Ranking rights

[Citizen James]

Rank in order of most to least important:

Individual rights
States rights
Federal rights
Corporate rights

How do you determine which rights are more important when in conflict: Such as the second amendment (individual rights)  vs. the war on terror (federal rights); Medical Marijuana (individual and/or states rights vs federal rights); or tort reform (protection of corporations from frivolous lawsuits vs. State and Government's right to regulate safety standards vs. protection of individuals from amoral/immoral corporate interests)

[Jaggerjack]

Individual Rights
___ Rights
___ Rights
___ Rights

[opebo]

Rank in order of most to least important:

Well, in order of most important in practice:

Corporate rights
Federal rights
States rights
Individual rights

Since after all the division between Corporate, Federal, and States rights is just a fiction.

But if you're asking, 'which do you like better, which would you prioritize if you were sultan?', then I'd answer like this:

Individual Rights

[David S]

Start with the US constitution. When you read it you understand that it is all about limiting the power of the federal government and protecting the rights of the individual. The powers of the federal government are spelled out in article I section 8. The 10th amendment makes clear that any powers not specifically delegated to the feds belong to the states or the people respectively. The Bill of Rights protects certain specific individual rights but it also makes clear in the 9th amendment that the people may have other rights not spelled out in the Bill of Rights. The founders realized that they could not possibly name every conceivable right so they left the door open for other rights as well.

The US constitution is the supreme law of the land. It takes precedence over everything else. Federal laws come next, but only where the feds have jurisdiction. State constitutions and state laws come next.

The founders laid out a fairly straightforward system. But it gets muddied up because the federal government has overstepped its constitutional bounds by a mile.

BTW individuals have rights. The federal and state governments have powers, not rights.

[Southern Patriot]

Start with the US constitution. When you read it you understand that it is all about limiting the power of the federal government and protecting the rights of the individual. The powers of the federal government are spelled out in article I section 8. The 10th amendment makes clear that any powers not specifically delegated to the feds belong to the states or the people respectively. The Bill of Rights protects certain specific individual rights but it also makes clear in the 9th amendment that the people may have other rights not spelled out in the Bill of Rights. The founders realized that they could not possibly name every conceivable right so they left the door open for other rights as well.

The US constitution is the supreme law of the land. It takes precedence over everything else. Federal laws come next, but only where the feds have jurisdiction. State constitutions and state laws come next.

The founders laid out a fairly straightforward system. But it gets muddied up because the federal government has overstepped its constitutional bounds by a mile.

BTW individuals have rights. The federal and state governments have powers, not rights.

Well said!!!!!!!

[Harry]

Individual
Federal
State













Corporate

[Speed of Sound]

Ill just fix up Harry's a little bit.....

 
Individual
Federal




State
*return x10^10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000*
Corporate

[Ghyl Tarvoke]

Individual




States (as in Subterriorities of the Larger terriority - the more decentralized the terriority, the greater it's rights.)






(X50)
Federal




(X1000)
Corporate (Can you please reserve the "Santa Clara Raliway" case, please. It really would do a lot of good for the world.)

[DanielX]

Individual Rights.

They are the only one to have "rights", although the rights to form governments, sub-governments, and corporations are among them.

Governments have no rights; their sole reason for existing is to protect the individuals under their purview from threats, internal and external, to mediate their disputes, and to otherwise provide a limited set of services deemed essential for their joint welfare.

Corporations, likewise, have one reason for existing: to profit the individuals who provide the corporation capital (the shareholders).

Neither have any rights, except those deemed necessary by the individuals that they consist of.

[Ghyl Tarvoke]

Individual Rights.

They are the only one to have "rights", although the rights to form governments, sub-governments, and corporations are among them.

Governments have no rights; their sole reason for existing is to protect the individuals under their purview from threats, internal and external, to mediate their disputes, and to otherwise provide a limited set of services deemed essential for their joint welfare.

Corporations, likewise, have one reason for existing: to profit the individuals who provide the corporation capital (the shareholders).

