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WalterMitty
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« on: June 10, 2007, 10:32:33 PM »

im really hoping for a debbie wasserman-schultz challenge to whathisname.  the sec of hud turned part time senator turned part time (and inneffective) leader of the rnc.
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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2007, 10:47:32 PM »

Debbie Wasserman-Schultz - extremely annoying
Mel Martinez - Uh...whatever


Talk about a race I'd hate to watch.
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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2007, 10:48:47 PM »

im really hoping for a debbie wasserman-schultz challenge to whathisname.  the sec of hud turned part time senator turned part time (and inneffective) leader of the rnc.


she would be an excellent Senator
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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2007, 11:21:07 PM »

I'd like for Jim Davis to give it a run. Martinez is a hell of a much weaker candidate than Crist, who is actually turning out to be a good governor after all.
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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2007, 11:28:03 PM »

I'd like for Jim Davis to give it a run. Martinez is a hell of a much weaker candidate than Crist, who is actually turning out to be a good governor after all.

I don't know how Martinez won in 2004 because he was a very weak candidate.  He probably only won due to Bush's coattails.  If there is a Republican President in office in 2010, I don't see how he wins reelection.
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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2007, 11:30:36 PM »

  If there is a Republican President in office in 2010, I don't see how he wins reelection.

....a popular Republican President might help him....
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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2007, 11:34:52 PM »

  If there is a Republican President in office in 2010, I don't see how he wins reelection.

....a popular Republican President might help him....

Presidents are rarely popular enough to held their party in a midterm.  The only example is Bush in 2002 and that was because of 9/11.  I don't count Clinton in 1998 because Republicans already held so many vulnerable seats.
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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2007, 02:05:32 AM »

I'd like for Jim Davis to give it a run. Martinez is a hell of a much weaker candidate than Crist, who is actually turning out to be a good governor after all.

I don't know how Martinez won in 2004 because he was a very weak candidate.  He probably only won due to Bush's coattails.  If there is a Republican President in office in 2010, I don't see how he wins reelection.

It was Bush winning Florida 52%-47% that allowed Martinez to win 49%-48% - he ran better than Bush only in Miami.  I'm not sure whether Debbie Wassmeran-Schultz would be the best candidate against Martinez, but he is definitely vulnerable.  If only Allen Boyd weren't so old he would be a decent candidate.  I think it could end up being Alex Sink, the only elected statewide Democrat. 
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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2007, 02:17:27 PM »

  If there is a Republican President in office in 2010, I don't see how he wins reelection.

....a popular Republican President might help him....

I see a Republican President in 2010 being anout average in terms of popularity, Also Florida leans Republican in the midterms of that year due to the fact that it is becoming more of a Republican state.
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« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2007, 07:10:32 PM »

The only reason Mel Martinez is in the senate is because of Miami, and he had a pretty weak opponent in Betty Castor. I think Jim Davis,Wasserman-Schultz, and Alex Sink would be good choices. It should definitely be targeted in 2010.
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« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2007, 11:16:45 PM »

  If there is a Republican President in office in 2010, I don't see how he wins reelection.

....a popular Republican President might help him....

Presidents are rarely popular enough to held their party in a midterm.  The only example is Bush in 2002 and that was because of 9/11.  I don't count Clinton in 1998 because Republicans already held so many vulnerable seats.

If you want to go back in U.S History, you can look to the Depression era midterm of 1934 in which the Democrats picked up 9 House seats and 10 Senate seats. I'd say FDR wasn't a liability to Democrats in that election. That was before his ill-fated court-packing plan.
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« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2007, 03:55:43 AM »

  If there is a Republican President in office in 2010, I don't see how he wins reelection.

....a popular Republican President might help him....

Presidents are rarely popular enough to held their party in a midterm.  The only example is Bush in 2002 and that was because of 9/11.  I don't count Clinton in 1998 because Republicans already held so many vulnerable seats.

If you want to go back in U.S History, you can look to the Depression era midterm of 1934 in which the Democrats picked up 9 House seats and 10 Senate seats. I'd say FDR wasn't a liability to Democrats in that election. That was before his ill-fated court-packing plan.

Roosevelt in 1934, Kennedy in 1962, Clinton in 1998 and Bush in 2002 are exceptions that prove the rule.  By comparison, look at Truman in 1946, Eisenhower in 1954 and especially 1958, Johnson in 1966, Nixon in 1974, Carter in 1978, Reagan in 1982 and 1986 and Clinton in 1994. 
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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2007, 09:58:55 AM »

I'd like for Jim Davis to give it a run. Martinez is a hell of a much weaker candidate than Crist, who is actually turning out to be a good governor after all.

I don't know how Martinez won in 2004 because he was a very weak candidate.  He probably only won due to Bush's coattails.  If there is a Republican President in office in 2010, I don't see how he wins reelection.

It was Bush winning Florida 52%-47% that allowed Martinez to win 49%-48% - he ran better than Bush only in Miami.  I'm not sure whether Debbie Wassmeran-Schultz would be the best candidate against Martinez, but he is definitely vulnerable.  If only Allen Boyd weren't so old he would be a decent candidate.  I think it could end up being Alex Sink, the only elected statewide Democrat. 

wasserman-schultz would be an excellent candidate and an even better senator!
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