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useful idiot
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Re: Romney's New Ad
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July 16, 2007, 08:10:32 pm »
First of all, saying the girls in a certain place are easy is a) not bigoted and b) nowhere near poughies' statements.
EDIT: after further review of the post in question it does seem like I said brazilians were dumb, but i wasnt referring to the people of brazil, i was talking about the people I worked with, so I'll give you that one. If you look further down in that post I said "the people I come into contact with", being directed at the vapid, airheaded, materialistic rich people I was teaching English to.
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Why the hell would he quote Peggy Noonan of all people? Why not someone who matters and isnt all political?
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July 16, 2007, 08:18:09 pm »
Quote from: MaC on July 16, 2007, 06:30:02 pm
Quote from: Kevin on July 16, 2007, 05:36:52 pm
Quote from: poughies on July 16, 2007, 05:25:39 pm
Hi my name is Mitt Romney.
I think that only material the church of latter days saints approve of should be seen on tv.
I will be sure to legislate my religion on the people of the United Church oh I mean States of America.
I really am conservative..... what I really am! Would a fake conservative has as nice hair as I do?
I'm Mitt Romney and the church approves this message.
That's really low attacking the man because of his religon.
Aside from this, why do you support a candidate who's in such favor of the state inteveneing in your personal life.
Better yet, would you or ANY conservative like to give me a reasonable explanation as to how pornography actually damages kids?
Why, they cause them to take up arms and shoot people at their high schools in a dramatic manner guaranteed to make the news, you dummy.
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July 16, 2007, 08:18:09 pm »
Quote from: useful idiot on December 15, 2005, 02:25:55 pm
No, I'm not Brazilian, I'm from the USA. I hate it here because
the people are soooo dumb
and thier accents just make you want to scream sometimes.
The girls aren't as good as everyone says, it's just that they outnumber the guys pretty heavily, and
they're very promiscuous
. When I got here I thought there was something about me that attracted them, come to find out
they're all pretty slutty
. Prostitution is legal, but
the girls are so loose I doubt it would be worth the money
.
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July 16, 2007, 08:21:08 pm »
Quote from: Conan on July 16, 2007, 08:18:09 pm
Quote from: useful idiot on December 15, 2005, 02:25:55 pm
No, I'm not Brazilian, I'm from the USA. I hate it here because
the people are soooo dumb
and thier accents just make you want to scream sometimes.
The girls aren't as good as everyone says, it's just that they outnumber the guys pretty heavily, and
they're very promiscuous
. When I got here I thought there was something about me that attracted them, come to find out
they're all pretty slutty
. Prostitution is legal, but
the girls are so loose I doubt it would be worth the money
.
"No, I'm not Brazilian, I'm from the USA. I hate it here because the people are soooo dumb and thier accents just make you want to scream sometimes.
People are pre-occupied with really stupid things, especially the bourgeoisie upper-middle-class types I come into contact with.
"
As for the level of their promiscuity, I stick by that wholeheartedly. I'm not saying it's wrong, but it's definitely a part of their culture, and it's not my cup of tea
BTW, I still havent gotten an answer on my comments about Blacks, which was the original reason Eraserhead made the statement. He didnt find the Brazilian thing until later
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July 16, 2007, 08:22:54 pm »
Do you think his first act as president would be to sign an executive order renaming the United States the Republic of Gilead?
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Re: Romney's New Ad
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July 16, 2007, 08:23:28 pm »
Quote from: useful idiot on July 16, 2007, 08:21:08 pm
Quote from: Conan on July 16, 2007, 08:18:09 pm
Quote from: useful idiot on December 15, 2005, 02:25:55 pm
No, I'm not Brazilian, I'm from the USA. I hate it here because
the people are soooo dumb
and thier accents just make you want to scream sometimes.
The girls aren't as good as everyone says, it's just that they outnumber the guys pretty heavily, and
they're very promiscuous
. When I got here I thought there was something about me that attracted them, come to find out
they're all pretty slutty
. Prostitution is legal, but
the girls are so loose I doubt it would be worth the money
.
No, I'm not Brazilian, I'm from the USA. I hate it here because the people are soooo dumb and thier accents just make you want to scream sometimes.
People are pre-occupied with really stupid things, especially the bourgeoisie upper-middle-class types I come into contact with.
As for the level of their promiscuity, I stick by that wholeheartedly. I'm not saying it's wrong, but it's definitely a part of their culture, and it's not my cup of tea
The ironic thing is that you and poughies' statements aren't even comparable because poughies did not actually say anything bad about the 'church of latter days saints'.
