Roe v. Wade Hypothetical
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
March 28, 2024, 05:49:31 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  Political Debate (Moderator: Torie)
  Roe v. Wade Hypothetical
« previous next »
Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 5 6
Poll
Question: Let's suppose the Supreme Court decides to take up a case involving a state banning all abortions except to save a woman's life, thus putting into jeopardy the Roe vs. Wade decision -how would you hope the Supreme Court would rule on the case?
#1
Leave Roe vs. Wade in place, but support imposing additional restrictions on women's access to abortion
 
#2
Overturn Roe vs. Wade, and outlaw abortion on the national level
 
#3
Overturn Roe vs. Wade, and leave the issue to each individual state
 
#4
Leave Roe vs. Wade in place as is
 
#5
Other (please specify)
 
Show Pie Chart
Partisan results

Total Voters: 169

Author Topic: Roe v. Wade Hypothetical  (Read 17884 times)
Person Man
Angry_Weasel
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 36,681
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2007, 10:42:39 PM »

Let's keep this poll going.
Logged
Undisguised Sockpuppet
Straha
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,787
Uruguay


Political Matrix
E: 6.52, S: 2.00

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2007, 10:37:30 PM »

I'd be willing to accept abortion being made a capital crime in exchange for marijuana legalized fully.
Logged
Person Man
Angry_Weasel
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 36,681
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2007, 10:54:46 PM »

I'd be willing to accept abortion being made a capital crime in exchange for marijuana legalized fully.

...and maybe cloning being allowed.
Logged
Undisguised Sockpuppet
Straha
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,787
Uruguay


Political Matrix
E: 6.52, S: 2.00

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2007, 11:02:26 PM »

No. One goal at a time. but sincr abortion is THAT perhaps marijuana being legalized and an end to FCC decency censorship.
Logged
Angel of Death
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2,411
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2007, 11:55:11 PM »

There is no judicial basis to either allow or ban abortion without explicit legislation.
Logged
Undisguised Sockpuppet
Straha
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,787
Uruguay


Political Matrix
E: 6.52, S: 2.00

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2007, 07:37:24 AM »

There is no judicial basis to either allow or ban abortion without explicit legislation.
Who cares? If I can milk it to get some laws i'd like to see passed then I'd do it.
Logged
Person Man
Angry_Weasel
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 36,681
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2007, 09:57:33 PM »

No. One goal at a time. but sincr abortion is THAT perhaps marijuana being legalized and an end to FCC decency censorship.

What do you mean?
Logged
Undisguised Sockpuppet
Straha
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,787
Uruguay


Political Matrix
E: 6.52, S: 2.00

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2007, 10:03:47 PM »

I meant Abortion is THAT big of an issue so I'd force a BIG concession from the cons in return.
Logged
Person Man
Angry_Weasel
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 36,681
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2007, 06:06:36 PM »

That's what I thought. Needed to make sure.

I would have -

- repeal of the "PATRIOT" act
- repeal of the 1937 Marijuana Tax Act and other federal laws that ban pot
- Equal funding for embryonic stem sell research to funding of its "kosher" alternatives.
Logged
Undisguised Sockpuppet
Straha
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,787
Uruguay


Political Matrix
E: 6.52, S: 2.00

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2007, 06:08:03 PM »

Besides #2 on your list you're thinking too small. Also the patriot act is a good thing(compared to the pre-9/11 status quo. Yes the act needs revising but its still needed).
Logged
Person Man
Angry_Weasel
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 36,681
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2007, 06:10:34 PM »

Can you come up with a map of what the nation's abortion laws would look like if the federal government declared nuetrality on abortion and refused to take up any cases, legislation, or constitutional amendments on the issue?

Besides #2 on your list you're thinking too small. Also the patriot act is a good thing(compared to the pre-9/11 status quo. Yes the act needs revising but its still needed).

