SiCKO

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

I could care less if you don't have health care.  Would I like you to? Of course, but if you don't not my problem.

Communicable diseases very quickly become your problem.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

I could care less if you don't have health care.  Would I like you to? Of course, but if you don't not my problem.

Communicable diseases very quickly become your problem.

Cannot say I have ever been effected by something that horrible, and anything that bad I go to my doctor he gives me some good medicine I give my $15 co-pay and in a day or two I feel better.

My biggest problem with UHC is that the government sucks and wastes money and there is no way that UHC would not just be another complicated, abused, and overfunded government program.

And you don't think the current system is complicated, abused, and inefficient.  Ever been to a hospital emergency room in a major city?

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

I could care less if you don't have health care.  Would I like you to? Of course, but if you don't not my problem.

Communicable diseases very quickly become your problem.

Cannot say I have ever been effected by something that horrible, and anything that bad I go to my doctor he gives me some good medicine I give my $15 co-pay and in a day or two I feel better.

My biggest problem with UHC is that the government sucks and wastes money and there is no way that UHC would not just be another complicated, abused, and overfunded government program.

And you don't think the current system is complicated, abused, and inefficient.  Ever been to a hospital emergency room in a major city?

Ever been to a hospital emergency room in a country with socialized medicine?

I live in a state with what is essentially socialized medicine.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Well I live in a country with what is really socialized medicine, and let me tell you it's got nothing on that. Even today, a Ministry of Health study came out saying the average waiting time for a cancer patient to get surgery to remove the cancer was three and a half months, reaching seven months in some cases.

On the whole, I'd prefer people have to wait for surgery than to never get it in the first place.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

And we should all take employment advice from a kid who really doesn't understand how difficult it can be even for a highly qualified person to get a job, especially after quitting a previous job. Companies aren't going to hire you if you say, "I quit my job because it had poor health coverage, but you have good health coverage." They don't want to pay for you.

If you have cancer and a bad job, you deserve to die!

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

And we should all take employment advice from a kid who really doesn't understand how difficult it can be even for a highly qualified person to get a job, especially after quitting a previous job. Companies aren't going to hire you if you say, "I quit my job because it had poor health coverage, but you have good health coverage." They don't want to pay for you.

If you have cancer and a bad job, you deserve to die!

I still fail to see why I should pay for a broken government system.  Does anyone really believe that socialized medicine would work?  I mean we've just had so much success with medicare and social security.

You can argue that "Social Security" could be run better, but even under its current form, I consider the program to be a tremendous success in keeping the rotting corpses of the bankrupted elderly from rotting in the streets.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Yeah. But what is better ? Wait 3 months for cancer therapy (which I find rather extreme) and be insured, or let you treat uninsured and face debts of a trillion $s ?

I don´t know a lot of persons around me with cancer (thank goodness) but I can say that I googled a bit and can say that at least Salzburg State government did a good job in bringing down waiting periods and that cancer drugs are fastest to get for a cure in Austria, Switzerland and Spain, while slowest in the UK. Basically cancer treatment starts right away here.

I think three months to be extreme as well, but I see no reason why the United States need directly emulate other countries' models.  We have the ability to pick and choose components that would best help us avoid the pitfalls.

I'm thinking a multi-tiered [basic care universally, more geared towards catastrophic care] triage based system [longer waits for elective surgery, short/no wait for urgent care as now] with enough of a co-pay to discourage "frivolous" visits -- $25, perhaps?

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Broken window fallacy. You can't possibly know what would have happened if social security had not been instituted. 

Well, I certainly know what would have happened to my grandmother if social security hadn't been implemented.

It's a federally run insurance policy, and it's one that seems to be working as intended.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

You see, most things we love most about America come from the left.

Thank you, liberals, for ice cream, the Grand Canyon, and Baywatch re-runs!