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July 16, 2007, 08:29:50 pm »
I admit the things I said were written in a harsh way, but come on, IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO. My critique was of a culture I found devoid of compassion, values, and seriousness(something shocking to me because of my good experiences with Brazilian family and my girlfriend.) If you want me to apologise for it, sure whatever, but I wasn't mocking any of the races of Brazil or their devotion to Catholicism. If anything I was citicizing their(certain segments of the population, specifically the kids of executives that I met and those that moved in their circles) extreme embrace of American capitalist values, and therefore criticizing American style hedonism. I had moved to a place full of millions of Paris Hiltons
I've said all I'm going to say about that post from October of 2005. If any of you can find a hint of prejudice towards blacks in any of my posts I will adress that, as that was the original claim of Eraserhead, that I had made anti-black statements.
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July 16, 2007, 09:05:15 pm »
Did Romney have his $300 makeup on in this new ad?
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0707/4982.html
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Oh sorry! My mistake, I thought being a bigot actually required someone to be a bigot. WOuld u prefer for me to be to say generic church. The point was that Romney is clearly trying to appeal to religious conservatives by appealing to the church. The same way Pat Robertson tries to force his views from the evangelical church. I would make the same joke when Lieberman appeared in those stupid Jerry Falwell ads. I would say he was trying to force his religious views on everyone (I'm jewish). I support Harry Reid. I love the fact that if u dare mention the fact that Romney has tried to make religion apart of this campaign then somehow you are a bigot by trying to say that he is clearly saying that he will listen to his religious views when leading. And these were not the arguments that Romney tried to make when running for the governorship. He has decided to run on as a religious conservative. As such, any person who runs saying that their faith in religion will lead them is open to the attack that the church or temple or mosque (or one of the eastern religions) they belong to will lead them.
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July 16, 2007, 09:19:00 pm »
Let me ad the post itself was not to be offensive in anyway. If that wasn't clear from above the original post was merely saying that he is clearly trying to inflict his religious beliefs upon the nation. Now that doesn't mean that he is trying to make everyone a Mormon. It merely means that the views held by him are the views he is trying to legislate. The same way George Bush tried to legislate his evangelical views upon the nation. The same way many in the middle east try to inflict their islamic views upon the nation.
I find it so funny that those who call islam a religion of hate try to say that anyone who critiques Romney as a bigot (if they bring up he is the Christian conservative).
I edited the post to make it more clear what i was saying.
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July 16, 2007, 09:52:18 pm »
In a personal message someone brought up a good point about faith and candidates and Obama. First let me say I don't like Obama. But as to the overall tones of religion. I will almost always vote for the candidate who tries to inflict his religious views least. Sure there are certain races (Harold Ford for example) where both candidates are religious, and I vote for the one I most agree with. I should also there is a big difference about how a candidate inflicts his religious views. To curtail poverty is one thing, while curtailing pornography with a religious overtone are two different things.
That said, I don't like the going into churches.... any candidate (and that includes a lot of Democrats of past).
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July 16, 2007, 10:08:19 pm »
Well, I think that the people have right to attack Romney because of his religion. If you're crazy enough to believe something that has been proven to be a charade, what makes you think your political beliefs aren't also whacky?
Then again, I am an atheist.
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Quote from: useful idiot on July 16, 2007, 08:29:50 pm
I admit the things I said were written in a harsh way, but come on, IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO. My critique was of
a culture I found devoid of compassion, values, and seriousness
(something shocking to me because of my good experiences with Brazilian family and my girlfriend.) If you want me to apologise for it, sure whatever, but I wasn't mocking any of the races of Brazil or their devotion to Catholicism. If anything I was citicizing their(certain segments of the population, specifically the kids of executives that I met and those that moved in their circles) extreme embrace of American capitalist values, and therefore criticizing American style hedonism. I had moved to a place full of millions of Paris Hiltons
I've said all I'm going to say about that post from October of 2005. If any of you can find a hint of prejudice towards blacks in any of my posts I will adress that, as that was the original claim of Eraserhead, that I had made anti-black statements.
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Quote from: Lt. Gov. South Park Conservative on July 16, 2007, 10:08:19 pm
Well, I think that the people have right to attack Romney because of his religion. If you're crazy enough to believe something that has been proven to be a charade, what makes you think your political beliefs aren't also whacky?
Then again, I am an atheist.