Neither have any rights, except those deemed necessary by the individuals that they consist of.

Of course this list depends on what exactly you define as "Rights".

[CARLHAYDEN]

1. Individual

2. State



3. Federal











4. Corporate

[DanielX]

Individual Rights.

They are the only one to have "rights", although the rights to form governments, sub-governments, and corporations are among them.

Governments have no rights; their sole reason for existing is to protect the individuals under their purview from threats, internal and external, to mediate their disputes, and to otherwise provide a limited set of services deemed essential for their joint welfare.

Corporations, likewise, have one reason for existing: to profit the individuals who provide the corporation capital (the shareholders).

Neither have any rights, except those deemed necessary by the individuals that they consist of.

Of course this list depends on what exactly you define as "Rights".

My definition is fairly strict. "Life, liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" is a good start. Things like free speech, religion, the press, bear arms, etc. are too. These are things that are innate human abilities, and can only be taken away or curtailed (for reasons good or bad). Only God (or nature) can create rights, if you believe them created at all.

I do not consider healthcare, education, transportation, etc. to be rights - things that are given by, sold by, or taken from others. It may (or may not) be a good idea to provide them, but they aren't rights.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Rank in order of most to least important:

Individual rights
States rights
Federal rights
Corporate rights

I rank them in exactly the order you listed them.

Corporations have no rights. None.

[Verily]

The way it should be:

Individual
Federal
Corporate
State  (none at all)

[Redefeatbush04]

Individual rights are the only ones that matter. The job of the state and federal governments are merely to provide the order and stability necessary to ensure that these rights are maintained. Additionally, I believe that the federal government has been given too much power. Corporations, to quote DanielX, exist solely to profit the shareholders.

Individual, State + Federal, Corporations

[12th Doctor]

Well, since in America all these rights are related to one another, I find it hard to seperate them and declare one is more important than the other.

If we somehow suddenly decended into some kinda post-Apocalyptic primative society, then I woudl say individual rights woudl be the most important but... corporations are groups of individuals engaged in business to limit their personal risk... states are small divisions of governing bodies that compose individuals and federal governments are made of individual states, so I woudl assume a preservation of individual rights would simply lead back to this system in some form.

[Snowguy716]

Rank in order of most to least important:

Individual rights
States rights
Federal rights
Corporate rights

How do you determine which rights are more important when in conflict: Such as the second amendment (individual rights)  vs. the war on terror (federal rights); Medical Marijuana (individual and/or states rights vs federal rights); or tort reform (protection of corporations from frivolous lawsuits vs. State and Government's right to regulate safety standards vs. protection of individuals from amoral/immoral corporate interests)

Individual rights
States rights
Federal Rights
...
...
...
Big long, seemingly unending abyss
..

Corporate rights.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

The only right corporations have is to have a middle finger shoved in their face.

[Southern Patriot]

There are two possible definitions of "Corporate Rights"

1) The rights of a company registered as a Corporation

2) The rights of a Group of people


I would like to see corporations be eliminated in favor of every business being either a Partnership or Sole Proprietorship.


As for ranking rights,
Individual rights come first
Governments are (supposed to be) given powers by people.

Here's a quote:
"When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law." - Frederick Bastiat

[12th Doctor]

The only right corporations have is to have a middle finger shoved in their face.

BUSH STOLE KENTUCKY

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Individual Rights
Federal Powers = State Powers
Private Organization Rights

[MaC]

Governmental "rights" do not exist.  So that cuts out "federal rights" and "state rights"-however the powers they have are important.

So we have Individual, or natural rights that are protected with the upmost care at the top.  Business is the creation of individual rights used for production.  Human rights involve how a businessman deals with the workings of his company.  However, there are restrictions.  The businessman cannot call out a special police force to break up unions.  Because those kinda restrictions exist, I'll use the crummy classification "corporate rights".  Now initially, when things were better in this country, people realized that the states gave the national government it's power.  I'll term state powers next, and then federal governmental powers after that.