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« on: June 27, 2007, 01:06:23 PM »

I'm not sure if I've already made a post about this, but this was the scenario I predicted on December 31, 2003:

George Bush runs for reelection with token opposition. He selects Elizabeth Dole as his running mate.

Howard Dean ends up being the Democratic nominee, and he selects Hillary Clinton for VP. Clinton relectantly accepts, prolonging her own presidential ambitions until 2012.

How does this turn out? I predicted a narrow Bush win, but what are your opinions?
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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2007, 01:08:38 PM »

here's how I predict it would have turned out:
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2007, 09:06:50 PM »


Add Michigan and possibly Oregon to Dean.
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2007, 11:43:28 PM »


Add Michigan and possibly Oregon to Dean.

Michigan and Oregon are already in the democratic problem, do you have problems seeing, True Democrat?

Typo on my part.  I meant Bush.

And please go away.  No one wants you here.
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2007, 11:19:24 PM »

Dean would really not be taken seriously as a Presidential nominee.

Bush wins a lopsided victory.

Bush/Dole                341
Dean/Clinton            197

Elizabeth Dole becomes the nation's first female Vice President, and a good one at that.

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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2007, 01:04:34 PM »

I am going to make this into another alternate timeline.
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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2007, 08:24:42 PM »
« Edited: July 01, 2007, 08:37:03 PM by Lt. Gov. South Park Conservative »

Here's the start of my timeline:
In the 2004 election of President George Bush (R-TX)/Senator Liddy Dole (R-NC) vs. Governor Howard Dean (D-VT)/Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY), the Bush/Dole ticket prevails:

Bush/Dole 53%
Dean/Clinton 46%
Other 1%



Results for the Senate:
Pickups
IL: Barack Obama (D-IL) wins
SC: Jim Demint (R-SC) wins
LA: David Vitter (R-LA) wins
NC: Richard Burr (R-NC) wins
GA: John Isakson (R-GA) wins
FL: Mel Martinez (R-FL) wins
SD: John Thune (R-SD) wins

Open Holds
CO: Pete Coors (R-CO) wins
OK: Tom Coburn (R-OK) wins
AK: Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) wins

To be the interim senator to replace Dole, Governor Mike Easley (D-NC) chooses retiring senator John Edwards (D-NC).

The current makeup of the Senate is 55-44-1 GOP and the current makeup of the House is 237-197-1 GOP.

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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2007, 07:30:47 PM »


Bush/Dole: 268
Dean/Clinton: 270
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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2007, 01:57:24 PM »

Probably a Bush win by a slightly greater margin in both PV and EV than in RL.
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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2007, 02:05:34 PM »


It would be inexplicable that Dean would win Iowa in the general when he was so soundly rejected by the Democratic caucus goers.
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