would hillary win any bush states?

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She would carry Ohio against just about any Republican (as any serious Democrat would). She would have a great shot at New Mexico and Florida as well. Some of the states would depend on who her opponent was. Obama, Edwards and Richardson would all still fare much better in the red states.

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Also, Virginia could be interesting... depending on the senate race of course.

Not with Clinton though...with Edwards or maybe even Obama or Richardson...but not Clinton.

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Hillary is not well liked in Ohio...or really anywhere. My take is that it goes for the GOP if McCain, Thompson or Giuliani is nominee. If Al Gore and John Kerry didn't win Ohio...against George Bush...how the heck can Shrillary?

...because the Republican party is now considered a joke (especially in Ohio).

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People will see a guy on the ballot who promises to continue the war in Iraq indefinitely, and they'll vote for the main candidate running against him.

I disagree. Hillary is not anti-war...neither is Giuliani. If the War on Terror in Iraq is the main issue next year, and we have two candidates that want to change or end the war but are not staunch anti-war...then the voters move to likeability, which Rudy has much more of than Hillary.

Hillary wants to set a date for ending the war. Giuliani wants to continue it indefinitely. Huge difference. I also have no doubt you'd say unambigously anti-war Obama and Edwards would lose Ohio.

Yes, they would both lose Ohio. For obvious reasons, of course.

Such as? And the "too liberal" argument won't work in a state that elected Sherrod Brown.

In a national election, it hurts more. Also, 2006 was a more unfriendly year for the GOP than 2008 will be. But no, Obama is inexperienced and very liberal, and Edwards is a guy who believes in two Americas and no war on terror. They would get creamed.

O RLY?

You are entitled to your opinion but I see no serious evidence to back up your claim that Obama and Edwards would be creamed there. Not to mention 2008 is looking like it will be FAR WORSE for Republicans then 2006 was so far.

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Why does everyone think Ohio is so racist?