans, if only we had public hangings of gays at Madison Square Garden and forced all Jews to live in reservations in Nevada.
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« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2007, 10:53:40 pm »
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down is not libertarian leaning.  He is hard right in social views.

I really hold zero conservative social views except for abortion (which there are plently of pro-life libertarians), gay marriage (religious), and support of the Patriot Act.  I more than make up for that with hardcore libertarian positions of opposing a National ID card, legalization of all drugs, legalization of prostitution, abolishment of the FCC, and other issues like that.  To say I'm more conservative than libertarian is absurd.

If you oppose gay marriage on religious grounds, wouldn't it be logical to also oppose the legalization of prostitution on the same grounds?

No, b/c prostitution is something that a person does an individual choice, an also against gay marriage b/c it degrades society and makes a mockery.

If one believes (which you probably don't) that men and women and gays and straights are equal, how would gay marriage degrade society and make a mockery? Doesn't marrying and divorcing five times create a bigger mockery? Why should the latter be legal and the former not?

Because being gay is not something to flaunt in the streets, deny it all you want but is the kind of stuff the terrorists get pissed off about and they are right to get pissed about it.  We anger the majority of the civilized world where religion is respected and not pissed on

Then how do you explain your positive social score on the matrix?
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« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2007, 10:56:27 pm »
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Because being gay is not something to flaunt in the streets, deny it all you want but is the kind of stuff the terrorists get pissed off about and they are right to get pissed about it.  We anger the majority of the civilized world where religion is respected and not pissed on

Do you honestly believe that the terrorists hate America because America is tolerant of gay people, or are you just saying this to get a reaction?
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« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2007, 02:17:55 pm »
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You see my dear friend Gabu, Iran is the pinnacle of civilization. They recognize how the infidel Americans are the Great Satan and anyone who does not believe in their belief will burn in hell for eternity.

Actually, it's likely DWTL is like Hawkeye a while back. Regardless, he should understand he's lucky Dave did not ban him after his BlueDogDem account was uncovered.
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« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2007, 02:23:35 pm »
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Because being gay is not something to flaunt in the streets, deny it all you want but is the kind of stuff the terrorists get pissed off about and they are right to get pissed about it.  We anger the majority of the civilized world where religion is respected and not pissed on

Do you honestly believe that the terrorists hate America because America is tolerant of gay people, or are you just saying this to get a reaction?

A combination of the two Smiley
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« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2007, 02:37:54 pm »
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Because being gay is not something to flaunt in the streets, deny it all you want but is the kind of stuff the terrorists get pissed off about and they are right to get pissed about it.  We anger the majority of the civilized world where religion is respected and not pissed on

Do you honestly believe that the terrorists hate America because America is tolerant of gay people, or are you just saying this to get a reaction?

A combination of the two Smiley

If that was what the terrorists hated America for, why wouldn't they go after someone else?  America is one of the least tolerant places of gay people in the Western world.
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« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2007, 09:00:11 pm »
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« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2007, 10:27:52 pm »
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The fake Libertarian against the fake Democrat. I'll take option c, please.
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« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2007, 10:35:34 pm »
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Because being gay is not something to flaunt in the streets, deny it all you want but is the kind of stuff the terrorists get pissed off about and they are right to get pissed about it.  We anger the majority of the civilized world where religion is respected and not pissed on

Do you honestly believe that the terrorists hate America because America is tolerant of gay people, or are you just saying this to get a reaction?

A combination of the two Smiley

If that was what the terrorists hated America for, why wouldn't they go after someone else?  America is one of the least tolerant places of gay people in the Western world.
That's actually not true.
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« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2007, 11:22:57 pm »
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Because being gay is not something to flaunt in the streets, deny it all you want but is the kind of stuff the terrorists get pissed off about and they are right to get pissed about it.  We anger the majority of the civilized world where religion is respected and not pissed on

Do you honestly believe that the terrorists hate America because America is tolerant of gay people, or are you just saying this to get a reaction?

A combination of the two Smiley

If that was what the terrorists hated America for, why wouldn't they go after someone else?  America is one of the least tolerant places of gay people in the Western world.
That's actually not true.

"One of the" means Australia can be equally intolerant and not discredit the statement. (Poland is not part of the Western World.)
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« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2007, 03:30:10 pm »
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Because being gay is not something to flaunt in the streets, deny it all you want but is the kind of stuff the terrorists get pissed off about and they are right to get pissed about it.  We anger the majority of the civilized world where religion is respected and not pissed on

Do you honestly believe that the terrorists hate America because America is tolerant of gay people, or are you just saying this to get a reaction?

A combination of the two Smiley

If that was what the terrorists hated America for, why wouldn't they go after someone else?  America is one of the least tolerant places of gay people in the Western world.
That's actually not true.

"One of the" means Australia can be equally intolerant and not discredit the statement. (Poland is not part of the Western World.)

Basically.  I mean, if the terrorists hate America because they don't lynch gay people, why wouldn't they instead blow up the CN Tower or something?  Canada has legalized gay marriage outright, for God's sake.  We're orders of magnitude more sinful and heretical than the godly Americans.
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