Okay, how about just an end to warrantless wiretapping, Iraq War and attempts to constitutionally recognize homophobic jurisprudence?
Logged
Undisguised Sockpuppet
Straha
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,787
Uruguay


Political Matrix
E: 6.52, S: 2.00

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2007, 06:12:53 PM »

1 No.
2 No.
3 Yes

As long as we have 1.4 billion muslims alive on earth we can't loosen up any on security.
Logged
Person Man
Angry_Weasel
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 36,681
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2007, 06:18:18 PM »
« Edited: August 12, 2007, 06:21:02 PM by Angry_Weasel »

1 No.
2 No.
3 Yes

As long as we have 1.4 billion muslims alive on earth we can't loosen up any on security.

I'm guessing that you are a lot like Joe Lieberman? Not neccesiarily a bad thing.

...and I doubt that Islam is our biggest long term concerned. We have had bigger enemies, lived for 1500 years with these people and we can't just murder 25% of the population.  Dangerous short-term solutions are not preferrable to ones that emphasize long-term assimilation based out weeding out radicals, educating moderates to be more moderate and economic growth.
...and what about the map?
Logged
Friz
thad_l
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 689
United States


Political Matrix
E: -4.77, S: -9.74

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2007, 10:46:53 AM »

Leave Roe vs. Wade in place as is.
Logged
Person Man
Angry_Weasel
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 36,681
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #39 on: January 11, 2008, 06:44:09 PM »

if Roe was overturned, what do you think the abortion policy map would look like?
Logged
Frodo
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 24,509
United States


WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #40 on: January 11, 2008, 07:30:45 PM »

if Roe was overturned, what do you think the abortion policy map would look like?

I would guess that the South as a whole (basically the former Confederacy, plus Oklahoma and Kentucky) would have some of the most restrictive abortion laws in the country, as well as Utah, Indiana, and the plains states (i.e. Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota).

The only states that would ban abortion outright (with no exceptions at all) would likely be those in the Deep South or in Utah. 
Logged
Person Man
Angry_Weasel
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 36,681
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #41 on: January 11, 2008, 09:21:18 PM »

and a life exception isn't an exception. You can kill born live people with the life exception.
Logged
bullmoose88
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 14,515


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #42 on: January 11, 2008, 09:21:48 PM »

We should really be talking about Planned Parenthood v. Casey...
Logged
Person Man
Angry_Weasel
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 36,681
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #43 on: January 11, 2008, 09:53:11 PM »

We should really be talking about Planned Parenthood v. Casey...

Of course...but you know what we mean. What do you think will happen if banning abortion becomes a legitimate state interest warranting only a rational-relationship level of review?

Map?
Logged
bullmoose88
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 14,515


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #44 on: January 11, 2008, 10:47:50 PM »

We should really be talking about Planned Parenthood v. Casey...

Of course...but you know what we mean. What do you think will happen if banning abortion becomes a legitimate state interest warranting only a rational-relationship level of review?

Map?

Well...it gets a higher standard because of the privacy rights involved...perhaps if you separate abortion from privacy, you could still tie it to some intermediate standard based on a sex classification...shrug
Logged
Person Man
Angry_Weasel
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 36,681
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #45 on: January 11, 2008, 10:50:59 PM »

or just throw out the right to privacy or say that Roe flies against tradition and should get the Bowers standard. My question was how the states would react. Can you answer that?
Logged
bullmoose88
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 14,515


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #46 on: January 11, 2008, 11:25:52 PM »

or just throw out the right to privacy or say that Roe flies against tradition and should get the Bowers standard. My question was how the states would react. Can you answer that?

I don't know why one would want the bowers standard (heightened rational basis) as opposed to intermediate scrutiny...
Logged
Person Man
Angry_Weasel
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 36,681
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #47 on: January 12, 2008, 01:56:44 AM »

Bowers only scrutinizes those that are deeply held in American tradition. They can say that abortion is not part of american tradition and therefore is a behavior that can be prosecuted.


But...what would the map look like?
Logged
J. J.
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 32,892
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #48 on: January 12, 2008, 02:35:42 AM »

"Leave Roe vs. Wade in place, but support imposing additional restrictions on women's access to abortion"

This is basically the situation today.  I doubt if it will change.
Logged
Queen Mum Inks.LWC
Inks.LWC
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 35,028
United States


Political Matrix
E: 4.65, S: -2.78

P P

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #49 on: January 12, 2008, 05:00:38 AM »

Overturn it and outlaw it.
Logged
Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 5 6  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.049 seconds with 14 queries.