I truly don't know a lot about Mormonism except for what South Park (no pun intended) said. So I cannot comment on whether its a "charade" or not. Personally, I don't care as it should have no part of the debate. If it is brought in by the candidate (religious conservative), then I believe it can be commented on. His faith, no the religion itself.
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Brazil sounds like my type of place!
Quote from: © Boss Tweed on July 16, 2007, 06:16:59 pm
Romney's very dangerous because he's a massively compelling and attractive personality.
I'd say his tendency for massive gaffes and extreme lack of political savvy far outweighs any of that. If he gets nominated a Democratic victory is basically all but assured.
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BTW, that ad could've easily been for Ralph Nader.
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does anyone here want to live in a wold that is entirely child safe? I am an adult and I enjoy adult things. I do not wanted a rated G world.
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Quote from: Boris on July 16, 2007, 06:49:44 pm
Meaningless and substanceless ad, designed to appeal to, well, idiots. I have 100% confidence that I'll still have the ability to go on the internets and download more porn than I could possibly ever watch during my lifetime if Mitt Romney is elected President.
Especially since the last serious attempt to regulate porn on the internet was overturned UNANIMOUSLY by the Supreme Court.
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Quote from: Likely Voter on July 16, 2007, 10:52:33 pm
does anyone here want to live in a wold that is entirely child safe? I am an adult and I enjoy adult things. I do not wanted a rated G world.
I don't... I like my Rescue Me. At the same time, I want my kids (when I have them) to live in a friendly environment. Its called buying a fricken box that blocks out the bad stuff (whats it called again). Its called being involved in your kids lives. Its called making sure they know the difference between fake and real violence. The consequences of unprotected sex (the consequences of protected sex). Getting south park off the air won't do anything.
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I find it ironic that conservatives say that they want to preserve american culture and yet what they really want to do is change it. I also find it hypocritical, when obviously, porn and all of these other horrible things will be wiped out by the free market. Duh.
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Quote from: poughies on July 16, 2007, 10:58:16 pm
Quote from: Likely Voter on July 16, 2007, 10:52:33 pm
does anyone here want to live in a wold that is entirely child safe? I am an adult and I enjoy adult things. I do not wanted a rated G world.
I don't... I like my Rescue Me. At the same time, I want my kids (when I have them) to live in a friendly environment. Its called buying a fricken box that blocks out the bad stuff (whats it called again). Its called being involved in your kids lives. Its called making sure they know the difference between fake and real violence. The consequences of unprotected sex (the consequences of protected sex). Getting south park off the air won't do anything.
I will not allow Romney to take South Park off the air.
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Quote from: Conan on July 16, 2007, 11:15:03 pm
I find it ironic that conservatives say that they want to preserve american culture and yet what they really want to do is change it. I also find it hypocritical, when obviously, porn and all of these other horrible things will be wiped out by the free market. Duh.
Of course they do.
I've said it a hundred times, the Republicans are becoming fascist and the Democrats are becoming socialist. Regardless of who between them wins, at the end of the day the people are f***ed.
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Quote from: Lt. Gov. South Park Conservative on July 16, 2007, 10:08:19 pm
Well, I think that the people have right to attack Romney because of his religion. If you're crazy enough to believe something that has been proven to be a charade, what makes you think your political beliefs aren't also whacky?
Then again, I am an atheist.
This is about the mentality of what I would expect from someone who calls himself "South Park Conservative," who approves of "attack Romney because of his religion."
This is low, this is disgusting, this is bigoted, to attack anyone because of their religion.
I find it incredible that such narrow minded attitudes still cast their dark and decaying shadow over 21st century society.
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Quote from: Tammany Hall Republican on July 16, 2007, 11:27:05 pm
Quote from: Lt. Gov. South Park Conservative on July 16, 2007, 10:08:19 pm
Well, I think that the people have right to attack Romney because of his religion. If you're crazy enough to believe something that has been proven to be a charade, what makes you think your political beliefs aren't also whacky?
Then again, I am an atheist.
This is about the mentality of what I would expect from someone who calls himself "South Park Conservative," who approves of "attack Romney because of his religion."
This is low, this is disgusting, this is bigoted, to attack anyone because of their religion.
I find it incredible that such narrow minded attitudes still cast their dark and decaying shadow over 21st century society.
Don't get me wrong. I would vote for Romney in a hearbeat if he agreed with me on the issues. I'm just thinking the way the average american would. I, too, would rather see ROmney lose because he is a Christian Right flip-flopper than because of the crazy stuff he believes in. In other words, to a lot of Americans, it would be like electing a Scientologist to the White House.
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