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« Reply #50 on: July 09, 2007, 06:37:21 PM »

Current Tallies

Striking Section 7
Aye: 3 (Sam; DWTL; PBrunsel)
Nay: 2 (Ebowed; Brandon)
Yet to Vote: 4 (Al; Lewis; Phil; Rob)

Striking Section 5
Aye: 2 (Sam; PBrunsel)
Nay: 3 (Ebowed; Brandon; DWTL)
Yet to Vote: 4 (Al; Lewis; Phil; Rob)
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« Reply #51 on: July 10, 2007, 06:43:19 PM »

Can't say that I know much about digital copyright stuff. Will have to read up on it before voting.
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« Reply #52 on: July 10, 2007, 06:49:52 PM »

Can't say that I know much about digital copyright stuff. Will have to read up on it before voting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millenium_Copyright_Act

Hope this helps.
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« Reply #53 on: July 10, 2007, 06:52:43 PM »


Thanks Smiley

I'll read it when I'm next online. Need sleep now.
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« Reply #54 on: July 11, 2007, 01:39:32 PM »

Abstain on both
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« Reply #55 on: July 11, 2007, 02:08:33 PM »

Aye on striking Section 7.

Not quite sure I've understood what section 5 does...
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« Reply #56 on: July 11, 2007, 02:30:05 PM »

Lewis, Section 5 (which repeals Section 102 of the DMCA) does this per Ernest:

Title I: WIPO Copyright and Performances and Phonograms Treaties Implementation Act
This part does two separate things.  Section 102 brought the U.S. into alignment with WIPO on the treatment of sound recording under copyright law.  Section 103 dealt with copy protection systems by adding chapter 12 to title 18.  The parts dealing specifically with requirements for VHS and 8mm video tape players are effectively obsolete already, the rest of chapter 12 makes circumventing copy protection systems illegal itself regardless of whether it used to copy a protected work.

BrandonH's link above is also helpful.
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« Reply #57 on: July 11, 2007, 02:31:48 PM »
« Edited: July 11, 2007, 09:05:57 PM by Sam Spade »

Current Tallies

Striking Section 7
Aye: 4 (Sam; DWTL; PBrunsel, Lewis)
Nay: 4 (Ebowed; Brandon, Al)
Yet to Vote: 1 (Phil)

Striking Section 5
Aye: 2 (Sam; PBrunsel)
Nay: 5 (Ebowed; Brandon; DWTL; Al)
Yet to Vote: 2 (Lewis; Phil)

Roughly about 2 days left to vote on the amendments.
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« Reply #58 on: July 11, 2007, 02:48:08 PM »

Lewis, Section 5 (which repeals Section 102 of the DMCA) does this per Ernest:

Title I: WIPO Copyright and Performances and Phonograms Treaties Implementation Act
This part does two separate things.  Section 102 brought the U.S. into alignment with WIPO on the treatment of sound recording under copyright law.

BrandonH's link above is also helpful.
Okay, but in which sense was the US previously different? What got changed/would change depending on this vote (major points only)?

I guess I could figure this out myself... but you would have to wait til friday for my vote. Smiley
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« Reply #59 on: July 11, 2007, 02:56:30 PM »

According to this...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WIPO_Copyright_and_Performances_and_Phonograms_Treaties_Implementation_Act

it appears like Section 102 only modifies US copyright law to include works produced in the countries signing the afore-mentioned treaties.  I have no idea which countries those are.
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« Reply #60 on: July 11, 2007, 05:19:25 PM »

Section 102 also added various forms of moral rights for recordings of live performances that prior U.S. copyright law did not have.  So even if the economic rights (i.e. copyright) were held by someone else, the original performer(s) could still object to alterations of their performance, such as digitally adding a fifth Beatle for instance.
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« Reply #61 on: July 11, 2007, 06:00:33 PM »

Upon further examination of these amendments and the issues and possibilities that surround them, I would like to change my votes to;

1. Nay
2. Nay
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« Reply #62 on: July 11, 2007, 08:44:04 PM »

1. Nay
2. Nay
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« Reply #63 on: July 11, 2007, 09:13:28 PM »
« Edited: July 12, 2007, 06:13:00 AM by Sam Spade »

EDIT:  You don't get 24 hours to change your vote when an amendment passes.  Screw-up!
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« Reply #64 on: July 11, 2007, 10:03:05 PM »

1. Aye
2. Aye
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« Reply #65 on: July 12, 2007, 08:09:29 AM »

With 5 votes in favor and 4 against and being there are only 9 Senators at the present time, the amendment to strike Section 7 passes.

With 3 votes in favor and 5 against and being there are only 9 Senators at the present time, the amendment to strike Section 5 fails.
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« Reply #66 on: July 13, 2007, 04:57:45 AM »

Oh well, seems like I don't have to make up my mind on that one anymore.
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« Reply #67 on: July 13, 2007, 09:06:42 AM »

I'm going to leave 24 hours open for more amendments.  After that, I will bring a motion for cloture (14 days have passed since bill was on Senate floor).
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« Reply #68 on: July 14, 2007, 03:06:46 PM »

The vote is now open on cloture.
A two-thirds majority is required to pass.

Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain on the cloture motion.
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« Reply #69 on: July 14, 2007, 03:14:36 PM »

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« Reply #70 on: July 14, 2007, 03:23:03 PM »

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« Reply #71 on: July 14, 2007, 09:52:26 PM »

Aye.
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« Reply #72 on: July 15, 2007, 03:03:04 AM »

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« Reply #73 on: July 15, 2007, 02:49:19 PM »

Current Tally on Sam's Cloture Motion
Aye: 4 (Phil; Brandon; Sam; Ebowed)
Nay: 0
Abstain: 0
Absent: 1 (DWTL)
Yet to Vote: 3 (Al; Lewis; Rob)

6 Aye votes are required to pass the cloture motion.
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« Reply #74 on: July 15, 2007, 04:52:51 PM »

Uh... aye. Wouldn't we have voted on this pretty soon anyhow?
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