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Tender Branson
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« on: May 29, 2007, 06:37:02 AM »

Tuesday, May 29, 2007

Giuliani: 25% (-1)
Romney: 16% (+1)
McCain: 15% (-3)
Thompson: 12% (-2)
Gingrich: ?

The immigration reform debate may be shaking up the race for the Republican Presidential nomination. Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney has inched past Arizona Senator John McCain for second place in the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone poll. Just two weeks ago, Romney was in fourth place among GOP hopefuls.

McCain, once considered the dominant frontrunner, has been strongly supportive of the immigration reform bill being debated in the Senate. That bill is unpopular with the general public—just 26% of voters favor its passage.

Romney has announced his strong opposition to the immigration bill and Giuliani called it a “hodgepodge… without any central focus.” Thompson said “We should scrap this bill and the whole debate until we can convince the American people that we have secured the borders or at least have made great headway." Most Americans are willing to support an enforcement-only approach at this time.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/2008_republican_presidential_primary
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2007, 07:58:27 AM »

I'm really shocked at the pace McCain has collasped in this race.
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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2007, 08:22:49 AM »

Highest ever number for Romney in a national poll.  Romney and Thompson are now tied for 3rd in RCP's national poll average.  Ever since the polls started including Thompson, he's been third, while Romney had been fourth, but Romney has now caught up.
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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2007, 10:52:59 AM »

Tuesday, May 29, 2007

Giuliani: 25% (-1)
Romney: 16% (+1)
McCain: 15% (-3)
Thompson: 12% (-2)
Gingrich: ?

The immigration reform debate may be shaking up the race for the Republican Presidential nomination. Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney has inched past Arizona Senator John McCain for second place in the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone poll. Just two weeks ago, Romney was in fourth place among GOP hopefuls.

McCain, once considered the dominant frontrunner, has been strongly supportive of the immigration reform bill being debated in the Senate. That bill is unpopular with the general public—just 26% of voters favor its passage.

Romney has announced his strong opposition to the immigration bill and Giuliani called it a “hodgepodge… without any central focus.” Thompson said “We should scrap this bill and the whole debate until we can convince the American people that we have secured the borders or at least have made great headway." Most Americans are willing to support an enforcement-only approach at this time.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/2008_republican_presidential_primary

Actually things are much worse for McCain than they appear on the surface in this survey.

Republican organizers, particularly in the south, are abandoning McCain in droves.

This is going to hurt him very badly in caucus states where organization is critical.

Republicans in Iowa tried to tell him they did not like amnesty for illegal aliens, but McCain ignored them.

Well, he will pay the price.
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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2007, 11:20:12 AM »

Tuesday, May 29, 2007

Giuliani: 25% (-1)
Romney: 16% (+1)
McCain: 15% (-3)
Thompson: 12% (-2)
Gingrich: ?

The immigration reform debate may be shaking up the race for the Republican Presidential nomination. Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney has inched past Arizona Senator John McCain for second place in the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone poll. Just two weeks ago, Romney was in fourth place among GOP hopefuls.

McCain, once considered the dominant frontrunner, has been strongly supportive of the immigration reform bill being debated in the Senate. That bill is unpopular with the general public—just 26% of voters favor its passage.

Romney has announced his strong opposition to the immigration bill and Giuliani called it a “hodgepodge… without any central focus.” Thompson said “We should scrap this bill and the whole debate until we can convince the American people that we have secured the borders or at least have made great headway." Most Americans are willing to support an enforcement-only approach at this time.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/2008_republican_presidential_primary

Actually things are much worse for McCain than they appear on the surface in this survey.

Republican organizers, particularly in the south, are abandoning McCain in droves.

This is going to hurt him very badly in caucus states where organization is critical.

Republicans in Iowa tried to tell him they did not like amnesty for illegal aliens, but McCain ignored them.

Well, he will pay the price.

Do you really think this is about illegal immigration? It's not as if Giuliani or Romney or Thompson is taking your extremist positions.
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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2007, 11:32:41 AM »

Tuesday, May 29, 2007

Giuliani: 25% (-1)
Romney: 16% (+1)
McCain: 15% (-3)
Thompson: 12% (-2)
Gingrich: ?

The immigration reform debate may be shaking up the race for the Republican Presidential nomination. Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney has inched past Arizona Senator John McCain for second place in the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone poll. Just two weeks ago, Romney was in fourth place among GOP hopefuls.

McCain, once considered the dominant frontrunner, has been strongly supportive of the immigration reform bill being debated in the Senate. That bill is unpopular with the general public—just 26% of voters favor its passage.

Romney has announced his strong opposition to the immigration bill and Giuliani called it a “hodgepodge… without any central focus.” Thompson said “We should scrap this bill and the whole debate until we can convince the American people that we have secured the borders or at least have made great headway." Most Americans are willing to support an enforcement-only approach at this time.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/2008_republican_presidential_primary

Actually things are much worse for McCain than they appear on the surface in this survey.

