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20:49 Snowstalker yes, but i'm the kind of fascist who would have backed the allies
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Cool map.
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February 21, 2012, 10:58:28 am »
http://www.insee.fr/fr/themes/detail.asp?reg_id=0&ref_id=circo_leg-2012
Here are some demographic data from official INSEE,
at the constituency level
, inside new boundaries.
You've got sex, age, nationality (yep, number of foreigners), professional activity, etc.
Some maps in the making, Hash
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February 21, 2012, 05:37:03 pm »
Foreign population is the only one which is kind of interesting
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February 21, 2012, 07:10:05 pm »
Why is there a relatively higher concentration in interior Aquitaine, Haute-Vienne and Tarn-et-Garonne? And what nationality are they? Spanish?
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February 21, 2012, 08:40:12 pm »
Where are all the foreigners in Guiana from?
Quote from: Deformis quodam culinae on February 21, 2012, 07:10:05 pm
Why is there a relatively higher concentration in interior Aquitaine, Haute-Vienne and Tarn-et-Garonne? And what nationality are they? Spanish?
Pieds-noirs, perhaps?
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February 22, 2012, 02:18:32 am »
Quote from: Believe in America on February 21, 2012, 05:37:03 pm
Foreign population is the only one which is kind of interesting
Is there any demographic breakdown of the foreign population based on country of origin? I know the French census doesn't do so, but I believe there's a few private companies that do.
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February 22, 2012, 02:20:04 am »
Quote from: Χahar on February 21, 2012, 08:40:12 pm
Where are all the foreigners in Guiana from?
Quote from: Deformis quodam culinae on February 21, 2012, 07:10:05 pm
Why is there a relatively higher concentration in interior Aquitaine, Haute-Vienne and Tarn-et-Garonne? And what nationality are they? Spanish?
Pieds-noirs, perhaps?
Aren't Pieds-noirs technically French citizens rather than foreigners though?
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Quote from: Χahar on February 21, 2012, 08:40:12 pm
Where are all the foreigners in Guiana from?
Quote from: Deformis quodam culinae on February 21, 2012, 07:10:05 pm
Why is there a relatively higher concentration in interior Aquitaine, Haute-Vienne and Tarn-et-Garonne? And what nationality are they? Spanish?
Pieds-noirs, perhaps?
- Surinam.
- In the SW, I suppose, in Dordogne and Lot (former Quercy before French revolutionaries erased the past
), that's the British who bought many fine old houses...
In Burgundy (see Saône-et-Loire, but also the north of Rhône), same process, with some wine castles.
That's the same probably in Côtes d'Armor and Orne, though houses are less fine there
I'm surprised that Calvados and Seine-Maritime aren't more coloured, but they've got a bigger population, hence a smaller proportion.
As for Lot-et-Garonne (though it's more mixed here: also some British) and Tarn-et-Garonne, it's probable more about poor workers (from Mediterranean countries) in agriculture (fruits, vegetables). Same thing in Aude and Hérault (wine).
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February 22, 2012, 10:17:14 am »
The Insee details foreigners by nationality:
http://www.insee.fr/fr/themes/tableau.asp?reg_id=99&ref_id=t_0405D
In Lot-et-Garonne,
30.6% of the foreign population comes from "another EU country" (UK probably)
27.2% of the foreign population comes from Morocco
20.9% of the foreign population comes from Portugal
Tarn-et-Garonne
29.4% are from Morocco
28.5% are from "another EU country"
12.6% are from Portugal
Haute-Vienne is largely from the EU with a few Algerians.
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February 22, 2012, 07:31:30 pm »
Quote from: Believe in America on February 22, 2012, 10:17:14 am
The Insee details foreigners by nationality:
http://www.insee.fr/fr/themes/tableau.asp?reg_id=99&ref_id=t_0405D
In Lot-et-Garonne,
30.6% of the foreign population comes from "another EU country" (UK probably)
27.2% of the foreign population comes from Morocco
20.9% of the foreign population comes from Portugal
Tarn-et-Garonne
29.4% are from Morocco
28.5% are from "another EU country"
12.6% are from Portugal
Haute-Vienne is largely from the EU with a few Algerians.
