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« on: July 15, 2007, 12:11:41 pm »
I've been looking forward to doing these for a while. Sad, aren't I? Anyways, the first one:



For a full description (and a bigger map) go the Gallery

There are, of course, more s/p catagories than those four, it's just that they aren't very fun to make maps of at department level. Constituency is, as you will soon see, different...
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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2007, 04:21:13 pm »
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Generally the pattern I'd expected, although that one department in the Pyrenees, I'd also expected there to be more manual workers in parts of the south west (for places around Toulouse etc.
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2007, 04:37:28 pm »
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Generally the pattern I'd expected, although that one department in the Pyrenees, I'd also expected there to be more manual workers in parts of the south west (for places around Toulouse etc.
Toulouse is the one stick-out Pyrenées département.
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2007, 07:51:04 pm »
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Generally the pattern I'd expected, although that one department in the Pyrenees, I'd also expected there to be more manual workers in parts of the south west (for places around Toulouse etc.
Toulouse is the one stick-out Pyrenées département.

Crazy, I had assumed Toulouse was a major manufacturing area, but I'm not sure what that was ever based on..
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2007, 08:09:39 pm »
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Generally the pattern I'd expected, although that one department in the Pyrenees, I'd also expected there to be more manual workers in parts of the south west (for places around Toulouse etc.
Toulouse is the one stick-out Pyrenées département.

Crazy, I had assumed Toulouse was a major manufacturing area, but I'm not sure what that was ever based on..

Airbus?
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2007, 01:41:52 pm »
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Generally the pattern I'd expected, although that one department in the Pyrenees, I'd also expected there to be more manual workers in parts of the south west (for places around Toulouse etc.
Toulouse is the one stick-out Pyrenées département.

Crazy, I had assumed Toulouse was a major manufacturing area, but I'm not sure what that was ever based on..

Airbus?
Indeed. Apparently all the Airbus workers, no matter how grimy their job is, are too skilled to count as "ouvriers" for the French census. Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2007, 04:25:15 pm »
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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2007, 06:12:18 pm »
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Indeed. Apparently all the Airbus workers, no matter how grimy their job is, are too skilled to count as "ouvriers" for the French census. Smiley

"Ouvriers" is made up of the following subgroups: Skilled machine operators and assemblers, Skilled craft workers, Drivers, Skilled manual works in handling - warehousing and transportation, Unskilled machine operators and assemblers, Unskilled craft workers and Farm workers.

The Intemediate-grade occupations catagory includes (amongst other things) Foremen & Supervisors and Technical Staff. Engineers and people in "scientific occupations" are in Managers/Professionals catagory.
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2007, 06:25:03 pm »
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Generally the pattern I'd expected, although that one department in the Pyrenees, I'd also expected there to be more manual workers in parts of the south west (for places around Toulouse etc.
Toulouse is the one stick-out Pyrenées département.

Crazy, I had assumed Toulouse was a major manufacturing area, but I'm not sure what that was ever based on..

Airbus?

Yes that's the one..
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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2007, 09:19:13 pm »
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Apparently Vendée, Philippe de Villiers' département, has the lowest unemployment rate in all of France.
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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2007, 06:05:07 am »
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According he map, that's wrong : Vendée is 9% (green-brown), while Yvelines, Haute-Savoie, Alsace are under 9% (green)

Generally, in occidental democracies, the rural areas are right-leaning and the city areas are left-leaning. But in France, the rural areas of South-West are left-leaning : why ?  Who are the people of the rural areas of South-West : Farmers ? Artisans ? Why do they vote left ?
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2007, 03:56:11 am »
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Oh in that case, PDV is a liar. Tongue
That supposed to be news or what? Huh
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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2007, 09:35:46 am »
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Not really, no. I'll try looking into the latest unemployment numbers in Vendée however.
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2007, 10:30:41 am »
The way the census counted unemployment was different from how it's normally worked out IIRC.
Can't entirely remember how though.
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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2007, 11:12:25 am »
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Bump Smiley

Could anyone post stuff on ethnicity and/or religion?
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« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2007, 01:51:51 pm »
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No, cos it's forbidden to do official surveys on ethnic or religious criterions.
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« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2008, 07:09:03 am »
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This is Nord-Pas de Calais and Picardy.

Bigger version in gallery. See first map in thread for keys and descriptions (though I added an extra, higher, level for Ouvriers).

More soon!
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« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2008, 07:21:46 am »
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Thank you very much for the maps, Al. I hope there's more.

Not a really surprising pattern. I especially like the last two maps.
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« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2008, 01:37:04 pm »
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I did Bretagne using Al's key
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« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2008, 04:40:38 pm »
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Population growth, 1999 to Jan. 2006
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« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2008, 10:53:44 am »
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Median income by household (CU, "consummation units").



Unemployment map 2008



I have data by department by quarter going back to 1982, so I can make some earlier maps if anyone has a specific request.

BTW, if you ever happen to year the Viscount boast that Vendee has the lowest unemployment, it's obviously false.
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« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2008, 04:38:41 pm »
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« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2008, 05:42:56 pm »
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A fine one.
We can see that there is absolutely no relation between any electoral map and this last one....

Can't you find rugby numbers ? Would be geographically interesting.
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« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2008, 06:02:01 am »
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Excellent stuff - has anyone got anything on housing tenure?
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« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2008, 07:35:36 am »
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