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Question: which do you have a negative opinion of?
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religious people
 
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socialists
 
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neither
 
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« on: July 14, 2007, 01:13:13 AM »

I'm about to the point where I dislike both equally.
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2007, 01:41:34 AM »

I hate them both.
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2007, 02:35:38 AM »

Neither of course, as I fall into both categories.
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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2007, 02:45:40 AM »

I don't dislike religious people, since my mother is a religious person, as is my girlfriend, and the rest of  my family for the most part.

Seeing as I'm not far from being a socialist [I am NOT one], I don't dislike them. So, neither.
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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2007, 05:35:21 AM »

Neither.
Religious people are good for keeping around for humor, though they can be dangerous.
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2007, 07:14:45 AM »
« Edited: July 14, 2007, 07:31:48 AM by Ebowed »

I have a negative opinion of religion, as I believe it does more harm than good.  I don't automatically have a negative opinion of all religious people, of course.  To a large extent, religious fundamentalism is the byproduct of the tendancy of people to become more extreme when surrounded by likeminded people.  This is why fundamentalist communities exist, and religious people outside of those sorts of exclusionary communities tend to be more moderate.  Another thing that can cause extremism is singling out a religion and unfairly making certain accusations about them.  The most obvious example of this is the small minority of Muslims who condone terrorism.  Of course, when a group feels victimized, there can also be a tendency to attempt to reform their image- as demonstrated by the majority of Muslims who condemn terrorism, as well as the Mormons.  The LDS, I believe, is constantly working to legitimize their faith.  I find it quite interesting that they attempt to do this by claiming to fall under the Christian umbrella.  This appears to be accepted nearly universally by non-Christians, but is the subject of much debate among Christians themselves.  (As for my personal position, I can see why the Christians are loathe to accept the Mormons as their own, but then again it's all equally crazy to me.  Many of the arguments that Christians employ against Mormonism-- and I am well versed in the subject, as I've always found this issue particularly interesting-- would apply to Christians themselves.)  The psychology of religion is really quite fascinating.

To hold a negative opinion of people solely based on their religion is impractical among several other things, simply because the odds are that most of the people you meet will be religious, and the odds also are that any atheist or agnostic will have religious friends and family.  Though I think it is fair to say that knowing that someone is religious means that I have one less thing in common with them, so I might be less likely to get along with them.  The same could be said of anyone with a particularly opposing quality, but it is by no means an absolute statement.  I have good friends who are religious, ranging from several young earth creationists to Buddhists.  With some of them, I am willing to debate religious issues-- with others, it simply isn't brought up.

I don't hold a negative opinion of socialists.
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2007, 08:05:04 AM »

niether, and they can go hand in hand. I associate with both groups at a moderate level myself. Though I am definately not a socialist no matter how much hillbillies say I am.
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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2007, 08:17:30 AM »

I don't hold a negative view of many groups en masse.

I think most people of religious faith are good people who have genuine concern. The same is true for socialists.

The problem becomes when they are not part of society, but presume their way to the way all should be and try to aggressively change things.

I also think of myself as christian (although the purist and fundamentalists disagree - and I can't tell you how little I care), I respect the values of socialism - but I don't think it's workable.
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2007, 09:13:19 AM »

I'm a Socialist and I'm also religious. Guess.
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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2007, 09:46:39 AM »

Neither. I might dislike an individual religious person or socialist, and it may be partially due to their views, but for me to have a negative opinion of someone they would usually have to be a jerk or an idiot.
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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2007, 10:22:17 AM »

Neither. I might dislike an individual religious person or socialist, and it may be partially due to their views, but for me to have a negative opinion of someone they would usually have to be a jerk or an idiot.

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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2007, 11:06:26 AM »

Neither. I might dislike an individual religious person or socialist, and it may be partially due to their views, but for me to have a negative opinion of someone they would usually have to be a jerk or an idiot.

It's sad usually that one bad apple spoils the whole barrel. It applies to both groups here.

In this case people like James Dobson or Hugo Chavez have taken these views and have tained them for the world.
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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2007, 10:52:58 PM »


That is my favorite post of yours.
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« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2007, 11:10:04 PM »

I have a negative opinion of socialism, and some religions, but I don't hold that against their believers, personally.
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« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2007, 11:30:19 PM »

Well, most of both mean well, so it's difficult to have a negative opinion of them as people. On the other hand, I obviously have a negative opinion of both as ideologies.
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« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2007, 01:37:10 AM »

I fall marginally into both groups, so neither.
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« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2007, 03:27:38 PM »

Neither of course, as I fall into both categories.

I never saw you as a religious.  I meant more like Al, jmfcst, Bono, ect..
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