Foreigners only make up 5.8% of the population, and the Front National is making it seem as though the country is being overrun with immigrants.
That's probably a smaller percentage of the total population than Germany or the UK. Even Paris's immigrant population is relatively low at below 20%
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February 22, 2012, 07:38:05 pm »
Those only include foreigners - people who lack French citizenship. There are many more French citizens who are first-generation immigrants from North Africa or Europe or at least of North African/European ancestry. They aren't counted in these statistics.
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February 23, 2012, 02:25:39 pm »
Epic map time, demographic version
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February 26, 2012, 01:02:44 pm »
Nobody seems to care
but here are two maps which are key in understanding political traditions
"agglomeree" meant all those people who lived in the "chef-lieu" of the commune (the village's core) while "eparse" meant all those who lived outside the chef-lieu.
Stuff like
this
is 'eparse'; stuff like
this
is agglomerated. Not that there aren't differences; the bocage is way different from the Limousin.
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February 26, 2012, 01:47:28 pm »
Oh, I think we all care. Amazing stuff; diolch.
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February 26, 2012, 06:01:43 pm »
Quote from: Believe in America on February 26, 2012, 01:02:44 pm
"agglomeree" meant all those people who lived in the "chef-lieu" of the commune (the village's core) while "eparse" meant all those who lived outside the chef-lieu.
Stuff like
this
is 'eparse'; stuff like
this
is agglomerated. Not that there aren't differences; the bocage is way different from the Limousin.
The equivalent terms in English would be nucleated (agglomérée) and dispersed (éparse) settlement.
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February 27, 2012, 04:15:20 am »
These latest maps are bloody brilliant - especially the agriculture ones.
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February 27, 2012, 04:41:24 am »
the nucleated map like the vote FN map. Some explainaitions?
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February 27, 2012, 05:56:30 am »
This is excellent. The economic sectors map is especially great.
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February 28, 2012, 09:57:25 am »
Quote from: Colbert on February 27, 2012, 04:41:24 am
the nucleated map like the vote FN map. Some explainaitions?
Poujadiste heritage?
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Quote from: batmacumba on February 28, 2012, 09:57:25 am
Quote from: Colbert on February 27, 2012, 04:41:24 am
the nucleated map like the vote FN map. Some explainaitions?
Poujadiste heritage?
Most certainly not! Look at the Poujadist map in 1956. In the bulk of cases, it is a world away from the modern FN map. The FN is by and large a urban-suburban-industrialized ruralism party, the UFF was a heavily rural affair.
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February 28, 2012, 01:01:50 pm »
'Round here, urban-suburban-industrialized ruralism is a trend of populations which has migrated from rural communities. And the only lepenist I know (who, BTW, is married to a pardo Brazilian and, thus, have a mixed up kid, go figure) comes from a rural family.
I just cannot understand why someone would support a political thought which is harmfull to his own family, if this wasn't some kind of political heritage. But, what can we do, humans are weird.
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February 29, 2012, 08:02:15 pm »
Not perfect (especially in the southeast), but there are some pretty clear political patterns on this map: % of individually exploited farms in 2010
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20:57 Snowstalker sadly, it's a legitimate ideology tarnished by the incompetent mussolini and the vile hitler
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March 01, 2012, 02:37:51 am »
theire is no political connexion between individually exploited farms and ideology.
The connexion is more hill/moutain country vs plain country (globally speaking)
(with the surprising exception of Jura, Larzac and Armorican west mountains)
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Re: French Demographic Maps
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March 01, 2012, 03:35:43 am »
For once, I agree with Colbert.
As for Armorican mountains, well, there are absolutely no muntains there
As for Jura, it's not an agricultural mountain.
Larzac is more surprising.
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