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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« on: August 06, 2007, 08:30:46 PM »

Aren't too many who don't have boring titles like President or Prime Minister.
Gaddafi calls himself "Brotherly Leader and Guide of the Revolution".
Hu Jintao is "Paramount Leader of the People's Republic of China".
Khamenei is "Supreme Leader of Iran".
San Marino is led by a pair of "Captains Regent" elected every six months.
Plus a whole slew of Kings, Emirs, Grand Dukes and other monarchist titles.

We need Republics and pseudo-Republics to come up with some interesting names.
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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2007, 08:49:12 PM »

Alas, dictators today must at least pretend to observe the will of the people to be accepted internationally.
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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2007, 11:43:05 PM »

I guess the closest we have to a modern-day strongman abandoning the pretense of democracy is Emperor Bokassa I of the Central African Empire, although even he claimed to rule a constitutional monarchy.  The weirdest thing about his short three year reign in the late 1970's is the role that school uniforms played in his ultimate downfall.
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2007, 02:21:15 PM »

Not really. Not even the US would have done well without a presidential term limit (which, de facto, was customary pre-Roosevelt as well - thanks to Gen. Washington). In a presidential system of the American (drop the Lat) type, the incumbent's advantage is simply too strong. True, in the US incumbents, occasionally, loose - but most political scientists agree that they don't do so frequently enough. Without the de facto (originally) or a de jure (now) term limit you'd observe lengthy periods of single-person rule. Frankly, I am pretty confident that in the absence of the two-term tradition even the US would have lived through a few coup attempts in the 19th century, and, may be, a couple of extra civil wars.

Considering that between Jackson and Wilson we had exactly one President serve to the end of a second consecutive term, Grant, with one term Presidents between Jackson and Lincoln not even getting renominated by their own party, I think you're completely wrong about the prospect of a 19th century U.S. coup d'etat.  The Union dissolving as it did in Central America and Gran Colombia is a far greater possibility than any coup d'etat to take control of the then weak Federal government.  If that had happened, we'd probably have had some coups.
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