Republican organizers, particularly in the south, are abandoning McCain in droves.

This is going to hurt him very badly in caucus states where organization is critical.

Republicans in Iowa tried to tell him they did not like amnesty for illegal aliens, but McCain ignored them.

Well, he will pay the price.

Do you really think this is about illegal immigration? It's not as if Giuliani or Romney or Thompson is taking your extremist positions.

Well, you are consistent.  Consistently wrong.

First, I support enforcing existing laws, hardly an extremist position.

Second, Giuliani has noted that the currently legislation is flawed, while Romney and Thompson have both come out against it.

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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2007, 12:13:53 PM »
« Edited: May 29, 2007, 12:21:49 PM by Verily »

Tuesday, May 29, 2007

Giuliani: 25% (-1)
Romney: 16% (+1)
McCain: 15% (-3)
Thompson: 12% (-2)
Gingrich: ?

The immigration reform debate may be shaking up the race for the Republican Presidential nomination. Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney has inched past Arizona Senator John McCain for second place in the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone poll. Just two weeks ago, Romney was in fourth place among GOP hopefuls.

McCain, once considered the dominant frontrunner, has been strongly supportive of the immigration reform bill being debated in the Senate. That bill is unpopular with the general public—just 26% of voters favor its passage.

Romney has announced his strong opposition to the immigration bill and Giuliani called it a “hodgepodge… without any central focus.” Thompson said “We should scrap this bill and the whole debate until we can convince the American people that we have secured the borders or at least have made great headway." Most Americans are willing to support an enforcement-only approach at this time.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/2008_republican_presidential_primary

Actually things are much worse for McCain than they appear on the surface in this survey.

Republican organizers, particularly in the south, are abandoning McCain in droves.

This is going to hurt him very badly in caucus states where organization is critical.

Republicans in Iowa tried to tell him they did not like amnesty for illegal aliens, but McCain ignored them.

Well, he will pay the price.

Do you really think this is about illegal immigration? It's not as if Giuliani or Romney or Thompson is taking your extremist positions.

Well, you are consistent.  Consistently wrong.

First, I support enforcing existing laws, hardly an extremist position.

Second, Giuliani has noted that the currently legislation is flawed, while Romney and Thompson have both come out against it.



I beg to differ. Giuliani has been critical of McCain's proposal for being too hard on illegal immigrants. Romney has supported amnesty for illegal immigrants. Maybe Thompson is opposing it, but the others certainly are not.

Let us quote Mitt Romney, "I don't believe in rounding up 11 million people and forcing them at gunpoint from our country." (March 2006)

"The governor [Romney] said he wants to see reforms that encourage illegal workers to register with the government, pay taxes and apply for citizenship." (He has opposed current amnesty proposals from the misunderstanding that they would be perpetual amnesty rather than one-time amnesty.)

While mayor of New York City, from Wikipedia, "Giuliani continued a policy of preventing city employees from contacting the Immigration and Naturalization Service about immigration violations, on the grounds that illegal aliens must be able to take actions such as to send their children to school or report crime and violations without fear of deportation. He ordered city attorneys to defend this policy in federal court."

To quote Giuliani himself, "I believe the anti-immigration movement in America is one of our most serious public problems."
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« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2007, 02:14:21 PM »

First, lets look at what Romney has recently had to say:

GOVERNOR ROMNEY: "We're going to have to secure our border first. Two, put in place an employment verification system to make sure we're giving jobs only to those people who come legally. And number three, for the 12 million, we can't allow them to have a special privilege of being able to stay here indefinitely." MIKE GALLAGHER: "Well, I tell you that's music to my ears and to the ears of millions of Americans…" ("Mike Gallagher Show," 5/21

Here's Fred Thompson:

The immigration reform bill worked out late last week by Senate Republicans and Democrats likely will fail, former senator and possible presidential candidate Fred Thompson said here Sunday.

Thompson, speaking at the National Restaurant Association annual show, said the bill will not win the support of the American people because they don't trust senators' promises to block illegal immigrants from crossing the Mexican border into the U.S.

"Nobody believes them. It goes to the bigger issue of the lack of credibility our government has these days," said Thompson, who was greeted with hoots and applause from the 2,300 convention attendees who filled a ballroom at the McCormick Place convention center.

I'm having problems with the search engine with Giuliani. 

Yes, Giuliani is for amnesty, open borders, opposed to enforcement of existing laws against employing illegal aliens, opposes the right to keep and bear arms, supports abortion on demand (including soaking taxpayers for abortions), opposes the line item veto, and is generally a left wing extremist.  However, he has recently moderated his rhetoric.


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