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« on: February 05, 2004, 04:10:34 pm »
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This is a thread for everyone's prediction map on what would have happened if McCain was the republican nominee in 2000.  Here's mine:


McCain 456 to Gore 82
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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2004, 04:21:58 pm »
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I wouldn't go so far as to suggest a landslide, but you're right, McCain would have won easily. Here's how I think it would have played out:



McCain 347 Gore 191
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2004, 04:27:24 pm »
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Why would McCain lose NJ but win PA, WI, and MI?
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2004, 04:28:26 pm »
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Mike---you used the old EV totals.
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2004, 04:31:10 pm »
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Quote from: Miamiu1027 on February 05, 2004, 04:28:26 pm
Mike---you used the old EV totals.

You mean the NEW EV totals, right? Smiley

I agree with Mike that it wouldn't have been as bad as you make it, but I agree with you that PA, MN and WI would definitely have gone for McCain.
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2004, 04:33:21 pm »
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Quote from: Miamiu1027 on February 05, 2004, 04:28:26 pm
Mike---you used the old EV totals.

Meh. Wink
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2004, 04:34:07 pm »
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Quote from: Gustaf on February 05, 2004, 04:31:10 pm
Quote from: Miamiu1027 on February 05, 2004, 04:28:26 pm
Mike---you used the old EV totals.

You mean the NEW EV totals, right? Smiley

I agree with Mike that it wouldn't have been as bad as you make it, but I agree with you that PA, MN and WI would definitely have gone for McCain.

Yes, but my map looks nicer. So ner. Wink
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2004, 04:39:09 pm »
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Quote from: Miamiu1027 on February 05, 2004, 04:28:26 pm
Mike---you used the old EV totals.

You mean the NEW EV totals, right? Smiley

I agree with Mike that it wouldn't have been as bad as you make it, but I agree with you that PA, MN and WI would definitely have gone for McCain.

Yes, but my map looks nicer. So ner. Wink

Nicer b/c of more red states, or what? Wink
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2004, 04:40:26 pm »
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Miami, Who would you have voted for?
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2004, 04:41:35 pm »
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Quote from: YoungRepub on February 05, 2004, 04:40:26 pm
Miami, Who would you have voted for?

Have you seen his quote?
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2004, 04:51:24 pm »
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Miami, Who would you have voted for?
McCain, unless he appointed a right-wing horror to the VP slot.
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2004, 04:54:34 pm »
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Miami, Who would you have voted for?

Have you seen his quote?

Well I was asking between Gore and McCain. I wasn't sure if he was a Gore fan or not.
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2004, 04:56:12 pm »
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I am a gore fan, I guess.  But I like McCain better Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2004, 04:58:10 pm »
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Miami, Who would you have voted for?
McCain, unless he appointed a right-wing horror to the VP slot.

Who do you think would have been his VP nominee? I'd say Lamar Alexander or Elizabeth Dole.
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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2004, 05:01:19 pm »
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<<Who do you think would have been his VP nominee?>>

Orrin Hatch, I guess.
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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2004, 05:46:35 pm »
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McCain may have lost... his temper that is.  If he had flashed his temper during the election, it may have had a Dean Effect and resulted in a loss.
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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2004, 06:03:19 pm »
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About your sig...

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Dan Quayle 2008
This should raise some eyebrows

... the sheer prospect frightens and mortifies me to scales which are beyond human comprehension. Wink
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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2004, 06:57:36 pm »
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My first reaction was, "He still exists?" That alone should assuage your fears.
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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2004, 11:40:05 pm »
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Quayle is a nice guy... but John Kasich is the man!
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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2004, 08:14:34 am »
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Why do all the conservatives at the board adore Kasich so much??  I don't understand.
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« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2004, 10:07:59 am »
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A massacre. A bloodbath.  McCain-(Fred) Thompson, maybe?  I'm still pining for a Bush-McCain ticket this year.  I believe in miracles!
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« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2004, 10:13:39 am »
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Quote from: Michael Zeigermann on February 05, 2004, 04:58:10 pm
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Miami, Who would you have voted for?
McCain, unless he appointed a right-wing horror to the VP slot.

Who do you think would have been his VP nominee? I'd say Lamar Alexander or Elizabeth Dole.

Probably someone either southern or Midwest-- Alexander, Fred Thompson (not Dole, IMO).  Maybe Engler or Ridge. Even worse for Gore--> McCain-Powell!  Man, a McCain nomination would have been freakin' awesome.
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« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2004, 10:15:53 am »
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McCain may have lost... his temper that is.  If he had flashed his temper during the election, it may have had a Dean Effect and resulted in a loss.

The thing is that McCain came off as fiesty and also could get a pass for it because of his Vietnam history.  
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« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2004, 10:19:50 am »
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About your sig...

Quote from: supersoulty on February 05, 2004, 05:46:35 pm
Dan Quayle 2008
This should raise some eyebrows

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Quayle 2008... Starts with Q -- just like courage!
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« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2004, 02:33:11 pm »
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Quote from: htmldon on February 05, 2004, 11:40:05 pm
Quayle is a nice guy... but John Kasich is the man!



Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!  I like Kasich.  Smiley
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