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London Maps
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June 16, 2007, 12:44:26 pm »
Various maps (and other stuff) to do with London (demographics, elections and so on) will be posted in this thread.
To start with, a sort of borough regions map:
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June 16, 2007, 05:28:21 pm »
Percentage of council seats held by each major party:
All London: Con 42.1, Lab 36.6, LDem 17.1
LCC: Lab 42.9, Con 35.6, LDem 17.7
Essex: Lab 48.1, Con 29.3, LDem 10.5
North London: Con 40.1, Lab 39.7, LDem 20.2
West London: Con 54.1, Lab 36.6, LDem 5.1
S.W: LDem 43.0, Con 42.1, Lab 13.4
Croydon & Kentish: Con 75.6, Lab 20.7, LDem 3.6
Shaded maps soon
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And here they are:
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June 17, 2007, 11:51:48 am »
These maps (at borough level) are based on a socio-economic classification done by the ONS. I've grouped ten into five groups of two.
St. is student, btw. The others are in descending order of social "importance" (if that's the best word to use).
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Re: London Maps
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June 17, 2007, 01:48:24 pm »
How does one Define a "I", "II", "III", "IV", "V" Class type of person anyway....
Funny that the Bluest and the Purplest areas seem to be the most Liberal Democrat...
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Re: London Maps
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Quote from: Gully Foyle on June 17, 2007, 01:48:24 pm
How does one Define a "I", "II", "III", "IV", "V" Class type of person anyway....
Funny that the Bluest and the Purplest areas seem to be the most Liberal Democrat...
Presumably, where they're significantly stronger than Labour they mop up Labour strategic votes easily, which makes them stronger in wealthier areas where Labour is weak.
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Quote from: Gully Foyle on June 17, 2007, 01:48:24 pm
How does one Define a "I", "II", "III", "IV", "V" Class type of person anyway....
By type of employment. They are made up of the following NS-SEC groups:
I: Higher Managerial and Higher Professional (ie; upper middle class)
II: Lower '' '' and Intermediate (ie; the
Daily Mail
reading classes)
III: Small Employers & Own Account Workers and Lower Supervisory & Technical (what it says on the tin really)
IV: Routine/Semi-Routine (class blue collar occupations and so on... mostly anyway...)
V: Never Worked and Long Term Unemployed
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Re: London Maps
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June 18, 2007, 12:05:50 pm »
Occupation Groups by borough:
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June 18, 2007, 08:22:26 pm »
Religion:
I probably won't bother doing ward-level maps of three of these (Christian, Buddhist, Other) for a couple of reasons. At least not for a while. Ditto some others in some areas; not much point doing Sikhs in North London for example.
As for colours, some were obvious, some made sense after thinking about things for a little (Christian for example; thinking of the Last Supper and so on) some were more random.
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Re: London Maps
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June 19, 2007, 08:02:18 am »
What's the area shaded 30% for Muslims, Al?
Funny that I often associated London Jews with the East end.. or is that archaic?
What would be the predominant "Other Religions"?
Am I asking too many Questions, etc
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June 19, 2007, 08:56:46 am »
Quote from: Gully Foyle on June 19, 2007, 08:02:18 am
What's the area shaded 30% for Muslims, Al?
Funny that I often associated London Jews with the East end.. or is that archaic?
What would be the predominant "Other Religions"?
Am I asking too many Questions, etc
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That's Tower Hamlets (Bethnal Green and Bow and Poplar and Limehouse constituencies)
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Quote from: Gully Foyle on June 19, 2007, 08:02:18 am
What's the area shaded 30% for Muslims, Al?
Tower Hamlets
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Funny that I often associated London Jews with the East end.. or is that archaic?
It's archaic; Jews started to move out of Stepney in the '30's (for obvious reasons...) and also after the War. There are still little pockets here and there though.
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What would be the predominant "Other Religions"?
Not sure, but probably ones strongest in India.
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June 19, 2007, 08:59:21 am »
Ethnic groups and so on now:
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Quote from: Al the Sleepy Bear on June 19, 2007, 08:57:28 am
Not sure, but probably ones strongest in India.
No Jedi?
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Quote from: Verily on June 19, 2007, 09:37:23 am
Quote from: Al the Sleepy Bear on June 19, 2007, 08:57:28 am
Not sure, but probably ones strongest in India.
No Jedi?
ONS counted "Jedi" as being part of No Religion
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June 19, 2007, 12:13:36 pm »
Housing Tenure:
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June 25, 2007, 07:45:37 pm »
Quote from: Al the Sleepy Bear on June 19, 2007, 08:57:28 am
It's archaic; Jews started to move out of Stepney in the '30's (for obvious reasons...) and also after the War. There are still little pockets here and there though.
A lot of the Jews in Ilford came from the East End IIRC.
In fact, I have an article from the Guardian about this.. (On my wall in fact, beacuse it has maps in it) with stuff about this..
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June 25, 2007, 07:48:22 pm »
Here it is (the bit specific to religion):
http://www.guardian.co.uk/britain/article/0,,1395541,00.html
and here's the general special report it came from:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/britain/london/0,,1394802,00.html
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July 17, 2007, 01:13:09 pm »
Religion by ward for the old LCC area:
Bigger map & Sources here
Some notes about the map will be online soon-ish.
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Bigger map & sources here
Oh, yes... one other thing. It's likely that the Jewish pattern is a little misleading in areas with a lot of Secular Jews (and West London isn't one of those areas; I'd intended to add this note with the previous set of maps but forgot) for obvious reasons.
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And here be North London:
Bigger map & Sources here
Yeah, I know I said I wouldn't bother doing Sikhs in North London. But there are just enough in Brent/Harrow for a map to be made.
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July 23, 2007, 06:34:41 pm »
South London:
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...and Essex London:
bigger version is here... of course
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Any maps of the 2005 general election in London?
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Quote from: Lt. Governor Sir Brutus Hashemite on July 23, 2007, 06:56:11 pm
Any maps of the 2005 general election in London?
A lot of election maps will be up here at some point (going back quite a long way), but here's a little one for now:
Map shows % majority; the pink/light blue/light yellow is for majorities under 5%, everything works up from there.
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